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 Oil & Gas Career v2, Job Oppurtunities & Technical Sharing

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kucingarab
post Oct 17 2011, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Oct 17 2011, 03:34 AM)
Yes, school is one turn off point that I have right now. I know agood school the fees will be from aed40k-aed70k. Im not sure with aed35k, what is the quality of the school. Maybe will try to locate malaysian/indonesian expat there and ask their opinion.
Still thinking to take or not.
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School quality is decent. Most of them are following international standard, you just need to choose which system are you/ your kids interested in? 35K is surely not enough. Prepare to pay for more other than tuition fee, such as books, uniforms, excursions, extracuricullars and so on...

Housing 150K will get you average standard in Abu Dhabi. This is the limit number, it doesn't mean this 150K into your bank account. you can choose a lower cost apartment like AED 100K, but you wont be able to save the rest.
The money will go straight from the company to the owner of the apartment, for example you choose an apartment for 120K then the company will pay only 120k to the owner. you cannot have the 30k margin.. its not for you.. biggrin.gif

I received the same offer from them last year, but considering the whole package, this is surely not the best one available in the market right now. Some jobs in Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, and offcourse in Malaysia are actually much better. And they are closer to home.

I agree with Azraeil. Use ADCO as your stepping stone.
This company is somehow dominated by Egyptian and Indian nationals, if you are not from both then don't dream too high.

Preference will always fall to the UAE nationals, and I've never seen any Malaysian having the priority for high level management in this group. Malaysian as well as other south east Asian will always be the last choice. sad but true..

This post has been edited by kucingarab: Oct 17 2011, 10:25 PM
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post Oct 17 2011, 12:45 PM

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ADCO and their Egyptian Mafia .... I've heard about it as well. But then again, 3 years in ADCO will significantly increase your market value. You can then apply for Aramco, Maersk Oil etc and if you're successful, the hiring point will be higher as your salary in ADCO is higher and they will need to match or offer at least 30% higher than that etc.
All ME companies will give preference to their locals. Over here, maybe 5% of management (or maybe a lot less than that) is expats, ALL are locals. We know why we are here and it's not to go higher up in Management. That would be in Malaysia.

Good Luck in making your decisions.
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post Oct 17 2011, 08:45 PM

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hi guys, i'd like to ask opinion about expected salary to put in my resume..

i'm currently working as an mechanical engineer, with the usual fresh grad salary (just gradded last november). Startted working since this year's february.

now trying my luck with General Electrics, and for someone like me; what would be the realistic amount of expected salary should i put in my resume?

thanks in advance!
azraeil
post Oct 18 2011, 12:15 AM

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I don't know about anyone else but I usually never put anything regarding expected salary in my resume.
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post Oct 18 2011, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Oct 18 2011, 12:15 AM)
I don't know about anyone else but I usually never put anything regarding expected salary in my resume.
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This is true.
kucingarab
post Oct 18 2011, 08:57 AM

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unless you're being asked
azraeil
post Oct 18 2011, 01:22 PM

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Headhunters usually will ask your expected salary ranges and they will note it in their profile of you but they will not ask you to put it in your resume. Had one called me yesterday asking if I want to come back to Malaysia ...

I said, can but 45K net and 60K schooling per year per child and I'll come back home. She noted it ...
Melv
post Oct 19 2011, 09:37 AM

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Hi guys.....just want to ask....have anyone heard abt this company, "ProEight Offshore Engineering"???
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post Oct 19 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Melv @ Oct 19 2011, 10:37 AM)
Hi guys.....just want to ask....have anyone heard abt this company, "ProEight Offshore Engineering"???
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so, what you wanna know about this company..here come the info..

Proeight Offshore Engineering Sdn. Bhd.

www.pro8group.com

ProEight Offshore Engineering is an established and diversified Marine Specialist Company servicing both the private and public sector clients in Malaysia in the Oil and Gas industry.

ProEight Offshore Engineering coupled with its relevant experience and expertise in the Oil and Gas installation industry has enabled the company to provide comprehensive, professional, quality, reliable and efficient services to our clients. In particular, our specialization is in the field of Naval Architectural and Structural Engineering.

The services ProEight Offshore Engineering Sdn Bhd provides mainly under the category of Naval Architectural and Installation Engineering Consultancy:

* Transportation analysis and tiedown design for Oil and Gas structure components transported from the fabrication yard to the designated field offshore.
* The 3D launch analysis of a jacket.
* The 3D Floatation and upend analysis of a jacket.
* On-bottom stability analysis
* Conductor hang-off studies
* Pipeline Pipelay Analysis
* Start-up and abandonment pipeline analysis
* Riser Installation Engineering.
* Pipeline weld repair calculation.
* 3D mooring analysis.
* Float over analysis.

ProEight Offshore Engineering Sdn Bhd
( Company Number : 459320-P )
3-3, Jalan Jelatek Satu,
Jelatek Business Centre,
54200 Kuala Lumpur.
Tel No. +603 425 15 808
Fax. No. +603 425 15 608
E-mail : azhar@proeight.com.my

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Melv
post Oct 19 2011, 11:43 AM

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Jamal thanks abundant for your reply...really appreciate it. Would this be a good company to start off my career in the oil&gas industry. I currently trying to switch industry, being in the automotive industry for the past 3 years. So i was just wandering, is this company good? In terms of stability, working enviroment and so on....thanks again!
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post Oct 19 2011, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Melv @ Oct 19 2011, 12:43 PM)
Jamal thanks abundant for your reply...really appreciate it. Would this be a good company to start off my career in the oil&gas industry. I currently trying to switch industry, being in the automotive industry for the past 3 years. So i was just wandering, is this company good? In terms of stability, working enviroment and so on....thanks again!
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sorry Melv, i'm not familiar with this company and don't have any network there...
maybe other will answer your question..
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post Oct 19 2011, 01:04 PM

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guys, just trying my luck.. i do have a pair of safety boot to let go. red wing.. kindly check my thread.. if some one interested.. just pm me.. thanks
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post Oct 19 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Melv @ Oct 19 2011, 11:43 AM)
Jamal thanks abundant for your reply...really appreciate it. Would this be a good company to start off my career in the oil&gas industry. I currently trying to switch industry, being in the automotive industry for the past 3 years. So i was just wandering, is this company good? In terms of stability, working enviroment and so on....thanks again!
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hoo you must have a interview session with them then.they have quite a number of postion open now. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 19 2011, 08:09 PM

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thanks for the info guys, really appreciate it! notworthy.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 19 2011, 08:43 PM

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For those working as a Petroleum Geologist (basically any Geologist working in the O&G Industry lah)

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Work force continues to ‘mature’
GeoSalaries Rise Almost 8 Percent
By LARRY NATION, AAPG Communications Director
As crude prices came out of the doldrums in 2010-11, so have the pay hikes for petroleum geologists.
Over the past year, salaries for petroleum geologists for the year showed a weighted average increase of 7.9 percent, according to the annual AAPG Salary Survey.
This compares with a 5 percent overall increase in 2009-10 and a 2 percent increase the previous year.

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Mike Ayling, of MLA Resources, who has conducted the annual salary survey for AAPG since 1981, said the largest pay increases came in the “high demand” groups with 10-14 and 25-plus years experience, with increases between 10 and 12 percent.
“These demographic groups entered the work force at times when demand for geologists was not as high (mid-1980s and mid-1990s) – but now they are at the point in their careers where they can be key players,” Ayling said. “And, they are getting paid for it because the companies are wanting to keep them.”

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The industry has a two-generation history of hiring and paying a premium for new talent in the good times – and during bad times, not so much. This has given the industry curious gaps in the age and experience levels in the work force.
In fact, Ayling noted that nearly 44 percent of the respondents to the 2010-11 AAPG survey had over 25 years experience, indicating the extent of the aging of the work force.
Ayling continued there are other factors at work with the numbers, including reluctance on the part of smaller and mid-size companies to staff-up at the entry levels, “because they can’t spare the mature geologist the time to mentor the new geologist.”
Also, at the senior levels, there is not much movement from job-to-job due to “golden handcuffs” of accruing bonuses and retirement programs – as well as uncertainties in the economy causing individuals to be hesitant to make a move.

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Ayling also noted the economic insecurity has caused companies to be slow in their hiring decisions.
The survey found that the 0-2 year experience levels showed a small increase, up 6.2 percent, but recently graduated bachelor level geologists had a difficult time finding work – and the few that did worked for lower salaries, depressing the overall average.
The 3-5 year and 15-19 year geologist groups showed little change, but these groups contained few individuals, Ayling said.
The 6-9 year and 20-24 year groups had between a 5 and 6 percent increase.
Ayling also noted the number of people in the demographic age groups can have a big bearing on both the marketplace and the salaries they are paid due to the supply and demand for their level of experience and expertise.
The annual salary survey is based on employed, salaried geoscientists and is based on salaries alone. It does not include bonuses, employee benefits, autos or other perquisites.
It does not attempt to include anyone whose compensation is in the form of consulting fees, retainers or overrides.
The survey also is based on U.S. salaries only, considered the “gold standard” for the industry. The measurement for international salaries for explorationists is virtually on a country-by-country, case-by-case basis, Ayling said, which makes statistical averaging non-productive beyond the boundaries of any specific country.
Ayling added that many ex-pats are paid U.S.-based salaries, while the national oil companies opt to pay compatriots on a different, lower scale. 
I'll be in the 15 years experience group next year ..... market is hot right now.
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post Oct 19 2011, 09:19 PM

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those are net or gross?
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post Oct 19 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Oct 19 2011, 08:43 PM)
For those working as a Petroleum Geologist (basically any Geologist working in the O&G Industry lah)
I'll be in the 15 years experience group next year ..... market is hot right now.
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Regret for not choosing geology.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Oct 19 2011, 10:00 PM)
Regret for not choosing geology.. doh.gif
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haha...too late for that now. if it's the $$$ you are after, there's a lot of job better than geologist
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post Oct 19 2011, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Oct 19 2011, 04:19 PM)
those are net or gross?
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I suspect it's gross coz otherwise it will be difficult to compare from countries that have taxes and those that doesn't.
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Welders and divers? I always want to operate ROVs. But sadly, it's hard to get in.

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