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post Sep 21 2010, 02:39 PM, updated 16y ago

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A couple of hours ago a Blizzard Bluepost was online publishing the patchnotes for the upcoming 1.1. patch. Only twenty minutes later the informations disappeared without a trace.

Nevertheless some people copied the patchnotes. Still they are not official. The “new” patchnotes contain several changes to the officially announced patchnotes that have been published a while ago.




Maps:
- Destructible Rocks have been added to the natural expansions of Desert Oasis, and the center has been narrowed.
- Various ladder maps have been added.


General:
- Ground Units of type Psionic now have vision in the air plane.


Protoss:
- Zealot build time increased from 33 to 38 seconds.
- Zealot warp-in cooldown increased from 23 to 28 seconds.
- Warp Prisms now unload their cargo instantly while in Phasing Mode.
- Chronoboost cooldown increased from 0 to 20 seconds.
- Dark Shrine build time decreased from 100 to 80.
- Dark Shrine cost decreased from 100 minerals 250 gas to 100 minerals 200 gas.
- Carrier cost increased from 350 minerals 250 gas to 400 minerals 250 gas.
- Carriers now spawn with four Interceptors prebuilt.


Terran:
- Reaper build time increased from 40 to 45 seconds.
- Bunker build time increased from 30 to 35 seconds.
- Siege Mode damage decreased from 50 to 35, +15 armored.
- Siege Mode damage upgrades per level changed from +5 to +3, +2 vs. armored.
- Battlecruiser damage vs. ground decreased from 10 to 8.
- Calldown MULE cooldown increased from 0 to 40 seconds.
- Planetary Fortress build time decreased from 50 to 40 seconds.
- 250 mm Cannons research time decreased from 110 to 80 seconds.
- 250 mm Cannons cost decreased from 150 minerals 150 gas to 100 minerals 100 gas.
- 250 mm Cannons may now be used on friendly and neutral structures and units.


Zerg:
- Ultralisk damage decreased from 15, +25 vs. armored to 15, +20 vs. armored.
- Ultralisk Ram attack removed.
- Nydus Worms can now be cancelled and refunded while building.
- Overlord base speed increased to from 0.469 to 0.938.
- Overlord upgraded speed increase from 1.875 to 2.344.
- Overlords can now use Excrete Creep while moving.
- Overlord base speed now decreases from 0.938 to 0.469 while Excrete Creep is active.
- Overlord upgraded speed now decreased from 2.344 to 1.875 while Excrete Creep is active.
- Spawn Larvae energy cost reduced to 20 from 25.


Bugfixes:
- Fixed a bug that caused cloaked units to cast shadows.
- Fixed a bug where Larva would sometimes accidently die by walking off cliffs.
- Fixed a bug where a Nuclear Strike target could be hid behind a Lair.
- Fixed a bug that allowed SCVs to construct halted buildings from within Bunkers.
- Fixed a netcode bug that enabled players to warp in Immortals from Warp Gates.
- Fixed a bug that caused Random players to not see their cursor during the loading screen.
- Fixed a bug where Changelings morphed slower while coming into range of enemy units than when dropped from an Overseer over enemy units.


General:
- Improved the functionality of voice chat.
- Manually queued waypoints can now be set to all 5 basic commands.
- Numerous performance and stability improvements.

http://www.mymym.com/en/news/19150.html
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:50 PM

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tfm chat lol:

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jcdish: lol chronoboost cooldown
Quazacolt: - Destructible Rocks have been added to the natural expansions of Desert Oasis, and the center has been narrowed. <--- hahahahaha
Quazacolt: @jcdish: they gave mule cooldown
Quazacolt: alls fair.
Sichiri: "- Ground Units of type Psionic now have vision in the air plane" WHY U DO THIS BLIZZARD
Quazacolt: @Sichiri: wwwwwwwww
Tetradact: @Sichiri: what?
jcdish: LOL omg overloads can now move faster
Quazacolt: @Sichiri: its BUFF derp
jcdish: omgomgomg
Quazacolt: queens now can see shit better
Quazacolt: @jcdish: double lord speed wwwwwwwww
Quazacolt: damn zherk scouting
Quazacolt: well lotsa zherk buff
Quazacolt: randoming would be less b****y now
Quazacolt: and ill probably QQ less
Tetradact: so uh
Quazacolt: - Overlords can now use Excrete Creep while moving. <--- HAHAHAHA
Tetradact: where is Terran/Protoss QQ
Quazacolt: - Spawn Larvae energy cost reduced to 20 from 25. wow
Quazacolt: - Warp Prisms now unload their cargo instantly while in Phasing Mode. rofl
Sichiri: @Quazacolt: means templars can storm over cliffs with Obs
Quazacolt: - Dark Shrine cost decreased from 100 minerals 250 gas to 100 minerals 200 gas. HAHAHA
Quazacolt: @Sichiri: no, it means you can storm WITHOUT Obs
Quazacolt: you can ALREADY storm with obs
jcdish: i imagine people will be drawing huge penises with creep now
Tetradact: - Spawn Larvae energy cost reduced to 20 from 25. wow
Quazacolt: - Carrier cost increased from 350 minerals 250 gas to 400 minerals 250 gas. <--- implying people care bout carriers anyways wwww
Tetradact: 6 pool just got very very deadly
* shrike has left the cafe.
Quazacolt: - Carriers now spawn with four Interceptors prebuilt. <--- i thought they ALREADY did? lol
Quazacolt: @Tetradact: no, cuz queens start with 25 energy
Quazacolt: nothing changes
Quazacolt: they just got more energy to tumor/transfuse
Tetradact: @Quazacolt: 6 pool is still deadly anyway
Tetradact: what with zealot build time increase
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:54 PM

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WTF CHRONOBOOST COOL DOWN
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE
Sichiri: @Quazacolt: - Calldown MULE cooldown increased from 0 to 40 seconds. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Kuzuryu: lol
Sichiri: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tetradact: no more spam mule in yellow minerals
Quazacolt: @Sichiri: wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Quazacolt: i lold HARD
Quazacolt: @Tetradact: not really la. just block entrance
Quazacolt: and like my vista lasik, L2Sentry
Kuzuryu: so no more terran's OP i guess
Sichiri: @Quazacolt: I CAN HEAR THE CRY OF A MILLION TERRAN PLAYERS NOW
Sichiri: THOSE TEARS, THEY TASTE SO GOOD
Tetradact: @Sichiri: DELICIOUS TERRAN TEARS
Quazacolt: - 250 mm Cannons may now be used on friendly and neutral structures and units. <--- LOL?! ENCOURAGING FRIENDLY FIRE?
Tetradact: 20 second cooldown for chronoboost??
Tetradact: why the f***??
Tetradact: you can only chronoboost 4 times per Nexus
Tetradact: so why cooldown
Tetradact: WHY GOD DAMMIT
jcdish: so you can't chrono 4 warpgates at once!
Quazacolt: @Tetradact: so people dont stockpile that shit
Quazacolt: and chrono void rays
Quazacolt: what, you love VR rush? wwwww
Quazacolt: @jcdish: warp gates? pft. STARGATES LOL
Quazacolt: doesnt stop me from having multiple nexuses
Quazacolt: and chronoring
Quazacolt: tongue.gif
Tetradact: multiple nexus
Tetradact: 400 min per
Sichiri: oh God Im so glad I play Zerg now
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:55 PM

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- Calldown MULE cooldown increased from 0 to 40 seconds.
I can hear the cries of a thousand Terran players.
Their tears taste so good.
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:57 PM

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Its about time for Terran and Protoss Nerf...
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:57 PM

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its kinda unfair zerg can stockpile larvae, toss cant stockpile chrono...
the overload buffs are waaaaay overboard though LOL...
imagine 7 larvae -> 6 hydras 1 overlord spawning creep on em...
perma speed boost!!!
heck they can stockpile up to 30 larvae and make 28perma speed boost hydras with 2overlords LOL

time for DT rushes <3

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post Sep 21 2010, 02:58 PM

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Big changes for BO and stuff smile.gif Opening NA to SEA players would be a good time. Use SEA to test BOs, and NA to play ladders smile.gif Or vice versa, whichever is preferred smile.gif
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 21 2010, 02:55 PM)
- Calldown MULE cooldown increased from 0 to 40 seconds.
I can hear the cries of a thousand Terran players.
Their tears taste so good.
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Their tears so sweet. Suffer lazy macro-ers...
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Sep 21 2010, 02:58 PM)
Big changes for BO and stuff smile.gif Opening NA to SEA players would be a good time. Use SEA to test BOs, and NA to play ladders smile.gif Or vice versa, whichever is preferred smile.gif
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my 3gate builds are messed up since i cant stockpile chrono =(
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post Sep 21 2010, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 02:57 PM)
its kinda unfair zerg can stockpile larvae, toss cant stockpile chrono...
the overload buffs are waaaaay overboard though LOL...
imagine 7 larvae -> 6 hydras 1 overlord spawning creep on em...
perma speed boost!!!

time for DT rushes <3
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Accuse me? Zerg must still wait for cooldown to stockpile larva. Unless you arguing that spawn larva has no cooldown.
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post Sep 21 2010, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 03:00 PM)
Accuse me? Zerg must still wait for cooldown to stockpile larva. Unless you arguing that spawn larva has no cooldown.
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hmmm u do know that u can have xxx amount of larvae in ur hatch...
i stockpile my larvaes for mutaling builds (1 time 10+ mutas with 30 lings poping out)?

not to mention zerg can use the minimap spawn larvae technique while toss cant do so with chrono...

the whole "zerg macro is hard" is kinda untrue LOL...
macroing with zerg is kinda ez with all the tools available...
a offrace zerg player like me can produce more units and eco than mainrace zerg players on ladder doh.gif

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post Sep 21 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 03:02 PM)
hmmm u do know that u can have xxx amount of larvae in ur hatch...
i stockpile my larvaes for mutaling builds (1 time 10+ mutas with 30 lings poping out)?

not to mention zerg can use the minimap spawn larvae technique while toss cant do so with chrono...

the whole "zerg macro is hard" is kinda untrue LOL...
macroing with zerg is kinda ez with all the tools available...
a offrace zerg player like me can produce more units and eco than mainrace zerg players on ladder  doh.gif
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Erm... Protoss can use minimap to CB...

Why not you all stockpile warpgates then? Remember 1 Zealot > 4 Zerglings so we need THAT much larva...
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post Sep 21 2010, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 02:57 PM)
its kinda unfair zerg can stockpile larvae, toss cant stockpile chrono...
the overload buffs are waaaaay overboard though LOL...
imagine 7 larvae -> 6 hydras 1 overlord spawning creep on em...
perma speed boost!!!
heck they can stockpile up to 30 larvae and make 28perma speed boost hydras with 2overlords LOL

time for DT rushes <3
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So who is going to give you enough resources to build 28 hydras at the same time?

Problem is getting enough resources to build 28 hydras, not the speed of building units.

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post Sep 21 2010, 03:06 PM

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just dont whine and accept the fact of the changes... if u r pro, u still can pwn all those "previous" whiner in no time tongue.gif
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Saw this couple days ago, but I still think stimmed marauders is more imba than tanks
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post Sep 21 2010, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 03:05 PM)
Erm... Protoss can use minimap to CB...

Why not you all stockpile warpgates then? Remember 1 Zealot > 4 Zerglings so we need THAT much larva...
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maybe thats why ur gold.
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QUOTE(Nandeska @ Sep 21 2010, 03:06 PM)
just dont whine and accept the fact of the changes... if u r pro, u still can pwn all those "previous" whiner in no time tongue.gif
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Amend... Haha... I play all races so i know this is a little balance... But i do not agree with the overload speed thing... I do agree this will help bring back the zerg map control in SCBW but maybe it is a little over the top...

I feel zerg needs a little armor damage units and protoss needs more light armored units since marauders are not getting nerf...

Added on September 21, 2010, 3:11 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 03:08 PM)
maybe thats why ur gold.
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Dude i read all your post and showing off is just as childish as your post.

You do not understand my post then please do not comment. Thank You.

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post Sep 21 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 03:08 PM)
Amend... Haha... I play all races so i know this is a little balance... But i do not agree with the overload speed thing... I do agree this will help bring back the zerg map control in SCBW but maybe it is a little over the top...

I feel zerg needs a little armor damage units and protoss needs more light armored units since marauders are not getting nerf...

Added on September 21, 2010, 3:11 pm

Dude i read all your post and showing off is just as childish as your post.

You do not understand my post then please do not comment. Thank You.
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umad?
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post Sep 21 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 03:05 PM)
Erm... Protoss can use minimap to CB...

Why not you all stockpile warpgates then? Remember 1 Zealot > 4 Zerglings so we need THAT much larva...
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minimap to chrono random buildings is not a good chrono use LOL...

QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 21 2010, 03:06 PM)
So who is going to give you enough resources to build 28 hydras at the same time?

Problem is getting enough resources to build 28 hydras, not the speed of building units.
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good eco and stockpiling larvae for tech structures to finish...
if i can do so with my mutaling builds on ladder, i dun see why hydras are not the same...

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and no we can only stock pile 4 chrono which is 4 gate builds (i stockpile 3 as i use 3 gates)...
that's the most we can do...
and we dun have the minimap trick/ smartcasting to help...

same as when 200/200 zerg would stockpile tonnes of larvae and after battle replenish easily...
toss used to be able to come close with storing chrono for the 7-10 gates warpin -> chrono -> warp ins but now its limited by ur nexus count...
u can see lots of toss's builds with the line "store chrono charges"...

if u ask me, 5sec CD for mules and chrono is much better...
since u cant spam it but it wont affect ur builds...
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chrono boost with 20 sec cd...T.T sad. And i tot the current carrier come with 4 interceptors?
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Sep 21 2010, 03:07 PM)
Saw this couple days ago, but I still think stimmed marauders is more imba than tanks
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in all seriousness, i can at least whack marauders. tanks? lol, havent touch them also die ady.

if ur a heavy roach player though, i can understand as rauders really destroy roaches its not even funny lol. or if you keep facing snipe droppers sleep.gif
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QUOTE(MintDarker @ Sep 21 2010, 03:14 PM)
chrono boost with 20 sec cd...T.T sad. And i tot the current carrier come with 4 interceptors?
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ya but srzly who make carriers?
they are totally weak lol...

i rather drop 2 stargate and make speedVRs

Added on September 21, 2010, 3:16 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 03:15 PM)
in all seriousness, i can at least whack marauders. tanks? lol, havent touch them also die ady.

if ur a heavy roach player though, i can understand as rauders really destroy roaches its not even funny lol. or if you keep facing snipe droppers sleep.gif
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GSL 2010, countless nexus have been dropped by stimmed marauders drop sweat.gif

Added on September 21, 2010, 3:17 pmbtw for any1 that dunno, there's a trick where u waypoint ur queen to move -> spawn larvae -> move -> spawn larvae constantly...
who says zerg is hard to macro really need to read up on all the various tricks...

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 03:13 PM)
umad?
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Haha... I find it hilarious that i know what your trying to do...
You provoke me->Challenge Me

What a childish behavior... I bet next you will say im scare... Haha... Sorry...

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And the funny thing is they actually increase the cost for carrier.... 4 battle cruiser with yamato gun vs 4 carries, carriers will fall like nothing, and battle cruiser can be repaired. uhh..

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- Ground Units of type Psionic now have vision in the air plane.
is that mean high templar can view high ground like colosus do?

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post Sep 21 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 03:13 PM)
minimap to chrono random buildings is not a good chrono use LOL...
good eco and stockpiling larvae for tech structures to finish...
if i can do so with my mutaling builds on ladder, i dun see why hydras are not the same...

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and no we can only stock pile 4 chrono which is 4 gate builds (i stockpile 3 as i use 3 gates)...
that's the most we can do...
and we dun have the minimap trick/ smartcasting to help...

same as when 200/200 zerg would stockpile tonnes of larvae and after battle replenish easily...
toss used to be able to come close with storing chrono for the 7-10 gates warpin -> chrono -> warp ins but now its limited by ur nexus count...
u can see lots of toss's builds with the line "store chrono charges"...

if u ask me, 5sec CD for mules and chrono is much better...
since u cant spam it but it wont affect ur builds...
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So your opponent allows you to stockpile 2500 Mineral and 2500 gas ? Or you think you can stockpile 2500 Mineral and 2500 gas after every each battle?
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This thread is for reading the changelog, and I feel the heat here already. Zerg OP, Terran OP, Protoss OP....it'll never end =\
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Siege tank nerf is going to radically change the Terran mech build.
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 21 2010, 03:21 PM)
So your opponent allows you to stockpile 2500 Mineral and 2500 gas ? Or you think you can stockpile 2500 Mineral and 2500 gas after every each battle?
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during lategame its really ez especially when u have map control...
if u are wondering watch all high lvl zergs and u can see them doing this especially dimaga (to me the best western zerg out there)...
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 21 2010, 03:21 PM)
So your opponent allows you to stockpile 2500 Mineral and 2500 gas ? Or you think you can stockpile 2500 Mineral and 2500 gas after every each battle?
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You're able to do that if you're 200/200 maxed. And a good Zerg will have a lot of expansion by the time u hit 200
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QUOTE(Grif @ Sep 21 2010, 03:22 PM)
Siege tank nerf is going to radically change the Terran mech build.
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i think it'll change TvT to be more banshee marine based builds now...
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QUOTE(Grif @ Sep 21 2010, 03:22 PM)
Siege tank nerf is going to radically change the Terran mech build.
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The mule nerf is going to radically change the ENTIRE Terran play.
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Guys this arguing is useless... The changes have not been confirm... Blizzard took 6 months to balance WC3 so anything can be change. It is just a game relax... Let just wait till tomorrow.

No point arguing here because in the end you all will still play the game... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Sep 21 2010, 03:24 PM)
You're able to do that if you're 200/200 maxed. And a good Zerg will have a lot of expansion by the time u hit 200
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or u can stockpile with superb scouting...
the pro zergs now shifting towards heavy drone builds and stockpiling for tech switch nowadays...

i tested it out when i get zerg as a random and its a really good build but depends on ur scouting (and knowing ur timings well)...
with overlord's speed boost, its much easier as u can react accordingly...

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 03:27 PM)
Guys this arguing is useless... The changes have not been confirm... Blizzard took 6 months to balance WC3 so anything can be change. It is just a game relax... Let just wait till tomorrow.

No point arguing here because in the end you all will still play the game... tongue.gif
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its more to a discussion over argument about the changes...
especially hw will it change our builds etc...

the changes to chrono totally nulled all my 3gate timing push builds lol...

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yea..the change for chrono boost is huge, i can't chrono boost my warpgate research and 1st stalker at the same time already.
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QUOTE(Ahlok @ Sep 21 2010, 03:32 PM)
yes!! i hate reapers sad.gif

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u r not alone LOL...
5rax reaper, it scares me so much that i make 2 queens LOL

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QUOTE(MintDarker @ Sep 21 2010, 03:33 PM)
yea..the change for chrono boost is huge, i can't chrono boost my warpgate research and 1st stalker at the same time already.
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of all the 3 macro race unique chances, this 1 affects build orders the most...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 03:23 PM)
during lategame its really ez especially when u have map control...
if u are wondering watch all high lvl zergs and u can see them doing this especially dimaga (to me the best western zerg out there)...
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So how many % of the league games in Battlenet fit your scenario of:-

a.) The game doesn't finish within 10 minutes.
b.) Allows you to expand freely until you're able to stockpile 2500 gas and 2500 mineral each battle.
c.) You don't use any minerals and gas while you're stockpiling for the 2500 gas and 2500 mineral.
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 21 2010, 03:06 PM)
So who is going to give you enough resources to build 28 hydras at the same time?

Problem is getting enough resources to build 28 hydras, not the speed of building units.
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You're able to do that if you're 200/200 maxed. And a good Zerg will have a lot of expansion by the time u hit 200
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If you can get stockpile 2500 gas basically you win the game already LOL
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Zerg with intel is very good to play, since it is a reactive race to play.. I am not sure whether zerg with be accused of being imba or not

player: u better aplogise to me for play <-insert race here->.

I never expect chrono cooldown to be change and it will greatly affect protoss i afaik...

Terran with marauder drops.. that might be the last time you are able to click on ur hatch, nexus or command center(but that can lift). Heard this somewhere and it is so damn true...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 03:15 PM)
ya but srzly who make carriers?
they are totally weak lol...

i rather drop 2 stargate and make speedVRs

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GSL 2010, countless nexus have been dropped by stimmed marauders drop  sweat.gif

Added on September 21, 2010, 3:17 pmbtw for any1 that dunno, there's a trick where u waypoint ur queen to move -> spawn larvae -> move -> spawn larvae constantly...
who says zerg is hard to macro really need to read up on all the various tricks...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 03:42 PM)
If you can get stockpile 2500 gas basically you win the game already LOL
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OOoooo another thing... Zerg lose hatchary=no more production... LOL...
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Haha... I find it hilarious that i know what your trying to do...
You provoke me->Challenge Me

What a childish behavior... I bet next you will say im scare... Haha... Sorry...

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 21 2010, 03:45 PM)
Tht's not a lot of gold end game, maybe only enough for a couple of broodlord, which will also easily died to viking
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Correction its is gas not gold... LOL... Gas is harder to stockpile...
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QUOTE(MintDarker @ Sep 21 2010, 03:20 PM)
And the funny thing is they actually increase the cost for carrier.... 4 battle cruiser with yamato gun vs 4 carries, carriers will fall like nothing, and battle cruiser can be repaired. uhh..
is that mean high templar can view high ground like colosus do?
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QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Sep 21 2010, 03:21 PM)
This thread is for reading the changelog, and I feel the heat here already. Zerg OP, Terran OP, Protoss OP....it'll never end =\
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i thought terran/toss gets nerf to oblivion and zerg enjoice? wwwwwwwwwwww

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 21 2010, 03:36 PM)
So how many % of the league games in Battlenet fit your scenario of:-

a.) The game doesn't finish within 10 minutes.
b.) Allows you to expand freely until you're able to stockpile 2500 gas and 2500 mineral each battle.
c.) You don't use any minerals and gas while you're stockpiling for the 2500 gas and 2500 mineral.
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 21 2010, 03:41 PM)
A good Terran will also never let that happen especially with their strong MMM early to mid game.
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srzly, do terrans still go MMM vs zerg hmm.gif
i thot MMM-based builds are extinct when 5rax reapers/ mech are so much better...


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Sigh....no point arguing with you =\ since u're so mindstuck on that smile.gif
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^ this actually...
u have diamond players (as well as others) telling u this, high lvl replays (dimaga especially, go have a look as i idolize his zerg builds) to support this and yet notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 03:45 PM)
yeah i know LOL. tester got STC sniped wat. and lost mainly cuz of shittastic econ (tester is god in micro, but macro, not so much) having to rebuild main nexus and what not.
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tester's macro is kinda good actually from his games (especially game ro32 game1)...
i am ok wit marauder's damage as long as i am able to keep my scouting up for drops etc (and better building placement)...
but i am damn annoyed wit the perma slow as i cant micro and forced to atk move LOL

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QUOTE(MintDarker @ Sep 21 2010, 03:33 PM)
yea..the change for chrono boost is huge, i can't chrono boost my warpgate research and 1st stalker at the same time already.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 03:34 PM)
u r not alone LOL...
5rax reaper, it scares me so much that i make 2 queens LOL

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of all the 3 macro race unique chances, this 1 affects build orders the most...
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personally, id say terran macro gets affected most. stockpiling mules on gold expan or new unsaturated expan = insane income rofl

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 03:53 PM)
thank god for bunker and reaper nerf. else it'd be shitastic to play against cheesing terrans ROFL

Added on September 21, 2010, 3:54 pm

personally, id say terran macro gets affected most. stockpiling mules on gold expan or new unsaturated expan = insane income rofl
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Here are my comments.

Maps:
- Destructible Rocks have been added to the natural expansions of Desert Oasis, and the center has been narrowed.
- Various ladder maps have been added.


General:
- Ground Units of type Psionic now have vision in the air plane. (Eh what now? Really you wanna do this?)

Protoss:
- Zealot build time increased from 33 to 38 seconds. (Fine but open more to zergling rushes)
- Zealot warp-in cooldown increased from 23 to 28 seconds. (Same as above)
- Warp Prisms now unload their cargo instantly while in Phasing Mode. (Cool idea quite good buff)
- Chronoboost cooldown increased from 0 to 20 seconds. (Undecided)
- Dark Shrine build time decreased from 100 to 80. (Faster DT to punish people without detection)
- Dark Shrine cost decreased from 100 minerals 250 gas to 100 minerals 200 gas. (Same as above)
- Carrier cost increased from 350 minerals 250 gas to 400 minerals 250 gas. (Not sure the point why)
- Carriers now spawn with four Interceptors prebuilt. (Maybe comes with 8 interceptors now with the price increase)


Terran:
- Reaper build time increased from 40 to 45 seconds. (for the Zergs)
- Bunker build time increased from 30 to 35 seconds. (For the Zergs)
- Siege Mode damage decreased from 50 to 35, +15 armored. (On the fence with this because might as well don't change it)
- Siege Mode damage upgrades per level changed from +5 to +3, +2 vs. armored. (Same above)
- Battlecruiser damage vs. ground decreased from 10 to 8. (Totally needed)
- Calldown MULE cooldown increased from 0 to 40 seconds. (Undecided but agree)
- Planetary Fortress build time decreased from 50 to 40 seconds. (Nothing big)
- 250 mm Cannons research time decreased from 110 to 80 seconds. (Nothing big)
- 250 mm Cannons cost decreased from 150 minerals 150 gas to 100 minerals 100 gas.(Nothing big)
- 250 mm Cannons may now be used on friendly and neutral structures and units.(Friendly Fire?)


Zerg:
- Ultralisk damage decreased from 15, +25 vs. armored to 15, +20 vs. armored. (Againts since only ultralisj is the only armor damage unit for zerg)
- Ultralisk Ram attack removed. (Indifferent)
- Nydus Worms can now be cancelled and refunded while building. (Needed)
- Overlord base speed increased to from 0.469 to 0.938. (Seriously?)
- Overlord upgraded speed increase from 1.875 to 2.344. (No Seriously?)
- Overlords can now use Excrete Creep while moving. (Good addition)
- Overlord base speed now decreases from 0.938 to 0.469 while Excrete Creep is active. (Wait is this a joke?)
- Overlord upgraded speed now decreased from 2.344 to 1.875 while Excrete Creep is active. (It is right?)
- Spawn Larvae energy cost reduced to 20 from 25. (Great for expending creep)

Bugfixes:
- Fixed a bug that caused cloaked units to cast shadows. (Notice this long time ago)
- Fixed a bug where Larva would sometimes accidently die by walking off cliffs. (Who build a hatchary around the ledge?)
- Fixed a bug where a Nuclear Strike target could be hid behind a Lair. (I didnt notice this)
- Fixed a bug that allowed SCVs to construct halted buildings from within Bunkers. (Please fix this)
- Fixed a netcode bug that enabled players to warp in Immortals from Warp Gates. (Permaban these users)
- Fixed a bug that caused Random players to not see their cursor during the loading screen. (Indifferent)
- Fixed a bug where Changelings morphed slower while coming into range of enemy units than when dropped from an Overseer over enemy units. (Indifferent)


General:
- Improved the functionality of voice chat. (Please do)
- Manually queued waypoints can now be set to all 5 basic commands.
- Numerous performance and stability improvements.

From my view here is the summary.

Protoss has got the worst nerf of all races. This means that they are promoting more stealth attacking with the reduce price for DT and the warp prism instant unload function. They will suffer more from zergling rushes since they take longer to produce zealots.

Terran i feel i a unnecessary nerf... Tanks are doing good but what is the point when Marauder are rolling over every land armor units. There wont be any for tanks to kill.

Zergs buff are aiming for a better creep extending method. The ultralisk buff is minor but still damaging because armor units are so going to own zerg (Marauders im looking at you). I do not like the overlord speed increase and hope that it is really a joke. I rather have reduce upgrade time from hive then this.

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Sigh....no point arguing with you =\ since u're so mindstuck on that smile.gif
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Zerg with intel is very good to play, since it is a reactive race to play.. I am not sure whether zerg with be accused of being imba or not

player: u better aplogise to me for play <-insert race here->.

I never expect chrono cooldown to be change and it will greatly affect protoss i afaik...

Terran with marauder drops.. that might be the last time you are able to click on ur hatch, nexus or command center(but that can lift). Heard this somewhere and it is so damn true...
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try playing insane AI terran WITHOUT CHEESE (well, vs 7 FFA lol). jesus balls their marauder.

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btw the voice chat seemed to be pretty soft even on max volume...
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btw the voice chat seemed to be pretty soft even on max volume...
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sometimes it just doesnt work. why else im using ventrilo? ROFL
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so who actually got their larva suicide off cliff before? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 21 2010, 04:26 PM)
so who actually got their larva suicide off cliff before? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 21 2010, 04:26 PM)
so who actually got their larva suicide off cliff before? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 21 2010, 04:26 PM)
so who actually got their larva suicide off cliff before? laugh.gif
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They should make a life of a larva diary about this.

Day 1: Just came out of the hatchary. I was lable Larva A.

Day 2: The queen tells me im going to a Mutalisk 1 day.

Day 3: Larva B: Larva A die jumping off the cliff. His was practicing how to fly before he evolve into a Mutalisk. That idiot.

LOL

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 04:32 PM)
They should make a life of a larva diary about this.

Day 1: Just came out of the hatchary. I was lable Larva A.

Day 2: The queen tells me im going to a Mutalisk 1 day.

Day 3: Larva B: Larva A die jumping off the cliff. His was practicing how to fly before he evolve into a Mutalisk. That idiot.

LOL
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 04:26 PM)
<- no vent server and dun wanna use my wow guild's one
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the one im using was waaaaaay back during my raiding days guild. we still sorta keep in touch lol. molten core/BWL (HWL was before that) days wwwww

then arenas came out lol.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 04:35 PM)
the one im using was waaaaaay back during my raiding days guild. we still sorta keep in touch lol. molten core/BWL (HWL was before that) days wwwww

then arenas came out lol.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 04:37 PM)
dun wanna bother em raiding since i've gone casual -> quit wow lol
and one of my partner having skype issues sleep.gif"
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its called channels, and i am the admin of the server too wwwwwwwwwww
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 04:45 PM)
So sleepy... I think be skipping SC2 today... My brain cant handle too much stuff already... LOL... Go watch top gear tonight...
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going yumcha wit frens lol

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 04:45 PM)
its called channels, and i am the admin of the server too wwwwwwwwwww
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well i kinda quit wow so nt really nice to use their vent for sc2 unless i sc2 wit em...
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going yumcha wit frens lol
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 04:49 PM)
Dun wan la.. Later gain weight LOL... I dun wan people to be more scare of me already. My size now i look like a pro wrestler d (Minus some muscle tongue.gif)
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going yumcha wit frens lol
well i kinda quit wow so nt really nice to use their vent for sc2 unless i sc2 wit em...
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in b4 ultralisk
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Karry is Brutalisk, mind you smile.gif

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hmm just tried purposely built a hatchery next to cliff. the larva just randomly dies, doesn't really jump off cliff.
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chrono boost cooldown and MULE cooldown will be so annoying
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Karry is Brutalisk, mind you smile.gif

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Edit: THOR IS HERE!!! LOL

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- Carriers now spawn with four Interceptors prebuilt.

Err don't they already spawn with 4?

Besides I have a feeling this is fake.
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Mule is way too strong i think, and implementing the 40 seconds cool down does not make it weak, it need 50 energy to call down a mule(yes/no?), just do it frequently, like zerg, they cant create larvae few times on a single hatchery.

Comparing mule and queen's create larvae, i think mule got more benefits, mule can mine mineral, scout area, fast repair unit in battle, they are like cheap advanced SCV that can be called down anytime anywhere, the nerf try to prevent any amount.

As for protoss' chrono, i think its pretty strong too, u can speed production, speed research(which i think no other race can do research as fast as protoss with crono)

darkplacid, i do not agree with you about the overlord mobility, i think with the overlord mobility increase we can see more and more overlord being used, they no longer stuck in base. Zerg might no longer need to scout with drone, with the double starting overlord speed, you can scout with overlord, and chances of getting it killed way much lower.

I think a queen/stalker/marine no longer able to kill an overlord who trying to run for its life. With the double speed, overlord can be spread across the map for more vision, nydus can make use of the vision, surprise attack/far expansion. Overlords also can create diversion, imaging you see 10 overlords flying into your base, with their increased starting speed, they can be used straight away.

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- Carriers now spawn with four Interceptors prebuilt.

Err don't they already spawn with 4?

Besides I have a feeling this is fake.
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hmm if im not mistaken it means that

carriers will have 4 interceptors in queue

the current carriers have instantly 4 interceptors biggrin.gif

i do not know how this would make a difference thou haha
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No more one marine bully overlord :S
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demm..
Overlord speed is faster now! yuhuuu...
really benefit zergs for early scout..
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one of the reason, maybe they see there are very few zerg players on the server..
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You all got me wrong... I just feel the speed is too fast... There is that concept but overlord abuse can be used early to deny expansion early game...

I am i zerg player also and i think this is a little over... Amagine starting by playing overlord in your opponent natural expansion leaking creep...

This is for balance not to buff zerg... Maybe increasing it only a little... not just give it a free upgrade...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 06:57 PM)
You all got me wrong... I just feel the speed is too fast... There is that concept but overlord abuse can be used early to deny expansion early game...

I am i zerg player also and i think this is a little over... Amagine starting by playing overlord in your opponent natural expansion leaking creep...

This is for balance not to buff zerg... Maybe increasing it only a little... not just give it a free upgrade...
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but if u wanna compare with brood war, now, OL can't be a detector..
now must waste gas to do it.. sigh..
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 21 2010, 06:57 PM)
You all got me wrong... I just feel the speed is too fast... There is that concept but overlord abuse can be used early to deny expansion early game...

I am i zerg player also and i think this is a little over... Amagine starting by playing overlord in your opponent natural expansion leaking creep...

This is for balance not to buff zerg... Maybe increasing it only a little... not just give it a free upgrade...
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by the time u can put creep in your enemy' base, you already got a Lair, not hatchery, and if your enemy still dont have something to shoot them, then they dont deserve to expand.
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there are quite a handful out there which says that these are fake, as some of the tweaks make the game imba, but yea...we'll see...it's just ard the corner anyway...=)
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Haiyo. Why do they have to include a cool down for chrono boost. I usually stock up my chrono boost for zealot rush and now, between 3 zealots there will be 1 minute gap in between that's chronoless.
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QUOTE(incx @ Sep 21 2010, 08:59 PM)
Haiyo. Why do they have to include a cool down for chrono boost. I usually stock up my chrono boost for zealot rush and now, between 3 zealots there will be 1 minute gap in between that's chronoless.
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patch 1.1.0 goes live at US NA

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty patch 1.1.0 is now live! This patch features adjustments to protoss, terran, and zerg balance, notable StarCraft II Editor improvements, and several bug fixes. Be sure to check out the full patch notes below to learn all about the latest changes.



General:

• The Standard (US) and Standard for Lefties (US) hotkey configurations are now available in all regions.

• A new game clock has been added. Players can now instantly see how long they’ve been in their current mission or match. This feature can be turned on or off in the Gameplay Options menu.

• A new Quick Save option is now available for the single-player campaign. Players can now quickly save their mission progress by pressing Ctrl + Q.

• A new System Panel has been added. Players can now view their local time and FPS while in game by mousing over the Menu (F10) button in the upper-left hand corner of the game screen. Laptop users can also view Wi-Fi signal strength and battery levels.

• Sight granted by death reveal no longer lifts Fog of War. Units revealed in this manner are not targetable.

• (Mac only) Moved StarCraft II data files and settings from the Documents folder into the Application Support folder.

• Support for NVIDIA 3D Vision has been added. To experience StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty in 3D on your desktop or notebook, you will need 3D Vision. For more information, visit www.nvidia.com/Starcraft3D



Balance Changes:

• PROTOSS

• Zealot

• Build time increased from 33 to 38.

• Warp Gate cooldown increased from 23 to 28.



• TERRAN

• Battlecruiser

• Ground damage decreased from 10 to 8.

• Bunker

• Build time increased from 30 to 35.

• Reaper

• Build time increased from 40 to 45.

• Siege Tank

• Siege mode damage changed from 50 to 35 (+15 armored).

• Upgrade damage changed from +5 to +3 (+2 armored).

• ZERG

• Ultralisk

• Ram ability removed. Ultralisk will now use normal attack against buildings.

• Damage decreased from 15 (+25 armored) to 15 (+20 armored).

• Maps

• Desert Oasis

• Destructible Rocks have been added to make natural expansions easier to protect.

• Center Xel'Naga Tower area has been narrowed.



StarCraft II Editor Improvements:

• Added new requirement types: Odd, Divide, Mod, Multiply.

• Added a chance field to effect data.

• Added support for the Slider dialog control type.

• Added a trigger to deal damage from a unit.

• Added a trigger event response to provide the amount a player or unit property changes.

• Added a trigger event when an effect executes.

• New Trigger Editor functions:

• Save Data Conversation State Value (Action).

• Load Data Conversation State Value (Action).

• Players On Team (returns Player Group associated with teams in game lobby).

• Unit Owner Changes (Event).

• Old Unit Owner (returns player ID in response to Unit Owner Changes).

• New Unit Owner (returns player ID in response to Unit Owner Changes).

• XP, Level, and Bounty unit properties can now be modified by triggers.

• Banks now save/restore XP, learned abilities, and items.

• Message Window now includes a time stamp for each message.

• An actor event is now dispatched when a missile cannot hit its target.

• When loading documents with Battle.net-only dependencies, you will now be prompted to log in and download the dependency data, rather than failing to load.

• Game variants now automatically use the default melee variants for new maps, without requiring manual generation. This will not take effect for maps created prior to this patch.

• The Custom game variant is no longer automatically included when other non-default variants are defined.

• Increased the maximum recharge vital rate for heal effects.



Bug Fixes:

• Battle.net

• Chat windows no longer vanish when exiting a multiplayer map or campaign mission.

• Fixed an issue where players would still receive toasts when their status was set to busy.

• Custom Games

• Default race in a game lobby is now properly set to Random.

• Players can now configure the lobby for 1v5 matches.

• The search functionality for map searches has been improved.

• Lobby hosts will now receive a toast when an invited player declines an invitation.

• Custom game lobbies will now remember the game mode chosen under a category.

• Fixed an issue where changing the category to "Custom" would default the teams to 5v3.

• Fixed an issue where custom maps could not be reported from the map preview screen.

• Gameplay

• General

• If a unit loads into a transport, missiles targeting it will no longer target similar units in the area.

• Structures damaged during construction will no longer count towards structures lost.

• Fixed an issue where builders waiting for an area to clear could block units trying to leave the area.

• Fixed an issue with inventory drop range checks.

• Fixed an issue that, in certain cases, allowed a command to be issued that did not appear on the command card.

• Interface

• Queue tooltips now display information about what is in progress.

• Fixed an issue where the back button would not always return players to the score screen properly.

• Terran

• Marines trained at multiple Barracks will now prefer a Barracks with a Reactor over one with a Tech Lab or no attachment.

• SCVs will now load into the closest Command Center if multiple are within range.

• Zerg

• Creep now recedes properly when an AI-controlled Hatchery, Lair, or Hive is destroyed.

• StarCraft II Editor

• The Player Leaves Game event now fires when a player leaves or they are defeated/victorious.

• Loading screen progress bar option now works when using Melee loading screen type.

• Test Document now works properly on maps with Battle.net-only dependencies.

• Publishing a new file using Major revision will now properly set the document version to 1.0.

• Publish dialog now properly remembers the Show Real Name setting from previous publish.

• File preview panel now displays author's real name if that option was set during publishing.

• The Import module will now allow importing an override Assets.txt file.

• Undoing a terrain object modification will now also undo associated terrain changes.

• Editor will display document text from another locale if no text for the active locale exists.

• Copying points with custom models will display the model properly on the pasted point.

• It is no longer possible to have multiple default variants in the Game Variants dialog.

• Removed icon support for attribute and variant definitions, as Battle.net does not display these.

• Fixed issues with invalid map bounds when creating 32x32 maps.

• Fixed issues with poor performance in the Terrain Editor when scroll bars are visible.

• Fixed issues with drag-and-drop in Trigger Editor when tracking is not enabled.

• Fixed an issue that would cause a crash if multiple unit forms had too many abilities.

• Fixed an issue with temporary publish names in the Publish dialog still verifying the original name.

• Fixed an issue with the Unit Manipulates Item trigger.

• Fixed excessive delays on some systems when saving files using the Smaller Files option, and also when publishing Locked files.

• Fixed preview panel display in Terrain Editor palettes.

• Fixed performance issues in Terrain Editor when modifying terrain with many road tiles on the map.

• Fixed initial display of variables in the Trigger Debugging Window.

• Fixed generated script for built-in attribute values, which caused them to not be accessed properly.

• Fixed action list when modifying a Custom Script action without sub-views enabled.

• Fixed loading map dependency data.

• Fixed an issue where loading complex bank files would cause the client to disconnect from Battle.net.

• Technical Issues

• Fixed an issue where unplugging headphones could cause the game to freeze.

• Fixed an issue where XP systems running with Unicode characters enabled could prevent a player from starting a multiplayer game.
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http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/...1-0-patch-notes

source is above to confirm this =p

overall decent changes though i will be wondering hw to handle fast pool builds as a toss...
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increase cooldown of protoss and nerf tank damage already pleased all the zerg players =D, hopefully my winning rate will increase against protoss.
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still, zvp is probably the most balance race match out there even before this patch...but, we'll see how things goes now...haha
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Sep 22 2010, 06:42 AM)
still, zvp is probably the most balance race match out there even before this patch...but, we'll see how things goes now...haha
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yup...
PvZ is highly balanced where both side have equal chances if they are level on both micro and macro...
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Official patch notes are out :

http://us.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Looks pretty decent so far. Way much better without the chrono cooldown time.
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Seems a lot of ppl having problem with the patch... Better not launch SC2 to patch it first now
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It's not even live in our region, we have to wait until 23rd of September 5am, till it goes live.
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this looks like a typical IAH style. always patch later than US or EU.

think back hellgate london...the patch is so much later! >_<
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wahaha seems like many different compare with the fake 1
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QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Sep 22 2010, 09:23 AM)
wahaha seems like many different compare with the fake 1
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silence, Terran.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 09:31 AM)
silence, Terran.
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APOLOGIZE FOR PLAYING TERRAN

wwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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I would rather get the patch later. They're having problems with the patch 1st, so Blizz will know how to resolve this when our patch goes live here in SEA smile.gif

P.S: Very much different from the fake release note indeed
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 09:33 AM)
APOLOGIZE FOR PLAYING TERRAN

wwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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but good for me also, because i also hate being rush by reaper. lost few matches cause of reaper + bunker rush zz..
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QUOTE(flow @ Sep 22 2010, 09:12 AM)
this looks like a typical IAH style. always patch later than US or EU.

think back hellgate london...the patch is so much later! >_<
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stop blaming everything on IAH, The patch includes access to NA for SEA player, so of course they have to patch US first!
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QUOTE(flow @ Sep 22 2010, 09:12 AM)
this looks like a typical IAH style. always patch later than US or EU.

think back hellgate london...the patch is so much later! >_<
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if blizz is behind it, IAH cannot delay it as they did for Hellgate london

Added on September 22, 2010, 9:44 am
QUOTE(ArticFir3 @ Sep 22 2010, 09:35 AM)
I would rather get the patch later. They're having problems with the patch 1st, so Blizz will know how to resolve this when our patch goes live here in SEA smile.gif

P.S: Very much different from the fake release note indeed
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what "problems" are you referring to? lol.

look back at WoW or war3, patch days woes arent are getting better and better comparing back then until this very day. in fact, so far nothing is happening for US patch yet from the brief moment/games ive played.

and with that said, id much rather get patches ASAP especially when they are major ones implementing MANY fixes/balance changes

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T_T no overload buff haha, still not a bad thing
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 09:38 AM)
stop blaming everything on IAH, The patch includes access to NA for SEA player, so of course they have to patch US first!
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fine, and thats why a reputation is so important to a company. screwed it up once and it will take years for me to change the perception of it.
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THAT WAS SO SWEET TO WATCH!

But then....the response :
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627980105#2
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 09:33 AM)
APOLOGIZE FOR PLAYING TERRAN

wwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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i'm gonna miss 5 rax reaper builds when i am a terran but i wont miss it when i am a zerg LOL...
5 rax reaper in 3s n 4s is just WIN!
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they just made zergling the most dangerous strat =.=

even with chronoboost, the zealot is gonna take too long to come out.

man toss is fcked
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 22 2010, 10:01 AM)
they just made zergling the most dangerous strat =.=

even with chronoboost, the zealot is gonna take too long to come out.

man toss is fcked
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yes, 3 seconds longer build time will make the zealot totally useless. *sarcasm*
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 10:03 AM)
yes, 3 seconds longer build time will make the zealot totally useless. *sarcasm*
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lima.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 09:56 AM)


THAT WAS SO SWEET TO WATCH!

But then....the response :
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627980105#2
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LOL. Ultra awesomeness..

but not for long....
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 10:03 AM)
lima.
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5 game time, 3 secs(aprox) real time
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* A new game clock has been added. Players can now instantly see how long they've been in their current mission or match. This feature can be turned on or off in the Gameplay Options menu.
* A new Quick Save option is now available for the single-player campaign. Players can now quickly save their mission progress by pressing Ctrl + Q.
* A new System Panel has been added. Players can now view their local time and FPS while in game by mousing over the Menu (F10) button in the upper-left hand corner of the game screen. Laptop users can also view Wi-Fi signal strength and battery levels.

good editions smile.gif
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i like the clock feature. Can know what is the right timing to push
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- Marines trained at multiple Barracks will now prefer a Barracks with a Reactor over one with a Tech Lab or no attachment.

Crap even easier for Terran to macro...
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 10:07 AM)
5 game time, 3 secs(aprox) real time
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sure isnt *that* fast lol.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 09:56 AM)


THAT WAS SO SWEET TO WATCH!

But then....the response :
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627980105#2
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That is just SICK to watch.. people are going to produce lots more Ultras now!
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 10:07 AM)
5 game time, 3 secs(aprox) real time
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=.= ..

currently, lings rush are already bad enuf, normally a 6 ling rush, most toss builds will have 1 zealot almost out.

now its gonna be a bit longer before ur zealots comes out.

u need to understand that 6 lings rush are normally done on a map with very little distance between bases.. =.=
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 22 2010, 10:51 AM)
=.= ..

currently, lings rush are already bad enuf, normally a 6 ling rush, most toss builds will have 1 zealot almost out.

now its gonna be a bit longer before ur zealots comes out.

u need to understand that 6 lings rush are normally done on a map with very little distance between bases.. =.=
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early scout, see 6/7 pool, get ur damn 10 gate out + chrono for the first 1-2 zealot + choke point funnel. can be done, just harder.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 10:57 AM)
early scout, see 6/7 pool, get ur damn 10 gate out + chrono for the first 1-2 zealot + choke point funnel. can be done, just harder.
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yeah smile.gif

but some maps, ramp huge. harder to funnel.. its crap. hahaha smile.gif
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 22 2010, 10:59 AM)
yeah smile.gif

but some maps, ramp huge. harder to funnel.. its crap. hahaha smile.gif
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probe it like tester then.
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From the US Forums

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 10:03 AM)
yes, 3 seconds longer build time will make the zealot totally useless. *sarcasm*
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play a toss and u will notice that a standard 13 pool would nt get a zealot faster than a 6pool (or at times just barely)...
now with the extra 5 sec (3-4sec on fastest) its a nightmare...
and the rush distance for 4p maps are shorter if u spawn next to each other...

i'll mostly go 10pylon 10gate but it'll hurt my ability to choke-wall my ramp better...
heck if i scouted a 6 pool (at times u jsut freaking miss it!) i'll jz forge wall my base like in my 2s LOL...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 22 2010, 11:06 AM)
play a toss and u will notice that a standard 13 pool would nt get a zealot faster than a 6pool (or at times just barely)...
now with the extra 5 sec (3-4sec on fastest) its a nightmare...
and the rush distance for 4p maps are shorter if u spawn next to each other...

i'll mostly go 10pylon 10gate but it'll hurt my ability to choke-wall my ramp better...
heck if i scouted a 6 pool (at times u jsut freaking miss it!) i'll jz forge wall my base like in my 2s LOL...
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you mean 12 gate or what? lol
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Sep 22 2010, 11:05 AM)
From the US Forums

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seems to have alot of bugsy in the 1.1.0 thingy..

or so it seems after browsing thru the Bug forum

wtf man?

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probably 1.1.1 will launch tmr haha
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 11:07 AM)
you mean 12 gate or what? lol
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lol i mean 13gate not 13pool...
standard toss build is 13gate, i do 12gate vs terran (or the 3 gate pushes build)...
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Sep 22 2010, 10:51 AM)
=.= ..

currently, lings rush are already bad enuf, normally a 6 ling rush, most toss builds will have 1 zealot almost out.

now its gonna be a bit longer before ur zealots comes out.

u need to understand that 6 lings rush are normally done on a map with very little distance between bases.. =.=
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if you want to talk about cheese, lets mention about your VR rush as well hmm? smile.gif
how about the forge FE cannon contain?

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 22 2010, 11:14 AM)
lol i mean 13gate not 13pool...
standard toss build is 13gate, i do 12gate vs terran (or the 3 gate pushes build)...
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if you want to talk about cheese, lets mention about your VR rush as well hmm? smile.gif
how about the forge FE cannon contain?
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VR too nerfed. needs buff

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arg every races got their cheese strat, i am afraid of baneling + fast ling rush, very deadly.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 11:27 AM)
if you want to talk about cheese, lets mention about your VR rush as well hmm? smile.gif
how about the forge FE cannon contain?
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how is VR a cheese sleep.gif"
u need 2 gas, gate -> core -> stargate and it cost 250/150...
not to mention the time needed for u to def ur base from lings LOL...
its the same as saying thorrush a cheese...
do note VR builds are not all in but rather harassment and if u are a bad zerg, u just die on the spot LOL...
pretty much the same as a speedling run-by (so is speedling a cheese now?)...

forge cannon contain would not be a good idea due to the risks involve (need to spawn close position)...
1 queen spreading creep + 1 spine crawler is all u need to break the 2 pylons...
a zerg can just go 1 base tech like 1base muta rush and jz roll u over...

@roti
i always make bunkers when i see high number of lings...
its indicator of a incoming baneling transition where he has committed to lings instead of drones...
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This is the confirmed balance. Some parts on the first page are faked.

Balance Changes:

• PROTOSS

• Zealot

• Build time increased from 33 to 38.
• Warp Gate cooldown increased from 23 to 28.


• TERRAN

• Battlecruiser

• Ground damage decreased from 10 to 8.

• Bunker

• Build time increased from 30 to 35.

• Reaper

• Build time increased from 40 to 45.

• Siege Tank

• Siege mode damage changed from 50 to 35 (+15 armored).
• Upgrade damage changed from +5 to +3 (+2 armored).

• ZERG

• Ultralisk

• Ram ability removed. Ultralisk will now use normal attack against buildings.
• Damage decreased from 15 (+25 armored) to 15 (+20 armored).


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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 22 2010, 11:41 AM)
how is VR a cheese sleep.gif"
u need 2 gas, gate -> core -> stargate and it cost 250/150...
not to mention the time needed for u to def ur base from lings LOL...
its the same as saying thorrush a cheese...
do note VR builds are not all in but rather harassment and if u are a bad zerg, u just die on the spot LOL...
pretty much the same as a speedling run-by (so is speedling a cheese now?)...

forge cannon contain would not be a good idea due to the risks involve (need to spawn close position)...
1 queen spreading creep + 1 spine crawler is all u need to break the 2 pylons...
a zerg can just go 1 base tech like 1base muta rush and jz roll u over...

@roti
i always make bunkers when i see high number of lings...
its indicator of a incoming baneling transition where he has committed to lings instead of drones...
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yeah, the winning point is get to know what ur opponent doing, normally like toss doing 1 rax, i will pump up my marine to avoid VR rush, or 3 rax, i will plant 3 bunker at my gate.
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QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Sep 22 2010, 11:48 AM)
yeah, the winning point is get to know what ur opponent doing, normally like toss doing 1 rax, i will pump up my marine to avoid VR rush, or 3 rax, i will plant 3 bunker at my gate.
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i think 3 is overkill O.o
i usually go 1-2 bunkers with a scv for standby repairs...
i spend lots of my resource on tonnes of marines and stim early on...

then again, 5rax reaper and u dun need to worry bout this thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 22 2010, 11:52 AM)
i think 3 is overkill O.o
i usually go 1-2 bunkers with a scv for standby repairs...
i spend lots of my resource on tonnes of marines and stim early on...

then again, 5rax reaper and u dun need to worry bout this  thumbup.gif
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nono, i don like to go 5 rax reaper against zerg, if zerg plant a sunker and go for mass roaches then i most probably will lose the game.
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OMG Terran's will still be easy to use now with the barracks patch...

Did they patch the bunker building thinggy?

Anybody can try it out?
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QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Sep 22 2010, 11:54 AM)
nono, i don like to go 5 rax reaper against zerg, if zerg plant a sunker and go for mass roaches then i most probably will lose the game.
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hmm reaper kills building super fast...
at times jz go in, 1-2 bomb down the spine crawler...
get the speed upgrade and micro em...
they can kite roaches with ease as long as u have the speed upgrade (he wont get his roach speed in time with the lair)...
nothing beats getting up to 20+ reapers and 2-3shotting buildings in zerg's base =p

it allow easy transition to marauders as well to kill those roaches or even tanks with the addons...
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QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Sep 22 2010, 11:54 AM)
nono, i don like to go 5 rax reaper against zerg, if zerg plant a sunker and go for mass roaches then i most probably will lose the game.
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the main purpose of the 5 rax reaper was to prevent zerg from fast expanding, and forcing him to build units that you can kite away.
after that you fast expand with you excess minerals and start building your BIO ball with your 5 rax.

killing off the Zerg is just icing on the cake.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 11:59 AM)
the main purpose of the 5 rax reaper was to prevent zerg from fast expanding, and forcing him to build units that you can kite away.
after that you fast expand with you excess minerals and start building your BIO ball with your 5 rax.

killing off the Zerg is just icing on the cake.
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reason y i 2queen as a zerg LOL...
and only expanded once i got speedlings (korean style as well)...
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 01:34 PM)
i never 13 gate these days, i find 12 gate more solid cuz i can get either zealots faster, or cybernetics faster in favor of stalkers

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VR too nerfed. needs buff
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And I was just wondering why the Ultralisk splash are not being discussed in here.
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And I was just wondering why the Ultralisk splash are not being discussed in here.
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shit unit after buff, still shit. wwwwwww
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 12:31 PM)
shit unit after buff, still shit. wwwwwww
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nope, it will be excellent unit for attacking base, especially those who block entrance with buildings, the ultralisk can attack many buildings at once, and if there are enemy units near the building, they also getting the damage, based on the youtube clip, anything within range 2 of the attacked building will take damage, resulting ultralisk can attack very far and very wide range, just 1 or 2 ultralisk attacking a hatchery/CC/Nexus can easily kill ALL miners who didnt run for their lives. And players who block entrance with building ie a barrack, and having marines behind the barracks can be killed by simply letting the ultralisk attacking the barrack, not killing those marine 1 by 1, its very wide area effect, 2 attacks on barrack, all marines standing too near to the barrack will die.
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 22 2010, 12:49 PM)
nope, it will be excellent unit for attacking base, especially those who block entrance with buildings, the ultralisk can attack many buildings at once, and if there are enemy units near the building, they also getting the damage, based on the youtube clip, anything within range 2 of the attacked building will take damage, resulting ultralisk can attack very far and very wide range, just 1 or 2 ultralisk attacking a hatchery/CC/Nexus can easily kill ALL miners who didnt run for their lives. And players who block entrance with building ie a barrack, and having marines behind the barracks can be killed by simply letting the ultralisk attacking the barrack, not killing those marine 1 by 1, its very wide area effect, 2 attacks on barrack, all marines standing too near to the barrack will die.
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umm yeah, WoW cleave mechanics. so?

immortals/marauders/zerg air or heavy roach hydra combo would like to say hello
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 22 2010, 12:49 PM)
nope, it will be excellent unit for attacking base, especially those who block entrance with buildings, the ultralisk can attack many buildings at once, and if there are enemy units near the building, they also getting the damage, based on the youtube clip, anything within range 2 of the attacked building will take damage, resulting ultralisk can attack very far and very wide range, just 1 or 2 ultralisk attacking a hatchery/CC/Nexus can easily kill ALL miners who didnt run for their lives. And players who block entrance with building ie a barrack, and having marines behind the barracks can be killed by simply letting the ultralisk attacking the barrack, not killing those marine 1 by 1, its very wide area effect, 2 attacks on barrack, all marines standing too near to the barrack will die.
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provided ur ultras can reach before dying LOL...

ps:
last nite i kited 20+ chargelots with like a 20food army of MM with stimmed 3 full circles around his base...
the army finally died after having too little hp to stim =(
but by then, i got like 50 food of MM waiting in my base n jz roll him again LOL
i enjoyed doing that but at the same time, i remember my main race is a toss - FML...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 22 2010, 11:14 AM)
lol i mean 13gate not 13pool...
standard toss build is 13gate, i do 12gate vs terran (or the 3 gate pushes build)...
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I hardly ever 12 Gate these days... 8 Pylon 10 Gate and 11 Gate (Or Assimilator) for early rushes. Unless the map is big enough, I'll do the conventional way.


QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Sep 22 2010, 11:34 AM)
arg every races got their cheese strat, i am afraid of baneling + fast ling rush, very deadly.
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Just block with whatever big buildings you have and snipe from the back. It's so much easier with Terran as compared to Protoss.

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Another one.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 01:04 PM)
umm yeah, WoW cleave mechanics. so?

immortals/marauders/zerg air or heavy roach hydra combo would like to say hello
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its not a fair comparison, every unit got their advantages and weakness, u cant say its useless cause there are many scenarios that they are weak. I am saying they got their usage, you can use them in some scenario, which in this case, they are good at attacking base, where their splash damage area depends on what they are attacking, the larger the unit they attack, the bigger splash damage area they can do.

And about marauders, they need to stay away from building to make them safe, ultralisk can simply attack a building that is between the marauders and the ultralisk to hurt them, kite might no longer work, ultralisk can just run behind a building and attack the building, if marauder chase the ultralisk, the ultralisk just need to attack the building and it will deal damage to all marauders that getting in the range of 2 of the building. im not sure if it still works if the ultralisk doing friendly attack on its own building, if it works, then the tactic can be widely used. Must be fun to see zealots getting killed by an ultralisk who attacking its own lair.
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marauders will kill the ultralisk faster than the ultra can kill with splash.
plus you have medivacs
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That range is just too much to handle...
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 22 2010, 01:32 PM)
marauders will kill the ultralisk faster than the ultra can kill with splash.
plus you have medivacs
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they both do extra damage on armored unit, marauders was the winner due to they have the range advantage, and they can kite ultralisk easily, if the fight happens in a base, the result is yet to be determined, the ultralisk might have some advantage in extending their range, not sure if the ultralisk now able to kite marauders in terran's base or not.
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Marauders+Viking no weakness le... Please tell me if got any LOL...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 01:49 PM)
Marauders+Viking no weakness le... Please tell me if got any LOL...
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zerglings
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Good 1 LOL... Should be MMM better right LOL...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 01:49 PM)
Marauders+Viking no weakness le... Please tell me if got any LOL...
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viking is good at small number, when in big number, they arent really that good, due to they normally will shoot at the same target, as for marauders, they are good to slow units down, and good attacking armored/building, really bad if enemy goes mass zerglings.
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 22 2010, 01:54 PM)
viking is good at small number, when in big number, they arent really that good, due to they normally will shoot at the same target, as for marauders, they are good to slow units down, and good attacking armored/building, really bad if enemy goes mass zerglings.
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But what happen if the fight at a choke? Zerglings cannot surround=GG... When Terran push up ram got problem...

I dun get what you mean by bad in big numbers... Not focus fire betteR?

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 01:55 PM)
But what happen if the fight at a choke? Zerglings cannot surround=GG... When Terran push up ram got problem...

I dun get what you mean by bad in big numbers... Not focus fire betteR?
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focus fire enough to kill 1 unit is better, but if they over fire, which the fire power enough to kill 3 units, they just attacking the same unit, will consider wasting, try mass viking vs mass mutas. U are a gold ranked player, i think u should know that which place is consider good for zerglings to init the attack.
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 22 2010, 02:27 PM)
focus fire enough to kill 1 unit is better, but if they over fire, which the fire power enough to kill 3 units, they just attacking the same unit, will consider wasting, try mass viking vs mass mutas. U are a gold ranked player, i think u should know that which place is consider good for zerglings to init the attack.
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That is the point... Too many choke infront of base hard to defend with a group of zerglings...

I little micro can help with viking maybe selecting only 6 to focus fire and the rest spread the damage... With their range they can counter almost every air unit...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 02:36 PM)
That is the point... Too many choke infront of base hard to defend with a group of zerglings...

I little micro can help with viking maybe selecting only 6 to focus fire and the rest spread the damage... With their range they can counter almost every air unit...
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phoenix > vikings
mutas > vikings

both if equal number
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Gonna test... But too much work to do... Haih... Anyway what is wrong with people in this forum so sensitive bout ladder rankings? I feel dun use ladder ranking to judge a player... I more of a bronze player then gold... I just got lucky thats all...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 02:54 PM)
Gonna test... But too much work to do... Haih... Anyway what is wrong with people in this forum so sensitive bout ladder rankings? I feel dun use ladder ranking to judge a player... I more of a bronze player then gold... I just got lucky thats all...
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i m not judging you good or bad, im assuming you done enough game to have enough experience, even u didnt use the strategy, u should have seen them.
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Nah.. I not so dedicated to this game... I stop watching replays already...

narf add me... Let have a game or 2 LOL... You seem cool... I rarely have chance to ZvZ also... Mostly meet terrans at ladder and frustrated that my ultralisk getting murdered by tier 1 units already LOL...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 02:54 PM)
Gonna test... But too much work to do... Haih... Anyway what is wrong with people in this forum so sensitive bout ladder rankings? I feel dun use ladder ranking to judge a player... I more of a bronze player then gold... I just got lucky thats all...
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ya its well known...
phoenix need focus fire micro a lot though (tastosis further confirms this)...
mutas i am not so sure but i heard day9 saying it before...
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 02:59 PM)
Nah.. I not so dedicated to this game... I stop watching replays already...

narf add me... Let have a game or 2 LOL... You seem cool... I rarely have chance to ZvZ also... Mostly meet terrans at ladder and frustrated that my ultralisk getting murdered by tier 1 units already LOL...
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 22 2010, 01:30 PM)
its not a fair comparison, every unit got their advantages and weakness, u cant say its useless cause there are many scenarios that they are weak. I am saying they got their usage, you can use them in some scenario, which in this case, they are good at attacking base, where their splash damage area depends on what they are attacking, the larger the unit they attack, the bigger splash damage area they can do.

And about marauders, they need to stay away from building to make them safe, ultralisk can simply attack a building that is between the marauders and the ultralisk to hurt them, kite might no longer work, ultralisk can just run behind a building and attack the building, if marauder chase the ultralisk, the ultralisk just need to attack the building and it will deal damage to all marauders that getting in the range of 2 of the building. im not sure if it still works if the ultralisk doing friendly attack on its own building, if it works, then the tactic can be widely used. Must be fun to see zealots getting killed by an ultralisk who attacking its own lair.
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you're trying to say an ultralisk is useful by abusing a most likely unintended (blue post did hinted this) game mechanic? lol

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QUOTE(incx @ Sep 22 2010, 01:35 PM)
That range is just too much to handle...
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the cleave was ALWAYS there. just that they cleave buildings now, and the cleave radius is based on the point of target, thats where things gotten a little too crazy

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 02:54 PM)
Gonna test... But too much work to do... Haih... Anyway what is wrong with people in this forum so sensitive bout ladder rankings? I feel dun use ladder ranking to judge a player... I more of a bronze player then gold... I just got lucky thats all...
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trying to argue your way out of being terribad? wwwwwwww

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Point of my earlier statement.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 03:40 PM)
you're trying to say an ultralisk is useful by abusing a most likely unintended (blue post did hinted this) game mechanic? lol
yes, marauders arent suppose to shoot and move, they are suppose to stand still and shot, but still ppl doing that, rite ? =P
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i nerf u,
u nerf me,
lets nerf everything's OP
i keep losing every game, to the imba race
hybrid come and blow us up
hybrid come and blow us up

edit: typo of theme and team sleep.gif"

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 22 2010, 04:20 PM)
yes, marauders arent suppose to shoot and move, they are suppose to stand still and shot, but still ppl doing that, rite ? =P
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Every mechanic are there to be abuse just that Marauders move so fast for the amount of firepower they carry... I do not get that... They why not give immortals stalker's movement speed... Since they both have 4 legs... Zzzz....

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i nerf u,
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lets nerf everything's OP
i keep losing every game, to the imba race
hybrid come and blow us up
hybrid come and blow us up
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Woohoo nerfing for life...

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 22 2010, 04:20 PM)
yes, marauders arent suppose to shoot and move, they are suppose to stand still and shot, but still ppl doing that, rite ? =P
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that is very much intended. if you didnt get what i was pointing at, read blizz forums regarding patch 1.1/ultralisk. blue post is on the 2nd post too AFAIK

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Point of my earlier statement.
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so you're settled for being terribad?

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 04:43 PM)
that is very much intended. if you didnt get what i was pointing at, read blizz forums regarding patch 1.1/ultralisk. blue post is on the 2nd post too AFAIK

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so you're settled for being terribad?
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Dude please leave it be... If you think your so high and mighty just because your in a platinum league then good for your thumbup.gif .

Respect are given when it is due and you coming in and saying that im bad just because im in gold league is just disrespectful. So please unless you want to apologize for saying that im a lousy player because im in the gold league then i have no more business with you. Please get you ego out of your a** for once.

You want me to say im a terrible player say it right not some sudo english you created (terribad). Posting this type of provocation are just proving me right, so just save your face and let it go.

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 05:15 PM)
Dude please leave it be... If you think your so high and mighty just because your in a platinum league then good for your thumbup.gif .

Respect are given when it is due and you coming in and saying that im bad just because im in gold league is just disrespectful. So please unless you want to apologize for saying that im a lousy player because im in the gold league then i have no more business with you. Please get you ego out of your a** for once.

You want me to say im a terrible player say it right not some sudo english you created (terribad). Posting this type of provocation are just proving me right, so just save your face and let it go.
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why you so bitter? wwwwwwwww

im not the one needing to save face by justifying my own language/english, or my ranks/leagues in ladder, just so you know.
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Tsk, stop feeding the qua... i mean, troll.
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Tsk, stop feeding the qua... i mean, troll.
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i thought you enjoy seeing butthurt people.
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Tsk, stop feeding the qua... i mean, troll.
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Haha wanted to call him that but i respect people too much too.. Thanks for doing it for me... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Sep 22 2010, 06:34 PM)
Haha wanted to call him that but i respect people too much too.. Thanks for doing it for me...  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
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you sure know how to overrate 'respect' over an internet board. cant say i am not amused.
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you are easily amused by that? i'm amused now
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you are easily amused by that? i'm amused now
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why not? forum these days are rather bland. if anyone as much as put a funny ASCII of raynor facepalming id lol straight up im tellin ye
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 11:41 PM)
why not? forum these days are rather bland. if anyone as much as put a funny ASCII of raynor facepalming id lol straight up im tellin ye
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to care so much about the forum you need to get a life
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to care so much about the forum you need to get a life
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>implying all i care is LYN forum
>advising people on the internuts to "get a life"

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

not bad not bad.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 11:47 PM)
>implying all i care is LYN forum
>advising people on the internuts to "get a life"

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

not bad not bad.
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you just owned yourself right there
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you just owned yourself right there
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have you EVER 4/2 chan'ed? because i am having strong doubts you even understood what i posted at all.
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have you EVER 4/2 chan'ed? because i am having strong doubts you even understood what i posted at all.
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have you ever been trolled? cause you just got trolled

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have you ever been trolled? cause you just got trolled

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orly? because if that was a troll attempt, it was so weak i dont think i've picked it up at all.

ps: at least get a image hosting site to host that coolface? wink.gif
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orly? because if that was a troll attempt, it was so weak i dont think i've picked it up at all.

ps: at least get a image hosting site to host that coolface? wink.gif
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why would i even want to do that?its too much hassle
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hey guys, would you ppl please stop that right here ? it seems to be a little bit off topic for a little bit too long. thank you.
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why would i even want to do that?its  too much hassle
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so you would make your trolling attempt that much less embarrassing?
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take this to the pm sleep.gif"
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so you would make your trolling attempt that much less embarrassing?
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only otakus like you would feel embarrass by things like that btw thanks for the entertainment , i'm gonna stop here have fun hugging your anime pillow, do invite me when you marry one of them virtual characters

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Common, it's just a discussion regarding a GAME only, not like winning arguments is going to lengthen your penor.

Why so serious?
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QUOTE(choyster @ Sep 22 2010, 10:51 PM)
only otakus like you would feel embarrass by things like that btw thanks for the entertainment , i'm gonna stop here have fun hugging your anime pillow, do invite me when you marry one of them virtual characters
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at least try to look up harder on the definitions at least, before furthering your embarrassment.

and sure! you will be the FIRST one to know if i do marry my 2D waifu.

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Wut No Chat room?
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Common, it's just a discussion regarding a GAME only, not like winning arguments is going to lengthen your penor.

Why so serious?
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sc2facts.jpg / sc2facts.html

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 22 2010, 09:47 PM)
>implying all i care is LYN forum
>advising people on the internuts to "get a life"

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

not bad not bad.
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seriously... quazacolt win...

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wait sorry if my urban dictionary is not good but i have to ask what is wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww?
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has anyone tried whether the replays saved in version 1.03 works after the 1.1 patch?
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QUOTE(Honky @ Sep 23 2010, 10:24 AM)
has anyone tried whether the replays saved in version 1.03 works after the 1.1 patch?
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doh.gif
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wait sorry if my urban dictionary is not good but i have to ask what is wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww?
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its the equivalent of lol in japanese 2ch board. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2channel
derived from "warau" (or warai depending on context) which literally means laugh.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/warau#Japanese

more w's means more lols
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doh.gif
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In warcraft 3 and many other games, older replays get unsupported when new patches are released, so yeah its a very valid question. And i'm at work so i can't test it myself.

you want to be such a smart as$, do it somewhere else.
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the speed improvement for OL is a hoax.. sad.gif
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nvm we got lolawesome ultralisks now.

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donno why but i would like the base OL speed improvement.. good for scouting after using drones.. sad.gif
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no cooldown time for chronoboost and mule...anyone having problem going multiplayer in SEA after patch?

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Yeah apparently after these updates/fresh install you gotta download some stuff again like maps...

I had this same shit when I had a fresh installation.
Now I'm facing it again damn.

Edit: The downloads are not smooth, my theory is that you are downloading from lobby hosts so if no games are hosted then it'll get stuck. Stupid map system, why can't they stick to the hassle free like from WC3's?
Reminds me of Apple and their oh-you-must-use-itunes-to-copy shit.

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donno why but i would like the base OL speed improvement.. good for scouting after using drones.. sad.gif
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I afraid I will make it that far till ultralisk.

Cheap tactic: when there's a building beside you dont fight ultra AS THE SPLASH WILL DESTROY YOU

I wanna go US server and loose all my game so I dont have to worry about winning rate anymore so that I cant get distracted by WLR anymore
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 23 2010, 05:10 PM)
I afraid I will make it that far till ultralisk.

Cheap tactic: when there's a building beside you dont fight ultra AS THE SPLASH WILL DESTROY YOU

I wanna go US server and loose all my game so I dont have to worry about winning rate anymore so that I cant get distracted by WLR anymore
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pro-tip: bring a few drone wit u, make a hatch in the middle of the battlefield and CLEAVE AWAY (saurfang style)

WTB clan options /sigh
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 23 2010, 05:12 PM)
pro-tip: bring a few drone wit u, make a hatch in the middle of the battlefield and CLEAVE AWAY (saurfang style)

WTB clan options /sigh
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That will come as an cash shop upgrade option, since they need extra income due to their evil CEO..

U want a community?
U want a chatroom option?
U want to add more than 100 friends?

April package promotion at $9.99 only!!

haha just kidding

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on the other hand, wall off ur base wil hatcheries, put 2 hatcheries to hit the hatcheries if melee units comes haha.. sounds interesting but it's stupid on the other hand.
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 23 2010, 05:18 PM)
That will come as an cash shop upgrade option, since they need extra income due to their evil CEO..

U want a community?
U want a chatroom option?
U want to add more than 100 friends?

April package promotion at $9.99 only!!

haha just kidding

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on the other hand, wall off ur base wil hatcheries, put 2 hatcheries to hit the hatcheries if melee units comes haha.. sounds interesting but it's stupid on the other hand.
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Wait WTB is want to buy right? I do not get ur sentence...
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I cant finish downloading any maps. It always fails at 49%
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i leave it to download then go watch tv. then i check the coop game went halfway dy. luckily still can win. 53 maps redownload. where can tahan.
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Meh I have a map corrupted, but due to the lousy system I don't know how to fix this. Don't even know where the map is located!!!

Says "Error in loading map" or something along that line.
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i leave it to download then go watch tv. then i check the coop game went halfway dy. luckily still can win. 53 maps redownload. where can tahan.
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Bro, mind uploading your cache folder? Many of us having problems getting the maps. Will appreciate it a lot!

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Meh I have a map corrupted, but due to the lousy system I don't know how to fix this. Don't even know where the map is located!!!

Says "Error in loading map" or something along that line.
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mine also havnig problem, downloading the cache tru mega upload. sigh blizzard
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i am downloading through this link

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=82OIOJ8O

got it from
http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/48665764?page=1#12

better do some back up date.
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Hm, but isn't that file before the patch release?
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I had the megaupload one before, works like a charm for my 1.03.

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yeah, sheit, i din notice that 1 is uploaded 14sept damn. gonna download the new 1
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5) When I exit starcraft it freezes on the planetscape image.


Anyone with this problem?
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Anyone with this problem?
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It occured to me. Reinstalling solved it. Forced to reinstall cause the 1.1 patch.......................
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Does not work.
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ok here I also face same problem like you all.
Now I found a easier solution for it.
When I login SEA region, I try so many time it keep fail on downloading the content. Now I change region to NA, it download and finisih very fast, now with this , I able to play in either SEA or NA. so I suspect IAH server not as good as US server that why it keep drop when we downloading the map.
Hope that this can help you all.
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Yea, stuck now. Not sure what to do... I don't think reinstalling is the best option.

@diehard: I'll try your suggestion and see. Thanks for the tip.

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man, i think this is workable, u guys go NA server, click the search game, then the map will starting to download, mine 3/9 maps done

Added on September 23, 2010, 9:50 pmi think my problem solve, downloaed tru NA server

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Thanks for the tip diehard. It worked for me. I guess it's IAH servers that are giving problems.
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yeah man, and IAH guy keep ignore this problem. damn sux. have fun everyone
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Download from NA server. biggrin.gif

Added on September 23, 2010, 10:08 pmI went to the NA server, entered the practice league and.... Oh shit, slaughtered the newbies

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post Sep 23 2010, 10:11 PM

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yeah pyro, we pawn IAH wahahaha, i already share this in the sea server
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post Sep 23 2010, 10:15 PM

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Haha. Think I no need to upload already.
Yea the NA side works too. smile.gif
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post Sep 23 2010, 10:20 PM

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oh, hi cyberkaki, was thinking ur link workable and already downloaded halfway only realize that 1 is for previous version lol
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post Sep 23 2010, 10:22 PM

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Yea, I almost downloaded his when I realized it's like few days back. Haha. But glad it works now for everyone. Was figuring it out how to deal with it whole day long...
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post Sep 23 2010, 10:35 PM

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IAH dunno have knowledge ppl to setup server and maintenace it?
dunno why NA can work well than this.
After a few game, I feel that NA server quite well, I not feel any lag at there.
IAH one most of the time when game start, we issue worker, it mostly delay at that time but I not facing delay on NA when game start.
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post Sep 23 2010, 11:02 PM

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After finish patch, i cant click Find match or join games...
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post Sep 23 2010, 11:06 PM

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i dun like the new colorful icons cry.gif

i like the icons from before... looks more classy
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post Sep 23 2010, 11:14 PM

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After just 1 game on US server, i'd dare say we're paying more for a crappy server in SG, the US region load menus, profiles, logins, etc WAY faster than SEA server. I've played 1 game agaisnt a US player and there was NO lag, surprisingly. IAH said we're paying more and other regions cause a server is made in SG so that we get smooth connection, what a load of crap
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anyway for me to run old version 1.0.3 starcraft?
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post Sep 23 2010, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Honky @ Sep 23 2010, 11:14 PM)
After just 1 game on US server, i'd dare say we're paying more for a crappy server in SG, the US region load menus, profiles, logins, etc WAY faster than SEA server. I've played 1 game agaisnt a US player and there was NO lag, surprisingly. IAH said we're paying more and other regions cause a server is made in SG so that we get smooth connection, what a load of crap
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i could feel some delay for US though when i am making probes compared to SEA lol
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Is that when we start launching the game, it only show login screen? the left side dun show region at all, we have to login then logout ,it only appear the region button?
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QUOTE(diehard1979 @ Sep 23 2010, 11:38 PM)
Is that when we start launching the game, it only show login screen? the left side dun show region at all, we have to login then logout ,it only appear the region button?
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That's cause you have your SC2 remembered your account, so you go straight into the screen with your email and password entry, just click the crooked arrow beside your email to go back 1 step and you'll see the region button appear on your left
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QUOTE(his @ Sep 23 2010, 02:57 PM)
no cooldown time for chronoboost and mule...anyone having problem going multiplayer in SEA after patch?
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i got no prob to play with SEA
but how to play with NA?
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guys sorry please allow a n00b question from me...

i updated to patch 1.1, but when i inside mp, how do I search those fansy custom map hosted from US server?
I already manage my account and add SC2 in US reagion...
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QUOTE(IisTHEmoron @ Sep 23 2010, 11:06 PM)
i dun like the new colorful icons  cry.gif

i like the icons from before... looks more classy
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haha same here
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post Sep 24 2010, 12:38 AM

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But I thought the icons were much more attractive than the previous ones. ph34r.gif
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post Sep 24 2010, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Sep 23 2010, 11:52 PM)
guys sorry please allow a n00b question from me...

i updated to patch 1.1, but when i inside mp, how do I search those fansy custom map hosted from US server?
I already manage my account and add SC2 in US reagion...
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try logoff, and at the login screen, choose US region.. and walla!
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Hey, any of you guys faced massive fps drops during the menu when the battlecruiser appears? Mind facing it after patching to 1.1, previous patch doesn't have any problem.

My comp spec is E6300 1.86ghz, 8800gts and 2gb ram.

EDIT: Problem seems to be go on and off, after i relogged in few times, no more problem, not sure about next time tho.

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QUOTE(Sesshoumaru @ Sep 23 2010, 04:56 PM)
Yeah apparently after these updates/fresh install you gotta download some stuff again like maps...

I had this same shit when I had a fresh installation.
Now I'm facing it again damn.

Edit: The downloads are not smooth, my theory is that you are downloading from lobby hosts so if no games are hosted then it'll get stuck. Stupid map system, why can't they stick to the hassle free like from WC3's?
Reminds me of Apple and their oh-you-must-use-itunes-to-copy shit.
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pretty much why android is the winrar phone OS now.

btw im supporting maxis on their iphone launch, its 1:49AM now, and the queue is still all the way to the car park at gardens hotel. and get this: THE EVENT IS ONLY FOR INVITED PEOPLE ONLY (those who pre-registered). LOL

as for patch: GTFO SEA FROM MY NA SERVER PLOX

Added on September 24, 2010, 2:02 am
QUOTE(Honky @ Sep 23 2010, 11:14 PM)
After just 1 game on US server, i'd dare say we're paying more for a crappy server in SG, the US region load menus, profiles, logins, etc WAY faster than SEA server. I've played 1 game agaisnt a US player and there was NO lag, surprisingly. IAH said we're paying more and other regions cause a server is made in SG so that we get smooth connection, what a load of crap
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BALIK LAH SEA WOIH LAGGING MAH NA UP

in all seriousness though, lol at SEA flooding NA. why bother SEA'ing anyways stupid blizz/IAH

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New problem arise, i can't even join/get invited/create a map, when i choosen a map, or accept invitation from my friend to his lobby, i cant proceed to the waiting page, any solution to this?
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whoa got my first win at US server, hahaha zerg rush FTW !(oops we both zerg...)
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post Sep 24 2010, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Sep 24 2010, 02:07 AM)
New problem arise, i can't even join/get invited/create a map, when i choosen a map, or accept invitation from my friend to his lobby, i cant proceed to the waiting page, any solution to this?
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Means sc2 is downloading in the background. The downloading wont end as SEA servers is crappy. As before, go to NA server and complete all the new downloading then return to SEA.
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I see, thanks for the great tips, will try that later. smile.gif
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oh, hi cyberkaki, was thinking ur link workable and already downloaded halfway only realize that 1 is for previous version lol
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Hey rotijohn. smile.gif
Haha yea.
I was kinda worried when I saw your post cause my cache was before the patch.
Later I read on see that you all go NA to get your maps.
I was relieved haha.
Hope to see you in game. smile.gif
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single player button greyed out...how to solve this?
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post Sep 25 2010, 08:49 AM

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Join the NA server, update your maps, log in back to your SEA server and you'll be fine.
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Sep 25 2010, 12:23 AM)
single player button greyed out...how to solve this?
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QUOTE(incx @ Sep 25 2010, 08:49 AM)
Join the NA server, update your maps, log in back to your SEA server and you'll be fine.
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Hi Savor_Savvy,
I read that you were having problems getting on to the NA server?
You have to go to your bnet account to add the NA region of the game to your account.
It is free as stated there. So don't worry about any additional charges.
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Guys, is there a "map pack" for 1.1? I have updated like 5 of the maps from top to bottom 1 by 1 but this is getting ridiculous...

Thanks.
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Hmmm want me to upload my cache to megaupload for you?
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post Sep 28 2010, 09:10 AM

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I'm trying to play sc2 now, but the game is downloading the 1.1 patch again?!
Anyone facing this too? I must wait again.. Dem..

Added on September 28, 2010, 9:20 amooh..
no wonder..
it's patch 1.1.1 actually.. blush.gif

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1.1.1? New patch to fix the ultralisk's "bug"?
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ultralisk's cleave damage fixed whistling.gif
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