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daddoo
post Jun 9 2011, 02:53 PM

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Cant imagine how would I feel if he is holding a spanner in front of me tongue.gif


Added on June 9, 2011, 5:40 pm
Opppssss, RC Heli recall in US ......

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11236.html


Added on June 9, 2011, 9:30 pm
Qiw, r u using Futaba 8FG?

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post Jun 9 2011, 11:27 PM

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So far any complain on ur 8fg?
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post Jun 10 2011, 12:45 PM

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Yeap, I agree with you, Qiw.

A combo package is around RM1.3K now but it comes with a receiver worth RM400, battery, battery charger and accessory I think.

But the problem is their receiver is quite expensive loh .....


Added on June 10, 2011, 1:03 pm
But what happen to the 10CHG radio? It looks like a lot of the people are selling theirs ..... because it cannot use with the lower end receiver like R617FS?



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post Jun 10 2011, 10:31 PM

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Hehehe, my cessna can fly that long ar if there is thermal?
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post Jun 11 2011, 02:27 PM

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Yeap, but that is something somehow very nice already ......
If you want to start cheaper, around 600++RM can get most of the thing, a 450 heli but don't recommend if you afford to pay more for better heli.

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post Jun 11 2011, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(chenghoe @ Jun 11 2011, 10:48 PM)
daddo,

What do you mean by 450 heli? Pricing?

Any brand/model you can recommend?
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No lah, 450 heli is a size of the heli. There are 250, 450, 500, 550 and etc.
450 size is quite popular. I can recommend align trex 450 if you think you want to fork out at least 2k to start. That is a pretty nice heli. I started with not so recommended esky belt cp, then kena poison kau kau and now i am flying a 450 trex.

There are quite a lot of choices in 450, other than the above you can look for tarot, flasher or hk450. These are the famous clone of align trex. If you are going with the clone, i recommend tarot because their quality not bad though. But this is what i read and heard only. Tarot parts are mainly in hk and china, so far not much in malaysia so you might consider that as well just in case u need parts after crash.
Start with a clone may be cheaper than a align trex.

For example, this one is around rm600++ ( exclude shipping )
http://www.hobby-wing.com/tarot-450-pro-rc...uper-combo.html

Trex is around 1k++, but of course the electronics are not the same lah .....

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post Jun 12 2011, 08:08 PM

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All are Ready To Fly (RTF) package, it means you have everything ready for you to start but may require setup prior to fly.

The first one and the second one should be 4 channels fixed pitch heli only. They are easy to learn compare to the third one, which is a 6 channels collective pitch and bigger heli.

If you want to go for the third one, you don't have to get it from OHS. LHS already selling this Belt CP V2. Anyhow, try to get the newer version, Belt CPX that is a newer design. But ah, Belt CP heli is not so recommended unless you are not willing to spend more.

This LHS, rcdreamz carries walkera heli as well but I think you should compare the price first tongue.gif
Also, importing the whole heli and transmitter from oversea may bring you some problems dealing with our custom.

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post Jun 12 2011, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(chenghoe @ Jun 12 2011, 08:26 PM)
So walkera>belt cp helis?

What is not so recommended feature of this belt cp actually?

Besides buying the whole heli package, what is the maintainance cost like?

I'm thinking of getting the flyless bar version helis, looks easy to fly.
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Most obvious one is the stability, easy setup and 3D capable (pilot skill not counted of course tongue.gif) compare to a Trex.
So in other words, bcp is not so stable, hard to setup and not so capable of doing 3D stunts.

Maintenance cost? Depends on how frequent you crash, a Trex minor crash would have to cost you at least RM100 already but probably not much difference for a belt cp to crash. Battery for a 450 size heli is quite affordable nowadays so the cost should not be very high. One 2200maH 35C 3S LiPo is around RM80 and if you taking good care of it the battery can last quite long.

For example I have one for my belt cp previously, after a year I still can use it on my trex now for sport flying. There are at least 100 cycles of charging/discharging already.

Anyway, what's your budget first? It would be easier to give you suggestion .....


Added on June 12, 2011, 9:59 pm
QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 12 2011, 08:47 PM)
the cost of a BMW and a MYVI is not the same
maintenance costs oso not the same
looks oso not the same
but they can both get u from point A to point B

basically the same reasons stands for helis as well ... get the idea ??
most of the time u get what u pay ...
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Hehehe, yes they can both get u from A to B but the speed is different ......... agree?


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post Jun 13 2011, 08:09 AM

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Not sure how good is the stability of a fbl because i have none. But i do believe it is better than a f'barred one.

Since you are still new to this hobby, i SUGGEST u to take the walkera FP heli first to feel the poison. Then maybe u r willing to dump in budget for a better heli later.

But if u want belt cp u should get this newer version,
http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=5048

Still less than rm600 exclude shipping.....
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post Jun 13 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Jun 13 2011, 08:23 AM)
Why not suggest him lama v3 first and a pheonix or realflight?

Anywhere where is ccfook eh? He's into Poodle and Tarantula (from his post) now ea, not into Heli anymore?  blush.gif
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You can suggest to him mah thumbup.gif

ccfook ar .. u try and kacau him loh whistling.gif


Added on June 13, 2011, 11:03 am
Actually ah, anyone heard of burning the receiver before because of servo drawing too much current?

For example if the trace of the PCB of a receiver can only handle 5A current max but if all the servo can draw up to 10A will it actually burn up the receiver because of this?


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post Jun 13 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 13 2011, 11:35 AM)
unlikely ... coz the current/power supply on the rx board are parallel
so if your servo draws very high current it will just pass thru transparently in the receiver .. current goes straight to your servo
never heard of a receiver burn coz of that ... most rx KO coz of crash and maybe burn in fire of crash ... hehehehe

having said that ... it is best to range test your rx if u have had severe crash with it b4 putting it into the next model
the UFL connectors inside maybe damaged of broken ... its super duper small
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Maybe I should re-phrase my question like this:

Think about a thin wire which can only sustain 1A max, if we are flowing 10A current through the wire I believe it may burn or melt down the wire. The printed circuit board has the traces to make up a circuit board, the traces are analogy to a wire in fact, it has its own specification as well.

So I am just asking if anyone experience this before. The receiver, I believe it has its own maximum current it can stand with, just that not really sure how much it usually can go .........

I found that my receiver is slightly warm after a flight and after using a higher ampere external BEC ...... sweat.gif
Hehehe, just curious only ......

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post Jun 13 2011, 05:53 PM

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Hehehehe, nvm lah ... forget about it because I heard people using the same Rx for 600 size so 450 size should be OK tongue.gif

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post Jun 14 2011, 08:22 AM

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Huh, walkera rx woh?
Futaba should be ok lah, i trust the brand.
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post Jun 14 2011, 12:50 PM

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below 1.5K? 450 Trex clone!!!

Don't be so keen to place order first, spend your $$ wisely by comparing the price tongue.gif


Added on June 14, 2011, 12:51 pm
QUOTE(kirashin @ Jun 14 2011, 12:33 PM)
hmm i m currently working in a hobby shop tat specialize in R/C heli...at tesco manjalara...there tons of heli to choose from..
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Hehehe, can I get staff pricing from you?

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post Jun 14 2011, 03:48 PM

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Oppppsssss, Qiw you also recommend that GA250 gyro, is that because you read a lot of good comments on it?

Or you use that before?
Hehehe, I have one on hand now but dun know where to use it tongue.gif Because of this I keep on thinking to get a 250 size heli to use this gyro ....
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post Jun 14 2011, 04:01 PM

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Yaloh, the comments are so tempted that I wanted to put it on and test .... but not for my 450Pro lah since I am learning entry level 3D now .... scare that cheapo gyro cannot cope with inverted stuff and let go the tail ......

Other than RealFlight I think Phoenix also not bad ..... Hehehe, probably going to order one for Phoenix to try try ....... dun know custom kacau or not if they found a CD/DVD in the parcel ..... you bought from HK also?
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post Jun 14 2011, 05:31 PM

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Calvin has some comments previously but not sure if he is still reading this thread or not ....

Or go to malaysia-rc website to find out tongue.gif

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post Jun 14 2011, 08:11 PM

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Hong Kong/China:

http://www.hobby-wing.com/
http://www.chinesejade.com/walkeraV200_Heli.htm
http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/index.php
http://www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=index
http://www.myrcmart.com/
http://www.flying-hobby.com/shop/


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post Jun 14 2011, 08:59 PM

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But take not that if you order from HK/CN it could take at least 2 weeks to reach you using registered airmail.

I have some online orders from them except the last one .......
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post Jun 14 2011, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(cpmboy @ Jun 14 2011, 09:48 PM)
what abt support@warranty@parts??.....2 weeks is not a problem...im quiet a patient person.....and ...what abt the last one u re talking abt??
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Hehehehe, a bit hard to get warranty for hobby parts. But so far I personally feel that the HK/CN sellers are more reliable, responsive and more responsible. Maybe better consumer right in those country and they are actually doing international business with the people all around the world.

But you have to take note that some of the OHS required you to pay for the shipping for return stuff which is DOA - Defect On Arrival.

The last one I was talking about is another hobby shop in HK I think, I have not done any order with them before but reputation not bad ....


Here's a video by dun know who which was comparing HK450 and TAROT heli ...... dun take it serious tongue.gif

==============> Video

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