QUOTE(xDingx @ Feb 20 2011, 09:22 PM)
that's y i say at least pug, pug is not that big size wat
n pug oso consider as toy breed
sorry, out of topic
Pug's full grown size is bigger than a poodle's.sorry, out of topic
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Feb 20 2011, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 10 2011, 07:21 PM) On bathing them, don't bath too often yet. They are too young and if not careful, water can go into their lungs through nose and can cause fatality. The best way is to bath them in a basin or a bucket. Fill the water with warm water(not too hot n cold) up to his chest level.wet him first and apply his shampoo on the sponge and wipe him thorough from tail to head. When rinsing him with water, use ur hand to block his nose before u rinse his face part. Make sure you bath him fast as he might catch a cold if too long. When he is older, you can bath him from shower head (warm) and u need to comb him during shower. Thanks for the advice. He'd taken his 2nd bath during the weekend quite well !Hope I help this round and there's no way any can help based on ur previous question. Will try to help if I can. Share a pic of ur pup, introduce to us. Now please meet Biibii,Male, D.O.B 22/11/2010, 0.98KG ! He'd just taken his 2nd vaccination yesterday and doctor says he's gotten a yeast infection in his ears and now he has to put on this medicated lube named "Oridermyl" once a day for a week long. I read somewhere that his food Eukanuba Puppy Small Breed may have assisted in accelerating yeast infection and i plan to change it. Read on dogfoodanalysis.com about Orijen but i also taken note that in the review, it says that high protein contents in orijen would make them grow huge (which me and bii's mummy do not wish to) and therefore not suitable for small breed. Any thoughts on food that can keep him small and not sacrificing his health as well as my wallet? One headache i have with ah bii now is that he goes all around and lick/bite whatever he can find. He swallowed a small piece of cotton while we were sleeping in the mid night but thank god he released the cotton together with his poo the next day. Imagine that now i mop the floor almost every other day fearing that he would have licked some foreign dirt again. I also have problem toilet training him as he goes around and poo/pee around. There was one day i successfully to get him to pee/poo on the tray by giving him snacks but it seems he forgotten all the next day. Lastly, the pet shop told me that his MKA cert have not arrived but he already has microchip implanted. I called MKA yesterday and they confirmed that his microchip serial number is inside their record but they couldn't say when the cert can be delivered. I also try to confirm with MKA that Biibii is a toy poodle and not just normal poodle (quite a number of my friend go cheated this way by pet shop), but the receptionist was a bit blurred and she simply answer me yes This post has been edited by fx_53_xt: Feb 20 2011, 10:27 PM |
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Feb 21 2011, 09:46 AM
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@fx_53_xt: Messi food starts with Iskhan and later changed to Artemis. Iskhan is a bit hard to find, but I think Iskhan control their size better. I changed to Artemis as nobody have actually heard about Iskhan that time. Artemis cost only about RM42 for puppy and you can get 10% if you are members of The Pets Family (Taman Megah, Kepong Village Mall and few more).
On licking and bite, you need to give him a watch. Just monitor him for the next few days(better friday night to sunday full day) closely and say 'NO' when he is biting and licking something. Give him his toy then(suppose to let him play with his toy). When you cannot keep a sight of him, cage him up and do your stuff. Over the 3 days, he will know that biting and licking things other than his toy are wrong. But don't stop after that 3 days ya... Keep on watching him. Ah Bi is still young and can forget easily. He is too young to be roam freely though. On toilet train. After every meal, bring him to the spot you want him to poo and pee. Only let him leave the spot after he is done with his business. Praise him like no tomorrow when he did the right things and give him some treats. If he pee at the wrong spot, it's either you want to scold him by saying 'NO' or give him a pat. Mine the 2nd one... Lol... A friend of mine advice, you should scold him on instance when they pee and poo not 1 minutes later where they do not know why they are scolded (short memory for puppy). Wipe off the pee and spray a repellent on the wrong spot to avoid him going back to the same spot. You may want to use a training aid spray but I find it useless for messi. On MKA, it takes about 7months from the day I brought him home to receive it. I just got his last month. SO, no worries. Feeding is important to ensure he won't grow into miniature. And you need to teach him from young so he is more obedient. Btw, messi is not allowed to go on my bed, sofa and anything human sits on. This is to train them to let them know despite we love them, they are still dog and to avoid them have the thoughts that they are your master. You can PM me anytime if you need urgent advice. At least I can notice your PM on my blackberry. |
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Feb 21 2011, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 21 2011, 09:46 AM) Btw, messi is not allowed to go on my bed, sofa and anything human sits on. This is to train them to let them know despite we love them, they are still dog and to avoid them have the thoughts that they are your master. i know u hv ur own way of loving messi...but i sorta 'terasa' with ur sentence there. DOes messi get to come out of his bag inside ur car? |
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Feb 21 2011, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 21 2011, 09:46 AM) @fx_53_xt: Messi food starts with Iskhan and later changed to Artemis. Iskhan is a bit hard to find, but I think Iskhan control their size better. I changed to Artemis as nobody have actually heard about Iskhan that time. Artemis cost only about RM42 for puppy and you can get 10% if you are members of The Pets Family (Taman Megah, Kepong Village Mall and few more). I plan to change to these few brand:Artemis fresh mix small breed RM42 (4star, 28%, 17%, 48%) (4) Acana puppy small breed RM56 (5star, 37%, 19%, 36%)(2) Avoderm puppy RM39 (4star, 29%, 11%, 52%) (1) Orijen Puppy RM65 (5star, 42%, 18%, 32%) (5) Now Puppy RM87 (4star, 28%, 18%, 45%)(1) I have a complete post about my food concern over in the food thread. QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 21 2011, 09:46 AM) He is too young to be roam freely though. roam freely simply means i don't lock him in cage. My living room isn't that big anyway and most of the time he stay in my study room on the bed while i'm working. (i don't mind ah bii sleeping on my bed xD)QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 21 2011, 09:46 AM) On MKA, it takes about 7months from the day I brought him home to receive it. I just got his last month. SO, no worries. Feeding is important to ensure he won't grow into miniature. And you need to teach him from young so he is more obedient. Btw, messi is not allowed to go on my bed, sofa and anything human sits on. This is to train them to let them know despite we love them, they are still dog and to avoid them have the thoughts that they are your master. It takes 7 months for the cert to arrive ? You can PM me anytime if you need urgent advice. At least I can notice your PM on my blackberry. Btw, when you say "feeding is important to ensure he wont grow into miniature", mind to elaborate on that? Currently i am feeding him 3 times a day (8am-2pm-8pm), each time a spoon full mixed with warm water till they soften. I'm also giving him vitamin gel three times a week. This post has been edited by fx_53_xt: Feb 21 2011, 01:49 PM |
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Feb 21 2011, 02:35 PM
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hi fx, woo so nice your poodles can roam freely, wont cause any accident pee or poo around th bed or floor? im damn worry as the poodle will pee or poo on the matters.. sure going to be a headache to wash especially in condo, limited space to sun dry the stuff also.. so now i left him at play pen with its cage too , to train him pee poo in the cage ><"
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Feb 21 2011, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 21 2011, 01:06 PM) i know u hv ur own way of loving messi...but i sorta 'terasa' with ur sentence there. DOes messi get to come out of his bag inside ur car? ooopsss... sorry sorry... haha.... I said that so they won't get overboard... I learnt this from one of the site. Added on February 21, 2011, 2:43 pm QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 21 2011, 01:37 PM) I plan to change to these few brand: each spoon full = teaspoon or tablespoon? Mine at that time should be only quarter milk powder spoon x 2 times only. Started with half spoon. Just feel the tummy, as long as he is not too small (just slightly smaller than the rib) he should be full.Artemis fresh mix small breed RM42 (4star, 28%, 17%, 48%) (4) Acana puppy small breed RM56 (5star, 37%, 19%, 36%)(2) Avoderm puppy RM39 (4star, 29%, 11%, 52%) (1) Orijen Puppy RM65 (5star, 42%, 18%, 32%) (5) Now Puppy RM87 (4star, 28%, 18%, 45%)(1) I have a complete post about my food concern over in the food thread. roam freely simply means i don't lock him in cage. My living room isn't that big anyway and most of the time he stay in my study room on the bed while i'm working. (i don't mind ah bii sleeping on my bed xD) It takes 7 months for the cert to arrive ? Btw, when you say "feeding is important to ensure he wont grow into miniature", mind to elaborate on that? Currently i am feeding him 3 times a day (8am-2pm-8pm), each time a spoon full mixed with warm water till they soften. I'm also giving him vitamin gel three times a week. This post has been edited by yeowa: Feb 21 2011, 02:43 PM |
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Feb 21 2011, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(JXplod @ Feb 21 2011, 02:35 PM) hi fx, woo so nice your poodles can roam freely, wont cause any accident pee or poo around th bed or floor? im damn worry as the poodle will pee or poo on the matters.. sure going to be a headache to wash especially in condo, limited space to sun dry the stuff also.. so now i left him at play pen with its cage too , to train him pee poo in the cage ><" To my surprise, he never pee/poo on the bed. He would pee/poo every time i brought him down to my living room. If he's too urgent, you can see he'll run nervous on the bed. Guess what, even when he sneeze, he would go to the edge of the bed where there's nothing around and sneeze into air. And i never trained him to do all this !QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 21 2011, 02:37 PM) each spoon full = teaspoon or tablespoon? Mine at that time should be only quarter milk powder spoon x 2 times only. Started with half spoon. Just feel the tummy, as long as he is not too small (just slightly smaller than the rib) he should be full. i use the chicken rice plastic spoon, the one chicken rice hawker give you when you tapao chicken rice. One spoon full x3 a day. That's too much i guess? The first time i visited the vet during CNY, the vet told me he was starving |
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Feb 21 2011, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 21 2011, 02:58 PM) To my surprise, he never pee/poo on the bed. He would pee/poo every time i brought him down to my living room. If he's too urgent, you can see he'll run nervous on the bed. Guess what, even when he sneeze, he would go to the edge of the bed where there's nothing around and sneeze into air. And i never trained him to do all this ! It;s good he has his own good ways of doing things...sometimes no need to teach wan.. reinforce on these good habits (not peeing in bed, u understand his cue...etc) |
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Feb 21 2011, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 21 2011, 02:58 PM) To my surprise, he never pee/poo on the bed. He would pee/poo every time i brought him down to my living room. If he's too urgent, you can see he'll run nervous on the bed. Guess what, even when he sneeze, he would go to the edge of the bed where there's nothing around and sneeze into air. And i never trained him to do all this ! good behaviour... i use the chicken rice plastic spoon, the one chicken rice hawker give you when you tapao chicken rice. One spoon full x3 a day. That's too much i guess? The first time i visited the vet during CNY, the vet told me he was starving If the spoon is the small one, should be ok I guess. But very hard to tell. How is his poop? One poop per meal? If always got more than one, then he is overfed... |
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Feb 21 2011, 05:08 PM
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normally one poop per meal. occasionally there will be two but that rarely happens
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Feb 21 2011, 06:17 PM
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so nice nia~ mine i think he get the idea wrong d, the cage now become his resting area, whereas he pee or poo outside the cage.. lol now i need to revers put the new paper on floor. finger cross today see how it goes. btw does your poodle drink little water too? mine it seem drink less water.
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Feb 21 2011, 08:50 PM
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I'm newbie to handle poodle, I bot her from KL to Penang when she was 14 weeks old.
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Feb 21 2011, 09:46 PM
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woo charming little guy, just want to ask you guys, your poodle pup eat alot ma? with chicken n rice or with lamb and rice, mine seem like dont like lamb or the taste too strong for him, going to try mix other brand of food n c.
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Feb 22 2011, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(joan.lin @ Feb 21 2011, 08:50 PM) I'm newbie to handle poodle, I bot her from KL to Penang when she was 14 weeks old. Nice ur poodle, 4 to 5 months baby fur will changing to poodle hair, is good time to trim short but don botak for new hair will grow more thick. I like that shirt is gals & fren look so sportyNow she going to celebrate her 4 months old birthday :-) ![]() |
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QUOTE(JXplod @ Feb 21 2011, 06:17 PM) so nice nia~ mine i think he get the idea wrong d, the cage now become his resting area, whereas he pee or poo outside the cage.. lol now i need to revers put the new paper on floor. finger cross today see how it goes. btw does your poodle drink little water too? mine it seem drink less water. yeah, he drinks lesser than when he just came home previously. What i did is i add lots of water with his kibble. For some reason, my ah bii for sure have to drink all the water before he start chewing his kibbleQUOTE(JXplod @ Feb 21 2011, 09:46 PM) woo charming little guy, just want to ask you guys, your poodle pup eat alot ma? with chicken n rice or with lamb and rice, mine seem like dont like lamb or the taste too strong for him, going to try mix other brand of food n c. mine wallop anything he can find. whether its food or not. QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 21 2011, 09:46 AM) @fx_53_xt: Messi food starts with Iskhan and later changed to Artemis. Iskhan is a bit hard to find, but I think Iskhan control their size better. I changed to Artemis as nobody have actually heard about Iskhan that time. Artemis cost only about RM42 for puppy and you can get 10% if you are members of The Pets Family (Taman Megah, Kepong Village Mall and few more). Bought Artemis from Pets Family just now for RM42. There was only 2 packs left and that made me worried as someone has mentioned about unstable supplies of Artemis could sometime leads to total shortage.Visited Pets Lover Center later and they have lots of them. They even have Iskhan that you mentioned, Fish4dog and some other rare brand but it was too late as i already bought Artemis. This post has been edited by fx_53_xt: Feb 22 2011, 02:54 AM |
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Feb 22 2011, 07:42 AM
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hi fx how does artemix food? and your poodle respond? i plan to get 1 pack today and mix with pro best, hope that my poodle can increase his intake, seem abit skinny can feel the abdomen chest bone, but today eating happily also.
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QUOTE(JXplod @ Feb 22 2011, 07:42 AM) beside artemix, which brand of food you suggest also? You may refer to below linkhttp://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/best-dog-foo...st-puppy-foods/ Added on February 22, 2011, 8:46 am QUOTE(Kelvenwai @ Feb 22 2011, 12:27 AM) ... is good time to trim short but don botak for new hair will grow more thick. I like that shirt is gals & fren look so sporty Ya... ya... I don't likes her to become botak, which I feel ugly.Trim short, means cut to very short? Bingo! The shirt is from Gals & Fren This post has been edited by joan.lin: Feb 22 2011, 08:46 AM |
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Feb 22 2011, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 22 2011, 01:37 AM) yeah, he drinks lesser than when he just came home previously. What i did is i add lots of water with his kibble. For some reason, my ah bii for sure have to drink all the water before he start chewing his kibble You didn't apply for the membership ah? Member can get 10% discount and the amount paid can be converted into points that can be used as a discount to future purchase. I know PLC got Iskhan, just I don't feel like continuing Iskhan. Lol... mine wallop anything he can find. whether its food or not. Bought Artemis from Pets Family just now for RM42. There was only 2 packs left and that made me worried as someone has mentioned about unstable supplies of Artemis could sometime leads to total shortage. Visited Pets Lover Center later and they have lots of them. They even have Iskhan that you mentioned, Fish4dog and some other rare brand but it was too late as i already bought Artemis. |
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QUOTE(JXplod @ Feb 22 2011, 07:42 AM) hi fx how does artemix food? and your poodle respond? i plan to get 1 pack today and mix with pro best, hope that my poodle can increase his intake, seem abit skinny can feel the abdomen chest bone, but today eating happily also. It was midnight when i'm back and therefore ah bii doesn't have the chance to try out his new artemis. I will start changing gradually today but i believe the hungry ghost that lives inside will take this without problem.beside artemix, which brand of food you suggest also? After doing two full day of research, i narrowed down to this 5 : QUOTE Artemis fresh mix small breed If your poodle exercise a lot and you want to build its body faster, you probably should be looking at higher protein% such as Orijen instead of Artemis. If you have time, pay a visit to the dog food thread as it helps a lot in making my decision.-reasonable pricing -surprisingly good ingredient list -one of the few high ranked food with <30% protein Acana puppy small breed -higher protein content -huey80 commented acana causes tear stain in poodle Orijen Puppy -Best rated food -sky high protein content Iskhan -recommended by quite a few forumer including yeowa -exact ingredient not clear, i cant even google it out cause its korean brand -not many retailer has it. So far i've only seen in PLC Now Puppy -The priciest among all -Despite the high price, there's 2 red-flagged ingredient in dogfoodadvisor, and only 1 meat product in first 5 ingredient -another high ranked food with <30% protein QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 22 2011, 09:22 AM) You didn't apply for the membership ah? Member can get 10% discount and the amount paid can be converted into points that can be used as a discount to future purchase. I know PLC got Iskhan, just I don't feel like continuing Iskhan. Lol... I did, but the cashier said i can only user the membership card on my next purchase |
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