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post Oct 4 2010, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Oct 4 2010, 03:31 PM)
Another game thrown away. Heard that the team played badly.
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yeah. we were lucky to get away with a point to be fair. im quite disappointed with the away form this season. we are dropping too many points away from home and that really concerns me in the bid for the title challenge.
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QUOTE(rekrazie @ Oct 4 2010, 01:53 PM)
did anyone noticed that Nani has changed boots from Nike Mercurial Vapor to Adidas F50? I tot he is sponsor by Nike? Or the player have the permission to choose and try any other boot?

Other than Nani, Dani Alves also has changed boot from Nike to Adidas.
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probably signed by adidas start from this season?

oh well, Van Der Vaart performed brilliant for this starting season in Tottenham, just at a bargaining price for 8mil++
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i likes Nike tho...
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man. city come on 2nd place above us..
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van der vaart. aiyoh why RM wanted to sell him to us at 16m but only 8m to spurs?

i liked the guy very much since his ajax day.. but i wonder will he performs as well as he is now with spurs if he was in MU? u know, at spurs, he is the star, all the moves and strategy are based around him..

i doubt he will enjoy the privillege in MU.
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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 4 2010, 04:48 PM)
van der vaart. aiyoh why RM wanted to sell him to us at 16m but only 8m to spurs?

i liked the guy very much since his ajax day.. but i wonder will he performs as well as he is now with spurs if he was in MU? u know, at spurs, he is the star, all the moves and strategy are based around him..

i doubt he will enjoy the privillege in MU.
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Not many think from this perspective, sadly ..
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we are the team who depends heavily on good wingers. when our wingers had a great game, other players especially in the middle of the field would also enjoy the same good game.

last time we had Beckham and Ronaldo. during that period, most of our attacks and goals started from these 2 guys. Keane, Scholes, Carrick can bosses the middle of the field because opponents were focusing on our wingers a lot. Beckham with his long ball and crosses into the box, and Ronaldo with his maze run and thunderous shot could produce big things from nothing.

now as Valencia is injured, it's up to Nani to perform well. because most of our goals will come from wing play..


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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 4 2010, 05:04 PM)
we are the team who depends heavily on good wingers. when our wingers had a great game, other players especially in the middle of the field would also enjoy the same good game.

last time we had Beckham and Ronaldo. during that period, most of our attacks and goals started from these 2 guys. Keane, Scholes, Carrick can bosses the middle of the field because opponents were focusing on our wingers a lot. Beckham with his long ball and crosses into the box, and Ronaldo with his maze run and thunderous shot could produce big things from nothing.

now as Valencia is injured, it's up to Nani to perform well. because most of our goals will come from wing play..
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most of the goal did came from wings but the play,the moves, the pass came from the middle. our center midfielder who always been creating the chance for the likes of beck to cross and ronaldo to run forward. old days it was giggs on the run. scholes will be hard to replace.. after all this yrs he still the most creative player on our side.

for me van der vaart certainly quite a missed.. can dictate play, scores, very experience
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where is obertan huh?just bought him and sumbat him in reserve team?
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Oct 4 2010, 02:17 PM)
Scholes has done done many times too


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That last goal. I lol at Yorke(?) dodging the shot. Would've decapitated him if he failed to avoid the shot. Haha.

QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Oct 4 2010, 03:10 PM)
I know that, but it'll bring many more dynamicism to our gameplay smile.gif

Hehe just a dream of mine, nothing here.
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I don't know if he'll bring dynamism into our gameplay, but I sure as hell know that the team will be easy to press and easy to counter.

QUOTE(kimon @ Oct 4 2010, 05:36 PM)
where is obertan huh?just bought him and sumbat him in reserve team?
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He's still not ready it seems. The plan is to keep him working on bulking up. He'll start when he's ready.
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well we got a clean sheet(though the game is as exciting as watching the paint dry)

QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 4 2010, 05:21 PM)
probably signed by adidas start from this season?

oh well, Van Der Vaart performed brilliant for this starting season in Tottenham, just at a bargaining price for 8mil++
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Google Shinji Kagawa la

he's a big star already(and he's like 5 month older than me) and it only cost 3 weeks of Rooney's paychecks

that's the real deal

VDV is a great player too,but not that bargain if you ask me.some people are right that VDV is better played in Tottenham(with their long passes and fast winger)

i think the reason why VDV is being left out of real madrid is because of the arrival of richard
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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 4 2010, 04:48 PM)
van der vaart. aiyoh why RM wanted to sell him to us at 16m but only 8m to spurs?

i liked the guy very much since his ajax day.. but i wonder will he performs as well as he is now with spurs if he was in MU? u know, at spurs, he is the star, all the moves and strategy are based around him..

i doubt he will enjoy the privillege in MU.
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this is all part of the conspiracy to bring in another dutch playmaker with treble medal. u hear it here 1st!
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We've not done too badly comparing to seasons past, although my 'table' is slightly flawed since teams performance level vary each season so the results might not show the true strength of each team.
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Anybody have some free time to do our first 7 games of each season(4-5 seasons)? the past few seasons..
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Our performances haven't really been great, but looking at those, it's not too bad. Differences of 5 points or so. You win some, you lose some. The hard thing for us is catching Chelsea up. With the form they're in, they won't stop much for us to catch up. Our performances will definitely improve. We can and should play a lot better that what we've shown so far.


Added on October 4, 2010, 7:50 pmMight take us until into Nov to pick up steam though..

Hopefully with Rio back it will calm things down at the back and we can build from there. I'd like to see Carrick-Scholes again. Need a solid base, and they could provide it, unless Carrick is still in his shell.


Added on October 4, 2010, 8:25 pm
QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 4 2010, 05:23 PM)
most of the goal did came from wings but the play,the moves, the pass came from the middle. our center midfielder who always been creating the chance for the likes of beck to cross and ronaldo to run forward. old days it was giggs on the run. scholes will be hard to replace.. after all this yrs he still the most creative player on our side.

for me van der vaart certainly quite a missed.. can dictate play, scores, very experience
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And he plays out wide(not like a winger, more like a roaming AM who starts out wide) for Spurs. And we have the likes of Nani, Valencia, Park, Giggs, Cleverley, Obertan out wide. We will always play with two strikers. So the position left to play is in the middle. Nobody will use him in the middle when they play 442(which we do play a lot of the time). And thus that's one of the reason why we never bought any of his kind/type(Sneidjer is another one) unless they're comfortable playing there(middle of 442). Ando, forward/attacking midfielder before he joins us and now he plays more like a deep lying midfielder, battling for the ball and spraying passes from deep ala Carrick/Scholes/Fletcher.

He could really be useful for us in a 433/4231 setup though since we don't really have an option that could wow us from there right now. But then would he really be happy not being the absolute first choice since we play more than half our games with 442.

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QUOTE(Wan @ Oct 4 2010, 07:28 PM)

Added on October 4, 2010, 8:25 pmAnd he plays out wide(not like a winger, more like a roaming AM who starts out wide) for Spurs. And we have the likes of Nani, Valencia, Park, Giggs, Cleverley, Obertan out wide. We will always play with two strikers. So the position left to play is in the middle. Nobody will use him in the middle when they play 442(which we do play a lot of the time). And thus that's one of the reason why we never bought any of his kind/type(Sneidjer is another one) unless they're comfortable playing there(middle of 442). Ando, forward/attacking midfielder before he joins us and now he plays more like a deep lying midfielder, battling for the ball and spraying passes from deep ala Carrick/Scholes/Fletcher.

He could really be useful for us in a 433/4231 setup though since we don't really have an option that could wow us from there right now. But then would he really be happy not being the absolute first choice since we play more than half our games with 442.
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yes this is what i meant.

while it's true there's centre of midfielder that moves the ball, the architect of attack for MU is always the winger. last time it's either cross from Beckham, or dribbles into penalty box by Giggs and Ronaldo.. that's why some good attacking midfielder not really excel in MU if they cant change their gameplay. remember Veron?

when Rooney hit his top form last season, most of the goals were from header, which came mostly from crosses by Valencia..


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Berba won the PFA player of the month award. 2 in a row for United in terms of personal achievements, but results wise we could have done a bit better as a whole team.
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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 4 2010, 08:55 PM)
yes this is what i meant.

while it's true there's centre of midfielder that moves the ball, the architect of attack for MU is always the winger. last time it's either cross from Beckham, or dribbles  into penalty box by Giggs and Ronaldo.. that's why some good attacking midfielder not really excel in MU if they cant change their gameplay. remember Veron?

when Rooney hit his top form last season, most of the goals were from header, which came mostly from crosses by Valencia..
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Yeah it's our attacking players(wingers, strikers) who slice open and do the damage while our midfielders play the supporting cast usually supplying them with the ammo and cover to to them from the outside. Ando could be the one to change that, but it may take a while. Gibson is another although right now all he does is shoot.

With Keane still there at the time where he still have a lot of influence in our play, and Scholes, plus us being new to the European way of playing(slow tempo, 451/433) meant we didn't utilise Veron properly. If Veron had come a bit later, then we might have. We played him out wide, in an AM position.. didn't suit him at all. He's like Carrick/Alonso type. Deep lying playmaker, but our team wasn't ready for that kind of guy maybe especially since he need someone next to him to do the defensive work.

QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 4 2010, 10:18 PM)
Berba won the PFA player of the month award. 2 in a row for United in terms of personal achievements, but results wise we could have done a bit better as a whole team.
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We certainly could.We just need to sort out how we defend as a team. Liverpool goals came from their wingers coming into the middle from wide and having open space to pass/whatever which resulted in them getting a penalty and freekick and scoring from them.
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Berba scoops fans' gong

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Dimitar Berbatov has picked up the first PFA Fans' Player of the Month award of 2010/11 after his excellent start to the campaign.

Sir Alex declared "this could be Dimitar’s season" after his wonderful goal in the Community Shield and, judging by the Bulgarian's form since then, the Reds boss could well be right.

Berbatov netted against Newcastle, West Ham and Everton, and his stunning hat-trick against Liverpool also made a big impression on givemefootball.com readers, who voted him ahead of Chelsea trio Didier Drogba, Nicolas Anelka and Florent Malouda.

Dimi's first Reds treble took his tally for the season to six and he hailed Ferguson as "one of the most successful managers in the history of the game".

"I write things down about the way we train and how he treats people. It is like a school," he said. "You work with the best manager and play with the best players. I try to learn. I am at the biggest club in the world. If I can learn anywhere it is here."

Meanwhile, Brazilian defender Lucio, who played alongside Berbatov at Bayer Leverkusen, says the Reds frontman is up there with the best players in the world.

"With the natural ability that guy has, we could be talking about him being the world player of the year this season," said Lucio.

"I've played with Kaka, Ronaldinho, Wesley Sneijder – and Berbatov is as naturally gifted as any of them. It took him time to adjust at United but, once he did, I was always confident he would hit this sort of form.

"He is now entering his peak years and I am sure he will get better and better."


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6652689

Reds squad in rude health

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Sir Alex Ferguson is set to have several selection dilemmas when West Bromwich Albion visit Old Trafford following the international break.

The United squad is arguably stronger now that any other point during 2010, with Rio Ferdinand, Anderson, Michael Carrick and Paul Scholes all available again after injury, Owen Hargreaves now in full training and weekend absentee Wayne Rooney expected to be fit in time for England’s Euro 2012 qualifier against Montenegro on Tuesday week.

Add to that the way new signings Bebe, Chris Smalling and Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez are settling in, plus the fact international retiree Ryan Giggs will have had another fortnight to recover from injury, and things are looking rather rosey for Sir Alex. Selecting a side from a huge squad will be his next challenge, although his back four is beginning to pick itself again after the successful reunion of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic.

“When you know your defensive part is strong and solid, then it gives you the encouragement and the freedom to attack at will," said Sir Alex. "If our defence is solid, then we can wait until the 85th minute to win a game. We’ve always been able to do that."

In central midfield, Anderson, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Hargreaves, Darren Fletcher and Darron Gibson are all vying for a maximum three places. Meanwhile up front, Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov are being pushed by Chicharito and the pair who started at Sunderland - Michael Owen and Federico Macheda.

“With Michael, Chicharito and Kiko, we’ve got really terrific choices," said Sir Alex. "This is where it’s proving more difficult for me, choosing the right players in the right game."


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6652681

Giggs - I'd love to boss Utd

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Manchester United legend Ryan Giggs has admitted for the first time that he would love to manage the club.

The 36-year-old winger has spent his entire career at Old Trafford but concedes his playing days will soon be at an end.

With an eye to the future, the Welsh wizard is currently taking his Uefa coaching badges.

He was linked with the vacant Wales post after previous boss John Toshack confirmed his resignation last month but ruled himself out of the race.

But he admits he would love to manage both United and Wales one day, although he accepts he will look to cut his managerial teeth away from Old Trafford before a possible return.

Finish career

Giggs told The Sun: "I think I will probably finish my career here (at Old Trafford).

"I am at an age now where it is coming to an end pretty soon. I cannot see myself dropping down leagues and playing at a lesser level.

"If you do decide to go into management, for me the ultimate jobs are Wales and Manchester United, purely because I have played for my country and for the team I supported. Those two would be the best ones for me.

"If that was to happen I shouldn't think I'd be able to take over straight away. So if I was to go into management I would have to go elsewhere and be very successful - then come back."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6425940,00.html

Van der Sar hails Rio return

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Manchester United goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar has praised the form of Rio Ferdinand since his return from injury.

Ferdinand endured a lengthy spell on the sidelines following a knee injury sustained on England duty prior to the World Cup.

But the United stopper played in back-to-back outings last week, helping his side record clean sheets in both games.

And Van der Sar has backed Ferdinand, in particular for his response after his World Cup heartache.

He told the Manchester Evening News: "It is nice when you get experienced players back. He did really well and has been working so hard to regain his fitness.

"He had the disappointment of not captaining England at the World Cup. But, hopefully, all the hard work he has put in will pay off and give him a good season without missing too many matches."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6426740,00.html
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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 4 2010, 04:48 PM)
van der vaart. aiyoh why RM wanted to sell him to us at 16m but only 8m to spurs?

i liked the guy very much since his ajax day.. but i wonder will he performs as well as he is now with spurs if he was in MU? u know, at spurs, he is the star, all the moves and strategy are based around him..

i doubt he will enjoy the privillege in MU.
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We were never really into signing him right? With Berba we told him to wait for a season, but he had already agreed to sign for Spurs that that time I think. And there was rumours we were in for him throughout his time at Spurs with Levy threatening to report us for 'tapping' him up.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 4 2010, 06:37 PM)
this is all part of the conspiracy to bring in another dutch playmaker with treble medal. u hear it here 1st!
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hmm this conspiracy has been going around in italy before la laugh.gif heard his promised wasnt kept. brows.gif brows.gif

has begun a boring 2 weeks of no football. yawn.gif

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Although United were much better in the second half, and might have pinched what would have been a rather cheeky three points, the Reds need to find a cure for the post-Europe blues. Last season Sir Alex’s lost five out of the 10 weekend games that followed midweek Champions League matches.
an improvement perhaps??so far we record no losses yet after european nights.

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