any sifu can teach, wat software similar as C & c cleaner, used to clean those registry..
using ubuntu 10.04 lts... please advise
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 Jul 13 2011, 03:55 PM
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Jul 13 2011, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(ikah @ Jul 13 2011, 03:55 PM) any sifu can teach, wat software similar as C & c cleaner, used to clean those registry.. I better stop you here before any more misconceptions are formed.using ubuntu 10.04 lts... please advise  In linux, there is no registry. There is no need for CCleaner. QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 13 2011, 01:59 PM) If you want to learn at a more leisurely pace, you could always install OpenBox and hack away at teh rc.xml trying to build pipemenus. You'll be surprised how much you can learn from it, though not exactly network specialized (which I assume is your "genre" of preference) Yeah, networks is more my thing. I can understand wireshark but I just can't seem to get bash to work. Sigh |
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Jul 13 2011, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(ikah @ Jul 13 2011, 03:55 PM) any sifu can teach, wat software similar as C & c cleaner, used to clean those registry.. Like farkinid said, there is no registry in Linux but if u want to cleanup temporary files, just download Bleachbit. You can find it in Software Centre i think.using ubuntu 10.04 lts... please advise |
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Jul 13 2011, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(ikah @ Jul 13 2011, 03:55 PM) any sifu can teach, wat software similar as C & c cleaner, used to clean those registry.. linux is not windows so no registry thingy blablabla.. no worries.. no need to defrag also.. just use and explore... using ubuntu 10.04 lts... please advise  |
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Jul 13 2011, 08:21 PM
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so i decided to change the distro from fedora to arch
i recently installed archlinux from stratch on my laptop, the things is I couldn't get the X to start. i follow the guide on arch wiki step by step, and install the intel driver as written CODE pacman -S xf86-video-intel so based on the warning in the log, it says vesa and fbdev driver not found so i issued another command CODE pacman -S xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-fbdev only then i can start my X, but I doubt it's using the Intel driver, so it makes me unsatisfied, lol so i figure i need to create xorg.conf and force my X to use intel instead, by issuing CODE Xorg -configure also output some errors saying couldn't find /dev/fb0: no such file or directory and some error saying number of created screens does not match number of detected devices bla bla i take a look at the xorg.new.conf created (even though it said configuration file is not created), edit it myself and move it to /etc/X11/ folder as expected, the X cannot be started, and only when I change the line Driver "intel" to Driver "vesa" in the device section, I could get into my X. it seems like the intel driver is not recognized/loaded/i don't know. Sorry if this is a noob question but I have spend all day looking for the solution but none of them works. and sorry, couldn't give much more info as I'm writing from my desktop now, but if you guys need more details, feel free to ask.  |
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Jul 13 2011, 10:00 PM
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Sometimes, Xorg just doesn't like your hardware. Sad but true. Tell us a few things first. Your hardware: Laptop or Desktop? If laptop, brand/make would be helpful so I can check mailing lists. Native monitor resolution as well, just in case. If it's the one listed in your sig, please confirm. LSHW output: Install lshw and run it (as root or sudo) and paste output here. Kernel: Since it's Arch, I'm assuming at least 2.6.39 like in my install. Please confirm. Other info: LSHW should be fine, but any other info, particularly on your system's graphic hardware (what model intel chipset) would be helpful. Is it the HD3000 stated in your sig? Just to confirm, is that from the Sandy Bridge line-up? Strange. I didn't realize Arch doesn't create a Xorg.conf automatically upon installation these days. Xorg -configure is usually needed for out-of-the-box distros that don't use it anymore. Yes, some people will get that error (sometimes the message is a scary "fatal error: as well) but the .new file is still created in /root most of the time. Tell me, did you kill X (and GDM/KDM if you use it) before you ran Xorg -configure? For Arch, do you have any specific video-driver overrides in your rc.conf, or any init scripts related to video running on startup? Added on July 13, 2011, 10:06 pmAh, one more thing. if your hardware is indeed the one listed in your sig, you'll need at least xf86-video-intel 2.15.xx or later for Sandy Bridge, if I'm not mistaken. Also, note the dependencies listed on the package page and make sure you satisfied them before we attempt to delve deeper into the issue. x86_64: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x8...86-video-intel/ i686: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i6...86-video-intel/ This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 13 2011, 10:17 PM |
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Jul 13 2011, 11:07 PM
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yes, it is as per listed in my sig, ok will install lshw and all the dependencies,
will feedback later tomorrow either solved or not ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: I booted my arch already, install lshw, since i only have base arch only at the moment, need to use wgetpaste here are the output lshw » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « lsmod » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « lspci » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « rc.conf » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « as my writing, the kernel is 2.6.33, it seems that pacman -Syu also returns error of some package conflicting. i need to works on that first. also, i had checked all the dependencies for xf86-video-intel, all of them are installed already Added on July 14, 2011, 9:59 amupdated my post with all the details This post has been edited by fJok3R: Jul 14 2011, 10:00 AM |
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Jul 14 2011, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(fJok3R @ Jul 13 2011, 11:07 PM) as my writing, the kernel is 2.6.33, it seems that pacman -Syu also returns error of some package conflicting. i need to works on that first. I didn't study your pasted lshw and lspci output (I'm at work right now), but I'm 99% certain its the kernel that's the issue here. You'll need at least 2.6.38 for Sandy Bridge HD3000 support. That much I'm certain cos I helped an acquaintance install Ubuntu LTS on her Sandy Bridge HD3000 system and X wouldn't even load, and then I switched to Debian and Stable/Squeeze at 2.6.32 (at the time) defaulted to vesa as well. Only when I upgraded to Unstable/Sid sources and kernel 2.6.38 was I able to start X with the Intel chipset. Arch should be no different in that regard since kernel modules are upstream and not distro specific.... so yeah, you'll need at least 2.6.38also, i had checked all the dependencies for xf86-video-intel, all of them are installed already Added on July 14, 2011, 9:59 amupdated my post with all the details Hope this helps. I'll check back later. |
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Jul 14 2011, 05:24 PM
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^ i tried to issue pacman -Syu to update my system, the thing is I got the error about cloog and cloog-ppl are in conflict thus pacman cannot continue.
something like this thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118578 since i don't really sure what cloog and cloog-ppl are doing, i'm a bit cautious to issue pacman -Syuf if you guys can assured it is safe to force update, then only I will do it, lol This post has been edited by fJok3R: Jul 15 2011, 07:08 AM |
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Jul 14 2011, 06:20 PM
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err.. u can't remove the old cloog-ppl?
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Jul 14 2011, 07:13 PM
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yeap, even though i opted for yes when it asked whether to remove cloog-ppl or not, it sill returns error of conflicting package
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Jul 14 2011, 07:16 PM
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try forcing it with -f =x
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Jul 15 2011, 02:55 AM
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@fJok3R
Arch has ditched HAL..every hardware is now depends on UDEV...your graphic driver *should* be automagically loaded and the new Xorg server are smart enough that it doesnt require xorg.conf file..if you need extra setting to Xorg like custom font dir, create that custom font dir file and place it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d QUOTE(fJok3R @ Jul 13 2011, 11:07 PM) rc.conf judging from your rc.conf file, you are using old set of rc.conf..have you run pacman -Syu with decent archlinux's mirror? eg http://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « BTW, are you using netinstall image or core image to install your arch?32bit?64bit? QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 14 2011, 07:16 PM) try forcing it with -f =x Don't.This post has been edited by mapTray: Jul 15 2011, 02:56 AM |
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Jul 15 2011, 07:10 AM
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core install of i686 version. i tried to issue pacman -Syu and it returns error of cloog and cloog-ppl are in conflict like i described a few post back then.
so i don't know how to proceed in order to update my system. a bit too afraid to force using -f btw |
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Jul 15 2011, 05:17 PM
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Outraged by this so called "review"
More like a hot bashing hatred towards Debian itself http://www.osnews.com/story/24535/Debian_6_Squeeze_Not_Good This author seriously need to be kicked out of the story board  |
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Jul 15 2011, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(fJok3R @ Jul 15 2011, 07:10 AM) core install of i686 version. i tried to issue pacman -Syu and it returns error of cloog and cloog-ppl are in conflict like i described a few post back then. Sorry for the delay, it's been a long couple of days for me.so i don't know how to proceed in order to update my system. a bit too afraid to force using -f btw Looking at your rc.conf, I'm inclined to back MapTray on this. It seems there's either some sort of sync-problem with your mirror and the required packages, causing the said conflict, or there's some bug with pacman (unlikely). I've not experienced this problem on my Arch installs before, either with Core of Netinstall images. Did you try changing mirrors? https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/ Personally, I find the quality of Arch mirror maintanence to be extremely lacking (it's gotten worse as Arch's popularity rises), which is why I always use that main mirror when I perform a fresh install,despite it being capped to only 50kb/s. Oh yeah, it's not recommended to force stuff with -f. One thing I've noticed is that the Arch installer has a bad habit of skipping stuff sometimes (especially the Core one). If you have time, try doing a fresh install again, but read the main wiki guide (the long one, not the short one). It'll give you proper advice on mirrors and rc configuration. Actually, I've never read either before (I'm used to more demanding distros) but that's the opinion I get from the general Arch community. QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 15 2011, 05:17 PM) Outraged by this so called "review" It's an old review, and I don't find much wrong with what the reviewer says. Sure, some of it is misjudgement on his part, but look at it from teh angle of a Linux newbie and you'll understand. Debian's strict adherence to it's core values is a double-edged sword. I personally think Debian's main release (the Gnome one) ain't that great for desktop users as well.More like a hot bashing hatred towards Debian itself http://www.osnews.com/story/24535/Debian_6_Squeeze_Not_Good This author seriously need to be kicked out of the story board "Real Debian" is always via a netinstall, and "Real Debian Improved" can only be gotten via GRML, imho. Then you improve em further with your own scripts, kernels and smxi. Also note that, despite what they might make you think, Debian Stable was always intended to be a server-specific distro. This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 16 2011, 03:13 AM |
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Jul 15 2011, 05:35 PM
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@G-17 well , its still the most stable distro which gets effing loads of liking from me
 And so , i'll say good bye to Ubuntu And a new peeps  Elementary really is going towards simplicity and lightweight with their elementary theme  Looks like a cool video player Added on July 15, 2011, 5:40 pm@G-17 I think i wanna try evilwm as well After i saw this :  It looks very cool  Is it as easy to use as Scrotwm ? In terms of keybinding  This post has been edited by cocooh: Jul 15 2011, 05:40 PM |
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Jul 15 2011, 05:56 PM
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@Zai
Well, it's different. It can be weird. jsut install the package first and do a "man evilwm" in terminal to read the details. The Mod key layour is a bit different, though you can change it. Unfortunately, my evilWM install is built from the dev's git sourcetree, plus some additional hacks... so my ~/.evilwmrc will likely break your install. Why not read this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=15077 It's old, but still relevant. Xbindkeys is essential if you want to launch stuff, btw. If you're comfortable with dmenu (Mod+P in Scrotwm) as a launcher, then it's highly recommended you add a binding for it in xbindkeys to launch it in EvilWM as well. This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 15 2011, 05:57 PM |
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Jul 15 2011, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 15 2011, 05:56 PM) @Zai Hmm, thats quite alot to learn Well, it's different. It can be weird. jsut install the package first and do a "man evilwm" in terminal to read the details. The Mod key layour is a bit different, though you can change it. Unfortunately, my evilWM install is built from the dev's git sourcetree, plus some additional hacks... so my ~/.evilwmrc will likely break your install. Why not read this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=15077 It's old, but still relevant. Xbindkeys is essential if you want to launch stuff, btw. If you're comfortable with dmenu (Mod+P in Scrotwm) as a launcher, then it's highly recommended you add a binding for it in xbindkeys to launch it in EvilWM as well. Thx Wish I can achieve the same result as your's , It looks so cool |
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Jul 15 2011, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 15 2011, 05:59 PM) Wish I can achieve the same result as your's , It looks so cool Well, the "result" you see is mostly down to the terminal colour-scheme (.Xdefaults/Xresources) and the custom configs for the various apps on screen. The rest is just a simple conky on top, a hint of drop-shadow compositing with xcompmgr and the Artwiz Lime font). That's all. EvilWM is a stacking/floating type window manager (like Fluxbox or Openbox) but you can manually float windows in ScrotWM (or any tiling wm) if you want. |
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