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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Jones arrived, Diego leaving.OFFICIAL.

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boxsystem
post Aug 10 2010, 09:34 AM

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Kirdi consortium close to deal
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Aug 10 2010, 09:34 AM)
Kirdi consortium close to deal
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highly doubt kirdi will be the owner...he wont pass the first stage from premier league fit & proper test
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:41 AM

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I'm not sure if we could have afforded O'Neill at the time.

On the issue of Dirk Kuyt, I've always felt that he is most effective in an advanced position, where he plays for Holland, on the right side of a three-pronged attack. In the season before the last, he played there for a number of games and bagged a fair share of goals. Our current set up means he doesn't play in this best position for me.

Masherano may stay? Well that's a plus but I reckon he'll be off in January.

Is our team strong? It's pretty much the same team as last season with the additions of Cole and Jovanovic. I'm still uncertain about the Serb. Since we've lost Benayoun, I'm not sure if he's made our squad stronger. Cole maybe, if he stays fit but let's manage our expectations shall we? I've a feeling that after a few average games, posters will be changing their tune
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:56 AM

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o'neil is my first choice after rafa gone........ now free agent
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post Aug 10 2010, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(ic3johan @ Aug 10 2010, 09:56 AM)
o'neil is my first choice after rafa gone........ now free agent
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i cant imagine his monkey like over the top goal celebration can be tolerate in anfield though.. maybe i'm biased because i dislike him since forever it seems..

i prefer calm old timer manager tongue.gif

note: i LOLd so hard looking at him after torres scored last minute goal against his side last season. served him right
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post Aug 10 2010, 10:44 AM

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i think O'neil is one of the best british managers.. behind the red nose. tongue.gif

he do achieve something in scotland league and bring villa to top level without much resources.

if mancini goes out, he probably goes to citeh. or back to scotland again.
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post Aug 10 2010, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Aug 10 2010, 10:44 AM)
i think O'neil is one of the best british managers.. behind the red nose. tongue.gif

he do achieve something in scotland league and bring villa to top level without much resources.

if mancini goes out, he probably goes to citeh. or back to scotland again.
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His net spending is actually 3rd highest behind City & Spurs.
Contrary to popular believe, he signed loads of expensive British dudes. Though not all are blockbuster signings, but most are Sidwell types, high paying non 1st teamers
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Aug 10 2010, 10:44 AM)
i think O'neil is one of the best british managers.. behind the red nose. tongue.gif

he do achieve something in scotland league and bring villa to top level without much resources.

if mancini goes out, he probably goes to citeh. or back to scotland again.
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i honestly rate moyes and redknap further up than him.. scottish league only have two teams.. so doesn't count tongue.gif

villa already a mid-table team even before he joined..nothing change.

anyway, on to more relevant to LFC i think the kirdi n syrian company bid is a tactics used by the yanks to delay and ask more money from other bidder(s). read somewhere kirdi is friend with gillette's son.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Aug 10 2010, 02:51 AM)
His net spending is actually 3rd highest behind City & Spurs.
Contrary to popular believe, he signed loads of expensive British dudes. Though not all are blockbuster signings, but most are Sidwell types, high paying non 1st teamers
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because british players so damn expensive lor.

villa already midtable before oneil. but they nearly kick arsenal out of UCL last 2 seasons and they above us last season.

redknapp on the other hand, already has full team when he arrive on spurs. but his achievement in portsmouth was good, but left pompey while they have financial problem.

and moyes, other than midtable everton, not so good but according to red nose, he likes moyes (ofcourse.. he sold Rooney right..).

Roy, urm. we all know about Roy. he somehow not likely to spend much like Redknapp or Oneil. and dont talk rubbish like Moyes. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wolvie2k @ Aug 9 2010, 01:24 AM)
I don't know a lot about Liverpool's history. I just like watching them play. I loved watching them play since I was a kid. I guess if I still don't qualify as a fan in your eyes then so be it.

I will still support and watch them whenever I can. I will still buy their shirts too. I welcome anyone to do the same regardless of how much they know about the club.
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agree, but some 'new' fans need to know Liverpool Football club. its rich history & the traditions

"history defines you, one learns nothing if one chooses to ignore the past"

which is why 'some' LFc fans needs some etiquette even amongst fans. I have been a long LFC supporter but why I first to acknowledge that i'm cant recite all of the songs, I can point who's whos players, those that played >110% for liverpool , even those with limited talent but played with a lions heart & never complains even if he only plays only few minutes towards the end. (point to erik meijer)

sometimes they leave me aghast on their comments (ignorance). nontheless reminders are usually made so that they can filled the knowledge & not be stupid, glory seekers, fame seekers like.. shakehead.gif


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like i said, the cowboys wants to sell to donkeys if they can for a large profit. I'm not convince Kirdi's consortium of whatever is solid but just like the yanks they planned to borrow heavily to leave LFC in a bigger debt. Its like playing musical chairs. btw Kirdi' is a personal friend/ intorduced by one of the cowboys sons.

this will leave liverpool into a bigger abyss

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post Aug 10 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 8 2010, 11:34 PM)
Benayoun playing with his new club.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 8 2010, 11:38 PM)
fixed
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"Don't worry Benayoun. At least you'll be able to play close to a great team!" whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Aug 10 2010, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 8 2010, 05:11 PM)
Duke, you could have just passed the link to your posts from the "real fan" thread every time someone asks why it's important to be aware on the club's history.
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There's a "real fan" thread? I've been so disconnected from LYN... gah, 33 pages worth... *subscribed for when i have the time*


QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 8 2010, 05:28 PM)
Man I can't help it. I suffer from a bad case of verbal diarrhea smile.gif
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And we are fortunate for it! notworthy.gif
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to think of it again.. I admire those who doesn't know the club history and doesn't even bother about how successful this club was in the past and yet they are so passionate with more than 100% support to the club no matter what happened. For me they are by far the better supporter than those who's just more passionate about the history, the glorious past and the record statistics.... the real 'glory hunter'.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Aug 10 2010, 12:10 PM)
to think of it again.. I admire those who doesn't know the club history and doesn't even bother about how successful this club was in the past and yet they are so passionate with more than 100% support to the club no matter what happened. For me they are by far the better supporter than those who's just more passionate about the history, the glorious past and the record statistics.... the real 'glory hunter'.
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Please enlighten me as to how Hillsborough, and the boycotting of the S*N are synonomous with a 'glorious past'? How is paying tribute to the 96 that perished there even remotely related to trophies and achievements? Shankly isn't even our most successful manager but yet his name is uttered more than any other of our managers, why is that? Our songs aren't just random lyrics. They mean something, so how is wanting to memorise them, suggestive that someone is a glory hunter? It's when you don't know of our history that you assume it's because of records and trophies.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Aug 10 2010, 12:10 PM)
to think of it again.. I admire those who doesn't know the club history and doesn't even bother about how successful this club was in the past and yet they are so passionate with more than 100% support to the club no matter what happened. For me they are by far the better supporter than those who's just more passionate about the history, the glorious past and the record statistics.... the real 'glory hunter'.
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Your post suggests that your definition of history is the club's success, glory, records. Surely the club's history is more than that? And in the context of the discussion, the focus was clearly on a different aspect of the club's history.

Edit: Urk, ninja-ed by Duke!

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post Aug 10 2010, 01:22 PM

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bwahahahaha no one ninja-ed me this timeeeee smile.gif
it's a trend this, ninja-ing.

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Aug 10 2010, 12:10 PM)
to think of it again.. I admire those who doesn't know the club history and doesn't even bother about how successful this club was in the past and yet they are so passionate with more than 100% support to the club no matter what happened. For me they are by far the better supporter than those who's just more passionate about the history, the glorious past and the record statistics.... the real 'glory hunter'.
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this is abit too much la,

i, as a fan, am interested in past glories like the 5 ECLs , Uefa Cups and so forth...
im interested to know legends such as the likes of Rushie, King Kenny, The Horse (Hughes IINM), Souness, Keegan...
and past managers like Paisley, Shankly -the Shankly gates (in case some people dont know) -...
and important history like the Hillsborough Tragedy, Friendship with other clubs, how Liverpool FC actually came about.

but in all honesty, i did miss the issue regarding the S*n... im not ashamed to say that i dont know LFC 100% through and through...but i love the Club no less...
i can understand some 'senior' fans get pissed when people make simple mistake like calling the club 'Kop' because the Kop is a stand and LFC is a football club.

anyhow, why is this 'real fan' debate still going on. come on guys, give it a rest.
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okie. better we focus on this weekend match.


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QUOTE(sahathai @ Aug 10 2010, 12:10 PM)
to think of it again.. I admire those who doesn't know the club history and doesn't even bother about how successful this club was in the past and yet they are so passionate with more than 100% support to the club no matter what happened. For me they are by far the better supporter than those who's just more passionate about the history, the glorious past and the record statistics.... the real 'glory hunter'.
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i smile when read your post. it's the first time i heard about your version of 'glory hunter' definition. i failed to see why 96 people died in tragic way and a shite newspaper made up a filthy stories just to sell their shit got to do anything with glory hunting. history is not all about glory, cups and title, you know?
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For me, the big difference between glory hunter and a fan (proper or otherwise) or someone who calls themselves fan, is that a glory hunter would not want to know anything else about the club. Other than the result, or who scores. I call these people football followers, rather than fans. Because they would not careless if the manager is a monkey, or that the club has glorious history or went through bad times, or had tragedy such as Hillsborough, Heysel, Munich and others. These things don't matter to them, heck they might not even know the squad properly, would happily quote news from The S*N, or thinks that 2 losses and the club is going to get relegated, or that if we are behind in a game, they should turn off the TV. However, because they own clubs strips, they would call themselves a proper fan. To each it's own, but I have no respect towards people like that. It is fair that you don't want to find out about the club, but please refrain from calling others who want to know or those who know names, just because they want to know and for whatever reason, you feel that that is not a mark of a real fan, then you should carry on your way. No point arguing with people like you, because you'd reel out the "I don't care about the history, I don't need to know about the club, I just love the team / club, eventhough we are not winning", then can you please tell me, what about the club that you love then? The results on the field? Or beatiful crest? The beautiful brand of football we play? Or the fact that Torres is a good looking bloke?

As mentioned before, in these days of internet, everything can be found on the net, if you spend half an hour looking at wikipedia, you'd know enough about the club to appreciate it more. I can't for the life of me fathom how can someone claimed to love / like something but would not want to know more about it. It's the same, if you like a girl, you'd want to know more about her, what she's like, what is her favourite food and all that. If you don't, how can you like her? Maybe you just want to feel a sense of belonging, by posting here, but a afraid of being branded an ignorant fan, or is lazy to find out. To me, you give ALL Liverpool fans a bad name. Oh yeah, if you don't know, Liverpool fans are widely known as the MOST knowledgeable fans and one who'd appreciate good football.

So, please do yourself and us a favour, if you are merely a Liverpool follower, don't come out with moronic statements, because I do see you posting transfer news, wich means you are selective about what you want to know, rather than not wanting to know things. So pleaes do what you do and not stop others from wanting to learn.

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