Oh, one more thing, as stars evolve, it will expand. Earth age about 4.5 billion years. If the hollow earth theory is true, inner sun would have expanded. Earth shell should experience some form of distortion, either expand, or shrink, or collapse into inner sun gravity and heat.

Stated bearing is at 90 N. 48"04.172 E (2.0)D

Not close enough to the "hole" bearing.

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Added on September 18, 2010, 10:04 amYes, the internal earth is mapped by seismic BUT how big should a seismic reader should be? As the case of ultrasound, the power and size of the machine needed to go inside the mother's womb. But in earth case, you need to measure all around the world PLUS other material buried in the ground also how about a larger gap in the ground like caves. I already posted some cave picture that go down for thousands of feet and we have the largest cave system at Sarawak Mulu caves where it can go miles deep and cove a vast amount of areas .. so if a seismologyst measure earth and he was standing above a giant cave.. how could he measure that? If he can measure the earth crust, why we do we have cave explorers to see where and how deep is the caves goes?
Such as the crystal cave, how would the seismic measure react to a hollow ground?

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"By close study of many earthquake records from around the world, we can map out the parts of the Earth's interior where seismic waves arrive sooner or later than average. Those that come sooner travel faster. Those that come later are slowed down by something along the way. In scientific shorthand, the variations in travel time reflect variations in seismic velocity. That's the basis of seismic "ultrasound imaging," because many specific parts of the mantle (and core) have different seismic velocities. Once you know how to pinpoint those places, you can turn earthquake data into pictures of the Earth's interior.

There are two simple complications. First, seismic waves don't move in a straight line through the Earth but instead bend, or refract, in response to changes in rock density. Second, seismic waves can bounce, or reflect, off of sharp density boundaries. One of these is the Earth's surface, the boundary between the crust and the atmosphere. Another one, even sharper than that, is between the mantle and the core. And there are other lesser ones.

In exactly the same way, doctors send high-frequency sound through a mother's belly to map out the density boundaries between bones and skin and organs to take a baby picture. The image is actually a tomogram ("slice picture"), a cross-section of the mother and child. The same procedure on the Earth is called seismic tomography. " - About.com Geology

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This link to a seismic study which has a very intresting images ..

http://www.physorg.com/news90171847.html

This post has been edited by ScrewBallX: Sep 18 2010, 10:27 AM

gratz.
you have posted more evidence regarding the non-hollow core earth again.
random it might seem,
or you don't know how to differentiate and choose supportive evidence for ur hollow core earth postulate.
instead you are busting it with us now =)

Stated at first post .. please read.

yep i did read.
the recent posts of you seemed biased towards the non-hollow core earth theory more than your original idea,
as you might not realize,
but you sometimes do provide supportive evidence for the existing earth model.

So, how was our hollow earth formed?

Adding..

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Added on September 18, 2010, 4:16 pmAdding ...

http://www.mosnews.com/weird/2009/05/20/mammoth/

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http://www.think-aboutit.com/hollow/hollow_earth.htm

This post has been edited by ScrewBallX: Sep 18 2010, 04:33 PM

I see no light emanating from the hole if there is a inner sun within. Sometimes I wonder if there is really a hole why it is so difficult just to take direct unambigious pictures of huge bright lights pouring forth into the night sky from ground below. It should be visible at night hundreds of kms away .... Oh, the hole covers itself up at night

This post has been edited by SpikeMarlene: Sep 18 2010, 05:17 PM

The two pictures of the earth above. There's so much clouds, I am not 100% sure where we're looking at. Looks a bit like the west coast of North America. If you mean the circular thing near the top of the picture, it is unfortunately not on the north pole. From where California is on the picture, the storm looks to be centered on the northern part of Russia. Quite a long distance from the North Pole.



The link before that to http://www.physorg.com/news90171847.html

If you mean the the white circle at the center. That's not a hole. They just didn't map it.



Seismic readers are called seismographs. They don't have to be big. They're passive devices. They mostly measure earthquakes. The data is used to map the interior of the earth, as explained in the article you quoted.

Detectors don't have to be big to perceive large objects. For instance, my eyeball measures only about 3cm, yet I can see the moon and the sun, which are very big.

Just to make sure, you're talking about a big void in the center of the earth right? One that measures thousands of km (earth's diameter is about 12,000km). Not puny little caverns just 20m across.

BTW, if the big hole in the center of the earth is only 2000km across, you're going to have to cross 5000km of rock to reach it. Not a distance you want to walk. Remember that you've to carry all your food and water. (The distance from New York to Los Angeles is only 4000km).

LOL
this news is totally unrelated to ur argument.
again ==
the title of this news is '3-D model shows big body of water in Earth's mantle'
indeed you are so cute ScrewBallX. =)

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Letter from expedition

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ExpeditionUpdate15.htm

okay okay.
would you mind doing something more meaningful and constructive rather than wasting your time here on something that is not going to get you any benefit?

Example?

What

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Added on September 18, 2010, 10:15 pmExample?

This post has been edited by ScrewBallX: Sep 18 2010, 10:15 PM

TS must be from inner earth. Ya, bring me there!

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In the 1950's Prof Hapgood came up with the Pole Shift idea. He believed that since the polar ice caps were continually increasing in size (and weight) that this might cause the Earth to tilt on its side. Since the polar ice caps are unevenly distributed in both the Arctic and Antarctic (e.g. Greenland which lies on one side of the Arctic), he believed that a point would be reached where the centrifugal force of this uneven distribution would cause the Earth to tilt over. Albert Einstein was very impressed with this idea just prior to his death.

I have wondered if the recurrence of ice-ages might be better explained by way of Pole Shift theory. The North Pole was once located in Wisconsin, USA. Similarly, the South Pole was once located in what is now the Sahara desert. The poles have shifted a great many times. But was this because continents were slipping and sliding hither and thither across the face of the Earth or is it that the entire Earth shifted?

It is fashionable these days to blame the extinction of the dinosaurs on comet strikes. The extinction of the dinosaurs was not a one-time event. Indeed, multitudes of species became extinct a great many times. There have been many biological extinctions in the history of our small planet. In the 1980's some scientists conducted a study of these extinctions and discovered to their amazement that there seemed to be a regular pattern to them. Their results were published in Science. These extinctions seemed to occur approximately every 26 million years. What could cause this? The problem with comet strikes is that they are destructive in the sense that the comet/meteor which does the deed is itself annihilated in the process. It is almost absurd to expect comets to strike the Earth with a fixed periodicity. Could it therefore be that something else is at work - something here on Earth for example?

One scientist, D. E. Loper, noticed a correlation between biological extinctions, magnetic reversals, climate change and other geological phenomenon. A number of scientists have noticed a correlation between magnetic reversals and biological extinctions and have written papers about this. Could it be that biological extinctions are also caused by the Earth itself undergoing upheavals of an internal origin?

I do not doubt that comets and meteors must indeed have fallen on the Earth in the past. There is considerable and irrefutable evidence of cometary strikes. And very possibly some of these strikes wiped out large numbers of animal species. However, it is a different thing to say that all biological extinctions are caused by comets. And it is here where these studies of periodicity come into their own. It might even be that the Earth itself is unstable and that it is the main cause of most biological extinctions over and above those caused by comets.

It would seem as if magnetic reversals coincide with other things including an increase in volcanic activity. Could it therefore be that Pole Shifts are the driving factor here? Magnetic reversals might be nothing more than a record of past Pole Shifts. And if the Earth moved physically (because of some weight redistribution), it is entirely possible that this triggered volcanic activity and earthquakes on a vast scale which then destroyed large numbers of animals.

There may also be evidence of rapidly rising land which perhaps builds new continents. Velikovsky pointed to the large number of Zeuglodons (an extinct prehistoric whale) found in Alabama and the Gulf States. Could it be that what was once sea-bed suddenly rose to become dry land? Could this be caused by a Pole Shift?

I have given the Pole Shift idea a special place in Hollow Planet theory. Let's suppose, as per the deep quake evidence inside of the Earth is not as hot as scientists presume it to be. This being the case one would expect water to flow deep inside the Earth. Such water may create tunnels and cavities. There may even be vast oceans of water inside the Earth. Thus, unbeknown to us on the surface there may be an ongoing redistribution of mass going on inside the planet all the time. Perhaps one day some of these cavities become weakened by tremors or by their increasing size and perhaps some of them collapse. This might then cause an entire continent above to then sink into the sea. And perhaps the compressed underground ocean forces other land to rise elsewhere. Gravity may also play a role in this. If gravity is affected by electric currents inside the Earth then this may also help to trigger a rise and fall in land on the surface of the Earth.

In recent years some scientists have been thinking seriously about the Pole Shift concept and some papers have been written about it. Their term for it is "Polar wandering".

One also finds various evidence in the polar regions suggesting that the climate there was much hotter. Was that because the Earth as a whole was hotter or because the polar regions actually lay near the equator?

Dodwell, an Australian astronomer, studied gnomons from around the world. He determined that they had indeed been reorientated within the last few thousand years and that a Pole Shift had occurred within human history.

Finally, I point to the inclinations of all the planets. All the planets are aligned differently. Even though all the planets formed at the same time and rotated in the same direction we find that they are all inclined differently. Venus for example is actually upside down (i.e. retrograde rotation), while Uranus is lying on its side. In fact, I have seen suggestions by some scientists that Pole Shifts may have occurred on the Moon and Mars. Could it be that Pole Shifts are actually endemic to all Hollow Planets and that they are constantly reorientating themselves due to internal mass redistributions which we know nothing of?


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A few of my sources for this chapter:

Kennett, J. P., and Watkins, N. D.; “Geomagnetic Polarity Change, Volcanic Maxima and Faunal Extinction in the South Pacific”, Nature, 227:930, 1970.
Hays, James D.; “Faunal Extinctions and Reversals of the Earth’s Magnetic Field”, Geological Society of America, Bulletin, 82:2433, 1971.
“Earth’s Magnetism Does Correlate with Climate”, New Scientist, 77:848, 1978.
Kelly, Allan O., and Dachille, Frank; “Prehistoric and Modern Lakes”, Target Earth, Carlsbad, 1953, pg 172.
“The Age of the Bolivian Andes”, Geographical Record, 4:59, 1917.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70612084458.htm

"Scientists currently define Earth's center in two ways: as the mass center of solid Earth or as the mass center of Earth's entire system, which combines solid Earth, ice sheets, oceans and atmosphere. Argus says there is room for improvement in these estimates."

Argus argues that movements in the mass of Earth's atmosphere and oceans are seasonal and do not accumulate enough to change Earth's mass center. He therefore believes the mass center of solid Earth provides a more accurate reference frame.

"By its very nature, Earth's reference frame is moderately uncertain no matter how it is defined," Argus said. "The problem is very much akin to measuring the center of mass of a glob of Jell-O, because Earth is constantly changing shape due to tectonic and climatic forces. This new reference frame takes us a step closer to pinpointing Earth's exact center." - sciencedaily

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"The Biggest Crash on Earth: India Slides Under Tibet, but How?"

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/...00916145129.htm

This post has been edited by ScrewBallX: Sep 19 2010, 10:24 AM

That must have been long in coming, with references dated as far back as as nearly a hundred years. Where is the evidence say within these 10 years? Why it is so difficult to get direct evidence of a hole as big as a state? Maybe because it does not exist? That would simply explain why after all these years, it still remains alive only on paper and web pages.

There is no theory of the universe; events cannot be predicted beyond a certain extent but occur in random and arbitrary manner. - Stephan Hawking.




After years of waiting for the Sun to illuminate Saturn’s North Pole again, cameras aboard NASA’s Cassini spacecraft have captured the most detailed images yet of the fascinating hexagon shape crowning the planet.

The new images of the hexagon, whose shape is the path of a jet stream flowing around the North Pole, reveal concentric circles, curlicues, walls, and streamers not seen in previous images.

NASA’s Voyager spacecraft had last captured the visible-light images of the entire hexagon nearly 30 years ago. After the sunlight faded, darkness engulfed the north pole for 15 years, and much to the delight and bafflement of Cassini scientists, the location and shape of the hexagon in the latest images match those they saw in the Voyager pictures.

“The longevity of the hexagon makes this something special, given that weather on Earth lasts on the order of weeks,” said Kunio Sayanagi, a Cassini imaging team associate at the California Institute of Technology.

“It’s a mystery on par with the strange weather conditions that give rise to the long-lived Great Red Spot of Jupiter,” he added.

The hexagon was originally discovered in images taken by the Voyager spacecraft in the early 1980s. It encircles Saturn at about 77 degrees north latitude and has been estimated to have a diameter wider than two Earths. The jet stream is believed to whip along the hexagon at around 100 meters per second.

Early hexagon images from Voyager and ground-based telescopes suffered from poor viewing perspectives. Cassini, which has been orbiting Saturn since 2004, has a better angle for viewing the North Pole. But, the long darkness of Saturnian winter hid the hexagon from Cassini’s visible-light cameras for years.

However, infrared instruments were able to obtain images by using heat patterns. Those images showed the hexagon is nearly stationary and extends deep into the atmosphere. They also discovered a hotspot and cyclone in the same region.



This post has been edited by ScrewBallX: Sep 19 2010, 11:00 AM

Look at the first article above, the part that has been put in bold. It say solid earth, not hollow earth.

Next article in you've posted is related to plate tectonics. There's no way plate tectonic would work with your hollow earth theory unless the continental plates can float on air inside your hollow earth.

You've just disproved the hollow earth theory again. Do you even bother to read and understand what you've posted?

To get evidence on the hollow earth theory and a gaping hole as big as a large city on earth, you need to go to saturn or jupiter to take some pictures? Amazing!