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post Nov 29 2010, 04:19 PM

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um, i'm new here, and i just process my loan for persona facelift yesterday. i took b line cos m line is over my budget d. what color is nicer for persona? actually i opt for brilliant red just like saga se, with black rooftop. but since now none offered that color, so i'll respray after 2yrs old. so guys can you give opinion what color i should choose? i choose genetic silver at first cos quite nice. but i think of black cos if i respray to saga se color, the rooftop no need respray cos black color too, so will it save money?or workshop calculate based on how many type of color you use? and how's fuel consumption of persona? add airbag how much? can persona b line retrofit with abs + ebd?

Thanks!

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post Nov 29 2010, 04:33 PM

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h line no budget la, just started working abt 1 year d. summore i wanna drive manual 1st. of course i just wanna know the price, see is it worth the while to upgrade. that's all. if take h line, i'd rather take inspira smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2010, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Nov 29 2010, 04:37 PM)
B-Line and M-Line different not much right ?
I also last time want to get B-Line. after looking all the spec...I took the M-Line
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different much d, my budget is saga se or facelifted 1, but after looking thru several options, i go for persona b line smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2010, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Nov 29 2010, 05:01 PM)
yeah i understand ur situation.. I also opted for H-Line in the start, but due to the bank not approving 100% loan for me, so i had to downgrade it to B Line as im still studying now and i dont have the money to pay that much of downpayment.
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high 5 to that, i'm gonna take my car abt early jan, the feeling definitely better than saga, and i might need to do travelling often between kl and pg. eek eek eek...
i took some car test around the showroom yesterday, at first i wanna buy saga se, but when the SA convinced me to try persona, it was....amazing, the cruising speed and the pickup is good, and i also drive like siao kia that time, i made rough cornering until the SA said he might get heart atk if i do that again(i shouldnt play need for speed doh.gif )

ok here's why i choose b line persona:
1) 1.6
2) bigger compartment(make love easier, oh sorry sorry just joking tongue.gif )
3) bigger trunk(can keep chainsaw to make kl chainsaw massacre)
4) bigger tyres(i dont like saga wheelbase small like men's tities)
5) 4 power windows(facelift saga also got, why dont take that? imo saga facelifted become incompatible, if you're not a sport car, dont use sporty look)
6) gear clutch and steering better control(shift into the future, nissan slogan wor...)
7) look terre(big car can frighten ppl)
8) no airbag(wtf?! no airbag also wanna buy? ahem, got my own reasons. acutally airbag will make us throw caution into the wind, drive fast, then, even if you wear iron man suit also cant save you, due to g-force. ae86 also no airbag, no abs+ebd, but still become cultural icon? think abt it...)
9) i can afford it

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post Nov 29 2010, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(rckh @ Nov 29 2010, 05:51 PM)
Persona is not cheap to maintain.  Buy other cheaper makes with higher specs.  to suit your budget. B-Line not recommended.
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nope, as i said i need to do some travelling between kl and pg, saga would not meet my end, so i chose persona
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post Nov 30 2010, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(rckh @ Nov 29 2010, 09:16 PM)
BTW. The sales person didn't tell you about the soon-to-be-launched Saga facelift?
http://paultan.org/2010/10/25/proton-saga-...ch-of-spyshots/
http://paultan.org/2010/08/09/proton-saga-...tong-nkve-toll/
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i already know that long time ago, but after seeing what proton engineer did to it's face, it's damn ugly, and i wanna get a better car than saga
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post Nov 30 2010, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Nov 30 2010, 09:06 AM)
humm the main reason why i chose B line over M or H line is because, i am not willing to spend more for a damn local car. No doubt that Persona is a good car though. But as long as the car is stuck with a damn local made logo brand....... no thanks tongue.gif Think of it, cars in this damn country is so damn overpriced. Even the damn local cars are damn f***ing overpriced.

Damn damn!!!  laugh.gif
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i agreed with what you said, i missed out that part lol.
hmmm, it is very obvious that 25yrs, proton still cant compete with other carmakers internationally. proton starts from rebadging mitsubishi cars, cut ties with them, shake lotus' nut, then come back kiss mitsubishi ass rclxm9.gif no offense, we NEVER had our 1st national car in 1985, the year i was born.(this is how pride can blinded our reality).
the reasons stems from the protectionism from the government, that it still maintain the car price advantage.
of course the emergence of perodua put proton head to head with it, putting proton somewhat in carmaker competition race. too bad, protectionism kicks in again, perodua can never make sedan as it only for proton. but so what? myvi a subcompact hatchback car that cant even have sex in the car, but still that car is the best selling car!

regarding overprice, i cant agree more than you. malaysia as a country that produce their own car, shouldnt bear the name like 2nd highest in the world in car price. if honda city removed import duty, it would be almost same price as proton saga(shame on you), if vios doesnt imposed on import duty, cheaper than viva( cry.gif ). a friend of mine who lived in america for 10 yrs before, he said, if you can afford toyota camry 2.4v in malaysia, you can afford ferrari in america( doh.gif )

i hope those read this post dont personal atk me like(if you dont like proton car then you keluar dari malaysia!), this proves that you're barbaric than cavemen, i can recommend you to stay the best cave. it's true, i got this racial slur before when i was commenting abt how bad a game, yes a game before, and guess what? personal atk, very immature.

if you're not and discuss this issue like a grown up man/woman, i salute you and buy you a packet of condom icon_rolleyes.gif


FC for persona, i heard is more conservative than myvi, that's why i dont wanna buy myvi. can anyone rectify this?

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post Nov 30 2010, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Nov 30 2010, 09:31 AM)
i like the way you view at matters / things and talk.  thumbup.gif
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then high 5, cos not only government sucks, malaysian sucks too, our mentality are close to retard. i bet 2020 never realised and there will be 2040, 2060, 2080 or whatever catchy numbers they can come up with.
talk abt driving car on the road, you see how stupid they drive? ppl say kl ppl drive like daredevil(not like spiderman meh?), but i think kl ppl drive smart, but still sucks. parking, sudden brake, no signal, pass red traffic lights, etc doh.gif
with all suckers and f***ers in this country, and that's what we are, and i still cant sleep well last night(2nd night), sleep at 12, woke up at 4.30am playing lotro. cos i'm too excited abt my new crappy car, some1 must've wanna kill me if i stay close to him 5m, very contradict each other this statement, no choice la, i always drive a bike, this is my 1st car, no need suffer rain anymore(yesterday back from work baru kena, luckily live nearby to office)although proton sucks big time, but i see inspira as a good car(of course la, rebranding ma, malaysia boleh ma, take out that logo and modify to lancer lagi shiok ma)

haha, anyway just wanna start a healthy discussion, if everyone mentality is open, not easily offended, and can take critics well and and transform it into drive force, i'm 120% malaysia will be better than sing-gay-pore
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post Nov 30 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Nov 30 2010, 10:07 AM)
LOL.. Yeah I agree with you.. 25years down the road.. No matter how much we discuss here, we wont be able to make much of a difference.. The real difference is if we are able to turn our voice into action.. Change the government. I nvr say BN is bad, neither do i say PKR is good. We must let our voice and power be heard. Let them know that they wont have a nice A/C room to sit in if they ignore our voice. Everybody u see around complaints bout this and that.. But ask them to go vote, they say its a waste of time lah.. Same results every year lah.. Corruption lah... They will change the vote later lah... Blah blah blah... Its not about the car price whether its cheap or not cheap.. Its the regulation and the way they tax our car.. If we were to enforce stricter regulation on emission standards like Europe, our cars wont just be cheaper, but much more efficient and environmental friendly too.. Any car maker can bring in a cheap car, but u must know our country is here to survive beyond 2020, more like till the end of time (2012 tongue.gif ) We must look at everything as a whole.. How our future generation are going to survive.. how clean and fresh the air is.. Just look at singapore.. They are able to create a clean environment with good quality air and a lot of trees.. Look at Putrajaya, we have more land than Singapork but we have recorded a higher avg temp over there due to poor landscaping and the lack of trees. Thus causing more electric to be used for A/C blah blah blah..

Do we really want a 100storey tower? Do we need one?? Yeah we MAY need it.. Its good for country long term development, but the real important issues to be settled are the problems we are having now, not the problems we are going to have in the future. Traffic jams in KL, low grade petrol and diesel quality, no minimum standards for cars (airbag etc).. They think every ppl are born to drive isit?? See how many ppl in msia sucks at driving, inconsiderate bastards that dont even bother signalling and hogging fast lane.. Gomen always try to reduce our speed limit, saying speed kills etc etc.. But what really kills ppl is the lack of skills in driving.. If speed kills, why a F1 or rally driver doesnt die? Its the skills they have that allows them to remain in control. The unskilled drivers on the road are what causes MOST of the accidents. Other people have to be aware of these people on the roads. And those ah bengs on the road.. Want to potong here and there but causing unnecessary braking and avoidance to other drivers. I dont mind if u speed and swish around the whole highway, as long as u dont interrupt other ppls driving pace and dont create unnecessary trouble for other people.. Then go ahead. I support u.  thumbup.gif
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bro, i like every word you said, except menara warisan(everyone is free to give opinion smile.gif )
power will corrupt ppl, even with good intentions, bn start off as good(reclaiming independence from us), but now they sit on the throne for too long, they must come down, same case for pr. i vote just to bring msg to them, no matter how much deed they did. singapork, last time got a minister said, let's wait to see how singapork die, now after 40yrs, singapore is 1 of the 4 bruce lee in asia(singapore, taiwan, japan, korea). and now a minister said, of course la singapork so small easy to manage ma, no corruption ma(means that big country allow corruption?! look at usa dude!)

i like the clarification of how skill can affect the probability of accidents, i'd put my legs up to agree. some ppl skills no good still wanna perform crazy stunts, i've seen before with my very own eyes, an old volvo tried to overtake a satria, cross lane here and there, then what happens is that volvo hit a motorcyclist(i bet he dunno what happens until he woke up at hospital), it was like SloMo, like in the matrix, the mirror shattered slowly, the rider bounced off, the bike fly with him then the vision came back normal.(it happens at subang, on the way to sunway pyramid, the motorcyclist fell off at the bus stop)see how retard is malaysian driver? hmmm, i think muhiyiddin yassin should include racing syllibus to current education system, isnt passing car driving lesson more important than history? at least you dont get killed, or worse, killed other innocents bcos of your retardness.
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post Nov 30 2010, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Nov 30 2010, 10:48 AM)
uhhhhhh......... hello 3 of you........ quite a bit out of topic leh......  shakehead.gif  laugh.gif
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ya i know, thinking a way to turn in back into the topic, um, FC for persona b line is it lower than myvi 1.3?
can anyone clarify that?

and how long it takes to tint window? can it be made on the spot without leaving my car at the workshop?
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post Nov 30 2010, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Nov 30 2010, 11:07 AM)
oops forget to mentioned, my 3 hours is including removing the original safetint from proton
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um, FC comparison between persona and myvi?
i live around old klang road, and where can i get the best value tinting shop? i wanna tint all windows, block uv more than 80%
um, the SA promised me a rm300 tint voucher, can it cover all my needs?

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post Nov 30 2010, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(azrko @ Nov 30 2010, 02:24 PM)
ok.. i will try with ur spec.. hope it will make the power steering lighter than now.. btw, pls add my name in the owner list.. Persona B-line Irrediscent white  thumbup.gif
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your persona is Irrediscent white? is it old 1 or facelifted 1?as far as i'm concerned persona only have genetic silver closes to white color
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post Nov 30 2010, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Nov 30 2010, 02:41 PM)
I also stay Old  Klang road area.  biggrin.gif :)Try google Automotive Garage section. I Tint my Persona at Kuchai Lama Raytech. There a lot option in automotive  section

Can try here
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1524992
Those voucher seems useless.  I tint mine RM 530 with Security 4 mil  Tint if i am not wrong. happy.gif
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how useless is useless? care to advise? i just wanna tint my car cool, and i dont want bcos of prolonged sunrays my car internal damaged by it.

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post Nov 30 2010, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Nov 30 2010, 02:56 PM)
U try not to show them the voucher first. Then nego price.... Then when price ok already u pay with the voucher, see u get back the price you nego minus the voucher value or not ?

If can then is good.
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my noob look will let them pawn 99 1, somemore i just only apply for loan for the car only but get so excited!!! cos this is my 1st car! whoa like gonna married d, like what happens before my convo, like gonna wed! wahahha...

um, i'm not familiar with subang there, cannycool? watch them tint i'll fall asleep, near where? sunway pyramid?
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Nov 30 2010, 03:41 PM)
More nearer to Asia Cafe i can say.. I will be going there this week or next week to tint my front windscreen.. If u want me to show u the way also no prob. I am staying in USJ 1 there.. yeah this persona my first car too.. First night i cant even sleep.  tongue.gif So excited.. Drive and drive more than 250km on the first night i got my car itself. haha.
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i'll go to take my car at 8th jan la, after work. cos financial planning, so i dont wanna get tighten down and really no rush in getting car.
um, i'd be appreciate if some1 can accompany a noob like me to go tint thumbup.gif
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post Nov 30 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Nov 30 2010, 04:11 PM)
wah which SA so good can give you a firm date to take car?
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not really firm date la, just put at their showroom outside there, until i ready to take. hehe, i think i ask him to cover my car with carcoat 1st, then when i arrived, the carcoat removed and swooosh, my 1st car!

pik piak stop dreaming! tongue.gif

the SA is at serdang, the showroom just facing highway 1, the showroom nearby place to eat paper wrapped chicken 1, very famous 1. slrppp...
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post Nov 30 2010, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Nov 30 2010, 04:20 PM)
ooo i know where liao, i'm working in sri kembangan ahha, dun be surprise during the time when you want to take the car the SA told you the car already been taken by others haha
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huh? why? that SA cheat ppl?
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post Nov 30 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Nov 30 2010, 04:36 PM)
ya that's the scenario, they won't so stupid reserved the car purposely for u, once there's demand, they will not miss out any chance to generate more income hehe, SA words you trust 10% ok oredi.
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oh...then i must think of a strategy d, maybe like putting plate number on it once it arrived. um, i dont think that's a big deal la, if the car taken is ok, but promised the quality must be better.

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post Nov 30 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Nov 30 2010, 05:00 PM)
you haven't pay how can you get the car registered under your name, must be step by step bro,
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huh? honestly i dunno the step lo, my loan is just pending, after approved i'll come to the showroom to sign the letter, then start booking car, until i'm ready to take car then only sign, pay all the d'p. settle. is it like that?
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post Nov 30 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(khtee @ Nov 30 2010, 05:18 PM)
u see the loop hole is in between booking ur car and taking ur car.... booking doesnt mean confirm u get tat particular car
until u pay the downpayment .. then the car can be registered to u...else is still not urs... so u cant..... put a car plate... u are not even suppose to drive tat car away to do anything at all.
btw... y do u want to wait ..... longer if the car have arrived...? just go get it.. and enjoy the experience!!
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i got my reasons la, cos i wanna plan my financial properly, i've tendered my resignation and my last day is until end of jan before cny. i dont want my car to kena tarik if i cant secure the amount to pay installment, but of course i got financial backup la, so not really need to worry, just wanna save as much as possible, control my lust for the car 1st...


Added on November 30, 2010, 5:27 pm
QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Nov 30 2010, 05:24 PM)
tomorrow 1st day of the month oh, any news ron97 price going to increase?
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why use ron97? isnt it more expensive?

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