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daddoo
post May 2 2011, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Apr 30 2011, 03:31 PM)
should have just gotten the ALIGN in the 1st place la rite ?? hehehehe

the 450M like i said earlier ... very makan lipo .. and it runs quite hot compared to scorpion even .. have to find time to change my motor .. hahahahaa

for the time being ... damm syok with my FPV .. today went to another place to fly .. good chance to explore with my FPV .. not so easy to get lost once i am comfortable with my FPV tongue.gif
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IF i know in the first place that i am still so poisoning today i would have go for trex cry.gif

Hehe, nvm lah bcp is not that bad for a beginner to start with, by looking at the money you need to pay to get everything started. But in long term definitely it is not a good choice.

Hohoho, flipped my trex already. The sound damn scary when flipping in the air, the shaking feeling came again. Fortunately i din crash it although there was one nearly crashing it. blush.gif

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post May 3 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(scyter @ May 1 2011, 06:54 PM)
by the way..i starting to get used flying this heli..haha..maybe next week or 2 more i will go buy larger heli..mybe i will go for Walkera V400D02 series to started with.

any suggestion?? buying Align Trex series would cost me more..dont want exceed RM1k ;D
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Flying a 6CH CP heli is totally different with flying a coaxial heli. Must consider carefully before you really buy the heli and I think we all here really recommend you to play the SIM first.
It is very easy once you are in the SIM for example, play for the first time in SIM and try not to crash the heli, if you crashed, that means you save $$$ from repairing real heli already. Without SIM, you were actually crashing the real one just like you did in the SIM. So from there, maybe you can deicide.

Based on my experience with Walkera heli, it is OK to play with but their parts are not cheap though. If you are getting V400D02 it is recommended to take the package with 2801 Pro Tx. From there you can save from investing another new Tx for other heli in the future.

Hehehe, if your budget is tight, forget about the trex series as the 250 size heli only already 1K.

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post May 5 2011, 08:20 AM

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Why hovering a bigger heli the ball will shrink?
It suppose to be easier unless i am flying in the real cockpit tongue.gif


Added on May 5, 2011, 9:31 am
QUOTE(QiW @ May 5 2011, 07:41 AM)
already tried trex 600E ... no probs
in fact the 600 feels like a big elephant .. slow motion but the floating power is incredible .. pump it and it goes up like rocket
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Hehehe, that 600E using the latest 600MX motor? Some people complaint the 600M motor lacking of power for 600 size heli. But I think Align is coming out with 650E soon ...... drool.gif poison loh .......

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post May 5 2011, 10:44 AM

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Hehehe, if no $$$ then give your fren your 450 Pro as the repair cost tongue.gif .....
Wonder what would be the average repair cost of a 600 electric heli.

I guess should be AT LEAST RM300 or 400 plus since the bigger the heli the heavier the impact ......
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post May 5 2011, 12:25 PM

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Errrrr ..... my assumption like that,
Align CF blade is around RM180.
Feathering Shaft is RM20.
Main Shaft is RM40.
Flybar rod is RM20
Flybar paddle is RM50.
Main gear is RM40.

So add up around RM350. How come the 600 size main blade you mentioned so expensive one? Edge/Radix rotor blade?


Added on May 5, 2011, 12:31 pm
Any idea if this carbon fiber tail boom can be used for Trex 450 Pro?

http://www.hobbysportz.com/index.php?main_...products_id=367




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post May 5 2011, 03:29 PM

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That one should be curtis youngblood's radix. It around RM300 and you are right.

No lah, I wont kacau the tail of the heli from now until it crashes. Just surveying the carbon fiber tail boom as Align does not look like selling it. The carbon fiber tail boom seems harder and lighter, also I heard that during a crash you don't have to worry the boom is bent or not. A carbon fiber boom will either breaking apart or still good to be used.

But I have ordered the tarot's lengthened battery metal tray for my Pro, at this moment the battery is tight fit with canopy and a bit hard to adjust the CG. Always tail heavier in the air .... the swash should be leveled because it is setup using swash plate leveler.


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post May 5 2011, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ May 5 2011, 03:32 PM)
I say man you should say earlier.. I have 1 Tarot metal battery tray (for pro) the hobby shop send me the wrong ones when I order for sport version...
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thanks first, but just the battery tray cannot use lah. Tarot's lengthened tray has to order another part -> canopy clip which is metal also ....... or else you have to cut your align stock plastic battery tray to make the canopy clip.

Hehehehehe, why din you return to the shop and ask for refund?


Added on May 5, 2011, 3:40 pm
Back to the main blade ah ... what's wrong with the Align's CF blade?

And what so special with those EDGE, RADIX blade? Price really in huge different and so far I only know that the Align's blade is not all the time well balanced. My 450 Pro has some electrical tape on the blade so it looks ugly a bit sad.gif

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post May 6 2011, 12:04 AM

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If you have a servo tester then everything will be easy.
Or else if you have a tx/rx system it will do your job as well.

Other than that i think you have to supply the PWM pulse (not sure how you are going to do this) to the signal line already, and dont forget to supply operating voltage and ground.
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post May 6 2011, 09:43 AM

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Mr. IR.diode, I just found some information about rc servo. Take a look and verify the information yourself.

http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_RC_Servos_Works/

There is a very very simple "servo tester" circuitry and it may be suitable for your application, the components to build this is easy to get from electronics shop.

Hehehe, is that your final year project to use a servo?
Take note that the circuitry provided to connect to the servo has different connections. Usually I found my servo has the control signal at the side and 5V supply in the middle, the other one is ground.



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post May 6 2011, 01:59 PM

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Alright, then just continue the discussion in electronics forum, hehehe this is a RC forum tongue.gif


Added on May 6, 2011, 2:21 pmAiya, shit ..... now only I found that I forgot to adjust my end point.
By right I should center the swash and level the swash plate at mid stick. Then high stick & low stick to adjust the swash plate using travel adjust/end point. But I din and only level the swash at mid stick ........

Hehehehehe, what would be the problem if so? Heli not stable during high stick and low stick?

How to remedy? Just fly and observe then adjust the end point from time to time?

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post May 6 2011, 05:10 PM

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Ohhhh, let me clarify. I was not saying about the blade's pitch.

I was talking about, at mid stick, the swash plate is level, i.e. the swash leveler tool touches all three points (elev, aile & pitch servo are at the same level).
So let say I move to high stick now, then my aileron servo is slightly lower now and I notice a small gap between the swash leveler tool and the swash plate, the other 2 points are fine and there are no gap.
Under this situation I think all we can do is to adjust the aileron endpoint.
That's what I read from the internet, make sense to you ar?

So it is about swash leveling. blush.gif

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post May 6 2011, 09:24 PM

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Hehe, it looks like u dont bother the swash leveling at high or low stick. But then those guai low suggest that u can use end point to adjust this at high and low stick, it make sense to me lah.
But too late already, if i redo the swash leveling again at high and low stick then i have to dismantle the head already.
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post May 6 2011, 11:05 PM

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You have your point also. If i remember correctly, the gap is less than 0.5 mm so i am not bothering as well.
But the ds410 servo is not really smooth and accurate for my case, if you see carefully then each servo will move at different speed when i move the stick up or down. From center to high or low stick, sometimes aileron servo is higher, sometimes pitch servo is lower a bit. Then at the highest stick, they are not all level but center stick there is no such issue. Anyhow, like i said the gap usually less than 0.5 mm so should be negligible like u said.
Hmmmmm, can try to lower the servo voltage maybe at lower speed it is smoother. At this moment i am driving them at 6 volts. Huahaha, dont know when they will burn.
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post May 7 2011, 08:01 AM

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I know and i remember. But instead of listening to others, i would like to verify this myself.
Some of others have no problem to run at 6v so lets see which group i am belonging to tongue.gif
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post May 8 2011, 02:46 PM

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Hehehe, ok no problem.

Wow, so impress will the 700 size heli. Went to a flying site to see people playing, the sound of the blade during maneuver damn poison. But a sifu there quite bad luck today, 2 big heli crashed.


Added on May 8, 2011, 9:48 pm
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Selling my cheapo Belt CP V2, take a look if interested:

http://malaysia-rc.com/index.php?topic=20669.0
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post May 9 2011, 09:38 AM

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Impressed only but not necessary to get one because I have a lot of things that impressed me more tongue.gif

Hehehehe, maybe next year's project ......

Aiya, that epoxy fix on my Cessna not so strong. The nylon firewall broken again when I landed on a bumpy surface. Another flier told me to glue back using foam-safe CA. Because epoxy dont stick well on nylon.


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post May 9 2011, 01:05 PM

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Errr, sorry. What do you mean? That mean, I can't use foam-safe CA?
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post May 9 2011, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ May 9 2011, 07:53 PM)
hello

how much is an average fun to play rc heli ?

i saw in toy r us.. selling rm 100 for those rc heli
nice?

easy to learn ?
or have to buy those expensive versions ?
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Depends, if you have never flown one before, coaxial heli is fun to start with and that should be those you have seen in toy r us.

Lazy to repeat again, so may be you gorek back the old posts lah ....

Some information here in this page, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1642879/+740
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post May 12 2011, 05:03 PM

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For sure I would not try this at home because I have none of this to try tongue.gif
But nice sharing, first time I see a flying desk .... wuahahahhaha


Added on May 13, 2011, 10:52 am
feel good enough in the sim for inverted hover. gonna try this tomorrow ... hehhehehe .... what else i need to take note before doing this?
for example, the CG?

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post May 13 2011, 01:14 PM

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It should be easier and I really agree with you .... but I will still shaking for the first few times .... it is torturing to learn new stunt every time ..... alamak!!!


Align is coming out with new poison soon, hehehehhe 12S LiPo one ....

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