oops.. my bad. sorry bro. i live in italy so temps are kinda low.

however, even in summer when we get temps of 37°C, i never had temps go above 48°C on my lapped thermalright ultra extreme 120 previously. as a matter of fact, i have not seen temps above 50°C in the last year since i went btx and did some major cabling work on my insides. prior to that i had temps as high as 60°C. still not sure if the difference is due to the btx and rearrangement or just more careful implementation of everything.

still i am waiting for next summer to retest the system under higher amb temps.

save some for a few month, then u'll get it universal block can be use again if change gc, cheaper too. but full wb is better for aesthetic and cooling performance

no wonder its low. currently my idle temp 42c average, malaysia is hot, feel like want to wc myself

Upgrade like owikh84 using two pump ?

just a question, why would you want to use 2 pumps? just to separate the 2 loops?

u can use two pump in single or dual loop. using 2 pump usually when the setup have so many restriction( eg : cpu+full board block+sli or tri sli+2x480's rad in a loop) by right, it will increase the flow rate which will increase performance on the temps as well.

New Koolance Dual pump reservoir http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=260312

how bout 2 radiators with one pump and large,custom made reservoir,say taking up 3,4 5.25 bays?
will one pump be enough?

i think the answer to your question is that if you have one single pump that has a large enough head and flowrate, it should be sufficient.

my opinion is that if you have a single pump with a large enough head and flowrate, that should be sufficient for your entire system. otherwise as ezzydamvp says, if you have a full fledged water system for your entire board and all accesories included then a dual pump makes sense. but then again the benefits that you reap depends also on the efficiency of your entire system as a whole. my personal opinion is that if you build a well engineered system, you would not even need to go the way of the dual pump. keeping tubing to a minimum and heat dissipation maximum, you should be able to squeeze the maximum performance from a single pump system. but i am overly simplifying things here.

as additional info, although i am sure that it has already been posted before, but since i have time in my hand, just thought would share the links anyway for estimating flows and such;

the first link would be useful for newbs who would like to envision their system better.

http://extreme.outervision.com/flowdesigner.jsp

the 2nd link is to Skinee who does a good number of reviews of wc components in the market and his site contains good info.

http://skinneelabs.com/

and finally just want to attach a file that you guys might find useful. this is an excel sheet that allows one to estimate the total flow of the loop. its kinda outdated but unfortunately martin (the modern guru of wc from XS) has not been working on this for at least 2 years so i cannot find any further updates. if any of you find something newer, put it up for everyone's use.

This post has been edited by cyrixMII300: Oct 13 2010, 07:56 AM


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Hi, I am new to watercooling club. Special thanks to Mr Clawhammer for advising me on my first watercooled rig. Some pictures as following and appreciate any comments.




This post has been edited by Mini Nici: Oct 13 2010, 10:04 PM

nice..

can show more pics

concidence was just looking at this nzxt casing the other day and was wondering the potential.

so u replace the two 20cm fan with??

There is only 1 20 CM fan included. I mount the radiator at the top of the casing; thus, it can no longer fit the 20 CM fan. But I mount 2 12 CM fan on the radiator to blow away the heat dissipated at the radiator's fins.

hey, at what date did u get the aquagrafx WB?

About 2 weeks ago. Aquagrafx GTX460 WB.

@Mini Nici
nice setup bro...congrats!!!!

more pic on the internals please

also please use photobucket etc.

Why some ppl using aquarium pump for their water cooling ? Which one is more better ?

actually, during old time like P3, P4 era... most of WC kaki using aquarium pump, fittings from hardware shop, tube from hardware shop too...

because branded WC are still expensive and hardly get.. local ppl seldom bring in and less demand in local as expensive...

aquarium pump like nirox p series, u can find it in aquarium selling shop... now still selling it
u even can buy a submersible pump for your WC... that's y CUSTOM WATER COOLING we named it !!

but nowadays ppl get easily WC parts as our we fren bring in it credit goes to clawhammer and vladtheimpaler...

and ppls nowadays also take into considered about appearance of WC... (not like last time very ugly look)



are u going to take car brake fluid reservoir put in your rig?? better spend RM100 swiftech mcres for better look

This post has been edited by subrok007: Oct 15 2010, 06:34 PM

Swiftech MCRES Micro Revision just fill small amount of coolant fluid , for me I will go for bigger one like XSPC 5.25" Single Bay Reservoir . Which brand of tube is better and which size should I get , Koolance , Feser , Tygon and the size 3/4" , or 1/2" for inner diameter ?

before looking to buy any parts of WC, planning first.. where u going to put your radiator, reservoir, pump.
fyi, drive bay reservoir is not easy to fill coolant.

duralene, tygon & feser all is known branded tubing... Tygon black is expensive as well as feser... duralene is much cheaper....

yes most ppl here get 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD tube.. i also using that tube... duralene 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD

better draw out a layout plan indicate where u likely to put your parts... because this layout plan will help u get some idea how many angle or 45 degree fittings u need.....

dont look down swiftech mcres.. this reservoir much better than those drive bay reservoir in terms of bleeding performance...

This post has been edited by subrok007: Oct 15 2010, 06:58 PM

i dont know why...b4 this it's so hard for my loop to fully bleed inside my old casing (mount the rad outside the casing)

pump -> res -> cpu wb -> rad -> pump

see some turbulence inside the res(ek 100 res)

after change new casing (mount the rad on top of the case) and using the same WC setup i see no bubbles inside my loop anymore...

pump -> cpu wb -> rad -> res -> pump

no turbulence inside the res,water so calm(change to ek 250 res)

mybe the orientation of the loop effect the bleeding process??

This post has been edited by selfdz87: Oct 15 2010, 07:49 PM