That's not necessarily true. Haven't you noticed how isolated an Asian is when he/she is in a European country, compared to how venerated a Caucasian is when he/she is in an Asian country? If you've lived and worked overseas, you should be able to able to observe this typical social construction.

And have you ever wondered what will be your perceptions if you're born as a Caucasian? Wouldn't you, as the Caucasian, will feel as if you have the world's confidence, especially considering the fact that most successful capitalist corporations actually belonged to Americans/Europeans? To know that whever you go, you will always see the "Coca-Cola" brand, even if they're changed in different languages? How many Asians corporations are as dominant as them?

The idea is not to think that white people are superior, but rather to UNDERSTAND where did they get their confidence from. And also why are they venerated in Asian countries compared to Asians in European countries.

On the contrary, it is people who believed because they are NOT INFERIOR, hence they feel there was never a need to improve themselves. Only a person who is smart will realizes how stupid he really is.

And stupid people? They don't even know how stupid they are, simply due to the fact they are stupid, and worse, because they think they are NOT inferior in any aspects, especially in intelligence, and so they believed they DO NOT NEED TO IMPROVE.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 16 2010, 12:50 PM

Raul88, you have racial hatred in your mind and not fit to debate. It is the REALITY that some race are more superior in terms of physical and ideology, in simple words that you can understand is; the WHITE created most the technology and Chinese has fairer skin then Malay who happen to have the attitude to succeed, your half matured brain refuse to accept and can only believe the things you see with your eyes.

You'd rather believe that the Earth is flat because you are not standing on a sphere, you tried argue in the RWI but failed yet you think you have what it takes to offer your shallow opinion here to all the acting PhD. Don't bring your Malay versus Chinese sentiment here and go debate at the Mamak stall.

Like it or not, there is always a dominant force. In a group of people, it is obvious to have a stronger one that is like a leader. Same goes with race, in USA, it is the whites, they are the self proclaimed dominant race.
This dominance is a natural phenomenon is the world it is even shown in the animal world, nothing is borned or created equal.

It's a human nature to like fairer things. There is nothing racist about this, it's just how our mind (brain) works.

you didnt answer the question
say what you mean..and mean what you said
you're neither

Deadlocks,

I had lived in Western Country for many years.

We need to separate two things here. Let's take one thing at a a time.

1) Confidence

Even if a person has confidence, it can go either ways:

A) Arrogance

Our culture are so superior that we do not need to learn anything and improve. Our gene is so good that we have the talent. We do not need to work hard.

The GOOD and BAD in Western Country is that their concept of TALENT. They believe either they have it or not. On the average, they do not work as hard if they believe they are not bornt with it,

B) Confidence to improve

i) Our culture is strong enough and it will not be destroyed by incorporating and learning from other cultures.

ii) We have the gene that is good enough to learn anything. We just need to work hard on it.


And, we can go to the other sides to

2) Inferior feeling

A) Our culture is so weak that it needs to be protected or it will die.

B) Our gene is so weak that it is HOPELESS to believe that we can compete even if we work hard. We are DOOM.


Dreamer

P.S.: I had lived in both Malaysia and USA. IMHO, all cultures are BAD. It does not FIT any individual perfectly. We need to pick and choose what works for us from each culture. Aka, I am a multi-culturalist.

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Added on August 16, 2010, 7:12 pmraul88,

I did answer. It is YOU that cannot accept my answer. Fix yourself and every problem will be solved.

YOU are the problem.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 16 2010, 07:12 PM

This I agree.

However:

How about:

C) We are so inferior therefore we should work hard to improve ourselves.

Wouldn't that thinking be better? Imagine if a person, say a typical, uneducated Mat Rempit finally decided to be humble and start learning from educated people. If he keeps thinking that he is never inferior in intelligence, how can he ever hope to improve himself?

Same thing goes for an ENTIRE RACE.

Deadlocks,

The QUESTION here is do the person BELIEVES that their inferiority is

A) Cultural

Aka, something that they can learn and overcome.

B) Genetic

Aka, they are borned with this and they could NEVER COMPETE successfully with people with SUPERIOR GENE.

Now, there are people DO NOT BELIEVE in meritocracy to begin with. You are either born into RULING ELITE or MARRIED into RULING ELITE family or you are DOOM for life.

Dreamer

Here's an example of 'might be genetic factor':

The FIFA world cup. No matter how hard and advance the technology from Asia, no Asian teams can win the cup so far.
Genetic is really one of the big factor. It's not that they can't win it. It's just that they have to work harder than the whites.

Another example; why do most fast sprinters are blacks?

Its the same factor, size and endurance, some of them dominated certain sports events but not Asian. In Heidi Earth quake, many of them can survive even more than week.

Exactly. Like what i was trying to say, apart from cultural influence, genes are also a big factor for a superiority of the species..

hazairi,

The QUESTION is

Is the MIND more important or the BODY??

Culture DRIVE the MOTIVATION aka the MIND.

Gene is ONLY the body.

If a person is NOT MOTIVATED to improve and utilizes their TALENT, superior body does not help.

On the other hand, even a person with INFERIOR BODY can improve and become something with MOTIVATION.

MIND over MATTER.

Dreamer

Folks,

Most things in life are not ABSOLUTE anyhow.

Most human beings have a package of genes that make them good for something and bad for something else.

If someone is a VERY GOOD at something, they will be VERY BAD at something else.

This is how it is in term of GENE.

The KEY of success in life is to make use of what you have. Have an attitude and mentality of NOT WHINING and TAKE RESPONSIBILITY of YOUR LIFE instead of blaming on OTHERS.

It is THE SAME with ANY CULTURE. ALL CULTURES are BAD. They are NOT SUITABLE for ALL circumstances.

Dreamer

Are you sure about that? From what I know, Neanderthals and Peking men are dead-ends in the evolution from homo erectus. Homo sapiens are the successful descendants of homo erectus, and all humans today are classified as homo sapiens. Africans are also homo sapiens. As long as they can mate with other humans and produce healthy children, then they are the same species. Interbred species usually produce offsprings that are infertile. Mating Africans with any other human produces fertile children.

Caucasians are taller in general now because of better nutrition. A survey of their height from two thousand years ago showed that it oscillated depending on the nutrition available at that time. Some times, the average was only 5' 3" and other times, almost 6'. Link Measurements made from ancient Chinese armour showed that many of the people were above 6' at certain points in times, especially during the peak of the dynasties. Ancient Romans described ancient Chinese as tall people. If you look at the Japanese, the younger generation is the tallest in Asia and have heights comparable to the average mediterranean European. In the past, just 1 or 2 generations ago, they were widely considered to be shorties.

Having different colour eyes has nothing to do with genetic superiority. Those are probably mutated genes that have survived, since brown eyes are the norm for most of the world. Same with the hair. Link

What do you mean by their culture successfully transferred knowledge through documentation? Many civilisations invented writing, maybe on their own and successfully transferred knowledge throughout the ages. Education content in school? Maybe what we learn now has a lot to do with the West, but the West expanded a lot on the work done by other cultures and civilisations before them that came into decline. One of the reasons the West is so dominant now is because they expanded a lot and dominated other civilisations over the last few hundred years. Maybe you can claim that being aggressive and claiming to want to spread "civilisation" to be a cultural superiority, but then many aggressive cultures have failed after initial successes.

Why Asians can't win the world cup? Poverty, lack of infrastructure, lack of good coaching from a young age, focus on education instead of sports, etc. Lots of factors to consider.

Here's the average height of the teams in the last world cup. As you can see, the 2 finalists are shorter than the Koreans on average, and only slightly taller than the Japanese and N. Koreans.


This post has been edited by thesoothsayer: Aug 17 2010, 11:31 PM

Can't deny that the mind is more important. But 'the body' also played a big roll.

Whites can become good sprinters than blacks BUT they have to work super-hard for that compared to the naturally muscled bodied of the blacks.

A mind of a miracle can produce wonders, but in terms of probability, how many miracles can the under-dogs achieve?

ENOUGH WITH CHINESE MARRY INDIAN = MALAY BULLSHIT!
GET OUT MY INTERNET!

hazairi,

Looking at Chinese in Malaysia, how many miracles have you find?? Plenty...

No, it has nothing to do with gene.

Dreamer

Like i said before, gene is one of the factor.. Others would be the culture and etc..

About the Chinese, IMO, they have been successful since long time ago.
The cultural influence have made them very hardworking. It's not a suprise to see them successful in many other countries.

I for one believe, everyone is born equal. Cultural factor do not exist since the day of ice age.

Cultural is something human created, and as we aged, it becomes history and part of our everyday's practise (culture).

Someone has to starts first, before others imitates and follows.

hazairi,

1) Then, there is NOTHING to prevent other people from copying the part of Chinese Culture that make them successful. The MOST IMPORTANT part is Chinese CARE about EDUCATION.

2) As per gene, there is no such thing as Pure Chinese anyhow. Northern Chinese are different from Southern Chinese. Southern Chinese are mixed with local native for at least 1,000 years.

Dreamer

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Added on August 19, 2010, 8:07 pmkeith_hjinhoh,

People has to CHOOSE to follow that culture.

By default, CULTURE dies with each generation. The NEW generation has to CHOOSE to follow it or it will be gone.

A culture has to be MEANINGFUL and RELEVANT with the NEW GENERATION or it will be gone.

All cultures have to went through this.

Dreamer



This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 19 2010, 08:07 PM