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 Planned changes for better balance?, Might as well remove reaper from game

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evofantasy
post Oct 8 2010, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(xShinji @ Oct 8 2010, 06:13 PM)
Immortal is too strong too be warp gate unit....

VR is so balanced.......look at the cost.....it is kind of fragile, as well as only usefull when charge up.....is easy to counter....ANYWAY...best way to win = show unique strat : ) .....Den opp sure blablabla alot....

VR is easy to counter if you know the way to counter : )
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its nt a warpgate unit...
but something like a link with the warptech...
it was like that during beta btw...

VR is good when its charged...
still its 250/150 which is freaking costly...
i always like to self charge my VR with my pylon then micro em to the opponent's ramp shooting my own zeal to keep the charges up...
took me so long to get the hang of it but it is rewarding for the amount of attention and apm u put into it...

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post Oct 8 2010, 06:28 PM

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i gonna hope for the same thing again smile.gif

No need to nerf other race or units, just slightly improve zerg would be good enough wink.gif

futher nerf of reapers as well just remove them - -"
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post Oct 8 2010, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 8 2010, 06:20 PM)
its nt a warpgate unit...
but something like a link with the warptech...
it was like that during beta btw...

VR is good when its charged...
still its 250/150 which is freaking costly...
i always like to self charge my VR with my pylon then micro em to the opponent's ramp shooting my own zeal to keep the charges up...
took me so long to get the hang of it but it is rewarding for the amount of attention and apm u put into it...
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o wow...nice strat...might be able to do that later on biggrin.gif
but back to the topic,why wont they made the T building need to be near SD?

u see from toss,buildings need to be near pylon to be erected.from zerg,must be placed in creep area...
it's like limiting the build area.risk building proxies for better harass or not risking proxies,but only turtle at base... hmm.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(AndyNoobie @ Oct 8 2010, 06:28 PM)
i gonna hope for the same thing again smile.gif

No need to nerf other race or units, just slightly improve zerg would be good enough wink.gif

futher nerf of reapers as well just remove them - -"
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zerg is fine...
artosis said his ZvT is close to 90% and ZvP is 60%...
fruity won GSL as a zerg...
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post Oct 8 2010, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 8 2010, 07:03 PM)
zerg is fine...
artosis said his ZvT is close to 90% and ZvP is 60%...
fruity won GSL as a zerg...
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Hmm, but out of all we have to look at the majority players in the network...as most of us can see the globally Zerg players is far lesser than T and P in the higher ranks ladder.

Can't say much bout fruity / artosis / idra / dimaga / lalush and bla bla goes on, perhaps koreans and beyond pro or perhaps there's an unlucky T / P as opponent tongue.gif sweat.gif

Overall we cant look at one ultra uber zerg and ignore majority suffering zergies icon_question.gif blush.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(AndyNoobie @ Oct 8 2010, 07:49 PM)
Hmm, but out of all we have to look at the majority players in the network...as most of us can see the globally Zerg players is far lesser than T and P in the higher ranks ladder.

Can't say much bout fruity / artosis / idra / dimaga / lalush and bla bla goes on, perhaps koreans and beyond pro or perhaps there's an unlucky T / P as opponent  tongue.gif  sweat.gif

Overall we cant look at one ultra uber zerg and ignore majority suffering zergies  icon_question.gif  blush.gif
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well u can look at the uber zergs and see wut they are doing...
how often do u see baneling carpet bombs which work exceptionally well?
bringing queens wit ur army to tranfuse ur mutas?
infestor's fungal growth into infested terrans?
getting infestors as ur first t2 unit?

wut they did are so far from the usual zerg u see and those are wut needed to beat their opponents...
blizz's came roaches are rarely used while koreans uses roach a lot in their core army throughout the GSL (over hydras etc)

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post Oct 8 2010, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 8 2010, 11:49 AM)
ahhh i see you got promoted to gold league already, congratulations.

reapers are nice actually but weaker armor means require monitoring, for newbie like me - not so good to use. tongue.gif till now i also never build reaper.


Added on October 8, 2010, 11:50 am

protoss has chrono boost while zerg have queen larvae spawn. biggrin.gif
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chrono boost and larvae spawn are different, larvae spawn only useful in beginning of game, once u had few bases(or hatcheries) d, u dont need that skill d, unless you mass lings where 50 mineral utilize 1 larvae, if you go like hydra/more expensive unit, most likely the larvae spawn from the hatcheries themselves are enough(as long as you spend faster). But chrono can be useful from the beginning until the end of the game especially use on research.
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post Oct 8 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Oct 8 2010, 08:49 PM)
chrono boost and larvae spawn are different, larvae spawn only useful in beginning of game, once u had few bases(or hatcheries) d, u dont need that skill d, unless you mass lings where 50 mineral utilize 1 larvae, if you go like hydra/more expensive unit, most likely the larvae spawn from the hatcheries themselves are enough(as long as you spend faster). But chrono can be useful from the beginning until the end of the game especially use on research.
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nt really...
towards the end u wont have much stuff to chrono due to ur eco...
its mostly during the begining or when u r army trading...

not to mention its macro intensive to constantly chrono the same building every 20sec or so...
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post Oct 8 2010, 10:45 PM

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no mention of marauder? FFFUU
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 8 2010, 11:49 AM)

protoss has chrono boost while zerg have queen larvae spawn. biggrin.gif
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n dun forget terran has reactor
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:36 PM

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terran is going down... NOO!!!
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post Oct 9 2010, 12:18 AM

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If terran goes down, lets change to toss !!
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(hikashi @ Oct 8 2010, 10:45 PM)
no mention of marauder? FFFUU
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no need to mention wut is gonna be removed...
HEART OF THE SWAMP YO!
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 9 2010, 01:19 AM)
no need to mention wut is gonna be removed...
HEART OF THE SWAMP YO!
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swamp? lol
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 9 2010, 01:28 AM)
swamp? lol
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lol damn MTG...
swarm!!!!
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post Oct 9 2010, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 9 2010, 01:57 AM)
lol damn MTG...
swarm!!!!
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post Oct 9 2010, 03:01 AM

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I don't think any of those terran nerfs can effect terran in the game...

Nomatter how blizz tried to nerf terran... Its still the BEST and OP race =__=

Look, they only nerfed reapers... Not alot of players are using reapers nowadays in early game anyway (not team game)...

You still have imba marine, imba marauder, imba hellions, imba thors, imba banshees and imba battlecruiser =.="

yes terran is imba rofl
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post Oct 9 2010, 11:07 AM

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I really think after the 1.1 patch, it looks balance now..

Terran players don't use reaper much now.
The only thing we see y many ppl use terran is becoz WOL is about Terran.

So, basically new players will use Terran all the way as they already familiarize with Terran builds.
While Protoss, it's just damn easy to use.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 11:39 AM

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poor zerg..always left behind in technology but still win the broodwar.wonder why??.or maybe zerg doesn't have politics in their camp
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QUOTE(azmirhere @ Oct 9 2010, 11:39 AM)
poor zerg..always left behind in technology but still win the broodwar.wonder why??.or maybe zerg doesn't have politics in their camp
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Yeah just nerf the f***ing terran to oblivion... every person who thinks using terran and wins thinks they're good ... better think again.. f***ing OP terran

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