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post Feb 22 2011, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 22 2011, 09:26 AM)
It was midnight when i'm back and therefore ah bii doesn't have the chance to try out his new artemis. I will start changing gradually today but i believe the hungry ghost that lives inside will take this without problem.

After doing two full day of research, i narrowed down to this 5 :

If your poodle exercise a lot and you want to build its body faster, you probably should be looking at higher protein% such as Orijen instead of Artemis. If you have time, pay a visit to the dog food thread as it helps a lot in making my decision.

I did, but the cashier said i can only user the membership card on my next purchase  doh.gif
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Hungry ghost? So familiar... Messi also the same... Lol...

Nvm, next purchase quite worth it also... Can be used for grooming also... I groom messi there. smile.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 22 2011, 09:26 AM)
If your poodle exercise a lot and you want to build its body faster, you probably should be looking at higher protein% such as Orijen ...
Support! Orijen.
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post Feb 22 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 22 2011, 09:26 AM)

After doing two full day of research, i narrowed down to this 5 :

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One of it being Iskhan...

A small reference here : http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/...k~1/9441~1.aspx

Based on my personal experience or knowledge, the following ingredients r questionable

1. beet pulp : a by-product & potentially cause tear stains in poodles

2. Chitosan : this term reminds me of those slimming products human take to lose weight - dunno if this applies to dogs. Maybe that's y breeders promote this brand to keep their pups in shape. I rber a kibble supplier fren told me that many breeders feed this brand to their pregnant females so that they can produce smaller pups.

3. CHinese herbs : such as?? ginseng? wats the function?

4. menadione vitamin K : controversial ingredient; man-made vit K


NO matter wat ppl say abt the goodness of Orijen and it can be fed to poodles which r active (u hv to be very active to work off 40% protein lo...), i have YET to see or know a small-sized or a real TOY size poodle that is on this brand.

If u know one adult toy poodle who has been taking Orijen since puppyhood, pls show me so that i'll hv a broader view on Orijen.
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 22 2011, 12:49 PM)
One of it being Iskhan...

A small reference here : http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/...k~1/9441~1.aspx

Based on my personal experience or knowledge, the following ingredients r questionable

1. beet pulp : a by-product & potentially cause tear stains in poodles

2. Chitosan : this term reminds me of those slimming products human take to lose weight - dunno if this applies to dogs. Maybe that's y breeders promote this brand to keep their pups in shape. I rber a kibble supplier fren told me that many breeders feed this brand to their pregnant females so that they can produce smaller pups.

3. CHinese herbs : such as?? ginseng? wats the function?

4. menadione vitamin K : controversial ingredient; man-made vit K
NO matter wat ppl say abt the goodness of Orijen and it can be fed to poodles which r active (u hv to be very active to work off 40% protein lo...), i have YET to see or know a small-sized or a real TOY size poodle that is on this brand.

If u know one adult toy poodle who has been taking Orijen since puppyhood, pls show me so that i'll hv a broader view on Orijen.
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hmm.....just for my opinion since im fed my shnauzer w Orijien brand ard 5mths. so far she r so heathy n w/o any sickness. as normal im bring her out of garden walked two times dairy. so i cant felt anything different to me especially her body shape. but on tis mth w CNY bring them back hometown or may be she less of excersice (stay in house). im can totally felt tat her weight increase a lot ,dunno y ...just one week...it is too high protein for Orijien brands can make them fat? now im change other brand w less of protein de coz im may consider thier future ..now she young is ok but when getting old?
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:49 PM

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well i feed mine with orijen from 4th-8th months then change to Anf ...
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 22 2011, 12:49 PM)
One of it being Iskhan...

A small reference here : http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/...k~1/9441~1.aspx

Based on my personal experience or knowledge, the following ingredients r questionable

1. beet pulp : a by-product & potentially cause tear stains in poodles

2. Chitosan : this term reminds me of those slimming products human take to lose weight - dunno if this applies to dogs. Maybe that's y breeders promote this brand to keep their pups in shape. I rber a kibble supplier fren told me that many breeders feed this brand to their pregnant females so that they can produce smaller pups.

3. CHinese herbs : such as?? ginseng? wats the function?

4. menadione vitamin K : controversial ingredient; man-made vit K
NO matter wat ppl say abt the goodness of Orijen and it can be fed to poodles which r active (u hv to be very active to work off 40% protein lo...), i have YET to see or know a small-sized or a real TOY size poodle that is on this brand.

If u know one adult toy poodle who has been taking Orijen since puppyhood, pls show me so that i'll hv a broader view on Orijen.
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Messi's breeder no longer use Iskhan loo... But I see very obvious changes in him when change from Iskhan to Artemis. Anyway, that was my mistake in not able to measure properly... Lol... Iskhan 3 spoon is artemis 1.5 or 2 spoon. My bad... smile.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 22 2011, 09:32 AM)
Hungry ghost? So familiar... Messi also the same... Lol...
Nvm, next purchase quite worth it also... Can be used for grooming also... I groom messi there. smile.gif
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Initially when i brought him home i thought i was underfeeding, starving him and i increased his portion of meal. Then slowly i realize it seems like all poodle puppy behave like this and i stop increasing his portion.
Pet family charge RM30 for basic grooming right? I think the groomer near my house is cheaper at only RM20. There's even an auntie who offer me on-site grooming at my house for RM20 thumbup.gif

QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 22 2011, 12:49 PM)
One of it being Iskhan...

A small reference here : http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/...k~1/9441~1.aspx

Based on my personal experience or knowledge, the following ingredients r questionable

1. beet pulp : a by-product & potentially cause tear stains in poodles

2. Chitosan : this term reminds me of those slimming products human take to lose weight - dunno if this applies to dogs. Maybe that's y breeders promote this brand to keep their pups in shape. I rber a kibble supplier fren told me that many breeders feed this brand to their pregnant females so that they can produce smaller pups.

3. CHinese herbs : such as?? ginseng? wats the function?

4. menadione vitamin K : controversial ingredient; man-made vit K
NO matter wat ppl say abt the goodness of Orijen and it can be fed to poodles which r active (u hv to be very active to work off 40% protein lo...), i have YET to see or know a small-sized or a real TOY size poodle that is on this brand.

If u know one adult toy poodle who has been taking Orijen since puppyhood, pls show me so that i'll hv a broader view on Orijen.
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The problem with researching and reading online is everyone has their own controversial opinion about one same topic with no one's argument being supported by any proper scientific research/proof. Its not like anyone knows for exact where did the 40% protein actually goes to. Therefore i think for the moment i am satisfied with my choice of Artemis that has moderate amount of protein with no controversial ingredients. Cheers. nod.gif

QUOTE(aileyteo @ Feb 22 2011, 01:28 PM)
hmm.....just for my opinion since im fed my shnauzer w Orijien brand ard 5mths. so far she r so heathy n w/o any sickness. as normal im bring her out of garden walked two times dairy. so i cant felt anything different to me especially her body shape. but on tis mth w CNY bring them back hometown or may be she less of excersice (stay in house). im can totally felt tat her weight increase a lot ,dunno y ...just one week...it is too high protein for Orijien brands can make them fat? now im change other brand w less of protein de coz  im may consider thier future ..now she young is ok  but when getting old?
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No matter what brand you feed, i think 5 months is too short to tell anything. If a dog food can cause your dog to develop serious problem in 5 months, it must be made from toxic rolleyes.gif
And again, even for dogs who develop illness after 10 years time, we wont know for sure too if its the food who's causing the problem. There's just too much environmental factor involved.

Bottom line, make a rational judge yourself and go for the brand trusted.

QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 22 2011, 01:50 PM)
Messi's breeder no longer use Iskhan loo... But I see very obvious changes in him when change from Iskhan to Artemis. Anyway, that was my mistake in not able to measure properly... Lol... Iskhan 3 spoon is artemis 1.5 or 2 spoon. My bad... smile.gif
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does that means messi grows faster by feeding artemis?

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post Feb 22 2011, 02:28 PM

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does that means messi grows faster by feeding artemis?
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I don't know... Could be my feeding portion not right lor... I am noob and messi is my first furkid.
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post Feb 22 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Feb 22 2011, 01:49 PM)
well i feed mine with orijen from 4th-8th months then change to Anf ...
Err... may i know y? Price issue?
I'm from ANF to Orijen... the breeder feeds all his poodle with ANF.
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post Feb 22 2011, 06:05 PM

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wahahaha sipek happy, after seeing you guys say the artermix is a good 1, so i just bought a pack for my max furkid, seem like he love it much with the mixing and the different flavour of rice and lamb... oh my really spoil him ><"
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post Feb 22 2011, 07:15 PM

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Hi All, recently My 1 years old Toy Poodle fur keep dropping.....May i know what cause this?
I didn't feed her any human food......Please help.....
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post Feb 22 2011, 07:18 PM

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hi han, better see vet , cause fur drop alot of factor play into it, since your already 1 years old. better be hurry rather than late. since we all love our fur kid ^^
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post Feb 22 2011, 07:31 PM

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HI!!! i have a 1 year 5 months Toy poddle named Tobey.. he is supposed to be a red poodle but now seems faded.. haha.. and how do i properly toilet train him?
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post Feb 22 2011, 08:57 PM

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hi guys, i just wonder does any1 organised poodle gathering? like going to any park in the evening or morning, so we can socialized our fur kid with each other. just wondering. hope to hear from other poodles owner too cheers
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post Feb 22 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(han12345 @ Feb 22 2011, 07:15 PM)
Hi All, recently My 1 years old Toy Poodle fur keep dropping.....May i know what cause this?
I didn't feed her any human food......Please help.....
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it's most prob changing to adult coat...


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QUOTE(JXplod @ Feb 22 2011, 08:57 PM)
hi guys, i just wonder does any1 organised poodle gathering? like going to any park in the evening or morning, so we can socialized our fur kid with each other. just wondering. hope to hear from other poodles owner too cheers
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we usually go to Desapark city in bandar manjalara. Join us in FB so we can discuss further. SOme of us r goin this Sat morning.

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post Feb 22 2011, 11:07 PM

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oh sure. ooo this sat morning a seem great, ill arrange my time see whether can make it ma. ok i already join the club which part should i enter for discussion ^^ ?
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post Feb 22 2011, 11:35 PM

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What time is it? Can I go without bring a poodle?
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Feb 22 2011, 11:35 PM)
What time is it? Can I go without bring a poodle?
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post Feb 22 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(JXplod @ Feb 22 2011, 11:07 PM)
oh sure. ooo this sat morning a seem great, ill arrange my time see whether can make it ma. ok i already join the club which part should i enter for discussion ^^ ?
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ohh..welcome welcome...just post sth on the wall...we will join in


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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Feb 22 2011, 11:35 PM)
What time is it? Can I go without bring a poodle?
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LOL...Debbie..Chris here...come join us la..

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post Feb 23 2011, 12:01 AM

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