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Terran Strategy discussion V 1.0, The Last Mankind on Galaxy
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evofantasy
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 Sep 24 2011, 05:16 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 24 2011, 04:55 AM) Guys im a playing Terran, JessieBoy nick here. im currrently keep getting pummeled/giving easy win to protoss players wif their 4 gates proxy pylon warp in timing push... i keep getting rushed at 6.45-7.00 mins mark....with like 7-9 stalker and 3-4 zealots.... at that time i can only churn out 5-6 marines wif 3-4 marauders, wht more wif increasing barrack built time rite now....its almost impossible to early harrass a protoss..... can any of you guys suggest a good buillt order, unit composition, replays? i have been training more than 1 week experimenting with differnt built but mostly not effective against this. Help neded 2 bunkers with SCV repairing... once u hold the 4 gate, the protoss is dead as 4 gate is an allin... any build which u are doing? u would need bunkers vs 4 gate (unless u are bitbybit-ing him lol)... |
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max_cavalera
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Sep 24 2011, 05:52 AM
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so far i've not figure out any specific win proof built vs protoss, so i usually 3 racks marine n marauder... i got 70-85% win rate TvT, 55%-70% wins against zerg... but i thnik less than 20% chances vs protoss players... protoss unit r quite high hp n shields.... they can warp instantly n by the time colossus went out wif their deathball arrmy they just roll over my units easily.. i try to early thor, repairing scvs with mass marine it seems barely just able to withold those rush....
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SiewKaiz
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Sep 24 2011, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 24 2011, 05:52 AM) so far i've not figure out any specific win proof built vs protoss, so i usually 3 racks marine n marauder... i got 70-85% win rate TvT, 55%-70% wins against zerg... but i thnik less than 20% chances vs protoss players... protoss unit r quite high hp n shields.... they can warp instantly n by the time colossus went out wif their deathball arrmy they just roll over my units easily.. i try to early thor, repairing scvs with mass marine it seems barely just able to withold those rush.... something is not right here~ |
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jeffvip
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Sep 24 2011, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 24 2011, 04:55 AM) Guys im a playing Terran, JessieBoy nick here. im currrently keep getting pummeled/giving easy win to protoss players wif their 4 gates proxy pylon warp in timing push... i keep getting rushed at 6.45-7.00 mins mark....with like 7-9 stalker and 3-4 zealots.... at that time i can only churn out 5-6 marines wif 3-4 marauders, wht more wif increasing barrack built time rite now....its almost impossible to early harrass a protoss..... can any of you guys suggest a good buillt order, unit composition, replays? i have been training more than 1 week experimenting with differnt built but mostly not effective against this. Help neded Unless in Tal Darim, put ur bunker on the high ground. I found 1 little trick to repair faster. Set 5 of your scv(s) near your bunker as No.1. Set auto-repair. Once Protoss rush come in, press 1 and move scv to the bunker asap. High ground with scv repair should make this push defendable. |
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SiewKaiz
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Sep 24 2011, 10:41 AM
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terran can def 4gate with eyes closed~ ps: never succeed 4gate terran  |
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drakeria
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Sep 24 2011, 12:28 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Sep 24 2011, 10:41 AM) terran can def 4gate with eyes closed~ ps: never succeed 4gate terran me too  |
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SiewKaiz
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Sep 24 2011, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(drakeria @ Sep 24 2011, 12:28 PM) me too the only matchup i can 4gate is only pvp n immortal buff make it hard to 4gate even pvp |
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FLampard
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Sep 24 2011, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Minerva3 @ Sep 24 2011, 03:00 AM) seem like a good idea, maybe should take some note of Liquid TLO nuke play you dun nuke when he has nothing at hand u nuke only when there is a distraction, he wont have the attention to find ur ghost |
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jeffvip
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Sep 24 2011, 07:13 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Sep 24 2011, 02:27 PM) you dun nuke when he has nothing at hand u nuke only when there is a distraction, he wont have the attention to find ur ghost talking bout nuke. I havent launch a single nuke in ladder yet |
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quest_5692
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Sep 24 2011, 07:51 PM
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not sure if i had but probably no. there are so expensive and the damage is so low...
Added on September 24, 2011, 7:51 pmu cant kill alot of stuff wif only 1 nuke....cant even 1 shot tanks. dun think can 1 shot supply depot too :?
This post has been edited by quest_5692: Sep 24 2011, 07:51 PM
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pepsi89
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Sep 24 2011, 08:26 PM
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Getting Started
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u can defend a 4 gate with one base by building 1/2 bunker behind the supply depots which are blocking ur ramp, then u will have enough time to react and send scvs to repair
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FLampard
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Sep 24 2011, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Sep 24 2011, 07:13 PM) talking bout nuke. I havent launch a single nuke in ladder yet i used nuke and nuke only and win games ( against bronze league opponents) |
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jeffvip
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Sep 24 2011, 09:57 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Sep 24 2011, 09:33 PM) i used nuke and nuke only and win games ( against bronze league opponents) share those replay out  |
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SiewKaiz
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Sep 24 2011, 11:02 PM
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some1 nuke me b4~ but he ternuked his own army and leave the game~  |
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drakeria
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Sep 24 2011, 11:58 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Sep 24 2011, 11:02 PM) some1 nuke me b4~ but he ternuked his own army and leave the game~ 1A for the win!! Ops, it's for the lose. LOL |
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jeffvip
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Sep 25 2011, 11:32 AM
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Getting Started
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hello mech player here, any tips to defeat MMM in TvT? something is not right here, is mech play reserve for true professional? Using MMM in TvT sounds so evil to me since the day Polt use bio to defeat MMA. I would never use MMM in TvT.  |
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quest_5692
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Sep 25 2011, 11:51 AM
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ummm, watch TLO stream, he use mech in tvt.
smtg like this.
proxy rax, expand behind it with 2 factory pumping hellions.
fast starport for vikings.
fast 3rd OC (35-50 food), either proxy or just inside ur base.
then thor. u need thor and hellion in early-mid to survive, tanks are too immobile and not that good in small number. then only slowly transition into tanks.
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jeffvip
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Sep 25 2011, 12:45 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Sep 25 2011, 11:51 AM) ummm, watch TLO stream, he use mech in tvt. smtg like this. proxy rax, expand behind it with 2 factory pumping hellions. fast starport for vikings. fast 3rd OC (35-50 food), either proxy or just inside ur base. then thor. u need thor and hellion in early-mid to survive, tanks are too immobile and not that good in small number. then only slowly transition into tanks. i did watch TLO n Jinro stream. both of them can do an incredible defense. normal ppl (like me) find it hard to that kind of defense while opponent's MMM just need to 1 A T... haha. How can somebody not love TvT? |
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FLampard
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Sep 25 2011, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Sep 24 2011, 09:57 PM) share those replay out You know some players at bronze are like totally noobish one but there are also a lot of very pro players at bronze league, sometimes i lose to them also you know i am skeptical how did these pro players that deserve to be at least at platinium end up at bronze, must be someone rigged the division placement... |
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SiewKaiz
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Sep 25 2011, 02:42 PM
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blizzard very fair 1~ eventhough those pro wanna smurf but after 4-5 games they will b promoted
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