half year ago, zerg is the easiest race to be beaten by me as i am a protoss user, cuz i always went 4 gates, but as i went higher in the diamond league, i found it difficult but still even if i went 4 gates my win rate was always more than 60-70%, but now i started to play again, i found zerg is the hardest race to be beaten by me, a protoss player, i either have to 4 gate or 3 gate expand, but my macro skill is lacking consider i cheesed my way to diamond league, so most of the time i go 3 gate expand i lose, what is your suggestion? what should i do after i 3 gate expand?

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Apr 10 2011, 05:20 AM

usually i play zerg with 3 gate 1 stargate, so it will be no problem when my phoenixes scout out a spire, while i pump more phoenixes depend how many muta he has, and this stargate serves good purposes for late game when you can supplement your colossi with voids rays to counter corruptors

if u dont have stargate, get a few sentries, more stalkers with blink and colossi, defend your base with blink stalkers until u get some colossi and push out, when engaged, guardian shield (greatly reduce muta attack) and forcefield around your army so the zeglings have no place to attack...but i am thinking also, what if i push until half way and my base got attack by the mutas, it seems that some canons cannot fend off a big balls of mutas. so i always stick will stargate in the beginning

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Added on May 13, 2011, 12:42 pmjust watched a game between socke and dimaga, mass phoenixes vs mass mutas, mass muta win :S

This post has been edited by pepsi89: May 13 2011, 12:42 PM

i think the win rate of protoss drops becuz the nerf of high templar, i think high templar is shit now

this http://twitpic.com/4sdkpv/full shows u fairness, if u consider the dropping of protoss winrate after high templar nerf is fair

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Added on May 13, 2011, 11:36 pmusually zerg who goes mutas will just spine crawlers up their entrance, with some speedlings waiting behind the spines to surround u once u reach the spine crawlers attack range..then mutas might fly in to help out, either mutas dont fly in or fly in, u would either lose your army or probes in that exchange, however, i still think your suggestion is good consider if u scout that spire early where he has less spines and lings to defend

This post has been edited by pepsi89: May 14 2011, 01:18 AM

good point, i forgot to mention sometimes they will hide speedlings somewhere else, like at the 3rd/4th expo kinda place, then flank u when u engage with the spine crawlers, i think i would just ff around my army in that case :S

protoss is the weakest race with the high templar nerf, i kinda like reduce build time for sentries tho to punish FE terran turtling with bunkers

smm 3v3 one?lol

thats not bad, once im getting near to top diamond, people started to 2 pronged canon rushes protoss (me), while im concentrating on timing and mechanics just to get warp tech a few more seconds earlier than opponent

This post has been edited by pepsi89: May 27 2011, 11:34 AM

just got promoted to master, apparently we are in the same division

i am positive i saw u in the division, btw, kelly milkies is in the the same division with me, lmao

u mean the photo? beside that photo, i think she is alright, i got beaten by her in a ladder match one sidedly...but now i climbed on top of her...u know, on top of her, btw congratz to your GM promotion

naniwa is just like mc, attention seeker spoiled kid

yea just go 4 gate but send 1 zealot to hit the stolen gas pretending u wanna get the gas but instead go all in, higher level zerg player would expect u to all in if u dont try to get the 2nd gas after he had stole the gas, by using this if u fail ur 4 gate u can still get ur 2nd gas and continue your game more easily

another option, get a 3 gate nexus without getting the 2nd gas, however u must deny the zerg scouting becuz the zerg usually expect u to all in if u dont send anything to attack the stolen gas. this will make the zerg under droning and lose in economy. well my suggestion may only work on higher league, cuz most lower league players just dont care about the mind game of starcraft, and now i feel like starcraft is just like poker

usually u can prevent the zerg player to steal ur gas if u have the 2nd gas earlier, well u would want it anyway to vs zerg so why delay it, if the zerg steals ur 2nd gas so early they would slightly lose in his economy so dont be too worry just try to get the 2nd gas if the drone gets any near of your 2nd gas

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Jun 29 2011, 07:45 AM

why do i have to be in a several of losing streaks after stopping playing for a week?

it doesnt mean anything cuz my skill now is as bad as 3 months ago, and the clan admins took really long time to accept as they were chatting in koreans about me and i felt so inferior that time

i think ladder is the only way i can practice, since there is not much ppl in my clan,

HEY GUYS, HOW TO BEAT CHARGE LOTS ARCHONS MIX IN PVP? i saw some ppl do this and i follow, really unbeatable if both players 1 base-ing, i think the only way is stalkers + colossi but this require 2 bases becuz these units are gas heavy, i can even think of carriers, but need 2 bases also..

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Jul 8 2011, 11:18 AM

sneak a hidden base is a good idea, hard to get 2nd base in pvp

no, 1 base can support charge lots and archons, but in a small amount, but that small amount is enough to kill u, i have lost to this a few time becuz i met this guy he 1 base all the way in pvp ladder


he always go dt 1st, during the time the darkshrine in warping in, he reseach charge with chrono
u can say a well executed 4 gate can kill him before he warps in dt, NO! he times his forge and canons so well that by the 4 gate hits, he has 2 canons just finished warping in at the front door, but he has only 2 zealot and 1 sentry by that time

well, i think blink stalker can counter this opening by blinking up and avoiding the canons, but this has to be executed very well also, by sending a zealot or blink stalker up the ram and spot the high ground then blink all my remaining stalkers up there is a good idea, just make sure the high ground scouter dont die so quickly, blink stalker is a better scouter consider when he has faster movement speed and when he is up the ram he can blink to an edge of his base and spot the high ground so that my stalkers can blink there as well, hopefully can find his dark shrine(if any) and snipe it real quickly

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Jul 8 2011, 10:57 PM

i tried before, he would just warp in a round of stalkes when he sees my void rays, and wrose, if my opponent got good scouting skill, when he scouted my stargate i gg alrdy


will try this often

FFs? for f***'s sake http://ffs.urbanup.com/4558