spam storm? u sound like it is easy to land a storm that can hit everything
Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.
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 Dec 12 2011, 12:36 AM
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Dec 12 2011, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ Dec 12 2011, 01:36 AM) spam storm? u sound like it is easy to land a storm that can hit everything early game it isn't viable bro. yeah its correct a small mobile composition MMM army can stim and outrun that. but when it gets to mid to late game both army count is very huge and covers a big ground area. a storm on those massive army of course will hit them, and would b decider of the game. thank god lov lvl ladder i don't encounter yet toss that plays HT, just normal gateway and colo unit. |
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Dec 12 2011, 12:48 AM
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again, u sound like it is easy to land a storm that can hit everything
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Dec 12 2011, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ Dec 12 2011, 01:48 AM) again, u sound like it is easy to land a storm that can hit everything i dun believe it either man, but after watching pro toss player Protonwira and sungin precise controls and fast reaction, it just make me realize HT are in no way weak.  |
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Dec 12 2011, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 11 2011, 11:08 PM) in balance discussion, anything which does what it suppose to do (ie to counter something) against ur race is OP... afaik storms are T2, or 2.5 if you wanna count the stupid upgrading as a tieri mean T3 storm killing MM is imba... MM suppose to be able to hold even T3 aoe units... marines are suppose to be the best unit in the game... Added on December 12, 2011, 12:57 am QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 12 2011, 12:00 AM) not only bio, even viking, medivacs, thor even tanks also cant outmanouvered all those storm carpet spams... lol i think almost any competent toss does that. cuz lots without charge = free killAdded on December 12, 2011, 12:08 am erk. hope fxoboss can upload those or ask keretapir to cast and upload it to youtube. pretty epic match. i only seen 1 zerg in this tourney... mostly all are terrans and protoss players. thrs 1 built done by protonwira i think dat impress me. he research charge for zealot even before warping in a single zealot...lol. but it sems to be the best upgrade for toss IMO. what i seen that shred both prosilkworm and timber terran player to pieces is chargelot, good placement of forcefield, HT spam storm, feedback fully loaded medivac drop, sparring some army at their base to defend drop... and when T can't drop they group a deathball army for final battle, all die to storm spam....thats pretty much summar5ize all toss vs terran semi final and final(ops final its PvP) match for FXO Open...  This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 12 2011, 12:57 AM |
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Dec 12 2011, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 12 2011, 12:55 AM) afaik storms are T2, or 2.5 if you wanna count the stupid upgrading as a tier how to get storm: gate -> core -> council -> templar -> stupid storm upgrade which is another gas sink + super long time (unlike emp)Added on December 12, 2011, 12:57 am i think almost any competent toss does that. cuz lots without charge = free kill storm does damage overtime over a small radius (same radius as emp now btw, emp used to be bigger than storm radius)... super slow HT not to mention... amulet removed (ghost still maintain their upgrade)... if storm are nt suppose to counter MMM i wonder what is the protoss counter to MMM lol |
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Dec 12 2011, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 12 2011, 01:52 AM) i dun believe it either man, but after watching pro toss player Protonwira and sungin precise controls and fast reaction, it just make me realize HT are in no way weak. Since when were HT weak? |
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Dec 12 2011, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2011, 01:01 AM) how to get storm: gate -> core -> council -> templar -> stupid storm upgrade which is another gas sink + super long time (unlike emp) i heard f10 -> n is supposed to counter MMMstorm does damage overtime over a small radius (same radius as emp now btw, emp used to be bigger than storm radius)... super slow HT not to mention... amulet removed (ghost still maintain their upgrade)... if storm are nt suppose to counter MMM i wonder what is the protoss counter to MMM lol |
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Dec 12 2011, 07:41 AM
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its not easy to carpet storm terran, terrans now put ghost infront then scan the protoss to snipe HT. suddenly, those expensive HT all die in split second.
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Dec 12 2011, 12:21 PM
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it is EZ 2 storm when u load those HT in the WP, sungin did it once vs timber, no way u can place a good storm if your HT is walking behind your army (cuz they are always slow) or even land one storm cuz it would be sniped or emped when the ghosts are there, this hypothesis is assuming the terran is well aware of his army and is not macroing anything ATM
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Dec 12 2011, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ Dec 12 2011, 12:21 PM) it is EZ 2 storm when u load those HT in the WP, sungin did it once vs timber, no way u can place a good storm if your HT is walking behind your army (cuz they are always slow) or even land one storm cuz it would be sniped or emped when the ghosts are there, this hypothesis is assuming the terran is well aware of his army and is not macroing anything ATM Yup gt we saw what happened when u tried tat vs Korean pros. Hero n MC were the 2 toss who did it in tournaments and they got rolled over when puma etc snipe the prism especially when there are viking. Still very good approach as ht are just so slow and or prevent emp. |
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Dec 12 2011, 03:11 PM
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lol i normally see whitera using HT WP during big engagement and he didnt get his WP sniped cuz most of the time he was going chargelot archon, so there is no point for the terran to get viking..so it is quite safe i would presume
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Dec 13 2011, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2011, 01:01 AM) how to get storm: gate -> core -> council -> templar -> stupid storm upgrade which is another gas sink + super long time (unlike emp) imbalosus~ shred any ground unit any racesstorm does damage overtime over a small radius (same radius as emp now btw, emp used to be bigger than storm radius)... super slow HT not to mention... amulet removed (ghost still maintain their upgrade)... if storm are nt suppose to counter MMM i wonder what is the protoss counter to MMM lol |
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Dec 13 2011, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Dec 13 2011, 08:24 AM) imbalosus~ shred any ground unit any races 2 base imbalosus got timing window wo....got period of time no real unit at ground. terran 1 rax FE normal bio poke also rape adi. |
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Dec 13 2011, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Dec 13 2011, 09:13 AM) 2 base imbalosus got timing window wo....got period of time no real unit at ground. terran 1 rax FE normal bio poke also rape adi. oh reality. |
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Dec 24 2011, 10:51 PM
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IMO . so as long as people have good mechanism . can do any build and beat any build they want . destiny mass queen proves that.
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Dec 25 2011, 12:52 AM
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ask destiny mass queen win immvp.
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Dec 25 2011, 12:57 AM
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i just can't win terran!
even with warp prism harress zealot archon ball get kited by marine marauder!! (with stim) (*note: i have no skill to control HT and storm, silver league only) I also have no answer for Marine + marauder + siege tank HELP! TERRAN BIO IS IMBA!  |
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Dec 25 2011, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(jayjay @ Dec 25 2011, 01:57 AM) i just can't win terran! FYI, i silver terran oso can't win against marine marauder tanks.... sumore if they have viking. just met a gold terran that fence/pagar his main and natural expansion with so many turret.....can't even drop. front base he put a few bunker and siege tank.... TvT make me scare now... even with warp prism harress zealot archon ball get kited by marine marauder!! (with stim) (*note: i have no skill to control HT and storm, silver league only) I also have no answer for Marine + marauder + siege tank HELP! TERRAN BIO IS IMBA!  |
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Dec 25 2011, 11:07 AM
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you can use the same army composition right?
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