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post Jan 12 2011, 08:13 PM

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I'm waiting to grab one if reasonable price. Whether red or brown just depends which one arrive the first. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 12 2011, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Jan 12 2011, 08:04 PM)
I agree that SS key caps are much thinner than the leopold 1 but don't really agree that thickness indicate the quality. They are thin but quality still quite okay. (just not so bad)
I said that because I did compared the SS and Noppoo key caps, never test for the thickness but we can even can see something very clearly with eye. The cutting edge of SS keycaps are much smoother than the Noppoo 1.

how much thefull version MX red will be?? Any estimate pricing?
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atleast a certain thickness will indicates they are not trying to cut cost or reduce anything that have effects over the keyboard's overall quality, that's how i sees a product. At least they are very picky on quality even as little as keycap's thickness, So.. in my view, their pickiness is good tongue.gif

from what i heard, the full version of Leopold Keyboard will be a little slightly expensive than the Leopold Tenkeyless, which will still be under RM400, but i still can't confirm the price.
But as he said The keyboard will only slightly expensive than the tenkeyless version because the full size keyboard are being manufactured at China which will have less labour cost compared to Taiwan.

And Keycaps molding will have a minor different between Tenkeyless(made in Taiwan) and Full size(made in China).
The differences would be the Top side of the keycap.
If you noticed, Tenkeyless Leopold Keyboard, the top side of the Keycap have a minor Cut Mark, because of the molding technique that the Taiwan manufacturer use.
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But for the fullsize Leopold Keyboard, The keycap will be made by a different molding technique, the cut mark will be on the under edge of keycaps, so you won't be able to notice it easily as the tenkeyless version.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Jan 12 2011, 08:55 PM
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post Jan 12 2011, 09:52 PM

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Actually me working in a plastic injection industry, I talked to my supplier about those material, they are actually super cheap material.. It's remarkable that the price they fetch, offcourse the niche market haha

What is the possibility of doing 1 mold and sell it off xD, but 1 mold cost usually 5 to 6 figure, with the injection costing as much as that too.

PBT, ABS, POM are all very cheap material, the more expensive one is PC(depend of type of it too, usually we use it for clear material, hehe your Myvi headlamp lens is injection in my factory)
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post Jan 12 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 12 2011, 09:52 PM)
Actually me working in a plastic injection industry, I talked to my supplier about those material, they are actually super cheap material.. It's remarkable that the price they fetch, offcourse the niche market haha

What is the possibility of doing 1 mold and sell it off xD, but 1 mold cost usually 5 to 6 figure, with the injection costing as much as that too.

PBT, ABS, POM are all very cheap material, the more expensive one is PC(depend of type of it too, usually we use it for clear material, hehe your Myvi headlamp lens is injection in my factory)
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So the mold itself is the reason that makes the caps more expensive... sad.gif
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post Jan 13 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 12 2011, 08:52 PM)
atleast a certain thickness will indicates they are not trying to cut cost or reduce anything that have effects over the keyboard's overall quality, that's how i sees a product. At least they are very picky on quality even as little as keycap's thickness, So.. in my view, their pickiness is good  tongue.gif

from what i heard, the full version of Leopold Keyboard will be a little slightly expensive than the Leopold Tenkeyless, which will still be under RM400, but i still can't confirm the price.
But as he said The keyboard will only slightly expensive than the tenkeyless version because the full size keyboard are being manufactured at China which will have less labour cost compared to Taiwan.

And Keycaps molding will have a minor different between Tenkeyless(made in Taiwan) and Full size(made in China).
The differences would be the Top side of the keycap.
If you noticed, Tenkeyless Leopold Keyboard, the top side of the Keycap have a minor Cut Mark, because of the molding technique that the Taiwan manufacturer use.
user posted image
But for the fullsize Leopold Keyboard, The keycap will be made by a different molding technique, the cut mark will be on the under edge of keycaps, so you won't be able to notice it easily as the tenkeyless version.
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Then 10keyless is how much then?? Roughly how much different?
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post Jan 13 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Jan 13 2011, 12:36 AM)
Then 10keyless is how much then?? Roughly how much different?
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tenkeyless, if i remembered last time they did mention RM335, but i think would be at this price or slightly cheaper.

Thou i can't confirm, i personally hope tenkeyless would be around RM300~330, and full keyboard to be around RM340~380. i can only say it won't be above RM400.
But currently can't get the exact pricing as they still didn't announce the price tag for fullsize keyboard. Because the keyboard is still in production.

Today i've received a e-mail which they inform me the keyboard production are being successful. So it's a matter of time that i will receive a sample as well as receive more information as well as pricing information.
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post Jan 13 2011, 01:56 AM

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just a question, why are people getting the tenkeyless over the full keyboard?
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post Jan 13 2011, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 13 2011, 01:56 AM)
just a question, why are people getting the tenkeyless over the full keyboard?
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Portable + price factor?


Added on January 13, 2011, 9:26 am
QUOTE(lucidlts @ Jan 12 2011, 10:35 PM)
So the mold itself is the reason that makes the caps more expensive... sad.gif
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Actually the mold for keyboard key is consider to be tiny in the industry.. Must be able to do a 100+ cavities mold, meaning each injection 100+ keys will drop out

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post Jan 13 2011, 10:59 AM

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10 keyless


Pros:

1. space saver on your desk. More room for your mouse to be positioned closer to the center.

2. portability less weight to carry around if your a lanner


Cons:

1. If you need numpad keys your screwed. However keyboards like the Topre 87U have a virtual numpad; however that keyboard is expensive.


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post Jan 13 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 13 2011, 10:59 AM)
10 keyless
Pros:

1. space saver on your desk.  More room for your mouse to be positioned closer to the center.

2. portability less weight to carry around if your a lanner
Cons:

1. If you need numpad keys your screwed. However keyboards like the Topre 87U have a virtual numpad; however that keyboard is expensive.
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cause i was thinking that u still need the numpad for typing and gaming alike...
so was wondering about it...
of course i am considering the tenkeyless thus the question...
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post Jan 13 2011, 01:01 PM

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I'm sure if you can live with a laptop keyboard, tenkeyless means the same thing
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post Jan 13 2011, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 13 2011, 01:01 PM)
I'm sure if you can live with a laptop keyboard, tenkeyless means the same thing
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i cant lol...
for laptop i use external keyboard >.<
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post Jan 13 2011, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 13 2011, 01:28 AM)
tenkeyless, if i remembered last time they did mention RM335, but i think would be at this price or slightly cheaper.

Thou i can't confirm, i personally hope tenkeyless would be around RM300~330, and full keyboard to be around RM340~380. i can only say it won't be above RM400.
But currently can't get the exact pricing as they still didn't announce the price tag for fullsize keyboard. Because the keyboard is still in production.

Today i've received a e-mail which they inform me the keyboard production are being successful. So it's a matter of time that i will receive a sample as well as receive more information as well as pricing information.
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If less than RM400 then is nice. Do you think it bundled with any wrist rest??


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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 13 2011, 12:02 PM)
cause i was thinking that u still need the numpad for typing and gaming alike...
so was wondering about it...
of course i am considering the tenkeyless thus the question...
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10keyless mainly for space saving purpose.

If you have more than enough space and use numpad quite frequently then no point to get 10keyless keyboard.

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post Jan 13 2011, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Jan 13 2011, 04:05 PM)
If less than RM400 then is nice. Do you think it bundled with any wrist rest??


Added on January 13, 2011, 4:08 pm

10keyless mainly for space saving purpose.

If you have more than enough space and use numpad quite frequently then no point to get 10keyless keyboard.
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hmmm true...
willget the full one then when its here
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post Jan 13 2011, 08:10 PM

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Consider ducky =) good keyboard
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post Jan 13 2011, 10:53 PM

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Yes, i have to agree that ducky has very good keyboard. i mean the Ducky DK-9008.

I've talk to Leopold, and they expressed some interest and will study the product and add it's feature in future keyboard.
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post Jan 14 2011, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 13 2011, 08:10 PM)
Consider ducky =) good keyboard
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I know ducky is good, but my first factor to consider is the availability. If Ducky come into Malaysia in 2012, I also will wait for it.
So now better do fundraising for Leopold first.


Added on January 14, 2011, 7:42 pm
QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 13 2011, 10:53 PM)
Yes, i have to agree that ducky has very good keyboard. i mean the Ducky DK-9008.

I've talk to Leopold, and they expressed some interest and will study the product and add it's feature in future keyboard.
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Oya, Leopold originally is which country registered company?? Wondering where their R&D department.

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post Jan 14 2011, 08:22 PM

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If online shipping + heavy tax possibility is an option to you, basically you can buy any of them here
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post Jan 14 2011, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Jan 14 2011, 07:41 PM)
I know ducky is good, but my first factor to consider is the availability. If Ducky come into Malaysia in 2012, I also will wait for it.
So now better do fundraising for Leopold first.


Added on January 14, 2011, 7:42 pm

Oya, Leopold originally is which country registered company?? Wondering where their R&D department.
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Korea
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post Jan 14 2011, 09:16 PM

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Cherry MY isn't as good as Cherry MX.

However some rare Cherry MY special edition have nice casings.

http://keyboardporn.com/others/g81-3430-hk...uminium-ripple/




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