QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 22 2011, 09:32 AM)
Hungry ghost? So familiar... Messi also the same... Lol...
Nvm, next purchase quite worth it also... Can be used for grooming also... I groom messi there.

Initially when i brought him home i thought i was underfeeding, starving him and i increased his portion of meal. Then slowly i realize it seems like all poodle puppy behave like this and i stop increasing his portion.
Pet family charge RM30 for basic grooming right? I think the groomer near my house is cheaper at only RM20. There's even an auntie who offer me on-site grooming at my house for RM20
QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 22 2011, 12:49 PM)
One of it being Iskhan...
A small reference here :
http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/...k~1/9441~1.aspxBased on my personal experience or knowledge, the following ingredients r questionable
1. beet pulp : a by-product & potentially cause tear stains in poodles
2. Chitosan : this term reminds me of those slimming products human take to lose weight - dunno if this applies to dogs. Maybe that's y breeders promote this brand to keep their pups in shape. I rber a kibble supplier fren told me that many breeders feed this brand to their pregnant females so that they can produce smaller pups.
3. CHinese herbs : such as?? ginseng? wats the function?
4. menadione vitamin K : controversial ingredient; man-made vit K
NO matter wat ppl say abt the goodness of Orijen and it can be fed to poodles which r active (u hv to be very active to work off 40% protein lo...), i have YET to see or know a small-sized or a real TOY size poodle that is on this brand.
If u know one adult toy poodle who has been taking Orijen since puppyhood, pls show me so that i'll hv a broader view on Orijen.
The problem with researching and reading online is everyone has their own controversial opinion about one same topic with no one's argument being supported by any proper scientific research/proof. Its not like anyone knows for exact where did the 40% protein actually goes to. Therefore i think for the moment i am satisfied with my choice of Artemis that has moderate amount of protein with no controversial ingredients. Cheers.
QUOTE(aileyteo @ Feb 22 2011, 01:28 PM)
hmm.....just for my opinion since im fed my shnauzer w Orijien brand ard 5mths. so far she r so heathy n w/o any sickness. as normal im bring her out of garden walked two times dairy. so i cant felt anything different to me especially her body shape. but on tis mth w CNY bring them back hometown or may be she less of excersice (stay in house). im can totally felt tat her weight increase a lot ,dunno y ...just one week...it is too high protein for Orijien brands can make them fat? now im change other brand w less of protein de coz im may consider thier future ..now she young is ok but when getting old?
No matter what brand you feed, i think 5 months is too short to tell anything. If a dog food can cause your dog to develop serious problem in 5 months, it must be made from toxic
And again, even for dogs who develop illness after 10 years time, we wont know for sure too if its the food who's causing the problem. There's just too much environmental factor involved.
Bottom line, make a rational judge yourself and go for the brand trusted.
QUOTE(yeowa @ Feb 22 2011, 01:50 PM)
Messi's breeder no longer use Iskhan loo... But I see very obvious changes in him when change from Iskhan to Artemis. Anyway, that was my mistake in not able to measure properly... Lol... Iskhan 3 spoon is artemis 1.5 or 2 spoon. My bad...

does that means messi grows faster by feeding artemis?
This post has been edited by fx_53_xt: Feb 22 2011, 02:06 PM