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daddoo
post May 16 2011, 02:24 PM

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Too bad, my plan was out of control. Thought to invert hover at the last battery but then I got an urgent call and straight away go home already ......

Up to now flip flip only loh ...... hehehehehhe later this week i see how lah .... because recently I am joining a gang of heli pilots in Penang now.
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post May 16 2011, 10:03 PM

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Hohohoho, my skill if far behind them ..... but i am steady flier so they cant push me much also .... just go there to enjoy flying with peoples only tongue.gif

Also see see people's big heli and syok syok a bit lah .... me no $$$ to buy big one so see see already happy ... kekkekeke
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post May 17 2011, 08:28 AM

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Ohhhh, I also wonder where is he now.

But he is still replying in MRC lah sometime. HEhehehe, I think he gave up replying in this thread ........ tongue.gif
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post May 18 2011, 10:50 PM

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Is that because you are using Futaba's radio so you can go so far?

Take a look at the price of Futaba's receiver, wow can buy 3 pieces of Walkera 2801 Rx with 1 piece of Futaba Rx .......

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post May 20 2011, 07:34 AM

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Hehehe, RTH feature include auto landing or not?
Not sure about futaba but my radio once i turn off then the receiver will not able to bind again even though the radio is on again. Futaba can ar? Else with RTH how to control ur landing?
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post May 20 2011, 10:16 PM

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Hoooooooo, you're back ... hehehheheh welcome welcome smile.gif
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post May 22 2011, 01:03 PM

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Hehehe, experienced my first inverted hover for 10 seconds today sweat.gif

Shaking thumbs again rclxub.gif


Added on May 23, 2011, 12:25 am
Qiw, did you notice an extra pinion in your box when you got your 4g6s?



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post May 23 2011, 11:27 AM

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the stock setup for your 4g6s should be using 12T. My stock motor (005) is degrading now so using 12T sometimes it can bog down easily.

Hehehehhe, just tried the 14T setup with existing throttle curve, in idle up mode my 4g6 I feel like getting the lifting torque like the trex one ..... but then the wire and motor are damn hot .... gonna reduce my throttle curve later and see see how .....

Sure scary lah with the new learning curve .... else why my thumb shaking .... but then got once I almost crash the heli as I messed up the yaw during inverted .... fortunately I was able to flip it back on time .....
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post May 23 2011, 02:12 PM

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Hey, wasted lah like that ... better sell it to me tongue.gif
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post May 23 2011, 07:54 PM

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Yes, your 4G6S ..... biggrin.gif
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post May 24 2011, 09:02 AM

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I do need the 'S' for stability tongue.gif
Hehehehe, easy for me to flip this little bird .........
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post May 25 2011, 02:09 PM

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Might be bringing in a 250 size for learning.
Surveying how much do I need to spend for CopterX 250 SE.

Already have this ESky ESC and a GA-250 gyro to be used. I am looking for cyclic and tail servo. A bit troublesome with GA-250 because it takes digital servo only.

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post May 25 2011, 06:43 PM

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too pricey already lah trex250, almost comparable to the price of a 450 sport.

Heard that Henge's MD933/MD922 not bad though, is this the same servo that HK just re-brands it?


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post May 26 2011, 10:40 PM

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Qiw, is that normal for the tail to yaw left when i hit throttle hold?
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post May 27 2011, 09:25 AM

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Have not tried this on the 450 Pro yet .... heheheh sorry for not telling earlier, it was the 4G6 I was talking about .....

Should be something to do with this little heli as I cant find this situation on the other bigger heli as well .....
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post May 28 2011, 11:33 PM

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Yoooo Yoooo, tomolo is another inverting day!!!
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post May 29 2011, 12:48 AM

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Too bad i am not living near to u or else i will go and feel ur fpv poison already .... Hehehe


Added on May 29, 2011, 9:46 pmAlamak, Align's 450 Pro main shaft bearing so weak. Well, I crashed my 450 Pro today and just a minor crash the main shaft bearings are gone.

Hehehe, main gear, main shaft, flybar and main blade have to replace. But it looks like the feathering shaft survive loh .... using a screw driver and turn it but can't seem to see something on the blade grip.



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post May 30 2011, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2011, 11:47 PM)
i will prolly be getting a new set which is more powerful for my FPV
so will sell off my OLD SET CHEAP when i decide to do that

heli crashes are unpredictable one laaa .. so parts damage count oso unpredictable ... thing i hate with heli is .. after u fix everything u can SEE DAMAGED and u go fly it and something else comes up .. hahahaha
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That's my worry, it was actually crashing down during inverting. A bit surprise when the feathering shaft is still good.
But still I think I wont replace this until I found something on it. Hehehe, removing the feathering shaft should be simpler comparing to changing my main shaft bearing.


Added on May 30, 2011, 11:22 am
QUOTE(calvin_ng @ May 30 2011, 09:58 AM)
Dammit... my rotor head screw snapped... rotor fly out... crash!!!

Damage...
1: 1pc hex screw
2: 1 hex bolt/nut
3: Align T head for 450 sport
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Your "jesus bolt"? The screw that locking the head with the main shaft?

That one cannot be over tighten. Just nicely lock the bolt and threadlock will be fine.

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post May 30 2011, 07:55 PM

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Qiw, is that normal that the tail yaw to left slower and yaw to right faster because of the main rotor torque?

I can feel that right piro is faster or did I have something wrong in the setup?
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post May 31 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 30 2011, 10:22 PM)
if your piro rates are slightly different ... adjust your end points
if u have equal travel on both directions and tail blade has no or very little countering pitch when servo is centered then for sure one direction piro will always be faster than the other due to main rotor torque
adjust using your dual rate for rudder .. leave the end point adjustment on the gyro and travel adjust alone


Added on May 30, 2011, 10:28 pmor if u do not wanna touch the radio setup then do this preferable method (i did it this way) ...
then u have to do the rate mode style rudder setup like for the older gy401

put your gyro into rate mode (gain is same % as your head hold) instead of head hold ... then try and hover your heli
u will find the heli tail wanna swing to the right ie. no countering torque
adjust the linkage to provide more pitch to counter the tail going right ... normally is until about 8 degree pitch (almost impossible to gauge by eye unless u expert) ...
when u can hover the heli in rate mode relatively stable without the tail drifting too much (damm hard to get perfect no drift) and no rudder input correction ... then u are done and no need to adjust radio or any other electronics
put your gyro back into head hold mode ... test your piro and u will see that left and right piro rates will be the same
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Let me try to understand what you were saying.

Well. The length of the tail shaft will always be fixed, so it gives you the absolute value of pitch all the time. For example, 20 degrees with +10/-10 or +13/-7 or +15/-5. Just assumption!

If we do that in rate mode then at servo horn centered, then it should be around 8 degrees (counter torque). But then although servo horn is centered and now your tail pitch slider not center already. From there isn't it the tail pitch will still be only +10/-10 and it just that your center the servo horn (not tail pitch slider) with +8 and maybe you have another +2 to counter the torque only. In this situation will it still giving the same piro speed on both direction?

The 450 Pro has a fixed position to install the servo so is that possible to achieve uneven tail pitch? Like +13/-7 or +15/-5



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