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post Dec 19 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 19 2010, 01:56 PM)
Can mini TT tmr if u all want.  biggrin.gif
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USJ 19 near to me also. I stay at Putra Heights.
Hope to meet but too late to get inform as need to go back MIL house to have dinner.
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 19 2010, 01:54 PM)
Yeah.. Just read those BMW how they R&D for their turbocharged engine.. Even the aftermarket manufacturers like Garrett were impress with the advancement of technology. 
Can can.. Tmr im going to USJ19 Digital Mall at 6.30pm to install my VS+GC from erictioh.. Wanna join?? U can interrogate him there.. haha..
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alamak... tmr work in time square. cannot join lor...
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(jhbey @ Dec 19 2010, 04:23 PM)
USJ 19 near to me also. I stay at Putra Heights.
Hope to meet but too late to get inform as need to go back MIL house to have dinner.
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 19 2010, 04:44 PM)
alamak... tmr work in time square. cannot join lor...
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tks068
post Dec 19 2010, 05:22 PM

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hi all personarians,

i have recently getting attention on this car and i have went for a test drive, after some discussion with the SA, he offer me 2k rebate with 200 tint voucher (not sure about the 200 voucher cos was abit of hurry XD). however the condition is that i have to book and get a number plate before 25th on December 2010 lol.

So my question is, is 2k rebate worth it ?
i am actually still deciding as i havnt test out inspira, and i personally abit annoyed by the the sudden high rpm when switching gear (due to campro and ecu ??), the response seems abit slower/slugish on the pedal

BTW i am opting for M-Line Manual Transmission.
Please help,

thanks all in advance.
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(tks068 @ Dec 19 2010, 05:22 PM)
hi all personarians,

i have recently getting attention on this car and  i have went for a test drive, after some discussion with the SA, he offer me 2k rebate with 200 tint voucher (not sure about the 200 voucher cos was abit of hurry XD). however the condition is that i have to book and get a number plate before 25th on December 2010 lol.

So my question is, is 2k rebate worth it ?
i am actually still deciding as i havnt test out inspira, and i personally abit annoyed by the the sudden high rpm when switching gear (due to campro and ecu ??), the response seems abit slower/slugish on the pedal
 
BTW i am opting for M-Line Manual Transmission.
Please help,

thanks all in advance.
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High RPM due to downshift... ? not too sure about manual.. i m driving AT .....
btw.. i dont think inspira should be compared to the same category as persona..... is about 20k extra??? right?
anyway 2k rebate is good.. but if it is due to year end stock clearing.. is normal.. go to any show room.. any car brand.. u will notice there is lots of rebate now...
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(tks068 @ Dec 19 2010, 05:22 PM)
hi all personarians,

i have recently getting attention on this car and  i have went for a test drive, after some discussion with the SA, he offer me 2k rebate with 200 tint voucher (not sure about the 200 voucher cos was abit of hurry XD). however the condition is that i have to book and get a number plate before 25th on December 2010 lol.

So my question is, is 2k rebate worth it ?
i am actually still deciding as i havnt test out inspira, and i personally abit annoyed by the the sudden high rpm when switching gear (due to campro and ecu ??), the response seems abit slower/slugish on the pedal
 
BTW i am opting for M-Line Manual Transmission.
Please help,

thanks all in advance.
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2k can save a lot of money d, i also apply for persona b line. still waiting for the bank loan approval. well it really depends on when the promo ends, mine is end of this month. but make no mistake, the car price rebate is given by proton itself, not showroom co. persona, savvy and exora gives a huge rebate. i've seen somewhere else savvy even got rm4444k rebate.
well personally i'd test drive inspira and also tried lancer before, as i'm not racer, just a normal everyday car user, i'd say inspira and lancer are pretty much the same. well if you have no bias against proton, go for inspira, plus it gives you 2 years free services.
i still stick to PE base line cos that is a car that i need,and i can afford, not i desire.
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(tks068 @ Dec 19 2010, 05:22 PM)
hi all personarians,

i have recently getting attention on this car and  i have went for a test drive, after some discussion with the SA, he offer me 2k rebate with 200 tint voucher (not sure about the 200 voucher cos was abit of hurry XD). however the condition is that i have to book and get a number plate before 25th on December 2010 lol.

So my question is, is 2k rebate worth it ?
i am actually still deciding as i havnt test out inspira, and i personally abit annoyed by the the sudden high rpm when switching gear (due to campro and ecu ??), the response seems abit slower/slugish on the pedal
 
BTW i am opting for M-Line Manual Transmission.
Please help,

thanks all in advance.
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Yeah 2k rebate is worth it if u are planning to use the car for quite some time as the difference in resale value after that period is negligible.. Sudden high rpm when switching gear?? Easy, just ease ur foot off the throttle when u anticipate a gear change, normally u will know at around what RPM the gear will change.. Its u being too heavy footed.. Every car will be like that, even BMW.. Its due to the engine revving cos the gear was disengaged momentarily and u will still accelerating..


Btw the elusive power window motor klock klock sound has finally started to plague me today.. Somebody had a solution here last time.. What was it again?
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:35 PM

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u will get used to it...I drive a MT- M-Line persona.
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 19 2010, 05:32 PM)
Yeah 2k rebate is worth it if u are planning to use the car for quite some time as the difference in resale value after that period is negligible.. Sudden high rpm when switching gear?? Easy, just ease ur foot off the throttle when u anticipate a gear change, normally u will know at around what RPM the gear will change.. Its u being too heavy footed.. Every car will be like that, even BMW.. Its due to the engine revving cos the gear was disengaged momentarily and u will still accelerating..
Btw the elusive power window motor klock klock sound has finally started to plague me today.. Somebody had a solution here last time.. What was it again?
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i'm sorry if i said anything wrong, cos i'm inexperience when come to mechanics. i also came across the same issue, the solution is something to do with either the wiring problem, or you need to go SC to clear off the debris inside.
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Dec 19 2010, 05:35 PM)
i'm sorry if i said anything wrong, cos i'm inexperience when come to mechanics. i also came across the same issue, the solution is something to do with either the wiring problem, or you need to go SC to clear off the debris inside.
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Grrr damn bengang with the sound.. Only the driver side window got this problem.. The other sides all still ok.. Cose Cose.. Lu tunggu...
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:44 PM

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i am actually planning to buy a new car next year ( 1st quarter), according to the SA, i have to get a number plate for the new car before 25th ..... seems abit rush on things. ... i wonder.....

as for the high rev during gear change, i do not face any from my iswara. it just seems that the response is like 0.5 sec slower, the rev will keep on going even if i have already release the pedal . Can it be resolved?

Btw thanks for all the response. smile.gif
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post Dec 19 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(tks068 @ Dec 19 2010, 05:44 PM)
i am actually planning to buy a new car next year ( 1st quarter), according to the SA, i have to get a number plate for the new car before 25th ..... seems abit rush on things. ... i wonder.....

as for the high rev during gear change, i do not face any from my iswara. it just seems that the response is like 0.5 sec slower, the rev will keep on going even if i have already release the pedal . Can it be resolved? 

Btw thanks for all the response. smile.gif
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The SA need u to get a number plate by 25th dec is because the 2k discount only stands for cars registered before the 25th dec.. After that no more discounts ady..

Hmmm.. Not too sure about what u are saying, but probably it can be resolved with a new firmware update.. The problem u are mentioning sounds like the old problem b4 the update. Dont worry, ur new car will be coming with the new firmware.. Even my car which was manufactured in oct came with the new firmware ady.
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:00 PM

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Nvm nvm.. We still have the next Sunday inaugural Mega TT Session..  thumbup.gif
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next sunday i not in town as well. wait for 2nd TT lor...
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 19 2010, 05:49 PM)
The SA need u to get a number plate by 25th dec is because the 2k discount only stands for cars registered before the 25th dec.. After that no more discounts ady..

Hmmm.. Not too sure about what u are saying, but probably it can be resolved with a new firmware update.. The problem u are mentioning sounds like the old problem b4 the update. Dont worry, ur new car will be coming with the new firmware.. Even my car which was manufactured in oct came with the new firmware ady.
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oh... really? cos mine i notice.. always i release accelerator.. also can notice after a short.... maybe less then 1 second time.. it will only stop rev-ing... but to me is not a problem... but really it was a bug? new firmware wont have this problem?
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 19 2010, 05:49 PM)
The SA need u to get a number plate by 25th dec is because the 2k discount only stands for cars registered before the 25th dec.. After that no more discounts ady..

Hmmm.. Not too sure about what u are saying, but probably it can be resolved with a new firmware update.. The problem u are mentioning sounds like the old problem b4 the update. Dont worry, ur new car will be coming with the new firmware.. Even my car which was manufactured in oct came with the new firmware ady.
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hi there,

thanks for the reply,

i am no car experts so might explain wrongly tongue.gif tongue.gif .how should i say... i mean when i drive my old iswara, the car will not ""vrooom"" when i switch my gear. but it happens all the time when i drive either my sisters' saga BLM or when i test drive the persona. normally for old car such as iswara, when the i switch gear and loosen the pedal, the rpm will go down as no or less gas is provided into the combustion chamber. Simply put it, i stop stepping the pedal, the rpm goes down to 1k or less straight away. but for these new protons, whenever i switch gear , step in the clutch and release the gas pedal, the engine will continue to go faster and faster for like 0.5 sec before it goes back to normal, so with no gear(as still switching) the engine will go loud and rpm will shoot up to like 3k or so. it is like i cannot get immediate response from the gas pedal as i have in my old iswara.


hope i dont make you all asleep doh.gif doh.gif

thx all for the help. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(tks068 @ Dec 19 2010, 06:11 PM)
hi there,

thanks for the reply,

i am no car experts so might explain wrongly  tongue.gif  tongue.gif .how should i say... i mean when i drive my old iswara, the car will not ""vrooom"" when i switch my gear. but it happens all the time when i drive either my sisters' saga BLM  or when i test drive the  persona. normally for old car such as iswara, when the i switch gear and loosen the pedal, the rpm will go down as no or less gas is provided into the combustion chamber. Simply put it, i stop stepping the pedal, the rpm goes down to 1k or less straight away. but for these new protons, whenever i switch gear , step  in the clutch and release the gas pedal, the engine will continue to go faster and faster for like 0.5 sec before it goes back to normal, so with no gear(as still switching) the engine will go loud and rpm  will shoot up to like 3k or so.  it is like i cannot get immediate response from the gas  pedal as i have in my old iswara.
hope i dont make you all asleep doh.gif  doh.gif

thx all for the help. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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old car = drive by cable ..... no ECU.....
new cars = drive by wire ... use ECU....

so ya.... alot of things relates back to how the ECU interpret wat u r trying to do... ECU controls alot of thigns like air flow.. and fuel flow (correct me if i m wrong)
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(khtee @ Dec 19 2010, 06:11 PM)
oh... really? cos mine i notice.. always i release accelerator.. also can notice after a short.... maybe less then 1 second time.. it will only stop rev-ing... but to me is not a problem... but really it was a bug? new firmware wont have this problem?
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QUOTE(tks068 @ Dec 19 2010, 06:11 PM)
hi there,

thanks for the reply,

i am no car experts so might explain wrongly  tongue.gif  tongue.gif .how should i say... i mean when i drive my old iswara, the car will not ""vrooom"" when i switch my gear. but it happens all the time when i drive either my sisters' saga BLM  or when i test drive the  persona. normally for old car such as iswara, when the i switch gear and loosen the pedal, the rpm will go down as no or less gas is provided into the combustion chamber. Simply put it, i stop stepping the pedal, the rpm goes down to 1k or less straight away. but for these new protons, whenever i switch gear , step  in the clutch and release the gas pedal, the engine will continue to go faster and faster for like 0.5 sec before it goes back to normal, so with no gear(as still switching) the engine will go loud and rpm  will shoot up to like 3k or so.  it is like i cannot get immediate response from the gas  pedal as i have in my old iswara.
hope i dont make you all asleep doh.gif  doh.gif

thx all for the help. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(khtee @ Dec 19 2010, 06:14 PM)
old car = drive by cable ..... no ECU.....
new cars = drive by wire ... use ECU....

so ya.... alot of things relates back to how the ECU interpret wat u r trying to do... ECU controls alot of thigns like air flow.. and fuel flow (correct me if i m wrong)
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Yeah old car is drive by cable.. Its all mechanical, u release the throttle, the throttle body closes at the same rate.. But drive by wire is controlled by the ECU.. And the ECU with the old firmware is slightly retarded.. So it takes 0.5sec to think should it ease of the throttle or not.. Then only it does.. And yeah the new firmware has eliminated the throttling when changing gear..

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post Dec 19 2010, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 19 2010, 06:17 PM)
Yeah old car is drive by cable.. Its all mechanical, u release the throttle, the throttle body closes at the same rate.. But drive by wire is controlled by the ECU.. And the ECU with the old firmware is slightly retarded.. So it takes 0.5sec to think should it ease of the throttle or not.. Then only it does.. And yeah the new firmware has eliminated the throttling when changing gear..
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thanks for the clarification, however i tested the car yesterday, shouldnt they have eliminated the problem? the car i tested is old ones? i personally dont thinks so cos the SA was kind enough to let me test a car which has been book by someone(lol hope the owner dunno XD).

This post has been edited by tks068: Dec 19 2010, 06:26 PM
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 19 2010, 06:17 PM)
Yeah old car is drive by cable.. Its all mechanical, u release the throttle, the throttle body closes at the same rate.. But drive by wire is controlled by the ECU.. And the ECU with the old firmware is slightly retarded.. So it takes 0.5sec to think should it ease of the throttle or not.. Then only it does.. And yeah the new firmware has eliminated the throttling when changing gear..
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haha i cant wait to go do my 10k service.. have a long list of stuff i want them to check and "repair" for me .....
for those new in this thread.. dont be over worried when i say i have a long list.. they are just minor stuff... but wat the heck.... no harm to be abit yimchim with them right? tongue.gif
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my experience of three years with manual non iafm campro.

The rev is the characteristics of the engine & it does frustrate me a few months of ownership.
But after you get used to it, you will know when to synchronise both of your foot & i can say now my gear change is smooth.
Automatically when i anticipate gear change, i release first the gas & then press the clutch.
And that technique you can also apply to other type of cars without any problems so i dont think its anything abnormal.

And i find it can be advantage while trying to chase someone with fast gear change.. laugh.gif

and the drive by wire delay also you will need to be familiarised with it. Once in a while i do get 'caught' by the delay.

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