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post Sep 24 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 24 2017, 05:37 PM)
delayed almost 2 years as of now? taking average purhase price of 1.5 mil x 10% pa interest x 700 days x 700 unit = rm172 mil of LAD owed to buyers? profit money from empire subang sales oso dont think can save lo
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Believe lad is not unlimited.

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post Sep 24 2017, 09:02 PM

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you better pray for the developer can complete the project rather than lad...
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post Sep 24 2017, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 24 2017, 08:17 AM)
Looking too high up of oneself usually kantoi really fast.

1acre how many units in ER??? Fact is fact. A bit of hard work n humble attitude can save u some big bucks. I won't even bother to pay 4.1¢ for a project which destined to fail. I can't brain the decision.

And I onli know many agents calling up at one point asking to buy cos many leftover. How in the world need UT??? Must b some nenek moyang story to pursuance so n so to pay 🙊🙊🙊

Soli Sunday morning hand itchy do some typing.
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no wonder this "lort " fella is number 1 enemy with the meh boss lah...nearly forgot abt the Eresidence thing he bought and pushed so many people into dead end
he could belong to 1 group that succussfully sued the dev....they went up office demanding payment but kena threatened back with black yellow and blue power....hearsay from agentlah....
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post Sep 24 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 24 2017, 05:37 PM)
delayed almost 2 years as of now? taking average purhase price of 1.5 mil x 10% pa interest x 700 days x 700 unit = rm172 mil of LAD owed to buyers? profit money from empire subang sales oso dont think can save lo
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u must be an accountant or some sort of accounts guy.....always sharp wt figure and probability
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post Sep 25 2017, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Sep 25 2017, 12:36 AM)
u must be an accountant or some sort of accounts guy.....always sharp wt figure and probability
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boss, not in account line. in engineering instead. just rough calculation only. accuracy x really there kot. like comment above, it could be that theres capping to LAD to the contract. if there is, probably the capping has been breached by now and developer wont have further motivation to push for completion. and if there is no capping, the accumulation of the LAD for this and other sister projects will be piling up very quickly and quite a fair likelihood developer will choose to wind up and chow?

either way buyers will suffer. the developer may get away will some scratches and dents but will start a new sometimes later.
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post Sep 25 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 25 2017, 10:58 AM)
boss, not in account line. in engineering instead. just rough calculation only. accuracy x really there kot. like comment above, it could be that theres capping to LAD to the contract. if there is, probably the capping has been breached by now and developer wont have further motivation to push for completion. and if there is no capping, the accumulation of the LAD for this and other sister projects will be piling up very quickly and quite a fair likelihood developer will choose to wind up and chow?

either way buyers will suffer. the developer may get away will some scratches and dents but will start a new sometimes later.
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under standard spa, does not implied any limitations to LAD.
similarly if developer abscond jobs, does banks have limitations to interest charged?
no also mah.

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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 25 2017, 11:54 AM)
under standard spa, does not implied any limitations to LAD.
similarly if developer abscond jobs, does banks have limitations to interest charged?
no also mah.
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dont think got cap on LAD.....not stated in spa ....dont think is under any act also
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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 25 2017, 10:58 AM)
boss, not in account line. in engineering instead. just rough calculation only. accuracy x really there kot. like comment above, it could be that theres capping to LAD to the contract. if there is, probably the capping has been breached by now and developer wont have further motivation to push for completion. and if there is no capping, the accumulation of the LAD for this and other sister projects will be piling up very quickly and quite a fair likelihood developer will choose to wind up and chow?

either way buyers will suffer. the developer may get away will some scratches and dents but will start a new sometimes later.
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since u r in engineering....more or less has some knowledge in contruction may b.....
what is ur opinion on the way meh build eresidence?....make sense ke?
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post Sep 25 2017, 12:16 PM

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actually LAD you don't need to wait for project completed baru pay.

under the act, developer should pay when its passed the deadline.....rightfully.
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post Sep 25 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Sep 25 2017, 12:14 PM)
since u r in engineering....more or less has some knowledge in contruction may b.....
what is ur opinion on the way meh build eresidence?....make sense ke?
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Anything can make sense. But the residents there better pray the engineers have put several safety factors into their design and also pray that the contractors didn't cheat on materials.
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post Sep 25 2017, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 25 2017, 12:54 PM)
under standard spa, does not implied any limitations to LAD.
similarly if developer abscond jobs, does banks have limitations to interest charged?
no also mah.
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ya thats what i thought. cant recall spa got any capping on lad. so the question is to run or not to run? lol.

on the engieering safety, it all boils down to the quality of the engineering design, checking and approval that they obtain. if all are done proper, the design should stand even though the thin legged ramps are rather not conventional. and those scary slopes.

i wouldnt bet my money and safety on the design though. haha.

but i believe those genuine buyers must have done due diligence before putting their money. hopefully la.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 25 2017, 12:25 PM)
Anything can make sense. But the residents there better pray the engineers have put several safety factors into their design and also pray that the contractors didn't cheat on materials.
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when the contractors dont get paid , what materials, safety & workmanship can you expected?
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post Sep 25 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Giant @ Sep 25 2017, 01:50 PM)
when the contractors dont get paid , what materials, safety  & workmanship  can you expected?
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They can discount the specs. It's illegal. But in malai u know Wat r they gonna do la.

They can onli resign n wait for the outstanding payment. The waiting part is not gonna b like sweet candy thou.
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true true, design is one thing. execution is another totally different animal.
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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 25 2017, 01:40 PM)
ya thats what i thought. cant recall spa got any capping on lad. so the question is to run or not to run? lol.

on the engieering safety, it all boils down to the quality of the engineering design, checking and approval that they obtain. if all are done proper, the design should stand even though the thin legged ramps are rather not conventional. and those scary slopes.

i wouldnt bet my money and safety on the design though. haha.

but i believe those genuine buyers must have done due diligence before putting their money. hopefully la.
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Genuine onot I really dunno. But I know plenty of genius buyers. If most here dunno bout the SOP I doubt those genius buyers even do.

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saw listings of eresidences on propwall 1.3 mil -1.7 mil below market value some even advertised as selling below purchAse price. from photos looks gooding oso actually. too bad kena this issue
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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 25 2017, 10:58 AM)
boss, not in account line. in engineering instead. just rough calculation only. accuracy x really there kot. like comment above, it could be that theres capping to LAD to the contract. if there is, probably the capping has been breached by now and developer wont have further motivation to push for completion. and if there is no capping, the accumulation of the LAD for this and other sister projects will be piling up very quickly and quite a fair likelihood developer will choose to wind up and chow?

either way buyers will suffer. the developer may get away will some scratches and dents but will start a new sometimes later.
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put your feet on developer shoes, what would you do and what is the most rational (from business prospective) way to resolve this


lari and don't look back...haha
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post Sep 25 2017, 02:48 PM

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By looking at it, Empire needs at least RM10-15 million to jump-start the progress, and with 2 months smooth sailing of progress, bankers can be invited to inspect on site and agree on disbursing the balance fund to the Empire.

If Datuk Sean Ng Yee Teck, can't even fork out RM 10 million to save this project by this year, the chance to revive is close to ZERO, unless purchasers willing to pay additional payment (easily 15-20% extra from SNP ) to other developer to save them.


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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Sep 25 2017, 02:36 PM)
put your feet on developer shoes, what would you do and what is the most rational (from business prospective) way to resolve this
lari and don't look back...haha
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post Sep 25 2017, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Contestant @ Sep 25 2017, 04:30 PM)
So LAD is a double edged sword. If the developer is steady, the longer the delay, the better for the buyer but if the developer is already cash strapped, the LAD could be the cause of abandonment because it is no longer profitable to complete.
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What do you think if they keep drag the LAD until apply for extension for 6 month more?

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