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post Sep 15 2010, 10:05 AM

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Assuming that this internal sun is running on regular fusion that's used by the sun, we'll have a ball consisting mostly hydrogen at a very high temperature surrounded by an atmosphere that contains oxygen. Last that I've heard, a hydrogen and oxygen mixture is very flammable and a fusion reaction is more than enough to spark an ignition. The resulting fireball will consume all available oxygen molecules. Any oxygen breathing organism would be dead in such an environment due to lack of breathable oxygen. The same goes for any combustion based machinery like airplanes as well.
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 15 2010, 10:19 AM)

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Question would be ..

1. How much hydrogen and oxygen to make an explosion?
2. "The resulting fireball will consume all available oxygen molecules". If you look at the Sun, its still burning .. Without Oxygen.
3. What if .. like earth, there is an ozone layer on the inner sun. Earth have magnetic poles and ozone layer. What if.. ozone in the inner world are much higher?
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1. Based on this information on hydrogen, a hydrogen fire can start at 4% of the total mixture. Based on this information about the sun, it is close to 75% hydrogen by mass. Plenty of hydrogen to go around for a continuous fire.

2.A normal fire burn in a process called combustion to release energy. The sun doesn't really burn, it under goes a process called nuclear fusion to release energy. One is a chemical reaction,the other a nuclear reaction.

3.What does ozone have to do with all this? Ozone isn't used in respiration. It is even harmful when it comes in direct contact with living creatures. Ozone doesn't have anything to do with magnetic fields, it is created in a reaction between oxygen gas and ultraviolet light. Ozone is also flammable so it doesn't protect against combustion.
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 15 2010, 10:55 AM)
WHat we know is from the surface of the earth and all that we have come across. Could this hollow earth be something we cannot explain yet until we encounter it? Just like neytiri in Avatar.

Maybe the people living in hollow earth do not live like us. They could depend on some kind of machine or their genetic code mutated for them to adapt there.
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The problem with this theory is that none of the visitors from the surface would have survived their visit since they are not prepared for this environment in the first place.
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post Sep 15 2010, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 15 2010, 11:01 AM)
And still they keep making new discoverys under the deep sea... the deeper they go, new fishes can be found.

They have explanation regarding this.. By our records, people on those ancient days have said to live about hundred of years.
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We're talking about humans here, they don't spontaneously mutate features to survive a different environment instantaneously. Drop a person in those environment, he'll be more or less dead immediately. Just because a species can live in a hostile environment, doesn't mean that you can.

While this already out of topic, do you have links to these so called records about people living for hundreds of years?
This says otherwise.
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 15 2010, 12:18 PM)
Wiki - "Life expectancy is the expected (in the statistical sense)". Sound like a theory. But my Great grandmother is 105 years old.. where would that put her?
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There's a section on centenarian on the page that I've shown. They are not an impossibility. People living hundreds(200+) of years on the other hand are undocumented. You specifically said hundreds of years.

After rereading your post, did you mean to say they are a lot of people living to hundreds of years or living to pass a hundred in the past? If you were referring to people living to around a hundred, they've always been around. Based on the link I gave in that post, there's even more people living to pass a hundred these days compared to the past. It doesn't prove anything.

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post Sep 15 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 15 2010, 01:56 PM)
Statisticly taken is most commonly life expected in our time. We all know there are some people living above hundred nowadays but in the past it could be longer than that, no one is there to document how long they can live, its not like us today. 
And i do say "Hundred of years" not "HundredS of years".
In another word, there's nothing to back up your statement where you mentioned about records of people living longer in the past.

It wasn't specified clearly in that post but what does people living longer in the past prove?
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post Sep 15 2010, 04:11 PM

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The planet Venus and Mars doesn't seem to support your theory about size of planets and rotational speed. Based on this, venus' mass is about 0.815 of Earth's mass and Mar's mass is 0.107 of Earth's mass. Earth is bigger than both of these 2 planets. Mars is much smaller than Venus. A Venusian day is about 243 earth days while a Martian day is about Earth 1 days.
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post Sep 15 2010, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 15 2010, 10:56 AM)
I laugh at your small impact craters and present to you-The Giant Impact Hypothesis. The shortened version of this theory is that the moon was formed when a Mars sized object collided with the earth. An impact that size is bound to deform or create a hole in the side of the planet if it was hollow.

Seeing as how the moon has 0.01 the mass of earth and Mars is around 0.1 the mass of earth, the earth gained mass in the violent exchange. This would have resulted in a lop sided mass distribution on the planet which destabilize your rotating hollow sphere.
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post Sep 15 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 15 2010, 07:06 PM)

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I laugh at you Giant Impact Hypothesis. Wouldnt it knock earth out of orbit?
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Based on this, most of the energy from the impact was converted to angular momentum which increased the speed which the planet was revolving instead of linear momentum which would have altered the movement of the planet through space..

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post Sep 16 2010, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 16 2010, 08:24 AM)
I should not bother by it cause a lot of theads going around this and other forum are also garbage. So why dont you little kids run along and open your  quantum mechanics shop theads and explain repeated science to all of the people in this forum, i guess theres no one or a little people care going in to your theads. Like i said, There is a lot of people who are like you who prefer logical explanation or "I believed it when i see it" type. But all scientice made theory but when prove otherwise they research and re-study it again.

Why do i need a spell checker for ? Do i need to attend spelling exam? Do i get point for spelling it right? Other TS have bad grammar and wrong spelling, that doesnt bother anyone.
Seriously, you should get a life. Looks like you need more attention.
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If you are not supposed to use logical explanations to explain something, how do you prove your theory is correct? Spam pages and pages of stuff so that people agree with you just to shut you up or wait until no one care about the thread anymore so that you can declare yourself the winner. If you don't want to have a discussion, don't post your stuff on a forum.

The part about science where a theory can be disproved is what makes science great. Wrong information can be removed.

What is a quantum mechanic shop?


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post Sep 16 2010, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 16 2010, 10:18 AM)
again you dont understand what a scientific theory mean. please read on its definition.
you have not evidence to support hollow earth except some fairy tale story that are not authenticated, while thousand of scientist have been to research mission in both pole, none of them notice a gapping hole in the ground.
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Fun fact about the Arctic polar cap, this submarine actually went under it and passed the North Pole.
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post Sep 16 2010, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Sep 16 2010, 11:58 AM)
Dude, there's no hole in the north pole. That sub went under the ice caps. thats all. the sea bed had no hole to go into the hollow world  doh.gif
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I didn't mention anything about a hole there in that post, did I? I only mentioned about the sub going under the polar cap and passing the north pole.
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post Sep 16 2010, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Sep 16 2010, 11:58 AM)
Dude, there's no hole in the north pole. That sub went under the ice caps. thats all. the sea bed had no hole to go into the hollow world  doh.gif
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It is related, you've already stated what I wanted to convey biggrin.gif and if someone wanted to say that the hole can be opened and closed, the sea water rushing in will cause the world's sea level to drop.
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post Sep 17 2010, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 17 2010, 10:32 PM)

Coordinate for hole has been said at 87.7N lat, 142.2E long (2.3 Degree from pole). But mind you there are occurance at the north pole. From sea level, mirage can be seen and also it has been said that the magnetic pole can tamper with the compass and electronic stuff.

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Mirages are not rare. All you need to get one is layers of air with different temperature for it to happen. With the North Magnetic Pole in the area, no magnetic compass will work correctly. These are naturally occurring phenomenas that has nothing to do with your so called hole.

What's is the purpose of showing off such a large map? It doesn't show anything relating to you so called hole at all.
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post Sep 19 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 19 2010, 10:02 AM)

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70612084458.htm

"Scientists currently define Earth's center in two ways: as the mass center of solid Earth or as the mass center of Earth's entire system, which combines solid Earth, ice sheets, oceans and atmosphere. Argus says there is room for improvement in these estimates."

Argus argues that movements in the mass of Earth's atmosphere and oceans are seasonal and do not accumulate enough to change Earth's mass center. He therefore believes the mass center of solid Earth provides a more accurate reference frame.

"By its very nature, Earth's reference frame is moderately uncertain no matter how it is defined," Argus said. "The problem is very much akin to measuring the center of mass of a glob of Jell-O, because Earth is constantly changing shape due to tectonic and climatic forces. This new reference frame takes us a step closer to pinpointing Earth's exact center." - sciencedaily


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"The Biggest Crash on Earth: India Slides Under Tibet, but How?"

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/...00916145129.htm
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Look at the first article above, the part that has been put in bold. It say solid earth, not hollow earth.

Next article in you've posted is related to plate tectonics. There's no way plate tectonic would work with your hollow earth theory unless the continental plates can float on air inside your hollow earth.

You've just disproved the hollow earth theory again. Do you even bother to read and understand what you've posted?
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post Sep 19 2010, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(KeNGZ @ Sep 19 2010, 11:25 AM)
ah btw i can find the satellite of north and south pole easily on the net.
when it comes to the time to utilize internet for good use you just abused it.
google earth doesn't have it, this doesn't mean no one on this world has no image of the poles.
and, there's no such holes, or else it would be the greatest discovery of the millennium.


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I see u used the link i gave u,

but as usual u abused all the information.
haha I have nothing more to say.


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just pasting irrelevant stuffs again.
this thread is like rojak. ==
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Given the number of irrelevant post by the TS, I doubt this thread will remain open when the moderators are notified.
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post Sep 19 2010, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 19 2010, 12:41 PM)
Now, People Anywhere around the world and you know that Earth is Alive.
Under the Law of Nature. How many living thing can you find which is solid from the inside ?
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There's plenty of single cell organisms that are not hollow inside.

There's no comparable living creature to the planet so this generalisation doesn't work at all.


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post Sep 20 2010, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 20 2010, 09:06 AM)
Actually, before the movies there are also stories for the old days regarding the "City of Heavens", Chinese in Tibet know it as "Shangri-La" or "Shamballa" and most of nearly all the folk stories are usually the same in different country. Now, how did the story of this underground city is known to all past people? All of them heve different version of city but the same location.. Underground !
But if i were to go there, and could find the hole to inner world. Would i come back and tell you all? The stories states many intresting thing about the inner world.

1.) people goes in there can live longer "Forever".
2.) Technologies are Advance.
3.) No war, Violance and etc.
4.) Will never go hungry.
5.) More relaxed
6.) Everything is free.
7.) Can visit other planets. ( Tour guide to other planets)
8.) Human potential capability "Telepathic" or other is higher.

If everyone know the hole and the stories is true. Ill bet you 100% from India to Africa and other poor nation of poverty and war will go there to seek refuge. So the USA will lose power over almost everything. No people will want to live on the surface anymore. Control MUST be INFORCE !! USA !!
But in Kota Kinabalu, people did spot UFO there but where did it come from? Its going to space meaning there should be a passage way under the Mount Kinabalu via Sea shore line. Just like in Sarawak Caves, there are 180 miles of tunnle system with a large space in it.
Believe it or not, it depends on people..
Like people believe in Solid Earth same as people believed in Hollow Earth and some FLAT EARTH !!! Link to flat earth : http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/i...hp?topic=1324.0
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And with this post, we now know the motivation for the TS' obsession with this particular subject. A heaven on earth where the only entrance condition is being able to get there. Unfortunately Shangri-La is a work of fiction created in the 1930s and Shambhala which Shangri-La is based on has a karma related entry method. There's no mention of these places as being underground.
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That's explained somewhere within the 13 pages of text. Something about centrifugal force keeping the structure stable.

The reason why this thread expanded to such a length is due to the thread starter's faith that there exists a paradise within the planet. A place where people don't get sick, old and such. Since he doesn't have the means to prove such a thing, he hoped to get more believers so they can start an expedition to find this place and live there. The thread more or less died after that was pointed out.

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QUOTE(CDP @ Jan 1 2011, 04:11 PM)
Look at the design LYNN.The space is on outside and inner side of the globe so the pressure is equal.The mass of the crust has its own gravity  and inner sun which definitely much denser own gravity.

In primordial time of formation of any planet there were gases and elements rotating and centripetal and centrifugal forces at work.Heavy elements remained at center forming the core,lighter elements were expulsed off that center due centrifugal force.On those lighter elements however at work also centripetal or gravity force of heavy center core.At some distance from the center those two forces were equal opposite where the lighter elements were imprisoned and formed the crust.The forces of rotation on those lighter elements were least in the axis and no elements were imprisoned there and holes were formed.
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The are a couple of holes with your theory on pressure maintaining the structure of your hollow earth. Have you seen a balloon hold it's shape if its opening was not sealed? You have a hole at each of the planet's poles.

Centrifugal force may explain how a hollow structure can be maintained. It can't explain how it can form a hollow shell. While it is possible for elements to enter a stable orbit around a forming planet, it is very unlikely in this case for a few reasons.

The item orbiting the planet would have to have an exact velocity at a perpendicular angle to the planet. Too slow and it falls into the planet. Too fast and it leaves orbit. Have the wrong angle, the item will either fall onto the planet or fly into space. The odds of entering a stable orbit isn't that good.

In a forming planet, the mass of the planet increases overtime. Items previously in orbit will fall into the planet as their velocity will not be sufficient to provide the centrifugal force needed to remain in orbit. This will add more mass to the planet. Resulting in more items falling out of orbit and so on. As the planet continues to get larger, it starts having an atmosphere as its gravity is capable of holding gas molecules on it surface. An atmosphere causes air friction to anything that moves within it. This results in more items falling onto the planet.

The Sun or stars are made of hydrogen. The lightest element in the universe. Based on the reasons above, hydrogen would probably be the last elements to be captured by a planet. This makes it very unlikely for the planet to have a core made of hydrogen. No hydrogen, no mini sun.

Naturally occurring mini suns don't exists for a reason. A star can only have a fusion reaction if its gravity is sufficient to cause hydrogen atoms to fuse. You can fill around a hundred earth inside our sun. Gas giants like Jupiter have the necessary elements for a star but it's still not big enough for fusion to occur.

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