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post Jul 15 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 15 2010, 05:19 PM)
KEEP INSUA and get another LB IN!!!
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insua is a young LB. too soon, if at all yet to blossom, shd have release babel aeons ago.

looks like carrager is needed to deputies OT again.
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post Jul 15 2010, 07:05 PM

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torres will be out for sometime. its being posted.
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post Jul 19 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jul 19 2010, 01:53 AM)
Liverpool winning race to sign Cole

Free agent Joe Cole is set to snub Arsenal and Tottenham for a move to Liverpool, according to The Daily Mail.

Cole, who was surprisingly released from Chelsea after seven years at Stamford Bridge, has yet to commit himself to any club despite the new Barclays Premier League season looming.

But if reports are to be believed, the 28-year-old is ready to put pen to paper on a lucrative deal at Anfield.

According to The News of the World, Liverpool new manager Roy Hodgson has offered the England international a staggering £90,000-per-week three-year deal.

Hodgson, who is facing an uphill task in keeping his star players like Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Javier Mascherano, is hoping the capture of Cole will assure them of the club's ambitions and persuade them into staying.

Cole's initial preference was to join a Champions League club, which Arsenal and Tottenham can offer, but the prospect of being a senior player at Anfield could well nudge his decision towards Merseyside.

But he has to make his decision known to Hodgson by next week.

how the hell RH have so much wage budget to sign him while rafa dun have?
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does chelsea knows something they arent telling (i thought i heard some evil sniggers) hmm.gif

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post Jul 19 2010, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(account_manager @ Jul 19 2010, 12:43 PM)
i assume because he is injury prone..  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(madfag @ Jul 19 2010, 01:02 PM)
joey just isnt worth the money he was demanding. after the injury, he isnt much of an impact player as he was before, so there is no other choice but to release him.

personally, i still think that the old joe cole can be revived. which would be a huge waste for us.
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nod.gif i already have an idea. I must confess, i added my earlier remark with a tinge of sarcasm given the fact that some of us have taken to cole as if he is indeed worth the $$ in wages.


crap, i too was like that when some unbelievale australian winger joined us back then, only to have $$$ coffers burned in the end.


Added on July 19, 2010, 5:06 pmduke, cole in english

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post Jul 19 2010, 06:56 PM

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Bring back Sami Hyypia in some capacity, it will pacify some LFc fan.


Benny deal is endorsed by the board. Rafa did say he can go (due to his constain internal noise that he should start more often)

Even rafa got the sax, Benny could still renegade his move but choose not , since it's THE current English league champions, Why would he not turn it down. (remember the " Pls come for me plea " beforehand .
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:55 PM

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i'm reading some FB post that in the mist of joe cole announcement, a news in tandem was sneaked under the radar that future ticket prices for LFc games had gone up. of course this wont affect LFC fans outside UK, but the repercussion in LFc grounds may be different.

So much promises of starting a new ground but not even a spade was shoved, & the cost for to support LFC will hurt a little more to fans in UK.

joe cole is likely to be rivalled by offers in salary from others but i guess he wanted guarentee to start more often. (if he stays out of treatment room)

but i dont think he's as bad as sickly as our ex 'the name shall not be named again" no.7


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post Jul 21 2010, 08:18 AM

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RH may have just pulled a rabbit (joe) out of the hat. Though it's his England team mates (gerrard & Carra) to may have persuaded the once 'lost' miraculé may have the stage to blossom.

It may well be the incentive key players, including javier M to stay. If cole stays off the treatment table, he would get my nod over benny anytime.

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post Jul 22 2010, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Jul 21 2010, 09:55 PM)
oh houllier.. still bitter after all this time. though i respected him because he did won a few cup for liverpool but rafa made the team big again in europe.

forgot to put this link. tomkins sums it all up. LINK
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I happen to watch some moments on astro (Liverpool TV of the evan years) not your goal clips but some style of plays that had so many forumers here enamoured of Liverpool (well, judging from the post & back then the daglish era or those predates that, they werent born yet)

It showed a lot passing & creative play that houllier had to abandon mainly because post mcmanaman, barnes, rush, LFC inherited a leaky awful defence of evans days, LFc had to employ almost high balls, bypassing midfield more than half the time for owen/heskey to chase. (at time even titi camara did too).
Evans LFc boys plays intelligent & many times almost breach to win the ONE but its was always the awful defending that had us & opposition scoring at will.

I dont know how one could appreciate that of LFc (while i understood houllier/thompson had to rid of leaky defence & at that time football tactics is becoming much much sophisticated, from the usual 4-4-2 & 4-3-3.

I respected what houllier had to overhaul but tactically he will be really out of sorts now, given the lack of post LFc. (please I'm not against houllier (to those Pro Houllier/anti Rafa) but his continued decision to stick to owen/heskey gave the LFC too 1 dimensional




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post Jul 28 2010, 03:34 PM

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RH is under pressured by the BOD now to give a good showing in next couple of games, even if it means sacrificing & bring in players who were exhausted in WC.
(in the news, LFc medical says no to those england trio, (but upstairs is preassuring) RH says they are ready)

We are selling club. it shows why we need to sell to buy (players). its has always been like this since the duo sip interest off LFC.

no left back. no real good one in sight.



QUOTE(Max_07s @ Jul 28 2010, 04:07 PM)
he is not make a mistake, the situation force him to do so. he needs to offload players in order to buy new players. we are not rich like man citeh. and our owners are broke. no choice.

yeah. Luke Young is below par old player.
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it seem its no different in either during RB era and now on RH lap. at least RH just nod at the board's tyranny & wont complain (polly just walk with tail down vmad.gif ).

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jul 28 2010, 05:45 PM)
..but as for insua i think RH can still cancel the deal as long as insua never signed for them
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for that i do agree,

what RH has now is a lions den, given the expectations of the club's ambitions, He as the club's manager very well has the capacity to work with what is at LFC, he can very well scupper insua deal until a proper left back is coming in, BUT no... we always said RH is powerless in tht, com'on, its then an indication is just a figurehead manager who listens/obeys to LFc board then.

QUOTE(-nana- @ Jul 28 2010, 05:05 PM)
this teaches you not to simply say when you know nothing about LFC and its FANS ! on luke young, i dont fancy him, and for 2.5mil i blv a top up for3-4mil plus that will get a rather decent left back. plus young's natural position is rb and he was only good way back to his charlton days. i rather much prefer salcido for our short term replacement.

i've seen u guys talk about de jong, i think he is an able replacement should masch leave, but he is no masch at all, not close yet.
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if masch stays, I pretty sure we will do better than the freak blimp season we had. (We came in to last season without a proper orchestrating midfielder, after alonso left & aquilani was still on the treatment table, & look we had the worse start in aeons, & we were very much in shambles, we then entered games during mid season with unnecessary risk (tactically) & didn't pay off, the rest as they say was history.

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QUOTE(kcmy @ Jul 28 2010, 06:03 PM)
With so many players coming in and the new season kicking off soon im worried the team doesnt have enuff time to gel. hope im wrong...
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technically, we havent really bought anyone (really). & that the biff i pressume that some senior players has with LFC & not at RH (according to RH 'media's' response on whose might be staying, who might be off)
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jul 29 2010, 11:53 AM)
Why is it the English cant play yet Slovak can when both of the countries only reached 2nd round of WC? Is it English players more of a commodity? Cole & Carra not even played all the matches but Skrtel did.  hmm.gif
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WELL, gerrard did have a better WC (over his other england teammates), carra + gerrard over the course of the whole season more often than not puts over 110% scousers bravery whistling.gif well when you average out the stats thye do.


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the cowboys & their lies. if only they lived up to their promises.

as much as the 'others' bids, its been pretty much speculated that its a diversion/smokescreen to get potential bids up.

between the HK QSL & whealthy Sheikh, i would prefer the former.

Gary Ablett is in our thought & prayers. few of the heroes who may not be in high rememberence to some LFC fans but he was once LFc player & an unselfish one.
get well GA

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QUOTE(triple02 @ Aug 3 2010, 06:07 PM)
even if Huang buys the debt off RBS, Im sure he will call the loan in and give them an ultimatum either put up the cash or  give up the shares.

Being the business man that i think he is im sure he'll insert a caveat under the terms of the loan that under no circumstances that the club's star players are sold to repay the debts, after all G&H are owing money to the Huang group and not RBS after he buys off the debt.

Huang will have the absolute control over the terms & condition of the loan and can call it as he pleases.

The only way for G&H will be to get another loan from another bank to pay off the debt owed to Huang or use their own money thats how i see it if Huang buys off the debt off RBS. Shrewd very shrewd.
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'agressive manuvering' by kenny on the RBS debt but because G&H is on the LFC board, if they can somehow repay the debt (of course they probably wont use their own money but lets just say if they did) they can still sell to 'donkeys' (pardon the anology) other than the Huang's QSL group.

Huangs QSL sports portfolio seems pretty 'real' in getting 'business' into sports. from the news snippets of the basketball & the yankess. they (Huang's QSL bid) would represent A clear & present good news to the long suffering fans of LFc. it not some super rich oil man who has zero on sports business.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Aug 3 2010, 07:04 PM)
to be honest i dinnae care if the to be owners have a real interest in soccer/football or sports.

everyone's dossier can be padded up and made to look good. Heck, the muppets said all the right things and had what appeared to be good credentials when they first arrived doh.gif

i just want someone with bloody money, someone rich enough to wipe out the club's debts and build us a new stadium. genuine love for the club is secondary at the moment if you ask me.
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it would be no different from the silly mess we are today.

Money (even if borrowed) & no love for the LFC history & club, it would be a merry-go-round of stupidity owners.

No as fans, I would fan my disapproval.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 3 2010, 08:01 PM)
i want a passionate owner... not necessarily liverpool fan.. but just passionate about football and the beautiful game with less emphasis on profit.
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building the stadium would represent they (new owners) would be in for the long haul. The downside would mean less emphasis on 'better' & further quantity reinforcements* (look at gunners) in which we would hope the our academy players comes good sooner then later.

also as much as the marketing dossier looks an uppeth notch over the cowboys, the long haul is opening a huge huge penetration into the china market. Success of 'Yao ming' in US for china is tremendous. I'm sure Huang's QSL is readily able to exploit that, if he is able to wrest control.


'REd Army', gives a whole new meaning if the situation does comes about

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 3 2010, 08:26 PM)
Wealth and love are equally important.See David Moores, as much as he loves the club, he cant bring it any further without wealth.
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he is pretty much old school english rich. Britain in the recent times hasnt really produce new 'rich', (the forbes kind of super rich).

only the oil giants russians, the sheikhs (also oil), americans (the buffet, gates types) & probably some sports VC's abeit their whealth ain't as deep as the oil tycoons.

british rich ? even the queen isnt on high list.

thanks to the super splurges of chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, RMadrid <tis takes the cake, the meaning of taking club to the next level is completely mind blowing.

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Aug 4 2010, 10:22 AM)
let this nightmare end... it has already cost us a really good manager (not because he was sacked, but because Rafa allowed the mess to get to him and change him as a person) and god knows how many potential players.
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now thats a credible thought. he was never too bad of a manager, i'm sure at IM he has a hard act to follow & should prove detractors wrong.

Kenny Huang... did his parents, pool fans? that would be ironic laugh.gif

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 4 2010, 12:31 PM)
Here's the difference mate. We actually had to live through our barren run.
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I was able to cherish the earlier LFc heights & the most heartbreak Lfc game I ever watched. losing 1-2 to arsenal. Micheal Thomas killed us

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QUOTE(Petre @ Aug 5 2010, 11:57 AM)
i think he is in Riera's situation now. no more welcomed in the squad yet no way out

i'm disappointed with the guy for his way. through thick and thin, this is the true red spirit. look at torres. stars staying. why cant masch stay? he has no confidence it the team? the manager?

if he stays, hope he do something to win back the fans
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there are a lot of senior players not quite happy about Liverpools position (ownership). they & I can say ALL who was involved in 90% first team games are Happy & they know they are playing in the BEST club in Britain if not the world. (bar benny)

they dont hate or blame RH & they already knew last seasons blip is in part their own doing. The other part they have given 200% to their games but circumtances cant change when the team had lack of reasonable cover to senoir players when they were injured/dip in form.

Maybe there is an about turn in the fate of his move/heart (like insua's to italy).





on the issue of selling the club, yy biggest fear is the G&H owners are going sell to new 'donkeys' (owners who has zero sense in sports business) as if its a bloody musical chairs.

of course some argue its the job of Purslow to seek further commercial investments but as owners/ or in the capacity on the Liverpool Directors it is upmost that a sustainable and consistency to the health of the club in finance or growth.

If it goes true, lets hope tht Huangs QSL isnt another false dawn (doubt the other bids are as genuine or just a smokescreen ala being a friend of G&H). Huangs QSL don't look as deep pockets as RA or glazer, or the ManCity's owners. Just hope they are as savvy in helping to finance purchases when it counts.


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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Aug 5 2010, 06:37 PM)
Liverpool Board Divided Over Whether To Accept Stunning Chinese Government Takeover Bid
Hicks and Gillett want higher sale price than £325 million...

It is believed that Kirdi has a close working relationship with Gillett’s son, which has prompted speculation that the Syrian’s involvement is being used as a stalling tactic by the Anfield co-owner.

Yet the broker for Kirdi said today that the Syrian and his investment group are negotiating directly with the Americans – not with Broughton or Barclays Capital - and want to agree on a deal that would allow the pair to “walk away with a profit” before Liverpool open their Premier League campaign on 15 August.

“We are prepared to take as long as it takes to get the deal done properly but all the participants would be pleased if we could have it in place for Liverpool’s home Premier League opener against Arsenal,” said Dan Diamond, president of Montreal-based GameDay Leadership Management Consultants.

It is Gillett and Hicks’ decision to negotiate above the heads of their fellow directors that has angered Broughton, Purslow and Ayre, who share three of the five boardroom votes.

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if this is true, Fak you G & H, you only have profit & NEVER had any interest & passion to the club, & if the backdoor maneuver is also true; You dosh Are a Fkaing disgrace & those ever who supported you .

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