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wiraone
post Oct 3 2014, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(apihblind @ Oct 3 2014, 05:55 PM)
owh...need to invest in antenna then.baru nak setup Rx igate sdr+raspi but when i research yg cheap one got thermal-drift hok aloh xjadi ler.thx 4 info wiraone  thumbup.gif
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No need to invest, just make you own discone, all the instructions are available on the net smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2014, 10:36 AM

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Amateur Radio during disaster.

Majalah 3, 6 October 2014



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I took a day off today and went to Jalan Pasar looking for the connector. Unfortunately none of the shops there carried what I was looking for sad.gif

There was one shop that carried MCX but female connector rather than male. At the end I just bought SMA to BNC connector for one of my rig.



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post Oct 9 2014, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Sep 25 2014, 03:25 PM)
I've been in your situation before .. met this one 9M2 guy who always talk about the golden days, how he run/setup the station for field days during his SWL time and the 9M2 just watching them etc. Nice to hear the oldies for sure but we're in the modern age now. Do mix with the younger ones too and enjoy the hobby. Enough with the dulu-dulu cerita, if you've time, follow any field days, DX, programmes that are related to amateur radio. Most of the otais now are very selective in what they want to involve at. Piju should know who I was talking about. Hehe.

I believe in 20 years time, I'll be in the same shoes as the 9M otai tu .. cerita my 21 centry golden era smile.gif
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oo dulu-dulu punya cerita ni ruth la banyak tau. hehe

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QUOTE(piju @ Oct 9 2014, 02:12 AM)
oo dulu-dulu punya cerita ni ruth la banyak tau. hehe
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Everyone is capable to be the 'legend'. Improve our knowledge and share it to others.

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post Oct 9 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Oct 9 2014, 10:55 AM)
Everyone is capable to be the 'legend'. Improve our knowledge and share it to others.
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But becomes a legend for the wrong reason, surely nobody wants it. As said, join activities conducted by others and stop being assobiyah to a single group smile.gif You'll learn a lot more for sure. Been in your shoes before when I started this hobby 7 years ago.
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post Oct 9 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Sep 26 2014, 10:28 AM)
@wiraone
Yes, you are right. The TIMING. Yes, when we are around with family, the family is more important than our hobby. smile.gif Yeah, the TIMING, Since th 2m band is 'alive' during rush hour, so lets start the conversation with the more beneficial topics. Yes, we cannot assume everybody  able to talk about technical, but, still efforts are needed to 'enhanced' and share  our knowledge. Yes, 9M2AU told me, that during the golden era, he always QSOs with 9M2GL for years,  on 9M2RUK repater, while commuting in his jalopy/car.

Nowdays, I frequently hears some good QSOs on 9M4RBC and 9M4RZS, especially durng late night. But, how many people are monitoring that time? smile.gif
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Most of us have changed the way we discuss and share our knowledge. It is not convenient for most of us to sit beside our radio, listening to some people talking about something that we might not understand/technically challenged. Most of us are now on facebook and whatsapp, both applications are available across platforms and this is where we share/discuss our finding, experiments etc. It is much easier for everyone no matter where you are and see what someone has done when the photos, instructions being shared. No more, if you want to know, come eyeball or come to the air thingy .. This is thing in the past.

Oh btw, do join us here in the following FB groups/SIGs:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/My10mg/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/myaprs/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/205577956166963/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/224139084455762/



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QUOTE(wiraone @ Oct 9 2014, 11:01 AM)
But becomes a legend for the wrong reason, surely nobody wants it. As said, join activities conducted by others and stop being assobiyah to a single group smile.gif You'll learn a lot more for sure. Been in your shoes before when I started this hobby 7 years ago.
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Yes we only have 2 choices, to be a GOOD or BAD 'legemd'. Obviously, the the GOOD one la. smile.gif. Yes, 'assobiyah'/clan/team A-team B, ... is BAD, becaue the benefit of the knowledge is only for certain group only. Amateur Radio is a hobby. The hobby which may improbe ourselves and others too. We like share knowldege among us, whithout any strings/group/team attached.

Let's unite, and not restricted to/by any groups/team/assobiyah.

I heard 'bad' stories among Amateur Radio clubs. Most of the problem are because of 'MISUNDERSTANDING' and EGO. Remember, Amateur Radio hooby is about sharing and co-operation. So, put our EGO and TRY to understand the situation. Let's come together and starts new era. The golden era is in our hands.

Thank you. smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Oct 9 2014, 11:19 AM)
Yes we only have 2 choices, to be a GOOD or BAD 'legemd'. Obviously, the the GOOD one la. smile.gif.  Yes, 'assobiyah'/clan/team A-team B, ... is BAD, becaue the benefit of the knowledge is only for certain group only. Amateur Radio is a hobby. The hobby which may improbe ourselves and others too. We like share knowldege among us, whithout any strings/group/team attached.

Let's unite, and not restricted to/by any groups/team/assobiyah.

I heard 'bad' stories among  Amateur Radio  clubs. Most of the problem are because of 'MISUNDERSTANDING'  and EGO. Remember, Amateur Radio hooby is about sharing and co-operation. So, put our EGO and TRY  to understand the situation. Let's come together and starts new era. The golden era is in our hands.

Thank you. smile.gif
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Exactly smile.gif I couldn't agree more on that! The usual word to new comers when they asked me to sign their AA application is, take your time, do not rush in joining any club. Follow the activities conducted by the club and only join if you think you can contribute more to the club and to the hobby.
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post Oct 9 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Oct 9 2014, 11:11 AM)
Most of us have changed the way we discuss and share our knowledge. It is not convenient for most of us to sit beside our radio, listening to some people talking about something that we might not understand/technically challenged. Most of us are now on facebook and whatsapp, both applications are available across platforms and this is where we share/discuss our finding, experiments etc. It is much easier for everyone no matter where you are and see what someone has done when the photos, instructions being shared. No more, if you want to know, come eyeball or come to the air thingy .. This is thing in the past.

Oh btw, do join us here in the following FB groups/SIGs:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/My10mg/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/myaprs/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/205577956166963/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/224139084455762/
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Yes, we have lots of alternative ways to share our knowledge. Why not using Amatuer Radio as one of the PLATFORM? This era may be over, but, why not making it come back? Yeah, FB, whatsaap. twitter are our main communication method nowdays. No doubt is it more precisely to targeted users, but isn't it nice if we can BROADCAST it to ohters. There are still people who wnat to know out there.

In Malaysia there are LESS than 11k licensed operator, and how many of them are active? How many of them want to learn more about technical? How many of them able to share the knowledge? Yeah, some of the knowledgeable operators are goind HF. No doubt Amateur Radio is close related to HF. But, VHF, UHF also Amatuer Radio bands, and no need to be discriminated. There still may ham operator like me who are only have VHF/UHF tranceiver. Yeah, it just a hobby and eveyone has the choices. smile.gif


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post Oct 9 2014, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Oct 9 2014, 11:51 AM)
Yes, we have lots of alternative ways to share our knowledge. Why not using Amatuer Radio as one of the PLATFORM? This era may be over, but, why not making it come back? Yeah, FB, whatsaap. twitter are our main communication method nowdays. No doubt is it more precisely to targeted users, but isn't it nice if we can BROADCAST it to ohters. There are still people who wnat to know out there.

In Malaysia there are LESS than 11k licensed operator, and how many of them are active? How many of them want to learn more about technical? How many of them able to share the knowledge? Yeah, some of the knowledgeable operators are goind HF. No doubt Amateur Radio is close related to HF.  But, VHF, UHF also Amatuer Radio bands, and no need to be  discriminated. There still may ham operator like me who are only have  VHF/UHF tranceiver. Yeah, it just a hobby and eveyone has the choices. smile.gif
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Hehe, nobody abandoning the radio to share their knowledge. You can still hear them, the hams, talking, about their home brew antennas to some new satellites operation sometime on the local repeaters. On 40m, you can hear 9Ms on the air regularly in the evening talking, from just rag chewing to some technical stuff. But for 9Ws? You'll be restricted to local repeaters. The 10m is not usually open for local propagation. Why can't we go for the peninsular wide linked repeaters you may asked? None are operating fully right now. So, the best platform for some of us is still FB where someone from Sabah & Sarawak could join in the discussion too.

BTW, some of us misunderstood, amateur radio means talking on the radio. This is wrong.. there are more than that, experimenting is one of them. Okay, some will say, we brew our own antenna but that is not all, there are more that can be learned. There are different modes available for us. Depending on the conditions, those who've VHF only transceiver could do DX across countries using satellites on whatever modes available. Starting I believe mid of this year, SKMM has allowed 9Ws to use digital modes, explore on them. If you joined the correct SIGs, you can be sure to learn more things about ham radio.

Here is my story, the first few years when I was in the hobby, I sat beside my radio all night, my wife wasn't happy with it for sure. I had my HT on my belt whenever I go, and monitor all the repeaters around KL. Met many ham friends, mingled around, joined club, got involved with their activities, was in the clubhouse almost every weekends and then I got bored. Why? After a while, talking on the radio is not fun anymore, people started fighting on the air, repeaters regularly went down. Then I met a group of hams who were interested in going more than talking on the repeaters. Two groups actually, APRS and 10m DX. One that teach me that you can do more on VHF/UHF by using different mode, one that teach me that you can get contact with others from different countries by using satellite. Experimenting with PIC, GPS, routers and stuff to get an operational APRS network in Malaysia. The other one teach me that I could do more with my 9W license than talking nonsense on the repeaters, joining the DX activities, either alone from my shack or in a group expedition.

The only thing that deter new comers to the hobby I believe their resistance to upgrade/move up and believe talking on the repeaters will be the only thing that they wanted. And being in this century, I believe we can gain more knowledge by not restricting ourself, embrace the technologies and be more open. Oh, I know some 9M2 otais do belittle us new breeds that embraced new technologies as just a 'Google experts'.. but heck, we've shown what we're capable of by being expert in google smile.gif

Psst, some of the discussion found in some of the FB group.
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post Oct 9 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Oct 9 2014, 12:36 PM)
Hehe, nobody abandoning the radio to share their knowledge. You can still hear them, the hams, talking, about their home brew antennas to some new satellites operation sometime on the local repeaters. On 40m, you can hear 9Ms on the air regularly in the evening talking, from just rag chewing to some technical stuff. But for 9Ws? You'll be restricted to local repeaters. The 10m is not usually open for local propagation. Why can't we go for the peninsular wide linked repeaters you may asked? None are operating fully right now. So, the best platform for some of us is still FB where someone from Sabah & Sarawak could join in the discussion too.

BTW, some of us misunderstood, amateur radio means talking on the radio. This is wrong.. there are more than that, experimenting is one of them. Okay, some will say, we brew our own antenna but that is not all, there are more that can be learned. There are different modes available for us. Depending on the conditions, those who've VHF only transceiver could do DX across countries using satellites on whatever modes available. Starting I believe mid of this year, SKMM has allowed 9Ws to use digital modes, explore on them. If you joined the correct SIGs, you can be sure to learn more things about ham radio.

Here is my story, the first few years when I was in the hobby, I sat beside my radio all night, my wife wasn't happy with it for sure. I had my HT on my belt whenever I go, and monitor all the repeaters around KL. Met many ham friends, mingled around, joined club, got involved with their activities, was in the clubhouse almost every weekends and then I got bored. Why? After a while, talking on the radio is not fun anymore, people started fighting on the air, repeaters regularly went down. Then I met a group of hams who were interested in going more than talking on the repeaters. Two groups actually, APRS and 10m DX. One that teach me that you can do more on VHF/UHF by using different mode, one that teach me that you can get contact with others from different countries by using satellite. Experimenting with PIC, GPS, routers and stuff to get an operational APRS network in Malaysia. The other one teach me that I could do more with my 9W license than talking nonsense on the repeaters, joining the DX activities, either alone from my shack or in a group expedition.

The only thing that deter new comers to the hobby I believe their resistance to upgrade/move up and believe talking on the repeaters will be the only thing that they wanted. And being in this century, I believe we can gain more knowledge by not restricting ourself, embrace the technologies and be more open. Oh, I know some 9M2 otais do belittle us new breeds that embraced new technologies as just a 'Google experts'.. but heck, we've shown what we're capable of by being expert in google smile.gif

Psst, some of the discussion found in some of the FB group.
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Yes, Amateur Radio is not just about talking. It has many other things that can be done. Before I got my AA, seeral month ago, I already have SDR and, 'listened' to many things, from chit-chating on commercial trunked radios, crane operators at construction sites, aircraft landing/takeoff (airband), ... and also digital mode, such as DSD/C4FM, POCSAG (pager), ACARS, ADSB, ... Yes, there are MANY things that you can do and hear using radio. Some f us, just like to monitor/listen. I am curious, some if not most of the 9Ms I have met are monitoring Airband. smile.gif They noticed the "Perdana One" is frequently come and go from airport . smile.gif Seem that our PM is a very busy man. smile.gif


Yes, it is great to have SIGs, to improve knowledge. How about share that knowledge, basic knowledge is enough to others. Who konws, one of the monitors are interested. That is what I meant about the knowledge sharing. I like to see the technical and knowledge (chit-chat:technical) ratio in 2m/70cm band getting higher/better. Currently from 90:10 to 50:50. And yes, the choices is still in our hands. smile.gif


Yes, not need for me to monitor the repeaters to get knowledge. the knowledge is out there in Internet. I can read ARRL books/magazine from anywhere, (if have Internet access smile.gif) . I just like to hear some technical discussions in that bands. Yeah, it is just my feeling, nothing to be bothered. smile.gif

Thank you...
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post Oct 9 2014, 01:24 PM

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kalau nak diceritakan ni banyak benda la. hamid pun orang kuat suatu masa dulu. aktiviti apa tak ikut, semua ikut.

ada orang lama 9M2XX yang rasa dia tu sebagai intelektual, sedangkan duduk kutuk sama sendiri jugak. depan orang baru itu bagus ini bagus, semua supportive la. bila belakang 9W, gi buat cerita kat 9M2xx lain pulak. lepas tu macam hamid cakap la, kutuk generasi baru konon sekarang ni generasi GOOGLE sahaja. sebab apa ? sebab ramai orang baru taknak sembah dia. orang tak kenal boleh la sembah, orang yang dah kenal pakat lari.

kalau tak caya, cuba pegi CW test kat SKMM, ramai 9M2XX yang datang, tapi beberapa orang je sebenarnya supportive bab CW ni. yang selalu on air CW boleh kira dengan jari la.

hamid dah lama dalam kumpulan itu. aku pun kenal sapa dalam tu. apa yang berlaku, krisis apa terjadi.
cuba fikir, kenapa dulu hanya ada marts tapi skrg macam2 ada ?

hamid, ada orang tulis post blog pasal kelab dan individu dan dia cerita kelab skrg tumbuh macam cendawan dan dia kata individu dalam kelab kurang matang. lebih kurang macam diri dia sendiri je. tak puas hati dengan kelab tu, bukak kelab baru. tatkala marts kelab tertua malaysia ada sedikit masalah, dipijaknya pula atas kepala. tatkala orang tengah buat program tahunan seperti tahun-tahun yang lepas, dihijacknya pula. haha.

cerita sana sini, orang tak kenal mesti rasa dia tu bagus la. hamid lagi lama kenal dia dari aku. ayat dia paling best yang aku hafal adalah, "my cw is rotten"
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Oct 9 2014, 01:15 PM)
Yes, Amateur Radio is not just about talking. It has many other things that can be done. Before I got my AA, seeral month ago, I already have SDR and, 'listened' to many things, from chit-chating on commercial trunked radios, crane operators at construction sites, aircraft landing/takeoff (airband), ... and also digital mode, such as DSD/C4FM, POCSAG (pager), ACARS, ADSB, ... Yes, there are MANY things that you can do and hear using radio. Some f us, just like to monitor/listen. I am curious, some if not most of the 9Ms I have met are monitoring Airband. smile.gif They noticed the "Perdana One" is frequently come and go from airport . smile.gif Seem that our PM is a very busy man. smile.gif
Yes, it is great to have SIGs, to improve knowledge. How about share that knowledge, basic knowledge is enough to others. Who konws, one of the monitors are interested. That is what I meant about the knowledge sharing. I like to see the technical and knowledge (chit-chat:technical) ratio in 2m/70cm band getting higher/better. Currently from 90:10 to 50:50. And yes, the choices is still in our hands. smile.gif
Yes, not need for me to monitor the repeaters to get knowledge. the knowledge is out there in Internet. I can read ARRL books/magazine from anywhere, (if have Internet access smile.gif) . I just like to hear  some technical discussions in that bands.  Yeah, it is just my feeling, nothing to be bothered. smile.gif

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sama la bagi semua orang yang berlatarbelakangkan teknikal mesti fikir macam tu. semua orang bayangkan perkara sebegini berlaku kat 2 meters Malaysia. tapi sebenarnya itu semua khayalan. susah nak jumpa. realiti kat Malaysia ni, kalau sapa sembang pasal teknikal kat repeater, paling lama pun 5 minit je, lepas tu ada la kaki kacip mengacip. majoriti tak nak dengar semua tu. jadi mereka rimas kalau ada sapa sembang perkara tersebut kat repeater. sebab tu majoriti orang yang minat benda teknikal ni beralih kat medium lain selain dari HF. kat 40 meters HF pun tak ramai yang nak cerita pasal teknikal ni. kalau monitor stesen Indonesia pun berapa kerat je sembang pasal teknikal.
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Hehe, piju kena dok dibumi nyata ka? Why I think all the words written macam echoing the same thing yg aku pernah dengar sebelum ni?
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Hehe, piju kena dok dibumi nyata ka? Why I think all the words written macam echoing the same thing yg aku pernah dengar sebelum ni?
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takpa. time will tell. hehe. hamid pun macam tu jugak dulu. nasib baik aku sempat tarik ke sri gombak. haha. skrg ni tengah memukat ruth supaya jangan terlepas.
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been there, done that, lucky enough for me. Kalau pandai bawa diri, pasti tidak menyesal. Jangan bercampur satu kelompok sahaja, kenalilah seberapa ramai yang mungkin, dari situ boleh buat judgement. Kalau 50 orang cuba lari dari 1 orang, tak mungkin 50 orang tu semuanya betul. Heheh rclxm9.gif
I love the passion, dari situ macam-macam minat timbul.

Just be yourself, and surely you will survive. Jangan kena pangaruh..heheh drool.gif
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QUOTE(ruth @ Oct 9 2014, 02:09 PM)
been there, done that, lucky enough for me. Kalau pandai bawa diri, pasti tidak menyesal. Jangan bercampur satu kelompok sahaja, kenalilah seberapa ramai yang mungkin, dari situ boleh buat judgement. Kalau 50 orang cuba lari dari 1 orang, tak mungkin 50 orang tu semuanya betul. Heheh rclxm9.gif
I love the passion, dari situ macam-macam minat timbul.

Just be yourself, and surely you will survive. Jangan kena pangaruh..heheh drool.gif
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Menarik cerite tu Saudaraku piju. Ya, itulah yang saya dengar. Inilah adat manunisa. Masing-masing ada pemikiranya tersendiri. Yang bersikap 'ego' tu, apa boleh buat. Sabar dan tergurlah dengan kebaikan. Ya, masa akan berlalu, yang hidup pasti mati. Yang muda akan jadi tua. Yang junior akan jadi senior. Yang 9W pula,...tak semestinya boleh jadi 9M smile.gif. Masing-masing silih berganti.

Mungkin saya baru sangat dalam dunia Radio Amatur di Malaysia, dan tidak banyak benda yang saya lihat/dengar/jumpa. Sedih juga lah, ada perkara sebegini. Lihat cerita pasal Radio Amatur, timbul masalah perselisihan antara rakan-rakan. Saya ingin berkawan dengan SEMUA orang. Tetapi, tak semua orang nak jadi rakan saya. Ini saya tak boleh berbuat apa-apa, sebab itu PILIHAN dia.

I like to hear more about the 'problem/clash', but, if I knew it, it still doesn't improve/solve the situation/problem. What choices we have? Proceed what we like to do. The knowledgeable 9M/9W can still share their knowledge to others. I don;t the the 'clash/problem' is the obstacle/wall to make other people more knowledgeable.


3 weeks ago, I had QSO with 9W2EDK and the gangs on 9M4RBC. Mereka sangat inginkan zaman kegemilangan kembali semula. Sekarang sudah berkurangan aktivi berkaitan radio amatur. Yelah, ramai sudah berkeluarga dan komitmen sudah berbeza. Pembahagian masa antara keluarga dan hobi juga bertukar sama sekali. Persoalannya, kenapa era keemasan boleh wujud ketika itu, tapi tidak dimasa kini?
Ramai juga yang rakanrakan HAM baru. Sekrang ada banyak kelab-kelab, tapi, kenapa tidak seperti dahulu? Nak berpecah menajdi kelab-kelab, bukannya masalah besar, tetapi PENGISIANnya. Sebab itulah ada MARL, gabungan kelab-kelab. Setiap kelab boleh berkongsi-kongsi atau memnita bantuan antara-antara kelab melalui MARL.

Ya, untuk mengendalikan kelab memang sukar dan banyak cabaran. Sepatutnya kita besatu untuk menyelesaikan masalah, bukannya menimbulkan atau membesarkan masalah. Maaf, saya tidak tahu permasalahan yang sebenar dan bagaimana nak menyelesaikannya. Ianya akan berbalik kepada PILIHAN kita. Kemana kita nak pergi... Kemana arah tuju kita... Bagi saya radio amatur dalah hobi teknikal, maka sama-samalah berkongsi ilmu teknikal tanpa mengira perasaan, kelab, perselisihan, pergolakkanm .... smile.gif





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QUOTE(bahathir @ Oct 9 2014, 02:38 PM)
... Sekarang sudah berkurangan aktivi berkaitan radio amatur.
Bang, let me tell you something. We've list of activities in line, full till the end of the year. No such thing as berkurangan. I believe you've been brainwashed.

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