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post Nov 25 2010, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 25 2010, 06:48 PM)
I've got a go at the BlackWidow Ultimate for a week now too (for testing only, decided not to keep).

The good:
- It's mech, it'll last long.
- MX blue switches, I know it is down to perspective and personal tastes, but I really like blue switches as I type more than I game on a PC these days. Feels, really really good. biggrin.gif
- Overall, the keyboard looks good. Nice backlighting, as you can adjust the brightness.
- Good gaming keyboard for RTS games mostly, as you won't naturally hold more than 2 keys at once.
- Macros? Macros are always a nice addition.
The bad:
- Like everyone has said, 2KRO. Phail, indeed.. phail. FPS gamers will hate this, if you're not hardcore and you only really press one key at a time... it's fine. But if you're a person who straffs diagonally while switching weapons back and forth, this is a fail.
- Even Razer says it is well optimised around the WASD area, I think it is still a turn off. You WILL need to readjust in order to compensate for the 2KRO issue.
- While I know Razer is all about the bling, the glossy exterior turns me off. Having to wipe off the dust every single morning is tedious, leaving the dust there will look like spiders live under the keyboard.
- Price... Nearly RM400 for the Ultimate and nearly RM300 for the Expert... I don't know, the Expert is an okay deal if you really just play RTS games. I think some people are selling the Expert for as low as RM280 now. But the Ultimate at RM400? Not worth it IMO, period.
All in all, I wouldn't call the BlackWidow a failure...
I mean, Razer could have really just upped their game on the keyboard. 4KRO would be nice, 6KRO better... I don't see the reason why they can't do this. RM400 for a 2KRO mech keyboard is a little bit of a turn off if you ask me.

Anyways with that said, returning this keyboard... ain't keeping it.
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Nice review. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
Mostly i would play DotA or Sc2 all the time. Maybe RPG which is coming soon Diablo 3. So this could be my choice.
Im not a hardcore FPS, so if im playing COD, i would not keep on switch weapon all the times biggrin.gif
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post Nov 25 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 25 2010, 08:50 PM)
Based on what i know, the 2kro actually affected anything.
They say BW is 2KRO only because the the keyboard fail ZXC.
Even though a hardcord fps player won't stroke ZXC together.

Price wise, RM400 for a mechanical keyboard with backlit. For me it is super cheap.
Compare to 7G, the price is just really really reasonable.

Anyway myself will still stick on my 7G because of the epic wrist rest. And my personal preference is MX black or RED is best which totally  no click.
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If you get Bw ultimate now, u can get a price less than rm350. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 25 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(jay @ Nov 25 2010, 11:18 PM)
cant the BW use a USB to PS/2 converter to achieve NKRO?
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Not sure about it. btw, where to find those converters?
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post Nov 26 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 26 2010, 12:26 AM)
I won't let the macro function if i get either bw expert or ultimate.
No point to buy it anymore. If fore go the macros why not just go for 6Gv2, das, deck, ducky filco or whatever. More switches can be choose.
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Yup, it is meaningless to get bw ultimate if macros are off and no backlighting. Perhaps you need full NKRO for certain games.
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post Nov 26 2010, 11:58 AM

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Finally, we have N-key rollover. The BlackWidow doesn't have full n-key rollover, but is optimized for gaming. As such, it is sufficient for most gamers.

NKRO Test:
ASW - YES
ASX - YES
GHY - YES
ASDF - YES
JKL - YES
ERF - YES

In fact, almost all realistic combinations have 3 key rollover, and a few have four. The QWEASD, WERSDF, and YUIHJK cluster all have 6 key rollover.

Some combinations without 3-key:

CXI - NO
XVI - NO

And so forth... as you can see they aren't commonly used combinations.



Source
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:11975
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post Dec 1 2010, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 1 2010, 08:19 AM)
f***. Thats so many keyboards.

Can i have 1 for christmas biggrin.gif
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Yeah can i hv 0ne too? biggrin.gif Just 6gv2 enuff ad
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post Dec 1 2010, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 1 2010, 08:25 AM)
So your getting a bw ultimate  hmm.gif  ?
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Yup, had pre-ordered one long ago.
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post Dec 5 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Dec 5 2010, 04:46 PM)
My cousin ordered his bw ultimate for 199$gd
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I think you meant AUS dollar. Its quite expensive after converted in RM.

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post Dec 7 2010, 10:48 PM

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Hey, can those keycaps replace for BW keycaps?
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Dec 8 2010, 12:28 PM)
ya i know. i will sell it pretty soon. don worry.
they are all pretty new.
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I want buy the one u like the most. Wakakaka
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post Dec 8 2010, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(lucidlts @ Dec 8 2010, 06:29 PM)
Looking forward for POM keycaps from them. tongue.gif

btw,saw tons of BW Ultimateï¼ ModernoPC today. finally,  LOL
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modernoPC sapu too many BW ultimate. lol
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post Dec 9 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Dec 9 2010, 08:36 PM)
Don simply decide, tomorrow is the Digital lifestyle expo already. Go there and try out. If you prefer the MX Blue why not just get a BW, much more cheaper also.
Anyway i will stick to my 7G which is no click compared to the clicky MX BLue. Somemore I hate the tiny palm rest of BW which more like decoration more than palm rest.
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BW palm rest is like nothing as i used one.


Added on December 9, 2010, 9:49 pm
QUOTE(xcen @ Dec 9 2010, 08:59 PM)
http://www.pikom.org.my/cms/General.asp?wh...=22664&CatID=39

I went to this website and I didn't see any segment where it is dedicated to computer peipherals. How or when can we try the keyboards?
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You can get test the keyboard in the Games section which is Razer Booth on the day.

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post Dec 10 2010, 01:31 AM

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Hi guys, i did post it at Razer Thread as well. So i decide to post it here too. I had figured out some of my BW keys are different in term of clicky sound. My 3rd row keys seem like different from others. Is it normal for blue switch? But it still working, just the sound
My video below show it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H64PPyG53I
sorry for bad video quality

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post Dec 10 2010, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Dec 10 2010, 04:43 AM)
wtf. ZXC doesn't even sound like blue switches, doesn't even click.
mind to take off your ZXC key cap, and see's what's underneath it? take pics if you could thanks.
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As you see at the picture. It doesn't seem any problem. Just only you press it, problem occurred. My spacebar not as loud as i though

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post Dec 10 2010, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Dec 10 2010, 06:51 AM)
it feels like brown when u press those ZXC, according to the video.
the key doesn't even sound click at all.
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As jasmineivan said, maybe the spring problem.
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post Dec 10 2010, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Dec 10 2010, 08:36 AM)
When you click it, feel different? can feel the click, if not then definitely send for RMA.
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As i still can type ZZXXCCVVBB, there is a click, but not clicky as DFGJ.
Just you will felt that ZXC non tactile.
I had sent this situation to BL and Razer. So waiting for their response.

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post Dec 11 2010, 12:42 PM

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Malaysia BOLEH!
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post Dec 14 2010, 09:28 PM

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A new mechanical keyboard from Zowie Gear
http://www.zowiegear.com/products?page=sho...2&category_id=7

Which is using MX brown!!!
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post Dec 18 2010, 12:28 AM

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aw, almost all the brown switch sold out.
Interested in DK-9008 but only left blank key. sweat.gif
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post Dec 30 2010, 04:32 PM

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What a great news for Malaysian to get Cherry MX red, keep it on biggrin.gif

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