In PwC, you have people like myself. Nasty, demanding and a little power crazy.
Big 4 Recruitment Drive_v2, All things Big 4 + others
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Jul 10 2011, 11:00 PM
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Join EY. People are nicer there
In PwC, you have people like myself. Nasty, demanding and a little power crazy. |
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Jul 10 2011, 11:28 PM
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lol @ thanatos.
seeya: PwC offer u to start when? |
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Jul 10 2011, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jul 10 2011, 09:24 PM) Generally, yes, but not all the time (especially during key dates). I can be very lenient initially, but I mentally keep notes of a person's progress. If that person is obviously not working as fast as he/she should, I'll make a bit of noise. And if it doesnt work, I'll jsut escalates it upward that this associate is not performing, and will be reflected accordingly. I am nice to people whom I find to be competent, but really strict to the rest. Ah well, as long as I can work from home in the comfort of my bed I don't mind working till the wee hours just to get things done, rushing for deadlines etc. Been there done that during busy uni days LOLCall me biased, but it's how I manage. If you don't deserve the free rein, you don't get it. Added on July 10, 2011, 11:47 pm QUOTE(seeya @ Jul 10 2011, 10:55 PM) I am having dilemma here.... i got offer from both EY or PwC....join in their audit department....which 1 should i choose? Congrats! Go for the one that offers the highest pay i heard that PwC have better benefits, any1 can tell me more abt it?? This post has been edited by monsta2011: Jul 10 2011, 11:47 PM |
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Jul 11 2011, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jul 5 2011, 12:03 AM) Hahaha ironically CIPS and REC are more in common than you think. In both CIPS and REC the core clients are property clients (in CIPS case it's Sime Properties) and for REC (as it's name suggest real estate and construction). SO personally, both is about the same. I was actually more interested in the retail and consumer side of CIPS but yes, I was aware that CIPS also includes clients from real estate. I wasn't aware that the core clients of CIPS are property clients though. I say given your timing of joining I think go for EY would be better. PwC always late at salary adjustments and all I have verbally accepted EY's offer last week as I was only given 2 days to decide after being told I was offered the job in EY. PwC's offer letter stated that if I do not return the signed offer letter to PwC by 14th, the offer is deemed to have lapsed. Do you think I should still call PwC to inform them that I have chose to accept a different firm? Out of courtesy that is. Oh, and thank you for your response, even if I didn't manage to read it before reaching my decision. Added on July 11, 2011, 1:56 am QUOTE(seeya @ Jul 10 2011, 10:55 PM) I am having dilemma here.... i got offer from both EY or PwC....join in their audit department....which 1 should i choose? Hi! I had the same dilemma. i heard that PwC have better benefits, any1 can tell me more abt it?? I've heard the same thing about the benefits though. Just had a conversation with a friend who is currently in EY and I was told that EY does not offer any benefits. I find that rather hard to believe actually. Considering it's such an established firm, I expected some form of benefits, such as medical benefits. Anyone able to clarify this? I'm still waiting for EY's offer letter but my friend had mentioned that the offer letter, unlike PwC's, is really short and does not contain such information. This post has been edited by MichelleXD: Jul 11 2011, 01:56 AM |
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Jul 11 2011, 02:13 AM
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DOnt worry about it
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Jul 11 2011, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(MichelleXD @ Jul 11 2011, 01:48 AM) I was actually more interested in the retail and consumer side of CIPS but yes, I was aware that CIPS also includes clients from real estate. I wasn't aware that the core clients of CIPS are property clients though. Which department ? GFS TCE REC or SVS?I have verbally accepted EY's offer last week as I was only given 2 days to decide after being told I was offered the job in EY. PwC's offer letter stated that if I do not return the signed offer letter to PwC by 14th, the offer is deemed to have lapsed. Do you think I should still call PwC to inform them that I have chose to accept a different firm? Out of courtesy that is. Oh, and thank you for your response, even if I didn't manage to read it before reaching my decision. Added on July 11, 2011, 1:56 am Hi! I had the same dilemma. I've heard the same thing about the benefits though. Just had a conversation with a friend who is currently in EY and I was told that EY does not offer any benefits. I find that rather hard to believe actually. Considering it's such an established firm, I expected some form of benefits, such as medical benefits. Anyone able to clarify this? I'm still waiting for EY's offer letter but my friend had mentioned that the offer letter, unlike PwC's, is really short and does not contain such information. |
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Jul 11 2011, 02:42 AM
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Jul 11 2011, 02:46 AM
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2.7 basic, parking mileage and RM50 for medical reimbursement. thats all i could think of.
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Jul 11 2011, 08:07 PM
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i get GFS from EY..while for PwC, i can only know which department i m in after i go in...both give same basic salary which is 2700...
i heard tat PwC can claim a lot things like broadband, telephone etc. erm, correct me if what i heard is wrong.... |
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Jul 11 2011, 08:13 PM
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Any idea on benefits in KPMG?
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Jul 12 2011, 12:53 AM
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Hi all,
Just wanted to ask about this Group assessment done by Deloitte for their interview process, what do they assess and how do they do it? Is it like a group presentation or brainstorming session etc??? |
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Jul 12 2011, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(seeya @ Jul 11 2011, 08:07 PM) i get GFS from EY..while for PwC, i can only know which department i m in after i go in...both give same basic salary which is 2700... Correction. We get an 'allowance' for telephone, nto claim. We get an RM40/mth limit on bband too.i heard tat PwC can claim a lot things like broadband, telephone etc. erm, correct me if what i heard is wrong.... Inversely, at 1st year and 2nd year senior levels, the salaries of EY (from what I heard) is higher than PwC. Its a tradeoff. Tit for tat. |
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Jul 12 2011, 06:03 PM
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ThanatosSwiftfire, now I am doing internship at another big 4. I would like to ask what is your expectation for VTs and fresh AAs?
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Jul 12 2011, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(besaid @ Jul 12 2011, 06:03 PM) ThanatosSwiftfire, now I am doing internship at another big 4. I would like to ask what is your expectation for VTs and fresh AAs? Can't answer you, because it depends on how is the workload on the assignment. If we have sufficient staff, expectations on the VTs might not be so high. If we dont, everyone will have to pick up the shortfall, and that includes the VTs.Generally, I expect being able to write a sentence, not timid and willing to ask questions, knows how to be tactful with the client (i'm personally still working on this, but it's great when some VTs just have the natural charm with the clients), knows how to use excel decently well (basic formulaas), and then of course, of strong accounting knowledge (up to a point la. I'm expecting if like.. if a sales happens, u know what the debit and credits shud be.. kind of thing). Everything else, just pick up quickly as you go. =) |
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Jul 13 2011, 03:59 PM
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Hi There,
Just done with medical checkup for KPMG today. But havent receive any physical employment letter. Is it meaning that I really, really, really have secured the job? Asking this because I havent tender my resignation yet at my current employer. Thinking about tendering my resignation once I receive the offer letter. What do you guys/girls think? Thanks, Regards. |
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Jul 13 2011, 05:51 PM
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Hi there,
I am offered internship at the Systems & process assurance (SPA) department of PwC and only finished half way of my 4 year accounting degree. So the question is whether my knowledge in accounting subjects would be utilized here or I would be doing more stuff which is IT related? I've read their website about SPA and I think that it would be like an auditor evaluating internal controls and IT system of companies. Any input from you guys regarding this department would be of great help. Thanks. |
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Jul 15 2011, 12:29 AM
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Jul 15 2011, 04:19 PM
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Jul 17 2011, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jul 10 2011, 09:24 PM) Hahaha, yeah. Just take the relevant safety precautions and you'll be fine. Repark your car, don't work alone (besides if you wanna work alone you might as well go home, or go find starbucks or some nice chillaxed cafe somewhere) yea, i agreed with u, i prefer my junior associates to work fast as well, i guess all higher or senior associates will feel the same though junior will have complaints with our "mentality"Generally, yes, but not all the time (especially during key dates). I can be very lenient initially, but I mentally keep notes of a person's progress. If that person is obviously not working as fast as he/she should, I'll make a bit of noise. And if it doesnt work, I'll jsut escalates it upward that this associate is not performing, and will be reflected accordingly. I am nice to people whom I find to be competent, but really strict to the rest. Call me biased, but it's how I manage. If you don't deserve the free rein, you don't get it. |
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Jul 18 2011, 10:12 PM
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hi all,
may i know with 1+ year experience, if i apply for job in Big 4, do I still need to go through all the test/assessments? |
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