so close yet so far... 60-90 days for BD wor... by then everybody will be thinking, "hmmm... maybe i should wait for ivy bridge"

2012 Will come out Trinity APUs
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The further Delay of BD only means the performance is going to be a disappointment. Phenom 1 is delayed, so are Nvidia Fermi 400 series. IMO it doesnt look good for AMD.

and Thread to thread performance wise, it is going to loose to Intel. Multi core is rather pointless especially software are not taking advantages of it. by the look of it having more lower performance cores doesnt seems to appeal me.

I'll like to have a 5Ghz dual core TDP 125w CPU, where is that? Doesnt exist.

where got bulldozer APU? AFAIK bulldozer is CPU!...

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Added on June 1, 2011, 8:08 pmOIC... trinity basically is bulldozer core+ grafix rite?

This post has been edited by adie82: Jun 1 2011, 08:08 PM

haha, this is good for gamer.
yea, should be.

The thing is BD is a server CPU first then consumer CPU second. BD was made to offer more cores than Intel as a solution to Intel's HT. As to why AMD wants to offer more cores is because BD is targeted at the enterprise market that does a lot of virtualization that according to what AMD believes is a good target for them. Even on the server side there are some situations that are suited for Intel and AMD separately. At the enteprise level, having more cores is never a disadvantage, the same applies for Intel.

Canned software or whatever software you buy or illegally download cannot make good advantage of more cores than what they are programmed for but customized software that are not commonly used by average user at all can handle the extra because they are customized to take advantage of it. OpenCL is a good step to further take advantage of multiprocessing but its going to take time for software developers to make them.

If you're strictly a gamer then you can just settle for how many cores the game may support. Having a quad core at least is a better choice than a dual core especially if multitasking. Try using a single core now and you'll know what I mean, have to wait a task is completed before another task can be executed. If you really want a powerful dual core that overclocks like mad then get the Core i3 2120K if it ever comes out.

Yeah. Bulldozer is the CPU codename.

still no news on the amd BD?

next year... counter for ivy bridge

see the picture:

quite frankly if it isnt Intel do not come out the i3-2120k that priced at half of 2500K(@ Jan 2011) I would have get 2120k instead of 2500k. (Since I will be ending up using Ivy bridge, 2500K is pretty much my "temporary" CPU)

You mentioned about single core performance, but there is a huge difference between a single core and a dual core on everyday task(window environment) because you went from single to multitask, but the performance between dual and quads diminished smaller. and there are quite a number of softwares, (for me personally) only make use of dual cores and they have no plans of getting quad cores support because of the complexity involves in recoding/scheduling assignment for 4 cores. Thats the suck part unfortunately

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 2 2011, 10:04 AM

Prepare some money to get a new mobo too.
Some mobo are unable to support it, up to manufacturer.

From this I can see that u r never a gamer lols @.@

Bulldozer officially delayed,will be 60-90 days late.

expected

The price of the Core i3 2120K is not even half of the Core i5 2500K and from what I've heard the Core i3 2120K is just a 4 core binned CPU with 2 disabled to give headroom for the other 2 to overclock. The Core i5 2500K is still the better buy. I'm not too sure how much performance gain IB will be but may not be a lot. Performance/watt will increase no doubt which is really the key focus of Tri Gate. So actually you can be satisfied with the Core i5 2500K already and upgrade something else like a fast SSD if you don't have one currently.

You mentioned that your software doesn't take advantage of quad cores but I'm talking about multitasking which refers to running multiple different programs at the same time that would take advantage of a quad. Lets just say you're running 2 of the programs that you mentioned simultaneously. So if 1 of your programs can only make use of 2 then that means you can run 2 at the same time. As for the case of your Core i5 2500K, if 2 cores are occupied with the program that you run then you have 2 more cores to use for browsing or watch a movie while you wait for it to complete(if it takes hours).

Maybe the stepping is an issue but some people suggest that AMD is production capacity constrained since GloFlo has to manufacture Llano to meet the demand leaving no slot to manufacture Bulldozer.

Why not get a SB now?

Still goes back to the same thing, I cant improve my dual core the performance. The are a whole lot of reason why Intel/AMD implement Turbo core. Apparently the implementation of turbo core on the newer Intel/AMD CPU architecture are better but it is not really significant enough to make up the difference. Take 2500K as example, 3.3GHz to 3.7Ghz isnt really revolutionary

The way the software make for muli-core is limited to how many cores it written for.

I cant take a 2 threaded application and get a huge performance increase on a 4 core CPU. It is not like GPU.

You're not going to get a huge turbo just because Intel is selling a quad core as a dual core. You can overclock a Core i5 2500K as much as a Core i3 2120K because all SB processors have a max ceiling. No doubt the Core i3 2120K is marketed for the overclocker but it will still be sold with a lower TDP compared to a Core i5 2500K. The Core i5 2500K has the same TDP, as a Core i5 2500 despite the latter does not have an overclocking feature.

Since Turbo Boost is based on the processors TDP, you're not going to get huge boost (0.8-1GHz) than If you're really serious moving from your current Core i5 2500K to a Core i3 2120K then I would consider that a downgrade rather than an upgrade. Keep your Core i5, it will serve you well.

Didnt really say about downgrading, just that I am going after absolute dual core performance. Going Ivy bridge is probably my main reason behind this too.

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Added on June 2, 2011, 7:54 pmMSI 990FXA-GD80


This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jun 2 2011, 07:54 PM