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 Mechanical Keyboard Club, For gamers, and typist enthusiasts

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post Dec 18 2010, 09:00 PM

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I can't imagine replacing my desktop keyboard with a touchscreen. Not for me, maybe for laptops I can compromise to save weight and space but never for desktops!
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post Dec 18 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Dec 18 2010, 08:54 PM)
May be with the growing/migrating of Touch Screen trend from smartphone industry to PC/Notebook/Tablet industry, they will skip the mechanical kb path and directly go into virtual kb. It will be much more convenience,mobile and suitable to type or use on tablet. There are program such as swype and many more to improve typing on virtual touchscreen kb. hmm.gif
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They did make something similar to the minority report.

But i think it's still a long way to refinement. That could be the future for human computer interfaces i agree nod.gif

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/09/kinect-...-destiny-video/

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Dec 18 2010, 09:27 PM
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post Dec 18 2010, 09:37 PM

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It's personal opinion and choice. Some people prefer the G19 because it has tons of functionality, looks really cool and has an LCD screen.

I don't judge them, people have their likes.

Typing is all about the feel about it, we can't dictate a person's taste.

Just because I like Maggi Goreng doesn't mean you need to. Get what I mean?
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post Dec 18 2010, 10:01 PM

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just got a black widow ultimate, not quite used to it, although the response is amazingly fast when typed


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post Dec 18 2010, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ Dec 18 2010, 09:37 PM)
It's personal opinion and choice. Some people prefer the G19 because it has tons of functionality, looks really cool and has an LCD screen.

I don't judge them, people have their likes.

Typing is all about the feel about it, we can't dictate a person's taste.

Just because I like Maggi Goreng doesn't mean you need to. Get what I mean?
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Very much so.

Not everyone likes mech keyboards no matter how awesome they are.
Some people just love the soft deep membrane feel (hey I know it sounds wrong but... please.. tongue.gif ).
That's the way it is.
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post Dec 18 2010, 10:09 PM

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Added on December 18, 2010, 11:02 pm
QUOTE(xcen @ Dec 18 2010, 02:08 PM)
Got my Ducky keyboard! Feels really nice. I will do a review soon when I have the time!

Still getting used to the lightness of the switch compared to rubber dome keyboard. Getting double spaces quite often.
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Xcen i've asked on GH why your spacebar is like that.

QUOTE(keyb_gr;265146)
What do they use on the spacebar anyway? My understanding was that the Duckys with browns had a black switch there (unless I'm mixing things up). I doubt we have a grey one here, at least I can't imagine anyone complaining about it being too light.

While linear MX switches are the most likely to exhibit accidental double presses, there shouldn't be that much key bounce. This may indicate either a soldering problem (as mentioned) or a "bouncy" switch contact that possibly could use a bit of bending or just replacement.


http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?p=265149#post265149


I recommend you sign up to GH and continue the conversation. Seems odd how you get double spaces :/ so it's better if you check with the experts how to fix it; or if you need to send it back under warranty.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Dec 18 2010, 11:02 PM
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post Dec 19 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 18 2010, 08:46 PM)
Somebody better tell Techster this. He still believes rubberdome bling keyboards like the G19 is way superior LOLZ!!

I still believe cheap rubberdome keyboards have their uses. Nobody want to spend so much on a keyboard before the more important pc hardware such as cpu, graphics card etc has been settled first.

But when people do eventually buy better keyboard; the rubberdome is just not as good as a mechanical :/ especially for cases like G19 that cost JUST as much as a mechanical.
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Try do simultaneous key presses. You can see a difference that way as well.
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Not really for all rubberdome keyboard, some of it were nicely built and the keystroke is quite smooth and can achieve up to 10KRO.
And based on somebody preference such as they like low profile key caps but most of the mechanical keyboard with quite a thick key caps.

I believe there was some good rubber dome keyboard but of cause not G19.


Added on December 19, 2010, 12:22 am
QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Dec 18 2010, 08:54 PM)
May be with the growing/migrating of Touch Screen trend from smartphone industry to PC/Notebook/Tablet industry, they will skip the mechanical kb path and directly go into virtual kb. It will be much more convenience,mobile and suitable to type or use on tablet. There are program such as swype and many more to improve typing on virtual touchscreen kb. hmm.gif
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There is still infinite of possibility in the future, maybe 1 day in future you only need to look at the monitor and think about the sentences then the computer will type and print for you, who knows.


Added on December 19, 2010, 12:28 am
QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 18 2010, 10:01 PM)
Very much so.

Not everyone likes mech keyboards no matter how awesome they are.
Some people just love the soft deep membrane feel (hey I know it sounds wrong but... please.. tongue.gif ).
That's the way it is.
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Ya maybe some of them look better, with all macro recording, bunch of multimedia key, volume adjusting knob.

G19 (should be replaced by G510 which is better and price so cheap)

G510 with 18 macro button at the left hand side maybe some people need it? (but not me)
They just prefer the good looking, backlit, LCD screen which I think less than 1% user using it.
Actually if i am not a mechanical keyboard user I can say the typing experience on G510 is not bad and nice.

Just we compare G510 with other mechanical keyboard in certain wise, so most of us here chosen Mechanical 1.


This post has been edited by jasmineivan: Dec 19 2010, 12:28 AM
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post Dec 19 2010, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Dec 18 2010, 08:54 PM)
May be with the growing/migrating of Touch Screen trend from smartphone industry to PC/Notebook/Tablet industry, they will skip the mechanical kb path and directly go into virtual kb. It will be much more convenience,mobile and suitable to type or use on tablet. There are program such as swype and many more to improve typing on virtual touchscreen kb. hmm.gif
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virtual keyboard won't actually replace mechanical keyboard, it's just will be an alternative solutions on what people might choose to use.

As for it will become "convenience, mobile and suitable to type or use on tablet. this varies in future and heavily depends on their designs and such.

As for me, i don't really like virtual keyboard actually, because it's a pain in the ass to learn, and what if they change the interface or replace another one. Sorry but i find those things won't last very long, and it won't be easily absorb by the public, because virtual stuff are easily replace by another thing in future, and stuff advance too rapidly.

For programs like swype and many others, it's still just a alternative solutions to type on your mobile, This doesn't actually let's you type faster and more enjoying, and more of a more "Unique Way" to show your friends how you type on your mobile, which is doesn't improves users experience on typing one, as it require you to relearn all typing mephod. and another problems comes as you're limited to only the phone OS as if the programs only support android. then GG.

well i do believe that we're actually heading off topic between this as well as membrane keyboard.

For me, Membrane Keyboard has it's uniqueness and several advantage over mechanical keyboard, and vice versa between each other( i'm not saying mechanical keyboard are bad either), it's just that each keyboard are it's own advantage and disadvantages.

But in here, i do have to say that users have choices to choose between membrane keyboard as well as mechanical keyboard. either you go for blingbling future badass looking. or you go for classic looking, durability, and comfort typing experience(comfort varies from person to person.
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Dec 19 2010, 01:34 AM)
virtual keyboard won't actually replace mechanical keyboard, it's just will be an alternative solutions on what people might choose to use.

As for it will become "convenience, mobile and suitable to type or use on tablet. this varies in future and heavily depends on their designs and such.

As for me, i don't really like virtual keyboard actually, because it's a pain in the ass to learn, and what if they change the interface or replace another one. Sorry but i find those things won't last very long, and it won't be easily absorb by the public, because virtual stuff are easily replace by another thing in future, and stuff advance too rapidly.

For programs like swype and many others, it's still just a alternative solutions to type on your mobile, This doesn't actually let's you type faster and more enjoying, and more of a more "Unique Way" to show your friends how you type on your mobile, which is doesn't improves users experience on typing one, as it require you to relearn all typing mephod. and another problems comes as you're limited to only the phone OS as if the programs only support android. then GG.

well i do believe that we're actually heading off topic between this as well as membrane keyboard.

For me, Membrane Keyboard has it's uniqueness and several advantage over mechanical keyboard, and vice versa between each other( i'm not saying mechanical keyboard are bad either), it's just that each keyboard are it's own advantage and disadvantages.

But in here, i do have to say that users have choices to choose between membrane keyboard as well as mechanical keyboard. either you go for blingbling future badass looking. or you go for classic looking, durability, and comfort typing experience(comfort varies from person to person.
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lol not really la, what you talking about is current technology. So virtual keyboard in future might be superb.

About decision between mechanical and membrane keyboard, now people may choosing among them. But in future no need to choose, mechanical keyboard maybe combine with membrane keyboard function, you can see lycosa but mechanical version in future also.
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post Dec 19 2010, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Dec 19 2010, 01:45 PM)
LOL this thread somehow does go off-topic like what you said. tongue.gif However, dont just limited the competition to mechanical and membrane. Virtual kb may become the trend in less than 2 years time. wink.gif

No doubt that virtual QWERTY on smartphone are still inferior to any of the PC keyboard but there are no better option for smartphone out there. So program such as SWYPE were invented to improved it(on smartphone only as i also dont see the need/convenience to swype on full size virtual kb).

However, virtual kb does win traditional hardware keyboard in the customization ability part. It will be easier to customize to users own like such as the size of keys(even individually also possible thumbup.gif ) or location of keys(may be not to important/suitable). Lastly, setting macro or backlit can be easily done on virtual kb. nod.gif

Though, i does agree that there is still lots of full size virtual QWERTY need to improve to provide better typing experience and there may be better technology being invented in future to fully discard the need of kb(hardware and virtual).
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Ya, good keyboard is very important for good typing experience. But imagine no longer need to type in future? done by psychic??
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:43 PM

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Wait til a keyboard with the functionality of G19 while using doubleshot keyboard with changeable cherry switches..

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What's the possibility to buy blank keycaps for my ducky? Price and where?
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post Dec 19 2010, 06:48 PM

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If mechanical keyboard receive more attention from the public, I do believe that in the future we will have more feature-enhanced and cheaper mechanical keyboards.

Seeing how well the response are for the BW and 7G, we might just see that in a few years.

I guess the public needs people like us before they will hop on to the bandwagon, and by then mechanical keyboards would be much cheaper, but still a certain price away from rubber domes. That's wouldn't necessarily be better for us cause our investment opportunities with the keyboards we have now wouldn't be that great doh.gif
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QUOTE(xcen @ Dec 19 2010, 06:48 PM)
If mechanical keyboard receive more attention from the public, I do believe that in the future we will have more feature-enhanced and cheaper mechanical keyboards.

Seeing how well the response are for the BW and 7G, we might just see that in a few years.

I guess the public needs people like us before they will hop on to the bandwagon, and by then mechanical keyboards would be much cheaper, but still a certain price away from rubber domes. That's wouldn't necessarily be better for us cause our investment opportunities with the keyboards we have now wouldn't be that great doh.gif
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BW and 7G hype is due to the word "gamer" I have tried many "gamer" grade input device and seriously it's only a term claimed by the marketing team.. not the engineer

You still dont hear hype over ducky 1087 or chery mx-red anywhere yet..

Razer produce quite many lousy product seriously, although their packaging is clearly a winner in every aspect..
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Dec 19 2010, 06:43 PM)
Wait til a keyboard with the functionality of G19 while using doubleshot keyboard with changeable cherry switches..

xD

What's the possibility to buy blank keycaps for my ducky? Price and where?
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ya possible, but most probably you need find people to do bulk order and import it. The price also superb.

Follow up with moogle, I think in GH still voting for the type of key caps for next bulk order.
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Dec 19 2010, 06:43 PM)
Wait til a keyboard with the functionality of G19 while using doubleshot keyboard with changeable cherry switches..

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What's the possibility to buy blank keycaps for my ducky? Price and where?
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I asked this same question over at GH whether any mechanical keyboard has a lcd that can work with ventrilo. I don't think there is.

But considering Razer just recently hopped on the mechanical bandwagon; maybe Logitech may do the same in the future or be left behind. When they do; their kbs could be the only ones with a lcd, so that might be very interesting indeed.


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QUOTE(xcen @ Dec 19 2010, 06:48 PM)
If mechanical keyboard receive more attention from the public, I do believe that in the future we will have more feature-enhanced and cheaper mechanical keyboards.

Seeing how well the response are for the BW and 7G, we might just see that in a few years.

I guess the public needs people like us before they will hop on to the bandwagon, and by then mechanical keyboards would be much cheaper, but still a certain price away from rubber domes. That's wouldn't necessarily be better for us cause our investment opportunities with the keyboards we have now wouldn't be that great doh.gif
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Increase of popularity definitely reduce the price, it will be good news if all Malaysian going to be flooded with mechanical keyboard.

Even though mechanical keyboard still got famous and popular in Malaysia but now Razer Blackwindow should be the 1st well known mech keyboard in Malaysia and more and more gamer and user changing to it also. So hope in future some other company like filco ducky and even cherry bringing in other.
But don't it will happen soon because Malaysia always judging the book from the cover 1, no matter how mechanical keyboard advance, customer always can see the keyboard casing first like G510 and G19.


Added on December 19, 2010, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 19 2010, 07:06 PM)
I asked this same question over at GH whether any mechanical keyboard has a lcd that can work with ventrilo. I don't think there is.

But considering Razer just recently hopped on the mechanical bandwagon; maybe Logitech may do the same in the future or be left behind. When they do; their kbs could be the only ones with a lcd, so that might be very interesting indeed.
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Even though they really release, try imagine the price.

G19 with mechanical switches, most probably the price will be something like topre.

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Mechanical Keyboard is like an Automatic Watch

A: why does your watch cost RM10k while mine cost RM1k while it still looks the same and get the job done
B: Because it's an automatic mechanical watch

A: Why is this keyboard so special about, it has no LCD, Bling LED, Macros, Anti-Ghosting(Razer hype?), or what ever yet cost much more than my super "insert your gaming keyboard here"
B: Because it's a Mechanical Keyboard
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we all should thanks razer for their effort in pushing mechanical mainstream, its very hard to make something become a trend
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QUOTE(jay @ Dec 19 2010, 09:30 PM)
we all should thanks razer for their effort in pushing mechanical mainstream, its very hard to make something become a trend
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The price is always an issue for mechanical keyboards.
I have a dream of making Malaysia's own gaming keyboard, just no $, resource, technology, etc to start with. lol
Just like PLU in China, their 87 is way cheaper than the ones from filco, less than RM 200 if convert from RMB to MYR.
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post Dec 19 2010, 11:47 PM

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Well mechanical keyboards for sure will not be as cheap as rubber domes.

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