That's why I say denial lor... denying that digital is the way of the future. I can also say that they are cheating mah, if follow their logic:

1. They bring lighting equipment to enhance and add to the ambient light - cheating!! Why not just use available light as is? More natural isn't it? Why wanna change the lighting?

2. Use filter to add colour or contrast or whatever - cheating!! Why need to add anything to the original scene? Original is original - add already then become fake lor, isn't it?

3. Use reflector or diffuser - cheating!! Cannot alter the original light mah... If alter already then fake lor...


So in that logic, then the greatest photos are those snapshots taken by aunties using film PnS lor. All also never adjust just snap only and everything is like the original.

This post has been edited by shootkk: Dec 29 2010, 04:32 PM

cheating in the sense actually their got cheated to buy those fancy stuff.. lol
just admit lazy to PP or donno at all la.. haha..

[quote=zstan,Dec 29 2010, 03:50 PM]
31-2... they want to fight business with Zaloon ke?

I think it's Zaloon, uncle chin had Reno his shop.

i just realised from my trip to thailand...if polarisers used correctly...i can +100 contrast using photoshop and the sky looks sooooooooooooooooooo blueeeeee.... it didn't look fake to my eyes though.

will post the pic soon.

Hi, I'll replying to your question

1) I'm not sure about the cheapest price for the Sigma 17-70mm because I'm not from KL but you can search for the sigma official distributor (can't remember the name of the company sry)

2) It is compatible with A33. The incompatibility issues are with old lenses which does not recognize the A33. Make sure you check when you buy it. If you have no choice then just send it back to Sigma for rechipping (should be free of charge). The new lenses from Sigma should have no problems whatsoever.

3) There is an older version of the lens (Its cheaper too) which has no OS but it does not have the HSM so there is no silent focus. If no HSM then you're better off getting something else such as the Tammy 17-50mm as the sound generated during focusing will annoy the hell out of you during video taking.

Hope this helps to clarify a bit, correct me if I'm wrong =)

thx for the reply, yuhi. i see that u're also funding for the same lens in ur siggy. good luck.

i guess the newer version with OS should be better since it's with HSM. i thought i could save some money coz OS is already built-in with the A33.

deathbringer, i wonder why u want that sigma? not other brand such as tamron for example...

ar? so Zaloon now change name?

i have the canon version for sale unfortunately. anyway, if my memory serves me well, this lens is already discontinued lor....

Pic sepam again after shooting

Really really windy

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C & C pls

i'm not really brand-specific. i just feel that the 17-70mm lens suits my needs and should compliment my 18-55 kit lens. i was aiming for the SAL18250 telephoto lens instead but i foresee that i'll just under-utilize it. if tamron offers a similar 17-70mm f2.8 lens, then i do not mind.

zstan: it states that it's "new" on Sigma's website. i think it's the non-OS, non-HSM model that was discontinued.

guys...
Need recomend for beginner
A290 n a390..
Its worth to buy?

divert topic abit....

wanna ask anyone got the new octopus tripod which can become a monopod also?? just wnana test the durability....well i am not expecting manfrotto or even benro quality, but at least usable for the occasional need for tripod (i.e parties/fireworks/group photo)

@zstan
i thought Studio Zaloon aka Sony Alpha Pro Shop since late 2009 ago (not sure the exact time though)?
maybe they just expand their business to bigger lot..
because as i remember, that time got function at there..

add-on: anyone receive msg for the invitation??
got photo contest eh..

@sharksuke
it's worth IF it fit your appetite.. seriously, wher else find dslr so cheap other than sony.. wahhahaa..
but do note that, if budget allow, go straight away A550

This post has been edited by hiansitt: Dec 29 2010, 05:45 PM

a full body shot might work better IMO. and the sky is totally overblown. should stop down a bit and fire flash or do a HDR picture or with a polariser or a ND filter. my 2 cents.

how does the 17-70 replace your kit lens? the f2.8 is not constant wei.

its good enough for a beginner. though nothing fancy though. but i like the slightly bigger view finder on the a290 though. if can save some more money, might as well get a sony a33.

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Added on December 29, 2010, 5:47 pmi know too. so i was wondering if its the same shop or not? if its different, why are they opening the same type of shop in a same small building?

This post has been edited by zstan: Dec 29 2010, 05:47 PM

yup.
A33 its my 1st choice
but budget limit.
Cant wait anymore to get my 1st dlsr.
Hehe.

ahpingko: congrats yo....

zstan: i tot i saw RE-opening in their promo flyer. haha... i think still same name la...

i heard of post processing during the film days but how they do it a? chemicals? sounds interesting.

I was shooting with beercan, so it is kind of tight... XD

The overblown sky is intended, I fill in with 3 flashes with postion 4,8, 9 o'clock of model]

here's another shot

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d4rkholeang3l: wa, fin exam everyday go shooting wo. the colour of 2nd post is nice. will prefer with the model looking at the camera. my 2 cents la.

never mind i found the information from alphanatics.

http://alphanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=20562


Dear all,

Studio Zaloon is currently undergoing another relaunch to better serve you, the Alphanatics Community a whole lot more. To mark this special occasion and a tribute to the festive season, Mr. Chin is doing a super special promo which is limited ONLY to Sony users. Do note that you'll have to bring your gear or some kind of proof that you're a Sony user to be entitled to some of the promotions listed here:

zstan: very easy to go i walked myself there the first time, 2nd time is my first time driving in KL, also manage to drive there... so i guess u will not get lost gua

wingster: example of editing.

adding birds into picture IS cheating
removing birds out from picture IS NOT cheating....

in a lot regulation of photo competition.

funny.

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to me editing or not, its personal thing.
in competition, editing or not, the judge has the final say, no you.

edit or no edit, as long as its a good picture, it is a good picture.