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post Jan 14 2011, 09:37 PM

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post Jan 15 2011, 02:25 AM

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yo guys,how u setting scrotwm??

u using it now...haha... laugh.gif

but,its too weird..with all my open app catching by that... sad.gif

n how to make this wm auto start when login?? hmm.gif
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post Jan 15 2011, 04:56 PM

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I don't really understand what you're talking about. O_o?

what do you mean by "with all my open app catching by that" .... huh!!... app catching?!

I remember I posted some configs for ScrotWM on page 6 and 7 of this thread. Go check em out if you want. I created them to be usable on almost any setup/distro.

As for autostarting ScrotWM, I'm not sure, since I don't use GDM (all my systems start up to the command prompt, and then I load X manually via my .xinitrc with "startx" ... you know I don't like bloat, right?)

I think when you're in GDM and select ScrotWM, it will ask you if you want to make it the default session. If you say yes, than it should autostart ScrotWM everytime you boot/restart .. I think.

BTW, why is everyone wanting ScrotWM all of a sudden. Not just here but other forums as well. Suddenly this past two weeks, everyone has been asking me for my ScrotWM configs and tips. O_o?!! .... I remember it wasn't very popular among Linux users. Only BSD users liked it, since it was created for BSD at first.

I don't really understand the sudden popularity, but I guess it's a good thing.
Viva la Tiling!!
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post Jan 15 2011, 05:08 PM

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@faris
I don't really understand what you're talking about. O_o?

what do you mean by "with all my open app catching by that" .... huh!!... app catching?!
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LOL...sorry...my words is really2 berbelit2.. tongue.gif ..hem,nvm la..just forget it.. laugh.gif

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I remember I posted some configs for ScrotWM on page 6 and 7 of this thread. Go check em out if you want. I created them to be usable on almost any setup/distro.

As for autostarting ScrotWM, I'm not sure, since I don't use GDM (all my systems start up to the command prompt, and then I load X manually via my .xinitrc with "startx" ... you know I don't like bloat, right?)

I think when you're in GDM and select ScrotWM, it will ask you if you want to make it the default session. If you say yes, than it should autostart ScrotWM everytime you boot/restart .. I think.

ah,ok2...will refer it n try it..thanks.. notworthy.gif

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BTW, why is everyone wanting ScrotWM all of a sudden. Not just here but other forums as well. Suddenly this past two weeks, everyone has been asking me for my ScrotWM configs and tips. O_o?!! .... I remember it wasn't very popular among Linux users. Only BSD users liked it, since it was created for BSD at first.

hahaha...i really like that...hem...i dunno which one i would choose now...scrotwm,awesome or openbox..

still wondering... rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 15 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 15 2011, 05:08 PM)
hahaha...i really like that...hem...i dunno which one i would choose now...scrotwm,awesome or openbox..

still wondering... rolleyes.gif
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My recommendations would be OpenBox for floating and ScrotWM for tiling.

I never really thought much about Openbox (I used to be a hardcore BlackBox and FVWM user) until 3 years ago, when tried CrunchBang Linux. I was so impressed by how it had OpenBox configured, that I took it's configs and imported them to my other Arch and Debian installs at the time. I'm still an active member of the CrunchBang forums to this day, mainly to show my support for OpenBox. It's a bit hard to configure with it's rc.xml file, but once you learn, you can make it do almost anything (Even make it open an app window in an exact in aspecific position in a specific desktop). It's pipe-menus might not be as modular as fvwm, but you can still do a lot with it. It's probably the one truly dynamic WM out there.

ScrotWM I like mainly for it's speed and lightness. Unlike OpenBox or other tiling WMs like Xmonad or DWM, Scrot has the benefit of having really good defaults and a realy simple config. Even though I know a few programming languages, I still find it very enlightening to see a config file in plain, human English like that it ScrotWM. It does have some downsides, like not having as many options as Awesome, or lacking hooks like Xmonad (though the Quirks system in it's config makes up a bit in that aspect), and the lack of any start file means you'll need to make a simple script to load some daemons (like keymap, feh for wallpaper...etc), but it's the only tiling WM I ever use for my small systems like a netbook.

Awesome is very popular, and can do quite a lot. But I HATE it. (I call it AwfulWM). It calls itself a WM, but actually tries (and fails) to be a full DE. It has decent defaults, but changing anything requires some knowledge of Lua, which is easy, but very tedious (more leceh than OpenBox's .xml format, in fact).... seriously, I hate Lua... I think it's a shit nonsensical language[/rant] ... Plus, everytime it changes version, some of your old configs won't work. Also, cross your fingers whenever you update Cairo, cos it'll most likely break something in Awesome (I just had major breakage last month) .... Awesome for me has become the Poser WM, with all the Arch fanboys thinking they're 'experts' just because they managed to install Awesome and some basic Xdefaults >_> (no offence, I like ArchLinux, but hate the Arch fanboys... they're worse than Mac fanboys)

Just my 2 cents. You're free to use any WM you want (you should also check out Xmonad, CalmWM, DWM, wmii and Musca), but if you use Awful, I won't friend you anymore ... j/k tongue.gif


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A old ThinkPad laptop running Arch and wmii, which I use to control my torrent slave laptop and my mom's desktop.

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post Jan 15 2011, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jan 15 2011, 05:43 PM)
Just my 2 cents. You're free to use any WM you want (you should also check out Xmonad, CalmWM, DWM, wmii and Musca), but if you use Awful, I won't friend you anymore ... j/k tongue.gif
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haha...ok2,i'll choose scrotwm... tongue.gif

actually im wanna learn this custom since its very cool..!! cool2.gif

but,im too noob about how to compile,edit etc...any site,tutorial or whatever we call can help me to deeply understand this??
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post Jan 15 2011, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 15 2011, 07:01 PM)
haha...ok2,i'll choose scrotwm... tongue.gif

actually im wanna learn this custom since its very cool..!! cool2.gif

but,im too noob about how to compile,edit etc...any site,tutorial or whatever we call can help me to deeply understand this??
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There is no need to compile anything. Just install scrotwm from synaptic or terminal. After that just logout and select ScrotWm session instead of Ubuntu Desktop Edition.
U might need to configure your .scrotwm beforehand. 'man scrotwm' from terminal for help.
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post Jan 15 2011, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 15 2011, 09:29 PM)
There is no need to compile anything. Just install scrotwm from synaptic or terminal. After that just logout and select ScrotWm session instead of Ubuntu Desktop Edition.
U might need to configure your .scrotwm beforehand. 'man scrotwm' from terminal for help.
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oh..i see...i thought i must change windows manager from gnome-wm to scrotwm at ubuntu tweak... doh.gif

no wonder x jadi... laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 15 2011, 09:33 PM)
oh..i see...i thought i must change windows manager from gnome-wm to scrotwm at ubuntu tweak... doh.gif

no wonder x jadi... laugh.gif
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scrotwm shocking.gif i nak try oso XD
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WTF!! ... now everyone wants to ScrotWM?
What have I done?!! laugh.gif

@faris
Like Acid says, you don't need to compile from source since it's in your repos, and GDM should allow you to switch. He's probably a better person to ask regarding Ubuntu/GDM specific things like wallpaper setting and all that.

If you know how to sync to CVS, then I recommend you do to get the CVS dev version of ScrotWM, since the version in the Ubuntu/Debian repos is a bit old.

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post Jan 15 2011, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jan 15 2011, 10:43 PM)
WTF!! ... now everyone wants to ScrotWM?
What have I done?!! laugh.gif

@faris
Like Acid says, you don't need to compile from source since it's in your repos, and GDM should allow you to switch. He's probably a better person to ask regarding Ubuntu/GDM specific things like wallpaper setting and all that.

If you know how to sync to CVS, then I recommend you do to get the CVS dev version of ScrotWM, since the version in the Ubuntu/Debian repos is a bit old.
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what latest version now??0.9.27??ive seen this app at softpedia...

but i dunno how to install .tgz app... sweat.gif
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post Jan 15 2011, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 15 2011, 10:55 PM)
what latest version now??0.9.27??ive seen this app at softpedia...

but i dunno how to install .tgz app... sweat.gif
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Actually, the dev version is up to 0.9.8, iirc.
Nvm, you should just keep the one from your repos for stability sake. Once Debian Squeeze gets officially released, the Testing and Sid repos should go out of their frozen state and updated versions should come in, which will then trickle to the Ubuntu repos in future versions, probably. The one in your repos is the one that's considered "stable"

If you want to compile from source, just extract the folder to your /home directory. then cd into the folder. Since ScrotWM is mainly a BSD WM, it has a separate /linux folder, so you should cd into that as well.

Then you just "make" and "sudo make install"

You might need some libraries like libx11-dev, ncurses-base, ncurses-term and libncurses5-dev for whenever you plan to install WMs or CLI-centric apps, for good measure... so install them from your repos as well.

BTW, Softpedia has a history of phishing... don't use it!!

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post Jan 16 2011, 04:27 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jan 15 2011, 11:09 PM)
Actually, the dev version is up to 0.9.8, iirc.
Nvm, you should just keep the one from your repos for stability sake. Once Debian Squeeze gets officially released, the Testing and Sid repos should go out of their frozen state and updated versions should come in, which will then trickle to the Ubuntu repos in future versions, probably. The one in your repos is the one that's considered "stable"

If you want to compile from source, just extract the folder to your /home directory. then cd into the folder. Since ScrotWM is mainly a BSD WM, it has a separate /linux folder, so you should cd into that as well.

Then you just "make" and "sudo make install"

You might need some libraries like libx11-dev, ncurses-base, ncurses-term and libncurses5-dev for whenever you plan to install WMs or CLI-centric apps, for good measure... so install them from your repos as well.

BTW, Softpedia has a history of phishing... don't use it!!
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ah,ok...thanks for ur info... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

btw,imma too much lari topic.. laugh.gif ,so,wanna show off my first conky,haha... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

well,need to practise much about this..just weather config i cant setting much..huhu.. doh.gif doh.gif

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im sorry if this custom tooo doh.gif doh.gif ...well,this is my first conky custom,so i need learn to sifu2 sekalian.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 16 2011, 06:19 PM

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My WIP.I think I screwed up the wallpaper a bit.Some AwOken icons can't seem to go past 24x24.Especially on that left Adeskbar panel.This is CrunchBang Linux 10 "Statler" r20110105 Openbox ver as per sig.

**ACHTUNG! :- Slightly NSFW wallpaper depending on your office's or personal T&C ;p**
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post Jan 16 2011, 08:43 PM

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hmm currently just stick to default... so eager to wait for gnome 3.
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post Jan 16 2011, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jan 16 2011, 08:43 PM)
hmm currently just stick to default... so eager to wait for gnome 3.
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gnome 3 is quite good too..but when ive tried,i cant find any control panel... yawn.gif

n make my system lagging...btw,it just alpha if im not mistaken,just released at april this year..
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 16 2011, 08:47 PM)
gnome 3 is quite good too..but when ive tried,i cant find any control panel... yawn.gif

n make my system lagging...btw,it just alpha if im not mistaken,just released at april this year..
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The final release would be around this mid year, considering that plasma in KDE 4.x really pissed me, gnome is more rock stable DE compare to KDE. Sorry to say that.


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My WIP.I think I screwed up the wallpaper a bit.Some AwOken icons can't seem to go past 24x24.Especially on that left Adeskbar panel.This is CrunchBang Linux 10 "Statler" r20110105 Openbox ver as per sig.

**ACHTUNG! :- Slightly NSFW wallpaper depending on your office's or personal T&C ;p**
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Congrats, you managed to installed #!... I've to ditched #! due to some bug with my start up. Live CD just fine but no display with hard installed.

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Only reason I got to #! is that I want a full XFCE tuned LMDE which ain't gonna happen anytime soon unfortunately.Dreamlinux' Palemoon are working on a DL-mixed LMDE base but still no ETA for that too.It'd be nice if that can happen soon since XFCE 4.8 is coming out but I digress.Which is how I got to #! 10 Statler XFCE4 before even if it's actually Squeeze not Testing based.

Sorry to hear about your #! installation issue.That's why these days I only try stuff on live USB.Had similar pains before and too much "coasters" >.<::

1st time mucking about with openbox here I'm getting a light headache lol.May have to bug G-17 on some stuff soon.
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post Jan 17 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(eq8all @ Jan 16 2011, 11:50 PM)
even if it's actually Squeeze not Testing based.
Testing and Squeeze still share the same repo sources for now (until Squeeze is officially released). You can always just edit your sources.list and replace all the "squeeze" words with "testing", naturally.

I've never tried the Xfce version of #! Statler, but feel free to ask if you've got any OpenBox related queries. The #! forums are also a good place to look for configs and whatnot.

Cheers


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Ive been on hooked with Gaga's Ich bin mir absolut klar hook laugh.gif

Well , done some tweaking here and there with a new user account especially for this

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New user , new conky , new covergloobus , new style

Simple and easy Unity+Compiz laugh.gif

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