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 Why should i switch from iPhone to HTC (Android)?, share your opinion

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chiahau
post Aug 30 2010, 05:07 PM

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Lol mr. kentang.

I wanna support your statement also i scared dy..

Coz most of em are full of BS >">

That's coming from an iPhone user itself bro....


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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 30 2010, 04:45 PM)
yes, its true.
i've always maintained dat both ios4 is de best but android is good too.
depends on wat type of person u r.
many times, i've seen over eager beavers spent so much on a phone dat is too powderful for dem and end up feeling frustrated n demotivated.

if u want best looking aesthetics,  elegant simplicity in user interface, reasonable battery life, n ultimate selection of apps, den its no choice but iphone.
on de other hand, if u like nerdy stuff like modding, customizing colors/fonts, designing ur own apps, den choose android.
got htc, se, moto, csl, etc
of course i talk abt desire more bcoz its de most android fone i sell
legend - too expensive, smallish screen
se x10 - too expensive
milestone - not popular.
wildfire - ???


Added on August 30, 2010, 4:50 pm

actually its de attention 2 all these small but important details dat makes iOS the greatest mobile phone OS.
while techno geeks seek to outdo each other in mbit, mpixels, apple teams of engineering genius focus on de user interface aspects dat made touch screen phones into de mainstream;

apple really changed de world.

and android now, is juz catching up.
while i hope they can succeed, but chances are very slim. reason is simply, they do not have the vision of steve jobs.
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Disagree, best or not is solely your opinion. Being a hand phone seller doesn't mean you're not biased and doesn't mean you represent all the mobile phone users in the world.

And I disagree as well your points on Android users belong to the geeky groups only who spent all time customizing their phones, doing coding and wearing 3cm thick glasses smile.gif Being easier to customize is an advantage Android platform but it's perfectly fine to use on day-to-day basis as well.

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Aug 30 2010, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 30 2010, 05:07 PM)
Lol mr. kentang.

I wanna support your statement also i scared dy..

Coz most of em are full of BS >">

That's coming from an iPhone user itself bro....
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I take his reply as daily jokes to cure my workload stress tongue.gif

QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 30 2010, 05:09 PM)
Disagree, best or not is solely your opinion. Being a hand phone seller doesn't mean you're not biased and doesn't mean you represent all the mobile phone users in the world.

And I disagree as well your points on Android users belong to the geeky groups only who spent all time customizing their phones, doing coding and wearing 3cm thick glasses smile.gif
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I have 10cm thick glasses. Oh shitz oops.gif

I feel kentang_peranchis post should be muted by the moderating team. More to post all idiotic and pointless post. wink.gif
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post Aug 30 2010, 05:16 PM

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btw, if u want to know which phone is more superior, you should go read reviews by experts who do all the detail reviews.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/iphone-...r-amoled-fight/
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_gala...-review-500.php

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post Aug 30 2010, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 30 2010, 04:13 PM)
and i dun think u r iphone developer if u kenot appreciate de system and say it's almost same like android.
please study more. if u willing to buy me lunch, i can teach u a tip or two.

Erm, I really am an iPhone developer. It's my day job. smile.gif
You ask me to study more, what exactly? I already know Objective-C, and I'm familiar with the latest XCode IDE and iPhone SDKs.
And it's not that I don't appreciate the system, but to me the touchscreen is really not much different from Android.
The kinetic scrolling might be slightly better, but it's just an algorithm, and not much different from HTC Sense or LauncherPRO.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Aug 30 2010, 05:12 PM)
I take his reply as daily jokes to cure my workload stress tongue.gif
I have 10cm thick glasses. Oh shitz oops.gif

I feel kentang_peranchis post should be muted by the moderating team. More to post all idiotic and pointless post.  wink.gif
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not to offence him, but he should really read the title of this threat before coming in and comment.

If u still can't see the title of this threat, I write for u here:

"Why should i switch from iPhone to HTC (Android)?, share your opinion"[SIZE=14]
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Aug 30 2010, 07:18 PM)
Erm, I really am an iPhone developer. It's my day job.  smile.gif
You ask me to study more, what exactly? I already know Objective-C, and I'm familiar with the latest XCode IDE and iPhone SDKs.
And it's not that I don't appreciate the system, but to me the touchscreen is really not much different from Android.
The kinetic scrolling might be slightly better, but it's just an algorithm, and not much different from HTC Sense or LauncherPRO.
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go buy him a lunch and he will give you a good tips to you tongue.gif


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post Aug 30 2010, 07:55 PM

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I LOL-ed hard too much dy..

anyway, Since official 2.2 FroYo is out here, i'm busy playing barn buddy at FB.

Can play with me, Mr.Kentang??

Opps, i 4got..

You cant use Flash right??

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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_gala...-review-500.php

This is A very good impartial comparison between iphone4 n galaxy s. There is no clear winner. The writer says it very well in his last paragraph. I would advise all take heed his words as meaningless to bash iPhone or android

Quote:Wrap up
Well, here we are at the end of our grand battle. We tried to be as helpful as possible to everyone wondering which of the two best smartphones currently available to purchase. There's a reason why we won't add up the individual scores for each phone - different people have different needs and you should count only the scores on the chapters that are important to you.
And don't take our word for granted - you are free to disagree with our reasoning. After all, every person out there uses their phones in a different way. That's the beauty of it - the latest and greatest smartphones can do so much for you that you can even afford to not use some of the available features and still have a great experience.
There's no ultimate smartphone out there and the right choice boils down to the compromises you are willing to make. Price is important factor too and currently the iPhone 4 is probably the most expensive smartphone on the market (contract-free). But then again, Apple gadgets are almost always the most expensive among their kind and still, they sell quite well.

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post Aug 30 2010, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(whitegoh @ Aug 30 2010, 05:00 PM)
"apple really changed de world"
LOL... touchscreen phone available already since 1999 lo...
how Apple really change the world???
Some technology used by Apple is not invented by Apple.
how can u say Apple change the world???
the so called A4 processor doesn't really fully invented by Apple either.
And do you know that Apple wanted to develop Tablet 1st before they come out with iPhone?
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i'm not sure exactly when touchscreen phones came into mass market but before iphone came into de mkt, not many ppl really wanted to buy one.
not bcoz its too expensive but mostly bcoz de interface is too cumbersome and not user-friendly, until apple comes along and took de market by storm.

iphone became a fenomenal smash hit arnd de world and evrybody simply wants an iphone.
but den of coz, de nerds/geeks disliked de ingenuity n simplicity bcoz there's nothing much to improve on perfection.
so android was created as an open platform for these type of ppl.

while open software has its advantages, but without some degree of quality control and google doesn't have much vision (for the mobile smartphone mkt anyway), de android phones simply kenot compete wt the iphone, even with de combined might of taiwanese htc, ailing sony ericsson and de motorola.


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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Aug 30 2010, 05:18 PM)
Erm, I really am an iPhone developer. It's my day job.  smile.gif
You ask me to study more, what exactly? I already know Objective-C, and I'm familiar with the latest XCode IDE and iPhone SDKs.
And it's not that I don't appreciate the system, but to me the touchscreen is really not much different from Android.
The kinetic scrolling might be slightly better, but it's just an algorithm, and not much different from HTC Sense or LauncherPRO.
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Kentang is OBSESSED with his love for the iPhone. It is difficult for him to accept any opposing comments of his view and opinion. If you read all his posts is a clear trend he is Steve job biggest fan. I respect his opinion only at times he go overboard to the point of condemning and criticizing others who think differently. As a consumer I love all platforms, the more the better as I will have more choices. I hate the day we have only one platform to use

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post Aug 30 2010, 08:23 PM

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Actually I don't see why we need to argue with him. I too feel iPhone is the starting point which spark the revolutionary in mobile OS. Otherwise we would still be comparing Symbian vs WM. A lot of them were busy copying Apple innovations like AppStore. However, it's up to you which OS is better.
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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ Jul 13 2010, 09:27 PM)
iphone is ez to use. one button done.

android for more complicated ppl like us. tongue.gif
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rclxms.gif I like ur quote.. 'android for more complicated ppl like us'

But too bad, I still cldnt manage it hence I switch back Win.

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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 30 2010, 08:11 PM)
i'm not sure exactly when touchscreen phones came into mass market but before iphone came into de mkt, not many ppl really wanted to buy one.
not bcoz its too expensive but mostly bcoz de interface is too cumbersome and not user-friendly, until apple comes along and took de market by storm.

iphone became a fenomenal smash hit arnd de world and evrybody simply wants an iphone.
but den of coz, de nerds/geeks disliked de ingenuity n simplicity bcoz there's nothing much to improve on perfection.
so android was created as an open platform for these type of ppl.

while open software has its advantages, but without some degree of quality control and google doesn't have much vision (for the mobile smartphone mkt anyway), de android phones simply kenot compete wt the iphone, even with de combined might of taiwanese htc, ailing sony ericsson and de motorola.
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On iPhone revolutionize the touchscreen, I agree. Touchscreen was never a hit during WinMo time when everyone still had to use stylus to interact with the UI.

On Android being a "nerds only" platform, I again disagree. Android has overtaken iOs in US as the mainstream platform. But that definitely doesn't mean people in US are converting the "nerds". I understand that is your personal opinion but if you are repeating this 100 times, I have to clarify it 100 times to prevent you from misleading others. Android (at least HTC Desire) is 100% usable even on stock condition (no customization), and learning how to use it is a matter of 30 minutes++. People customize it because they can, not because they have to smile.gif

It's a matter of taste, it's a matter of choice. But it is extremely rude of you to generalize all Android users are nerds and iPhone users made the right choice. You don't represent all users. Period. Some iPhone users are so stupid that I can't help laughing (I always see one in Android forum) but does it make iPhone a phone of choice for idiots? I wouldn't make that conclusion smile.gif

Whether or not it can compete with iPhone? We shall see... let's not make your presumption here

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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 30 2010, 04:13 PM)
i am not iphone developer, juz a normal seller. ur everyday ordinary person.
and i dun think u r iphone developer if u kenot appreciate de system and say it's almost same like android.
please study more. if u willing to buy me lunch, i can teach u a tip or two. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

maybe it is difficult for androiders but let's not juz concentrate on de geeky stuff,ok?
when u use de iphone the touch experience is very natural.
de way u interact and response, well it's hard to describe in words.

for example, when u scroll phonebook in android, right at the end it won't bounce back but juz stay there.
but the simple bounce by iphone is very well thought out n clever.

well, de menu system is most simple and powerful. almost everybody can understand and use.
android?? try asking a success businessman to use it;
got one guy, when boss ask him to buy latest phone, he chose de desire.
but poor fella got scolded real badly becos de boss was so busy and he didn't have time to learn all de geeky stuff.
juz it needs to WORK.

so when he exchange it back for an iphone, i juz add small charge him to cover de minimal cost.
otherwise he might get more scoldings... shocking.gif
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My ex boss call me this morning and ask me sell off his iPhone 4 say he still prefer his blackberry 9700. Say is too complicate and fanciful , told me more for young kids. Anyway I will buy from him add to my collection. Just goes to show different people has different needs and view gadgets usage differently. So now my smart level will go one up as I am getting the iphone4 too. So please don't quote such incident just to prove your point as it really doesn't prove anything.
I was in corporate business world last 25 years and my main business phone last 10 years was the blackberry. I only gave it up after I retiree. As my biz needs the blackberry is compulsory and as general manager I authorized purchase on company account to all my senior managers. Just quote another example how users use their phones
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Maybe mr potato didn't know that mr jobs himself is a nerd/geek, same goes to the developers who made the iphone.

Anyway, just give him chance to express his everlasting love to steve jobs, since he's not allowed to do just that in iphone thread.
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haaaaa..glad to see ya back. kentang...this thread has "alive" again... smile.gif
opps, i have to get some popcorn tomorrow..


Added on August 30, 2010, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 30 2010, 04:13 PM)
i am not iphone developer, juz a normal seller. ur everyday ordinary person.
and i dun think u r iphone developer if u kenot appreciate de system and say it's almost same like android.
please study more. if u willing to buy me lunch, i can teach u a tip or two. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

maybe it is difficult for androiders but let's not juz concentrate on de geeky stuff,ok?
when u use de iphone the touch experience is very natural.
de way u interact and response, well it's hard to describe in words.

for example, when u scroll phonebook in android, right at the end it won't bounce back but juz stay there.
but the simple bounce by iphone is very well thought out n clever.

well, de menu system is most simple and powerful. almost everybody can understand and use.
android?? try asking a success businessman to use it;
got one guy, when boss ask him to buy latest phone, he chose de desire.
but poor fella got scolded real badly becos de boss was so busy and he didn't have time to learn all de geeky stuff.
juz it needs to WORK.

so when he exchange it back for an iphone, i juz add small charge him to cover de minimal cost.
otherwise he might get more scoldings... shocking.gif
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wow..so many ppl return desire? so it consider 2nd hand right? how much you selling that 2nd hand unit? comeon..best price pls tongue.gif


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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 30 2010, 04:45 PM)

actually its de attention 2 all these small but important details dat makes iOS the greatest mobile phone OS.
while techno geeks seek to outdo each other in mbit, mpixels, apple teams of engineering genius focus on de user interface aspects dat made touch screen phones into de mainstream;

apple really changed de world.

and android now, is juz catching up.
while i hope they can succeed, but chances are very slim. reason is simply, they do not have the vision of steve jobs.
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another 6-12 months..you will see stevie cry.
steve jobs vision.? haaa..i knw that. All iphone users become his slave. He is same as me. Control freak.. diff is i love to fully control my fone. biggrin.gif

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I'm save my breath to argue about the touchscreen. Just for yr info, touchscreen all along is there. Just that expensive during the old time and this is a fact. In 1999, a tochscreen phone coz how much and now a how much? definitely Cost is one of the determinant.

"while open software has its advantages, but without some degree of quality control and google doesn't have much vision (for the mobile smartphone mkt anyway), de android phones simply kenot compete wt the iphone, even with de combined might of taiwanese htc, ailing sony ericsson and de motorola."

U are really making me laugh. What kind of quality control u are talking about??? The phone's hardware?? Galaxy S, Desire, Legend and Hero got quality issue??
Apps?? Come on, free apps sure mean low quality ger la.. want quality apps sure need to pay ger la.. I'm petty there is lots of quality apps in android market.

Compete?? in term of what??? sales quantity? Android win already. Apps quantity? Apple win. Technology??? u so expert till u can judge that iOS better than Android?

One thing i love about Android is that when i want to download apps, i can download from many website beside itunes store =)
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On iPhone revolutionize the touchscreen, I agree. Touchscreen was never a hit during WinMo time when everyone still had to use stylus to interact with the UI.

On Android being a "nerds only" platform, I again disagree. Android has overtaken iOs in US as the mainstream platform. But that definitely doesn't mean people in US are converting the "nerds". I understand that is your personal opinion but if you are repeating this 100 times, I have to clarify it 100 times to prevent you from misleading others. Android (at least HTC Desire) is 100% usable even on stock condition (no customization), and learning how to use it is a matter of 30 minutes++. People customize it because they can, not because they have to smile.gif

It's a matter of taste, it's a matter of choice. But it is extremely rude of you to generalize all Android users are nerds and iPhone users made the right choice. You don't represent all users. Period. Some iPhone users are so stupid that I can't help laughing (I always see one in Android forum) but does it make iPhone a phone of choice for idiots? I wouldn't make that conclusion smile.gif

Whether or not it can compete with iPhone? We shall see... let's not make your presumption here
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i write in dis forum is never to criticize or degrade android users. also, like u to share so others readers will not make de same mistake like many of my customers who bought android machines did. there are many times my staff and even myself was subjected to scoldings/curses by customers who chose android phones, especially desire.

never did i say androiders are idiots or stupid. icon_rolleyes.gif only mention dat apple engineers/developers are much more smarter. perhaps its bcos of steve jobs vision. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

de only reason android machines had tried to go mainstream is bcos manufacturers like htc, moto, se had no choice if they wanna compete in exploding touchscreen mkt, which of cos, was created by apple. so they use android in their best machines e.g. bigger screens, highest megapix, hd recording, etc.

they have no better alternatives. winmo, symbian is too dated and old, nobody supports webOS. and...steve jobs ain't going to give out de jewel iOS to others.

so with heavy advertising, customers are thinking they have iphone alternative. unfortunately soon after customers discover the severe crippling weakness (ady mentioned many obvious times) of android system, i'm sure they will be desperate to wait until their telcos contract finish to dump off de phone. and then, u will see de dreadful impact on android sales. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

lastly, being a nerd/geek is not meant as an insult. remember bill gates is also a geek...so there is no shame in being one. doh.gif doh.gif









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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 31 2010, 01:04 AM)
i write in dis forum is never to criticize or degrade android users. also, like u to share so others readers will not make de same mistake like many of my customers who bought android machines did. there are many times my staff and even myself was subjected to scoldings/curses by customers who chose android phones, especially desire.

never did i say androiders are idiots or stupid. icon_rolleyes.gif  only mention dat apple engineers/developers are much more smarter. perhaps its bcos of steve jobs vision.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

de only reason android machines had tried to go mainstream is bcos manufacturers like htc, moto, se had no choice if they wanna compete in exploding touchscreen mkt, which of cos, was created by apple. so they use android in their best machines e.g. bigger screens, highest megapix, hd recording, etc.

they have no better alternatives. winmo, symbian is too dated and old, nobody supports webOS. and...steve jobs ain't going to give out de jewel iOS to others.

so with heavy advertising, customers are thinking they have iphone alternative. unfortunately soon after customers discover the severe crippling weakness (ady mentioned many obvious times) of android system, i'm sure they will be desperate to wait until their telcos contract finish to dump off de phone. and then, u will see de dreadful impact on android sales. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

lastly, being a nerd/geek is not meant as an insult. remember bill gates is also a geek...so there is no shame in being one. doh.gif  doh.gif
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Its very simple. Both OS caters for totally different types of people.

1) Simple people
2) Complex people

Some people, they want their phone just to be able to do a certain sets of functions, and to do it well.
Some people, they prefer flexibility to cater many different types of functions

iOS and android, they cant please both people.
Its just that many people think they are complex at first, but actually end up preferring simple, thus why you get more returns for Android.

Its like having an apartment vs having a house. Some people prefer the small place, easier to manage, less clutter, easier to clean. And some people, they prefer having a big house, even tho its harder to clean and manage, because they need the space to do many other things.

Are people prefering apartments idiots? No its just that they like it that way, and its their preference. Are people that want houses idiots? No, same again as above.

So people, please stop bashing the OS. Just bash the idiots that thinks the inventor of apartments (aka iOS) is a god wink.gif. People need to stop worshiping Apple.

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