reaper rush is typically 9/10/11 rax FIRST then gas THEN depot

yes i know. my thinking was along the lines of this

what's your estimation on the delay?

reapers are very dangerous for protoss...but having them removed isn't the answer. ppl just have to scout and it will be really a short game for the terran

ehh come to think of it ur kinda rite too..how come i didnt realize that..

anyway i play T sumtimes and 10 out of 10 match i did the depo first b4 rax

so all in all i dont think its much of a big deal after all

hurts those quaz mentioned the most........

the rest who build SD first - the change is no big deal.

These talks are being proposed for the next patch?

i think going depot first then rax is more economical.. i usually go 10 depot, 11 racks, 12 refinery and keep producing scvs.. when i produce my first reaper.. its a lil bit slower estimated 25 secs or more.. but my economy is so much better.

hence thats why i said, if reapers are gonna be turned useless, why bother having the unit at all? rofl

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Added on October 8, 2010, 12:15 pmblizz's "heads up" on what *MAY* happen on next patch

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 8 2010, 12:15 PM

Actually what Blizz is planning to do is almost like removing them already. It defeats the purpose / usefulness of reaper, which is to harass opponent's economy early game. I guess nobody will build a reaper from mid game onwards. Jumping up and down from cliffs at mid game or late game is rare.

its still useful, but as game progresses, countering reapers are easier with tougher units that deals more damage/ranged and the fact that it does not return as much benefits as early game would (50/50 min/gas and a long 45? second slot on your rax with tech lab, which a marauder would be typically more beneficial)

I just hope they add anti air unit for T1 zerg . terran got marrin . protos got stalker . what zerg got . queen? can queen move all the way to attack ??? .

150 mineral per unit ohhh.

Air units are t2 no? Go for muta

Unless u wanna micro and make a creep highway to the opponent base

i gonna miss mass reaper in 3v3 and 4v4...
its like the best trolling unit for me...
move in, 2shotting nexus/oc/hatch then /wave...

do note lower ranks toss are owning...
in those league u can jz 4gate the sht out of noobs and still win...
look at the diamond part, terran > toss for TvP...
showed u the drastic change from the 60% in the lower leagues...

as i said, u can 4 gate urself into diamond wit ease (or jz VR as nub terrans cant handle 1 VR lol)

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Added on October 8, 2010, 4:15 pmu clearly didnt watch GSL where terran open with early marauders and toss just fall and die being too far behind to do anything...
no toss in GSL top4 as well (godly tester got pwned by rainbow's terran)

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Added on October 8, 2010, 4:18 pmhmmm as i said 3sec at most...
depending on ur placement...

for me i usually go 10rax, 10 depot when i get terran from my random...
i prefer the early OC and marine heavy compo early on...
this would affect my build a lot...

i use reaper even in end game...
srz-ly reaper's damage vs building is insane and couple wit their mobility, u can jz pew pew ur way ahead...
i usuall get around 8-10 reapers then micro my way to toss's base sniping pylons slowly as i move to his nexus...
he could barely warp in units since i keep pylon sniping and if his army is out of position, his nexus is dead...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 8 2010, 04:18 PM

Reaper over-nerfed....So far no problem for reaper push already, isnt it?

Seriously.....stop nerfing Protoss =,=" ....just upgrade others.....

VR TOO NERFED. NEED BUFF

Marines too nerfed, need buff =/

i predict warpgate changes...
imho, nerf warpgate cost and let us warp in immortals <3

Immortal is too strong too be warp gate unit....

VR is so balanced.......look at the cost.....it is kind of fragile, as well as only usefull when charge up.....is easy to counter....ANYWAY...best way to win = show unique strat : ) .....Den opp sure blablabla alot....

VR is easy to counter if you know the way to counter : )

This post has been edited by xShinji: Oct 8 2010, 06:15 PM