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Humanities The Hierachy of Race?, No racism intended.

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soul2soul
post Aug 21 2010, 09:02 AM

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I think it's a trade off. Most of the white genes are recessive genes. Black and white couple will produce a black kid.

I am speculating the whites have undergone some evolutionary path to give them some distinct nicer physical attribute. But then, we find these whites have more strange genetic diseases as compared to the other races.

Things like cystic fibrosis and all sorts of auto-immune disease are quite common in their race.
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post Aug 21 2010, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 8 2010, 06:54 PM)

2) No for Chinese in Malaya and Singapore.  During WWII, the British ran away instead of fighting the Japanese and left the Chinese to be MASSACRED by the Japanese.  After this BETRAYAL, Chinese no longer consider the WHITE to be SUPERIOR.  During our childhood, we even have a song on this.

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dude, i believe the malays and indians had to fight against the japanese too.
just not as many numerically as the chinese.
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post Aug 21 2010, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(rvn_rvn @ Aug 21 2010, 09:21 AM)
dude, i believe the malays and indians had to fight against the japanese too.
just not as many numerically as the chinese.
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rvn_rvn,

Dude, did 50% of the Indians and Malays in Malaya were massacred by Japanese during WWII?? They did not. Chinese did.

It is NOT the fighting that I am talking about. It is the SUFFERING.

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Successful people make use of whatever that they have. Good and bad from their gene.

Mind over matter.

But, if you are from a culture that believe you are what you born with and there is NOTHING that you can do to improve that, you need to change your culture. Or, you are DOOM. No one else can help you.

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post Aug 21 2010, 11:21 AM

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Being rich and being beautiful are 2 different things.

Being rich is of course better in the world today , but I am sure people don't mind being handsome or beautiful. It confers a certain form of advantage. We tend to treat photogenic people better , and they get off with less reprimand. It's HUMAN nature.

Our mind likes certain attributes, for example guys will always prefer girls with lighter skin colour.. It's sexier. woman may prefer guys with certain facial features like chiselled look.

My friends work in advertisement industry. THey look for people with certain features to appear in their advertisement , and I don't want to sound racist, but we can see for ourselves certain ethnic group is notably absent in advertisement industry.

But I don't agree that Whites are better looking people. The Arabs and the Jews also have good facial features. The whites have very sickly skin, full of freckles and most of them are FAT, and they do look a bit of psychotic to me. (beyond those pretty faces, you just don't know what sort of personality rubbish they have behind them).

But I am happy the way I look , and I am not defensive about my look . But I won't lie to you that beauty does have its place in the Human world. Otherwise aesthetics and cosmetics industry won't thrive.


The reason most asians treat the Whites better is because of some admiration to their physical attribute subconsciously. 80% of singaporean chinese want to be a WHITE .. why?
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post Aug 21 2010, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 21 2010, 11:21 AM)
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Soul2soul,

Most beautiful people tend to be Eurasians. Mixed blood between Europeans and Asians. Or mixed blood from multiple races.

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post Aug 22 2010, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 21 2010, 07:16 PM)
Soul2soul,

Most beautiful people tend to be Eurasians.  Mixed blood between Europeans and Asians.  Or mixed blood from multiple races.

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post Aug 29 2010, 04:13 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 16 2010, 09:49 PM)
Deadlocks,

The QUESTION here is do the person BELIEVES that their inferiority is

A) Cultural

Aka, something that they can learn and overcome.

B) Genetic

Aka, they are borned with this and they could NEVER COMPETE successfully with people with SUPERIOR GENE.

Now, there are people DO NOT BELIEVE in meritocracy to begin with.  You are either born into RULING ELITE or MARRIED into RULING ELITE family or you are DOOM for life.

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Even if it's GENETIC, how does it stops one from TRYING? Are there no good in the midst of bad gene pools? Are people forgetting that there are really exceptions?
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post Aug 29 2010, 04:29 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Aug 29 2010, 04:13 AM)
Even if it's GENETIC, how does it stops one from TRYING? Are there no good in the midst of bad gene pools? Are people forgetting that there are really exceptions?
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Deadlocks,

You do not get IT.

There are 2 kinds of people in the world.

1) Those that whine and believe that everything that went wrong is due to their gene.

2) Those that BELIEVE they could make a difference with their effort...

People that believe in gene DO NOT TRY at all. Hence, it is a self fulfilling prophecy. They are DOOM to fail.....

Ditto, people that believe they could do something with THEIR EFFORT will always DO SOMETHING. Hence, they could not fail....

It is ALWAYS in our mind......

We are what we CHOOSE to believe......

There are NO BAD GENE to begin with. Unless you are death because of your gene, it is always a trade off...

Let's take me as an example....

My family has VERY BAD gene on eye sight.... Me and my children are short sighted since 3 to 4 years old.. In my case, my family were so poor that I had no eye glasses. Hence, I could hardly see anything without sitting in the front row in the class. But, our BAD GENE on eye sight make us very good in hearing. Almost all in my family has PERFECT PITCH. Our gene make us good in music....

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 29 2010, 04:29 AM)
Deadlocks,

You do not get IT.

There are 2 kinds of people in the world.

1) Those that whine and believe that everything that went wrong is due to their gene.

2) Those that BELIEVE they could make a difference with their effort...

People that believe in gene DO NOT TRY at all.  Hence, it is a self fulfilling prophecy.  They are DOOM to fail.....

Ditto, people that believe they could do something with THEIR EFFORT will always DO SOMETHING.  Hence, they could not fail....

It is ALWAYS in our mind......

We are what we CHOOSE to believe......

There are NO BAD GENE to begin with.  Unless you are death because of your gene, it is always a trade off... 

Let's take me as an example....

My family has VERY BAD gene on eye sight.... Me and my children are short sighted since 3 to 4 years old.. In my case, my family were so poor that I had no eye glasses.  Hence, I could hardly see anything without sitting in the front row in the class.  But, our BAD GENE on eye sight make us very good in hearing.  Almost all in my family has PERFECT PITCH.  Our gene make us good in music....

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The idea isn't about believing that your gene is inferior hence, NOT TRYING at all. It is to understand that there are really people out there who are better, even in terms of genetic superiority, so that people will always acknowledge that they need to improve themselves.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Aug 29 2010, 04:13 AM)
Even if it's GENETIC, how does it stops one from TRYING? Are there no good in the midst of bad gene pools? Are people forgetting that there are really exceptions?
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No, there is nothing stopping you from trying. Only those telling you that "you are weak, it is impossible, don't waste time, you need help all the time because you can't do anything on your own, don't bother because we know better than you," those are the people trying to stop you.

And if you believed them, then no matter what genes you have you would have failed. A person with 20/20 vision can be fooled into buying glasses, a young beauty can be taught that makeup is still essential, a person of sound mind and healthy body can be convinced that he cannot run.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 21 2010, 07:16 PM)
Soul2soul,

Most beautiful people tend to be Eurasians.  Mixed blood between Europeans and Asians.  Or mixed blood from multiple races.

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While I do share in your tastes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and varies from place to place, community to community, individual to individual and time.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 29 2010, 04:29 AM)
Deadlocks,

You do not get IT.

There are 2 kinds of people in the world.

1) Those that whine and believe that everything that went wrong is due to their gene.

2) Those that BELIEVE they could make a difference with their effort...

People that believe in gene DO NOT TRY at all.  Hence, it is a self fulfilling prophecy.  They are DOOM to fail.....

Ditto, people that believe they could do something with THEIR EFFORT will always DO SOMETHING.  Hence, they could not fail....

It is ALWAYS in our mind......

We are what we CHOOSE to believe......

There are NO BAD GENE to begin with.  Unless you are death because of your gene, it is always a trade off... 

Let's take me as an example....

My family has VERY BAD gene on eye sight.... Me and my children are short sighted since 3 to 4 years old.. In my case, my family were so poor that I had no eye glasses.  Hence, I could hardly see anything without sitting in the front row in the class.  But, our BAD GENE on eye sight make us very good in hearing.  Almost all in my family has PERFECT PITCH.  Our gene make us good in music....

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The idea isn't about believing that your gene is inferior hence, NOT TRYING at all. It is to understand that there are really people out there who are better, even in terms of genetic superiority, so that people will always acknowledge that they need to improve themselves.
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How about this statement? We are the human race.
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Aug 19 2010, 06:57 PM)
I for one believe, everyone is born equal. Cultural factor do not exist since the day of ice age.

Cultural is something human created, and as we aged, it becomes history and part of our everyday's practise (culture).

Someone has to starts first, before others imitates and follows.
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Yes, culture are human-made and is a way for human to improve their lives.

Culture is what makes human unique because of the diversity of culture that we have.



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QUOTE(budi_89 @ Dec 3 2011, 03:59 PM)
How about this statement? We are the human race.
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Do you really think that way? Then how come you have more friends which came from a specific race than any other race?

QUOTE(studilicious @ Dec 6 2011, 03:20 PM)
Yes, culture are human-made and is a way for human to improve their lives.

Culture is what makes human unique because of the diversity of culture that we have.
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Be wary of how you use the word "diversity". While you think it makes you unique because of your culture, you will reject other so-called diversities because they CONFLICT with your culture norms and beliefs.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 29 2010, 04:29 AM)

Ditto, people that believe they could do something with THEIR EFFORT will always DO SOMETHING.  Hence, they could not fail....

It is ALWAYS in our mind......

We are what we CHOOSE to believe......

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IMO, this debate is going no where.

But anyways, we are, what we choose to believe, and cultural diversity is always there since the birth of civilization, the only problem depends on how each and every individual deciphers and accepts other cultural ways. Its just a matter of acceptance. I cant accept you, so you just have to accept me. In comes with the ego, superiority complex, educational debates, and so on and so forth.
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