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TSeric138
post Jul 2 2010, 04:21 PM, updated 15y ago

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Origin Class : Mammalia
Subclass : Marsupialia
Order : Diprotodontia
Suborder : Phalangerida
Superfamily : Petauroidea
Family : Petauridae

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A ) Introduction :-


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Sugar gliders are little marsupials that have been taken as exotic pets in many countries. These creatures are different from normal pet rodents like hamsters, mice and rats. They have character, mood swings, emotional bonds and the sweetest nature for a pet that comes in such a small package. Commonly mistaken as flying squirrels, sugar gliders can be both easy and hard to take care. Their general care is much more complicated than pet rodents and they require a lot of affection and attention from its owners. Look at it this way, gliders are like 3 year old kids. They act cute and can annoy us sometimes while at the same time need our total attention and bond.

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What is a sugar glider ?
A sugar glider is a small marsupial possum from Australia, and parts of Indonesia and New Guinea. They are not related to flying squirrels, and are considered exotic animals in the United States. Sugar Gliders are nocturnal, meaning they are active during the night, and asleep during the day.


Where did they get that name ?
Their name comes from their two obvious characteristics. Sugar or Honey because of their preference of sweet things, and Gliders for their gliding membrane called a patagium.


What does a sugar glider look like ?
An adult sugar glider head and body measure about 5 to 6 inches in length with a tail equal in length to aid in balance and gliding. An adult male in proper body condition weighs about 100g to 130g, where as an adult female will be around 90g.

The tail is fluffy, often curls on the end and usually is longer than the body length.

Sugar gliders have hairless ears that can be moved independently in order to pick up the smallest sounds.

A "wild type" or "standard" color sugar glider is gray or brownish in color with a long black stripe that runs from its’ nose to the end of the back. The underside of a sugar glider is a cream or white color. The last inch or so of the tail is black or brown.

They have large protruding eyes, like most nocturnal animals, to allow for a wider field of vision.

A sugar glider has five digits on each forefoot, with sharp claws to help grip branches. The hind feet also have 5 digits, and include a partially fused together 2nd and 3rd digit used for a grooming comb. There is also an enlarged, clawless, opposable big toe.

The sugar glider has a patagium, a furred membrane of skin that connects to the wrists and ankles on each side of the glider, used for gliding.

Sugar glider joeys are normally a nice slivery grey but as they age, they will shed away this soft joey coat and replace with their true colours. Some glider colours that we have here are the normal grays and a few shades of browns. Some would turn brown if they constantly stay in coconuts because of staining to the fur. You should not worry about the colours, for each sugar glider is unique in its own little way.

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TSeric138
post Jul 2 2010, 04:22 PM

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B ) Sugar Glider as Pets

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a ) Right Pet for You ?

Sugar Gliders are great animals, and can be a wonderful addition to your family. However, please consider what is best for the animal and yourself, as there are many PRO and CON for being a sugar glider owner. Too many times do people rush into buying these animals before looking at all factors, leaving many sugar gliders abandoned, homeless, sick, and even dead.

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Before you decide if a Sugar Glider is right for you,
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b ) Warning

Some night markets sell sugar gliders. Please be careful! People that choose to sell at these places usually are looking to "make a sale" and will pray upon impulse buyers. These "sellers" often come across as very knowledge, charismatic, and nice. Do your research extensively before choosing a place to buy your new pet. If they can't wait for you to do a bit of research, then either they have something to hide and/or they won't be there to help you along the way if you have any questions after your new baby comes home. The sugar glider community is relatively small. Ask for references, make use of online sugar glider communities, or even ask other sugar glider breeders. Make an informed decision when buying a sugar glider.

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These are photos taken at a PETSTORE, a very well known. Haih.
Notice the gliders are piled up to keep themselves warm. The bowl is empty, not a sign of a drop of water. The bedding is harmful, not to be used at all for gliders. And apple skins are to be the one found in the Exo Terra feeder. Feeding them with apples only? OMG. Gliders dont have any sleeping quarters too. SIGH.


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Avoid IMPULSIVE BUYING without Researching At First !WHY ? Consider these :-

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As responsible sugar glider owners/lovers, we must do our best to educate potential owners. Most importantly, don't buy a sugar glider to "save" or "rescue" it. It only gives them room for more! Also, understand that many flea market/trade show vendors may only be guilty of one or two points listed above, others may be much worse.

The THUMB OF RULES is : A good n responsible breeder will be happy n wiling to show their buyer the breeding room n how they keep their glider. They make no attempt to hide anything from their buyer.

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c ) Choosing

We would recommend getting a sugar glider from a local knowledgeable breeder. This way, you can have someone locally that can help you with any questions you may have with you new glider, after it comes home. Also, you will have a chance to visit the place your glider is being born and raised, making sure it is clean and a safe place. You may also be able to find sugar gliders in a local pet store, but please, make sure the pet store is knowledgeable in sugar gliders. There are many pet stores that sell sugar gliders, but have very little knowledge in care or diet. Never try to save a sugar glider from a pet store or irresponsible breeder by buying the animal, as this will only encourage them.

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Always ask questions when choosing a place to get your glider such as :-

How long have they been in business?

Is there a guarantee of health?

Do they offer "after-sale" support?

Do they have any references?

You can expect a lot of questions being asked to you also. As a good breeder, they will make sure there sugar gliders are going to a good home. Too many people rush into getting these wonderful animals without considering what is best for the sugar glider or themselves, leaving many sugar gliders homeless as soon as the novelty wears off.

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i ) Choosing your sugar glider :

Once you decide on where to get your glider, the time has come to pick your new glider. I would recommend getting a baby glider approximately 8-10 weeks out of pouch. Never purchase a sugar glider younger than 8 weeks of age. Always choose a glider that is bright eyed and bushy tailed, as this would mean that the glider is fully weaned, and ready to live on it's own. Make sure the young glider is eating properly, and isn't suckling on the mother any longer. You want a glider that is active, alert, and curious in nature. Be sure that the stools (poop) of the sugar glider is formed properly, and looks similar to moist mouse droppings. Ask to handle the glider, it shouldn't act afraid to be handled, and run at the first chance it gets. Every sugar glider is different. Some gliders may be shy around strangers. In cases such as these watch the breeder/owner handle the glider. If the glider appears afraid or tries to escape from the breeder/owner, ask questions. Try to keep in mind that even gliders can have a bad day, but be aware of the sugar gliders temperament.

ii ) Where to take caution when getting your sugar glider :

Pet Stores
There may be a FEW exceptions to this rule, however when possible avoid purchasing sugar gliders from petstores. Sugar gliders are nocturnal animals requiring daily human interaction. Most pet stores are closed during the times the sugar glider would be most active and wanting attention. Pet stores are loud, and can be quite busy with many different sounds and smells causing stress to the sugar gliders in their care. Most pet store employees know little about these wonderful creatures, their care, and their diet. A lot of pet stores will look to "simplify" a gliders diet, in turn compromising a gliders health, as well as passing on inaccurate information to new sugar gliders owners. Should you find a pet store you believe is safe, be sure to ask questions. Test them on their knowledge, and then decide.

Glider Mills
These are sad places where sugar gliders are kept in the poorest conditions. Little is thought of their care, health, or wellbeing. Animals coming from these places can be sick, and carry several different illnesses.

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d ) One or Two ?

Sugar gliders are very social animals. It is usually recommended that sugar gliders are kept in pairs. Gliders that are lonely can over groom, or even self mutilate. Please understand that loneliness is NOT the only possible cause of a sugar glider that is self mutilating. If you ever experience a sugar glider self mutilating, get to a knowledgeable vet ASAP. Extremely lonely and depressed sugar gliders have also been known to stop eating and basically "loose the will to live". Although these are extreme cases, it is something a responsible sugar glider owner must take into consideration and be prepared for.

Some sugar gliders tend to be "ok" when they are alone, but are prone to obesity and boredom. While you are a great "friend" and "playmate" for your sugar glider, you can't play, wrestle, and communicate like another sugar glider would. People are not usually nocturnal like sugar gliders. They will need someone to play and interact with in the wee hours of the morning, and a warm body to cuddle up to while they are asleep in their cage. From the lack of playing and stimulation that another sugar glider can provide, some sugar gliders may over eat and become obese. Of course there have been a select few cases where a sugar glider really was just fine being the only glider, but that is truly rare. Any sugar glider that is housed alone needs to be watched carefully to ensure the animals health and happiness remain intact. We do not recommend sugar gliders to be housed alone long term.

However, for first-timer to handle two unbonded sugar gliders is a bit tough and messy. We encourage newbie to get one FIRST, cope up with the first sugar glider's behavior, sounds, and bonded with it then proceed to the second one.
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e ) Boy or Girl ?

What sex makes a better pet ?

Overall there are no relation to sex and temperament in sugar gliders. Males and females can be equally calm, loving, and bonded. Just like people, each sugar glider has a different personality. It is recommended when looking for a pet, to meet them in person before adoption. This will ensure that the sugar glider’s personality fits yours.

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i ) Boy

Tell me a little about the males :
Males have scent glands located on their neck, chest, anus, and forehead, used to mark their territory. The smell is faint and hardly noticeable when the glider is in a clean habitat, on a good diet, and in good health. Intact adult males can be identified by the presence of a bald spot, on it's forehead, and the chest gland can also be seen. Males neutered before puberty, do not develop the scent glands responsible for the bald spots. Adult males will loose their bald spots upon neutering, as their scent glands will become inactive. The male sugar glider has a bifurcated penis which means it is divided in two. The penis is thin, long, and pink. Often times new owners will mistake their penis for a worm, or intestine. Males can be identified by the presence of a scrotum that has the appearance of a wart where you would expect a belly button to be. Males will reach sexual mature between 4 to 12 months of age depending on genetics, diet, and care. The development of the bald spots caused by active scent glands is a sign the male has reached sexual maturity.
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ii ) Girl

Tell me a little about the females :
Females can be identified by the pouch opening on her abdomen. The pouch opening is viewed as a vertical slit where you would expect to see a belly button. Females will mature between 6 to 18 months of age, depending on her conditions, genetics, and diet. The younger the female, the higher risk of neglected babies. Female sugar gliders have 2 separate vaginae and cervixes and a divided uterus Female sugar gliders cycle about once every 29 days. Pregnancy for a female lasts between 15-17 days. Upon giving birth, the babies move up into the pouch where they will remain the next 60-70 days. Females will usually breed until they are between 5-8 years of age. Some may breed longer. Females normally have 1 to 2 babies at a time. It is possible for a female to have up to 4 joeys in the pouch at a time. A female’s milk changes often during the developmental stages of the baby in the pouch. Female sugar gliders are able to maintain babies of different developmental stages. Each milk gland works individually and is able to change and support each baby at their stage of development.

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f ) What to Expect ?

On the visit, what to expect ?

So you have decided that a sugar glider may be the right pet for you. Breeders love to meet potential owners and their families. Be prepared to stay a while, as a normal visit can last 2 hours or more. Make a list of any questions that you have. While you are there, you can meet and handle some of the gliders, as well as learn what it takes to be a good glider parent. Most people come to knowing little about these wonderful animals however they leave there with a great amount of knowledge to decide if this is the right pet for them. We don’t think you should rush your in making your decision, and encourage you to think everything over.

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Before your new addition comes home, what to expect ?

You have done your research, and decided that a sugar glider is the right pet for you. Now, you will need to do a little shopping. Be sure that you have everything you need before your little ones come home, this will make the home coming day run a lot smoother and less stressful for everyone.

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SHOPPING LIST :-

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TSeric138
post Jul 2 2010, 04:23 PM

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C ) Care

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Before Getting Your Glider(s) HOME, please consider these :-

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a ) Housing

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i ) Size [ Small, Medium, DIY ]
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ii ) Accessories [ Sleeping Pouch ]
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iii ) Feeder [ Metal Bowl, Plate ]
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iv ) Waterer [ Living World, Critter Canteen ]


v ) Toys [ Wheel, Bird Toy, DIY Stuff ]
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vi ) Bedding [ Breeder Celect, Newspaper ]


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b ) Bonding

Bonding with your sugar glider can be a rough road, although once you get there, it is worth the trip. Gliders are very social animals, and bond fairly easy. The more time you spend with your glider, the stronger your bond will be.

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There are a few tips that can help make this process easier on you and your new sugar glider :-

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i ) How to Start ? [ Time, Love, Patience, Consistency ]

ii ) Aid [ Bonding Pouch, Scent Patch, Tent Time ]

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c ) Introducing

Introducing sugar gliders can be extremely simple in some cases, but it can also be a long, slow, and stressful process.

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There are a few important things to consider when introducing new sugar gliders :-

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How to introduce sugar gliders :-


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Tips for newly introduced sugar gliders :-

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i ) Cage [ side by side ]


ii ) Pouch [ through mesh ]


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d ) Nail Trimming

The nails of your glider are made to cling to branches, climb trees, leaping and griping. Their little nails left untrimmed can cause little punctures up and down your skin while you are letting them play on you. This in turn could allow bacteria into your skin, which can result in a condition known as dermatitis. Trimming the nails of your glider is important not only to you, but as a safety precaution to them as well. It may take 2 people to trim your gliders nails until you get the hang of it.

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You will need :-

i ) A towel / sleeping pouch

ii ) Nail Clippers

iii ) Another helping hand if available

iv ) Corn Starch, Nitrate Stick, or Blood Stopper

v ) Confidence


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It is best to trim your gliders nails in the morning, when they are tired. Some gliders will allow you to trim their nails quite easily as they become used to the process. Use the towel to hold the glider, be careful not to hold it too tightly. If needed, cover your glider's head to reduce stress. Take the nail clippers and clip off the very end of each nail. Be careful not to cut too much of the nail. It will bleed if you cut off too much. Should bleeding occur, use cornstarch, nitrate sticks or blood stopper to help clot the blood and stop the bleeding.

There are also other things you can do to help keep your glider's nails down to size. Such as using a product from called the Nail-O-Matic. These products are both very helpful, however the Emery Track is adjustable to fit in many different wheel styles, and in my experience works faster, and holds up longer.

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post Jul 2 2010, 04:23 PM

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D ) Diet & Nutrition


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There are many different diets available for your sugar glider, each diet has it's ups and downs. It really is controversial as to what the best diet is for a sugar glider in captivity.

Whether it is HPW Diet, BML Diet, PML Diet or others recognized diet, it's really up to you. The choice is yours to make.

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Although any diet you choose, keep the following in mind :-

• A healthy diet is VERY important, serious health conditions will arise if your glider is not feed properly.

• Keep a positive calcium to phosphorous ratio, use calcium supplements that are non-phosphorous.
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• A sugar gliders diet should consist of a protein source, vitamins, fruits and vegetables.

• Use vitamin supplements when necessary, but don't over do it, too many vitamins can be just as harmful as not enough.

• Start out by feeding about 3-4 tablespoons of food per night, per glider. If they eat it all the first night add a little more the next night until they leave only a little bit. Remember a sugar gliders stomach is about the same size of your thumbnail, and only holds less than a tablespoon of food/water.

• Often times breeders will offer pregnant or lactating mothers extra protein. Before doing this, be sure it fits into your current diet plan.

• Always follow the directions of your chosen diet.

• Fresh water and a high quality staple food must be available at all times.

• Feed you glider a varied diet within your chosen diet plan. This will prevent food boredom, and ensures a balanced diet. Example, feed various fruits, juices, vegetables, etc.

• Cat food or pellet base diets are not recommended. Sugar gliders are sap suckers, by feeding large amounts of hard food can lead to an infection in the jaw known as “lumpy jaw”.

• Do not mix diets. Each diet is balanced with the right amount of vitamins and minerals. Mixing diets can affect these balances resulting in either too much, or not enough of something.

• Give the diet a chance before deciding your gliders don't like it. Sugar Gliders can be like 2 year olds, and have similar eating patterns. One week they will go without touching any fruit, the next that is all they will eat.

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post Jul 2 2010, 04:24 PM

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E ) Health & Hazard
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a ) Check Up

You need to bring your sugar gliders for a health check up, when you first took it from your breeder or petstore. Make sure your sugar gliders has a clean bill of health, so as to avoid transmiting unknown diseases to your current pets or existing sugar gliders.

In addition, you are encouraged to bring your sugar glider for regular medical check up every 4-6months. Sugar gliders who consume live insects may need to deworm regularly in order to maintain their tip top health condition.

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b ) Disease & Disorder

Sugar gliders are excellent in hiding their illness, so make sure you're always alert about your gliders when they are sick. If your pet shows signs of illness, do not give it any medications unless prescribed by your veterinarian. Remember that with the appearance of any clinical signs, a qualified veterinarian should be allowed to make a definitive diagnosis. Identifying and treating diseases in their early stages is the key to successful treatment and cure. Like many other exotic species that become ill, sick sugar gliders are very fragile, and require prompt veterinary attention.

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Sick Glider

Upon request, below are one of the incident that happened on a sugar glider of forum member here. This is the first and rare disease encountered by sugar glider owner, nothing much can be done for treatment but it is good to pick up the information.

'Dr Jenny confirmed that Nutmeg died from organ failure, most likely the heart failure was the main cause because her heart overworked and her lungs cannot breath'

'The body naturally has a back-up system and usually if the body detects that an organ is failing, it will regenerate to overcome the problem but once the organ is deteriorating badly, the body cannot catch up and thus leads to organ disease and failure.'

'Sugar gliders are too small to detect such things. For bigger animals, a simple blood test and ultrasound can detect it. But for a blood test, a minimum of 3ml is required. 3ml of blood can cause death to a sugar glider due to blood loss.'

'According to Dr Jenny, a special ultrasound machine for small animals can only help and it is not available in Malaysia and many parts of the world. It’s a rare machine.'

'We can never know when organ failure can happen to a glider or anything smaller than a large rabbit. We can only detect it once it is too late.'

Symptoms:
Panting, shortness of breath
Lack of appetite
Sleeping on her back or hanging her front body to sleep upright (because of the water in lungs, she tried to take the pressure of the water off her chest)
Pale nose and skin
Inactive

'It is sad that since the sugar glider is so small, there is no treatment for it.'


Full Article:
http://imjustnotgoodwithwords.blogspot.com...-of-nutmeg.html
http://imjustnotgoodwithwords.blogspot.com...ry-of-joey.html

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Obesity :-
- Gliders that are obese or overweight generally are inactive and very round in body size.
Treatment : A bigger living environment with plenty of toys to stimulate foraging activity and a wheel.

Trembling or Shakiness :-
- Shaking or shivering right after waking up from sleep is normal for a glider. But if it continues after a few moments, especially the back legs and the glider has weak limbs, it could mean a calcium deficiency problem.
Treatment : Calcium supplement has to be given if it is the early stages. The diet has to be changed. Best to visit a vet for advice and treatment.

Hair Loss :-
- If hair loss is at the center of a male's head, then it is normal as that is the male's scent gland. If hair loss is at other body parts, be it in hairless spots or thinning of hair, it could mean mites or fungul infection or malnutrition.
Treatment : Seek a vet for treatment.

Lack of Appetite :-
- A drop in appetite or eating very little could mean a few things. Stress can be one of them and this is normally seen with gliders in new homes. Another would be internal parasites, as worms and microorganism in the gut can cause a drop in appetite. Another would be the teeth or jaw. Check the teeth for any breakage and make sure there is no swelling to the gums.
Treatment : If it is from new surroundings, it is normal. If appetite is small, visit a vet and get your glider dewormed. If teeth has problems, visit a vet for treatment.

Diarrhea :-
- Watery stool. If the stool or poo is moist like tooth paste, then it is normal but if the poo is wet and has no shape, it is diarrhea. It can be caused by new food, infected or spoiled food, or parasites.
Treatment : Home treatment would be to provide Glucose supplement and Gatorade or a non-carbonated isotonic drink diluted with water and increase in food high in fiber. A visit to the vet is a must as diarrhea is fatal, especially to joeys.

Dehydration :-
- A dehydrated glider will have dull looking eyes, very stiff skin. Check your glider's hydration by pinching the skin behind the neck. If it retracts in a second, your glider is safe but if the skin fold is still there after 1 second, then your glider is dehydrated and would need liquids fast.
Treatment : Feed water with glucose mixed with Gatorade or a non-carbonated isotonic drink. 1 water to 1 glucose mixture ratio.

Constipation :-
- A glider would have constipation if it doesn't take enough fruits and water. The usual signs are seen when a glider hisses when it is defecating or pooing.
Treatment : A teaspoon of pure apple juice twice a day would cure this.

Urinary Tract Infection :-
- This means difficulty in peeing. These may include bladder infections, urinary blockages, andkidney disease. These problems may be more common in gliders on very high-protein,high-mineral diets, such as large amounts of regular cat food. Signs may include bloody urine, straining to urinate or dribbling urine, lethargy, decreased appetite, increased thirst or urine output, protruding and/or discolored penis, and weight loss.
Treatment : Need antibiotics from vet.

Hissing during Urinating :-- It is an early sign of difficulty in peeing.
Treatment : Quickly get hold of pure cranberry juice and feed a teaspoon of it twice a day to your glider.

[B]Blindness :-[/B]
- Known as partial blindness in gliders, it is actually the cause from a high in fat diet. Gliders taking mainly mealworms or a lot of sunflower seeds in their diet would develop a layer on the eye that may look like your glider turned blind.
Treatment : Cut out on fatty food, change the diet.

Hind Leg Paralysis :-
- Weakness of the back legs. Can be seen when a glider has problems climbing, walking, excessively having trembling legs and may not be active anymore.
Treatment : This is due to a bad diet that lacks in calcium. Seek vet for treatment and change the diet. Include calcium supplements.


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d ) Glider Proofing

When letting your sugar gliders out to play, it is always a good idea to "glider-proof" the room first. Removing any dangerous situations that the sugar glider could get into can save it's life.

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post Jul 2 2010, 04:25 PM

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F ) Recommended

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a ) Vet


1) Dr Jenny

My Vet Clinic
No. 29-G, Jalan Cecawi 6/33, Seksyen 6, Kota Damansara, 47810 PJ.
Tel: 03-6142 2122

Dr Jenny can neuter male gliders safely.
The clinic can deworm and treat serious conditions for gliders.
Call before you go to make an appointment.

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2) Dr Yeoh


YEOH VETERINARY CLINIC & SURGERY
126, Jln SS 24/2, Tmn Megah, 47301 PJ, Selangor
Tel: 03-78048684

Dr Yeoh can neuter male gliders safely.
The clinic is able to treat minor things on gliders and general check up but not great for serious cases.
Call to make an appointment.

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G ) Notice Board

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a ) Gathering

Gliders 'N Us


Date: 09 January 2011
Time: 11.00a.m - 4.00p.m
Day: Sunday
Venue: Pet Shack, Sunway Mentari Business Park (refer www.petshack.com.my for location map)
Activities: DIY Session, Sugar Glider Sharing Session, Light refreshment will be served, 'Glider Idol' Contest, Various games & prizes are waiting for YOU!



How to participate in 'Glider Idol' Photo Contest?
1.'Like' the page http://www.facebook.com/petshack
2. Email a picture of your glider to petshack@gmail.com. Include your name as per IC, your glider's name, contact number and email address.
3. We will upload your photo to the contest photo album within 24 hours.
4. Share your photo with your friends and ask them to vote 'LIKE' (They will need to 'like' the page first)

How to join the event?
Click on the facebook event link on below and RSVP!
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/ev...135476879844136


You gonna regret if you miss this!


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post Jul 2 2010, 04:27 PM

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LYN SUGAR GLIDER OWNERS :-

1 ) kelvin_faye :
Cairo, DOA : 01/09/08
Daisha, DOA : 01/10/08


2 ) nezumitaro :
BB, OOP : 23/05/05
Kiro, OOP : 27/06/08
Oki, OOP: 21/02/09
Iko, OOP: 21/02/09


3 ) hackerzx :
Chuui, DOA : 01/08/07

4 ) SugarCoatedCandy :
Bella
Jayden
Lana

5 ) liyanaomar :
Phoebe
Joey
Naomi

6 ) Eric138 & Kaken :
Money
Micky
Belle
Sheila
Lara
, DOB: 15/06/09

7 ) muchan86 :
Dakota, DOA : 18/08/08

8 ) bardz :
Kurin de la Venga
Lilith Lazinsca
Fola
, DOB : 19/12/08, OOP : 24/02/09

9 ) pink_baby :
Minnie

10 ) babydugong & jtl :
Athena
Kit
Kat

11 ) wafiazizul :
Haru
Aki

12 ) emino :
Teddy, DOA : 01/02/08
Vicky, DOA : 06/06/08

13 ) shakeera :
Shino, DOA : 21/06/08
Sachi, DOA : 11/10/08
Shyla, DOA : 21/03/09
Acey, OOP : 06/07/09

14 ) teejay:
Gadget
QiQi
Bubba
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Timon
Pumba


15 ) ReBeLLioN :
Senget
Gelong
Milah
, OOP : 20/02/09
Leha, OOP : 20/02/09

16 ) mattemily_85 :
Gino
Lucas

Tiny

17 ) hanin_schum :
Dante
Danni

18 ) onezkatana :
Mac
Apple

19 ) jitshiong :
Twinkle, DOA : 21/10/05
Dexter, OOP : +- 18/02/08
Quincy, OOP : +- 01/07
Cassie, OOP : 23/02/08
Bear, OOP : 07/07/09
Queenie, DOA : May 09

20 ) vincent09 :
Ah Pit, almost 3 years as of 24/04/09

21 ) shazman :
Rocky, DOA : 23/07/08
Rambo, DOA : 30/07/08
Mimi, DOA : 23/09/08
Momo, DOA : 28/09/08
Sunti, DOA : 10/02/09
Dara, DOA : 16/04/09
Eamon, DOB : 19/12/08, OOP : 24/02/09

22 ) sharil :
Gizmo, DOA : 22/02/07
Molly, DOA : 23/02/08

23 ) cokekies :
Sweety, DOA : 08/02/09
Candy, DOA : 04/04/09

24 ) faerieC :
Milly, DOA : 03/09/08

25 ) mselee :
Kurin de la Vega
Lilith Lazinsca
Fola Lola, DOB : 19/12/08, OOP : 24/02/09
Don Giancarlo , DOA : 19/12/08
Don Demetrio , DOA : 06/02/09
Ribbon, DOA : 02/05/2009

26 ) chika loco :
Twileena, DOA : 26/11/08
Damian, DOA : 13/12/08

27 ) mingwei86 :
Salt, DOA : 02/03/09
Pepper, DOA : 02/03/09

28 ) RyoKenzaki :
Jelly, DOA : 01/06/09

29 ) afcmh :
MOMO, OOP : 14/05/09, DOA : 10/07/09

30 ) saramelia :
Ryo, OOP : 08/03/09, DOA : 25/05/09
Rynee, OOP : 19 /06/09, DOA : 01/09/09

31 ) Yvaine :
Baby Boy, DOA : 06/09/06
Baby Girl, DOA : 01/06/07
Cici, DOB : 08/02/09

33) Violin! :
Haylie, DOA : 04/06/09
Joshie, DOA : 04/06/09

34 ) loritanah :
Lulu, DOA : 19/05/09

35) yaniena:
mulan, DOA: 26/07/2009

36) sillyash :
rufus, DOB: 29/5/2009

37) farid87 :
panda , DOA 06/08/09

38) cacarots :
Cacarot, DOA 06/08/09

39) Lis :
Venita, DOA : 25/04/09
Molly, DOA : 21/06/09

40) Jolenelarhhs :
Crislyn , DOA : 09/07/09
Criscille, DOB: 01/09/09, DOA: 01/03/10

41) afiqheafy & lalatrashh :
Sugus
Skittles , OOP 15/05/09, DOA 23/08/09

42) Brazilianze
Bibiysh Babylon, DOB : 22/04/09, OOP : 28/06/09

43) Decoy_x
Blanket, DOA: 03/09/09

44) zaifer
Corn, DOA: 08/11/08

45) maxtee
Marlyn , DOA: 09/08/09
Caspian , DOB: 25/10/09, DOA: 25/12/09

46) elite87
Chico, DOA: 23/09/09

47) furious_spidey
Regalia, OOP = 08/09/09. DOA = 05/11/09

48) Jianshen
Sugar Baby, OOP = 10/08/09, DOA = 14/10/09

49) Amyhafiza
Lola, DOA = 07/08/09

50) Kimmiki
kiki-huhu, DOA= 25/10/09

51) Echah83
Zazi , DOA= 01/12/09
Chicha, DOA= 13/05/10, OOP= 09/03/10

52) Pser1990
C.P , DOA= 13/12/09
Jojo , DOA= 13/12/09

53) Babyvey
Meeko , DOA: 28/10/09
Xiao Gui, DOA: 28/10/09

54) eekang
Gizmo, DOA: 06/12/09
Baby
Pepper
, DOA: 06/12/09

55) Glidermama
RJ , DOA: 11/08/09
Furla, DOAl 11/12/09

56 ) darksterz
Tinkerbelle , DOA : 24/01/09
Tweedledee, OOP : 05/01/10

57) lyaz_zest
Agus Xavier, DOA: 24/01/10
Venus Exora, DOA: 31/01/10

58) jcmf
JJ, Female, DOArrival 20th oct 2008
BB, DOA: 25/10/09
Baby, OOP: 05/02/10

59) rystic
Welbi, DOA: 12/02/10

60) moe81
Molly, DOA: 26/02/10

61) Cabok
Yoka, DOA : 11/03/10
Poka , DOA : 11/03/10

62) myboo_1988
Hei Hei
Lam Lam

63) Badtzcarol
Shin, DOA: 13/05/10, DOB: 09/03/10

63) Geo
Momo, DOA: 16/05/10

64) banana_00
Girl, DOB: 17/04/10

65) bremboy
Stud, DOB: 14/08/09
Dior, DOB: 27/07/09

66) uSry^^
Jelly Sr, DOA: 11/06/10
Jelly Jr
Joey, OOP: 24/06/09

67) faidzal1982
Momo, DOB: 28/04/10, DOA: 10/07/10

68) Allena
Peanut, DOA: 17/12/09
Mia, DOA: 17/12/09
Apple, DOA: 28/12/09
Gizmo, DOA: 28/12/09
Bella, DOA: 28/12/09
Bell, DOA: 30/04/10
Kiwi, DOA: 16/06/10

69) Forge
Chopper, DOA: 26/06/10
CHICHI, DOA: 01/07/10

** Please POST to update : NAME, SEX, DOB[date of birth] or OOP[out of pouch] or DOA[date of adoption]. Thanks. **

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wow, this is fast. cant wait to get my glider, still a few months to go. Haiz.. been following this thread for a long time now, getting impatient..
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oh~new version~ ^o^~

2day bring my girl go to office
i give her some papaya treat, she sleep till blur blur
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it's pain...not like test bite >..<
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btw... is it advisable to remove the wheel 1st?
I thk the joeys will hurt themself..
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Not really nid to remove the wheel actually, a young joey can play wheel as well.. It's good for their bone development actually.. Unless they joey is really very very underaged like jus came out of the pouch..
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wola v16 congratz!!and kudoes to eric and sg gengz
hope everyone's sg prosper like this forum!!

dear eric pls add this 2 new sg name to my list icy-female and chili-male they are my first pair off joey oop on 20/6/2010.TQ

oh 1 more thing is pls also change my caspian DOB to OOP i think i give u the wrong info liow last time..... a million thankz.

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finally officially open..congrats glider thread on new version


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QUOTE(maxtee @ Jul 2 2010, 09:02 PM)
wola v16 congret!!and kudoes to eric and sg gengz
hope everyone's sg prosper like this forum!!

dear eric pls add this 2 new sg name to my list icy-female and chili-male they are my first pair off joey oop on 20/6/2010.TQ

oh 1 more thing is pls also change my caspian DOB to OOP i think i give u the wrong info liow last time..... a million thankz.
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thanks yueyi.they been growing bigger everyday since oop, much easy to handle this few day and eye are partly open but still abit crabby lol .... but its joy to have them and see them grow up , the parent are doing a good job in nursing and caring for them thanks to bugsy produst and many help from kelvin and sifu here.

1Q here abit mix up on the oop date lol

what is the excact time we say oop ??
1)joey frist seen emergered from pouch but not detached from mother tits
or
2)joey detached from mothers tits
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Both r oop, it's u who decide which one u want to follow.. I prefer the latter, which is when they detached from mommy's teat.. Coz they will spend more with parents and learn the norms of being a tame bond homebred glider.. If u plan to relocate them of coz.. U won't know what will happen..
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"setakat ne yg jual ada pork adalah pet safari ikano (brand Sunseed) and chubbypetgarden (pellet with papaya n pellet with eucalyptus)"

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guys, usually if we tke glider to vetrnar, how they charge for check up??
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It will usually cos bout 20 for the check-up.

Guys, any idea where Dr Jenny went?
She's no longer in MyVet...and according to the workers there, she's like heading to UK or something?
anybody can confirm this?
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WooooHoooo!!
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jitshiong>> there's a thread before saying that she is retiring?


uh. . i dont know how to sangkut my wooden wheel dekat my SG's sangkar. . .

does anyone know where i can get the instruction?? ;__;

i simply letak the wooden wheel dekat bawah. . ;__; x tau how to sangkut. .


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Yeah, inner source dat I got, told me dat she no more treats animal.. Reason is unsure..
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jitshiong>> there's a thread before saying that she is retiring?
uh. . i dont know how to sangkut my wooden wheel dekat my SG's sangkar. . .

does anyone know where i can get the instruction?? ;__;

i simply letak the wooden wheel dekat bawah. . ;__; x tau how to sangkut. .
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the stand u separate from the wheel 1st..
then u put the stand on the roof from the outside and the wheel fix to the stand from inside
can secure the stand with cable ties
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still looking for Wombaroo Possum Milk Replacer anyone can tell me where 2 find it...
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i saw it on their website
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habis stock already..=(
maybe u should ask anyone has spare/extra to share
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Hi,

I got one joey want for adoption (charge fees) coz I no time to take care. 2 months old male
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what a cute chubby girl u got there..but you're at the wrong section..
u should post here instead

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/443156
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what a cute chubby girl u got there..but you're at the wrong section..
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Hi,

I got one joey want for adoption (charge fees) coz I no time to take care. 2 months old male
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congratz eric on the ver 16^^..

i wish i can take care of it but my house hold not yet ready to buy nor adoption any sg. Hopefully next year it will be ready.
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QUOTE(royaltramp @ Jul 3 2010, 11:31 PM)
congratz eric on the ver 16^^..

i wish i can take care of it but my house hold not yet ready to buy nor adoption any sg. Hopefully next year it will be ready.
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QUOTE(Kelvenwai @ Jul 3 2010, 10:05 PM)
Hi,

I got one joey want for adoption (charge fees) coz I no time to take care. 2 months old male
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I'm sure there'll be a lot of ppl asking for it when u post for adoption...
make sure u filter them n give to the best person....
hopefully he can go to a good owner...
all the best!!
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I'm sure there'll be a lot of ppl asking for it when u post for adoption...
make sure u filter them n give to the best person....
hopefully he can go to a good owner...
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yueyi5730>> omg! that is sooo cutee!!!
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thanks kekeke...my boys..fresh photos just took..all shearing a dubia i dont have more for each so all share share


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just got my 1st joey! can i join the club?? hehehe~
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Dr. Jenny no longer working thr ? bt i hv appointment nxt sat....??

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just got my 1st joey! can i join the club?? hehehe~
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QUOTE(ylsy @ Jul 4 2010, 02:08 AM)
Dr. Jenny no longer working thr ? bt i hv appointment nxt sat....??
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aiks??
maybe u call up my vet clinic and see..
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eric...

just notice this.. my glider is not on the list in the first page??

pls add for me..

glider name: Blair
DOA: 6-oct-2009

thnx
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eric: plz put me on the front page list

glider name:
Chopper: D.O.A: 26 JUNE 2010
sex: male
Cici D.O.A: 1 JULY 2010
sex: female
Thanks all for helping me now both of them are more playfull n healthy..

ane many thanks to sifu,yueyi and pet shack for all the tunjuk ajar
hehehe...

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if Dr. Jenny is not available, then whr shoud I go to send my glider for checkups now? sad.gif
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Very nice, are both of them from hun?
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waaa... my glider become so pouch protetective!!! it will bark if i touch his puoch,,,
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waaa... my glider become so pouch protetective!!! it will bark if i touch his puoch,,,
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normally they crabb if they are pouch protective...
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it's in their nature to be pouch protective
it depends on u to take this habit off them, do the bonding process properly n when they trust u, the pouch protectiveness will wear off
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Meet my joey tongue.gif

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She doesn't move too much when i put her on the orchid, maybe she like the orchid laugh.gif

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 3 2010, 11:12 AM)
It will usually cos bout 20 for the check-up.

Guys, any idea where Dr Jenny went?
She's no longer in MyVet...and according to the workers there, she's like heading to UK or something?
anybody can confirm this?
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She's not in MyVet anymore, but isn't she at a different clinic or something? o__o I thought she was O:
That's what she told me the last time I brought my babies for check up.


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it's in their nature to be pouch protective
it depends on u to take this habit off them, do the bonding process properly n when they trust u, the pouch protectiveness will wear off
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owh.. now i,m trying to bonding with him, but he jarang2 out from the pouch~ sad.gif .. got any tips?
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owh.. now i,m trying to bonding with him, but he jarang2 out from the pouch~ sad.gif .. got any tips?
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1st 3 days let him be alone in the cage..use a fleece cloth or naju to cover the cage..let it explore the new environment by itself first..just put food every nite..dont try to grab him
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oo.i see.. ok2.. thanx~

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May I know how much normally will Dr. Yeoh charge for normal check up and deworming? thanks..

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QUOTE(babydaisy2 @ Jul 5 2010, 10:31 AM)
saw this when i got home after dinner yesterday... dont know why my russell likes to eat this way nowadays... biggrin.gif
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hahaha...really cute pose~

my one always take the treats and hide inside my cloth
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Not only yours.. Its their natural habit.. Even if u placed the food high enough, they will grab a piece and go to their own favourite sopts.. Hehe..

I waited till they r awake, then put in the food, they grab and "terbalik" at own favourite spots.. smile.gif Smart creatures..
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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Jul 5 2010, 11:16 AM)
Not only yours.. Its their natural habit.. Even if u placed the food high enough, they will grab a piece and go to their own favourite sopts.. Hehe..

I waited till they r awake, then put in the food, they grab and "terbalik" at own favourite spots.. smile.gif Smart creatures..
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Criscille loves sitting down in her food bowl. LOL! She used to sit in the compartment with food, but now she sits in the compartment without food. Don't have to keep trying to get rid of the food from her fur now. LOL!! (: [There are 2 compartments side by side in the bowl]
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Hi all, Im AL da Great , more into snakes especially pythons. im helping a fren here who in charge of Weekend Morning Talk show called Hujung Minggu Malaysia aired on TV1 from 7.30am til 9.30am.

They have this segment called Aksi Si Comel, where every Sunday, one animal will be appeared in the segment with the owner. The hosts will ask the owner about the basic care of the animal. The purpose of the segment is to educate people the right way of keeping animals.

Here is the detail;
Name of the Segmen: Aksi Si Comel in Hujung Minggu Malaysia
Tv Station : RTM
Channel :TV1
Language: Bahasa Malaysia
Duration: 5-7 minutes
Storyline: The host come to your place, then straight to ur animal cage, interview owner abit about food, basic care n such then the host will go back

Before this the owner have to come to Angkasapuri Kuala Lumpur to join the segment but this time , they want to visit your house coz based on their experience, bringing the animal to the studio will make them stress.like before the host will ask basic husbandry about the animal and wanna see how animal keeper kept their animal.



If you are interested to appeared in the show, do PM me for more detail ya.

p/s Azazel, Aros , Crazymouse, Rafigos, Camillenoir, Uzairi has appeared in the segment before.

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QUOTE(Al da Great @ Jul 6 2010, 05:38 PM)
Hi all, Im AL da Great , more into snakes especially pythons. im helping a fren here who in charge of Weekend Morning Talk show called Hujung Minggu Malaysia  aired on TV1 from 7.30am til 9.30am.

They have this segment called Aksi Si Comel, where every Sunday, one animal will be appeared in the segment with the owner. The hosts will ask the owner about the basic care of the animal. The purpose of the segment is to educate people the right way of keeping animals.

Here is the detail;
Name of the Segmen: Aksi Si Comel in Hujung Minggu Malaysia
Tv Station : RTM
Channel :TV1
Language: Bahasa Malaysia
Duration: 5-7 minutes
Storyline: The host come to your place, then straight to ur animal cage, interview owner abit about food, basic care n such then the host will go back

Before this the owner have to come to Angkasapuri Kuala Lumpur to join the segment but this time , they want to visit your house coz based on their experience, bringing the animal to the studio will make them stress.like before the host will ask basic husbandry about the animal and  wanna see how animal keeper kept their animal.
If you are interested to appeared in the show, do PM me for more detail ya.

p/s Azazel, Aros , Crazymouse, Rafigos, Camillenoir, Uzairi has appeared in the segment before.
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Others with decent mess can try though. whistling.gif
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any one can tell me how to serve hpw diet?? what sayur that will be nice for them? hehehe

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my sugar glider are more active during the day/afternoon.

is it normal?
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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 6 2010, 07:20 PM)
I'm not gonna shock the whole nation + my family with the 'semak' in my house. LOL

Others with decent mess can try though. whistling.gif
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any one can tell me how to serve hpw diet?? what sayur that will be nice for them? hehehe
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How to serve? jus put the hpw mixture on a saucer plate, then put it inside the cage...that's all..

Vegetables really depend on ur glider, some glider prefer this some glider prefer that... Jus make sure u avoid corn, rhubarb, iceberg lettuce, cucumber and etc.. Some are toxic for them, some are zero nutritional for glider..some are too high in phosphorus..

QUOTE(lulurin @ Jul 6 2010, 09:30 PM)
my sugar glider are more active during the day/afternoon.

is it normal?
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So u mean they wake up and jump around and eat during daytime? And they sleep at night?
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eric>> yea. . 0__o;; but during night she only wake up for a while, eat, tgk2, then sleep. 0__o;;
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hey just wana ask can anyone sele me a week stock of posuem milk replacemnt i need it badly..if can p.m me meet me anywhere in kl only..
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Jul 7 2010, 01:23 AM)
LOL..


Vegetables really depend on ur glider, some glider prefer this some glider prefer that... Jus make sure u avoid corn, rhubarb, iceberg lettuce, cucumber and etc.. Some are toxic for them, some are zero nutritional for glider..some are too high in phosphorus..

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Added on July 7, 2010, 12:13 pmsawi and carrot can?

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If male joey 2 months, female 4 months can put together dy?
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Emino: we only shoot the part that allowed by the owner la. dont worry. my house also messy. that y we call it home not show room.hehehe

any1 interested?
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QUOTE(Al da Great @ Jul 7 2010, 04:53 PM)
Emino: we only shoot the part that allowed by the owner la. dont worry. my house also messy. that y we call it home not show room.hehehe

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good to learnt so much from this threat.
i'm in the process of bonding with the gliders. smile.gif
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it seems that momo is bullying hiro... normally female will be very " sticky" with the male issit?
she is not only rubbing her head on his head but his body as well...
I'm so scared that momo's nail is too long and will injure hiro's eye...
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help! my sugar glider suddenly become sooo active! jumping here and there! DX
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QUOTE(lulurin @ Jul 8 2010, 08:35 PM)
help! my sugar glider suddenly become sooo active! jumping here and there! DX
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but then its between 10am-7pm onwards. wasn.t it suppose to be like, sleep in the morning n malam bangun active play here n there?
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QUOTE(lulurin @ Jul 8 2010, 09:25 PM)
but then its between 10am-7pm onwards. wasn.t it suppose to be like, sleep in the morning n malam bangun active play here n there?
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my joeys are making some squeking noise as i just put them together... is it normal?
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Emino: ala, we only want to show the animal la.not the whole house . dont be shy la k. pm me ur no i give u a call and explained everything u want to know
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until the sifu answers...lulurin, your gliders still joeys isit? not every glider will have the exact same clock...just like people ada yang bangun awal tidur lambat ada yang bangun lambat tidur lambat so as long as that lil fella is eating and sleeping and pooping within the normal range my suggestion is to let it be...

but you should check whether there is anythg that causing the animal to be distressed sampai takut nak relax ke or perhaps it is in tune to your routine? sometimes they are like ppl too...new situations new smells so exciting how to sleep?cover their cages well during the day with your old baju so that the smell with comfort them and see...

my gliders wake me up at 530-6 am by barking andthey play and eat til around 7 am pas tu dok dalam pouch groom and munch some more til they get to my office and go nuts til around 11 am baru makan and sleep but when they are at home in the cage on weeknds they'll just sleep the whole day...


Added on July 9, 2010, 7:58 amal da great try tanya kelvin...his DIY cage accessories are pretty fabulous if emino is too shy...mana tau kot kot if kelvin go emino might agree too?

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glider mama>>I notice, ada this one smell, dont know if its her pee, coz ussually it wont smell, hmn.. i'll try n re-cleen the cage again.
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my joeys are making some squeking noise as i just put them together... is it normal?
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QUOTE(glidermama @ Jul 9 2010, 07:57 AM)
until the sifu answers...lulurin, your gliders still joeys isit? not every glider will have the exact same clock...just like people ada yang bangun awal tidur lambat ada yang bangun lambat tidur lambat so as long as that lil fella is eating and sleeping and pooping within the normal range my suggestion is to let it be...

but you should check whether there is anythg that causing the animal to be distressed sampai takut nak relax ke or perhaps it is in tune to your routine? sometimes they are like ppl too...new situations new smells so exciting how to sleep?cover their cages well during the day with your old baju so that the smell with comfort them and see...

my gliders wake me up at 530-6 am by barking andthey play and eat til around 7 am pas tu dok dalam pouch groom and munch some more til they get to my office and go nuts til around 11 am baru makan and sleep but when they are at home in the cage on weeknds they'll just sleep the whole day...


Added on July 9, 2010, 7:58 amal da great try tanya kelvin...his DIY cage accessories are pretty fabulous if emino is too shy...mana tau kot kot if kelvin go emino might agree too?
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QUOTE(lulurin @ Jul 9 2010, 12:47 PM)
glider mama>>I notice, ada this one smell, dont know if its her pee, coz ussually it wont smell, hmn.. i'll try n re-cleen the cage again.
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What glidermama mean is a new scent will distress glider as well, jus like u sometime u change the cleaning detergent to clean the cage or u put on body lotion/perfume.. Their nose is damn sensitive..
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everythings fine now~ =D hehe~
clean the cage, jemur tengah panas~ n yay~ ok dy~

my sugar glider just had her first Gliderslurpp! She seems to love it! yay! XD
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QUOTE(geo @ Jul 8 2010, 10:59 PM)
my joeys are making some squeking noise as i just put them together... is it normal?
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if it's chirping sound it's normal..sometimes my gliders groom each other then sumtimes one groom the other to hard the other will chirp real loud..hahaha..
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as long as they r not fighting it's ok
but gotta monitor their interaction...
they might not fight now, but u won't know what will happen later
lol!!!
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yup.. i thk they are fighting.. female is always bullying the male one...
so now i always put them together when i'm awake to make sure nth happens...
b4 slp will seperate them again
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my sugar glider dont want to drink water.. anyone have some tips?
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hi guys... this is my first post in the Sugar Glider thread... so please bare with me if i asked lots of noob questions... tongue.gif

well... my wife just bought a sugar glider yesterday from a seller... a male one...
according to the seller the D.O.B. is 24th April... so it is 2.5 months now... i hope the joeys is not too young... sad.gif
i've been reading some guidelines in the first page of this thread... its a lot of info to swallow at one time... smile.gif

my questions are...
1) where can i buy the cage like in the pic in the first thread... i tried to search in the pet store thread but couldnt find it...
the seller did provide the cage but it is a small one and the space seems not enough for the sugar glider...
also... where can i buy the accessories for it?
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2) we plan to get another sugar glider as the pair for our sugar glider... ive read dat there are a few considerations to take note...
such as male adult didnt get along well with other male adult and also might harm other younger female...
so... 2.5 months is it consider adult? if not... what is the age dat is consider adult?
if we are going to get another sugar glider... wat are the sifus recommendation... is it male or female?

3) the seller did mention dat we are not suppose to give food/fruits from the fridge to the sugar glider... is it true? coz i read in other website it is ok to give food/fruits from the fridge to the sugar glider...

4) the seller also mention dat to get bonding... put some honey on our fingertip and let the sugar glider lick it... then i read in other website... it said honey is not recommended... which is true? can sifus here help me on this?

5) do we need to clean the sugar glider? the seller provide shampoo as well... actually the shampoo is to soften the rabbit/hamster fur... can we use it on the sugar glider?


Below is the details of our sugar glider... (can u update the post in the first page... smile.gif )

Name: Momo (male)
D.O.B.: 28th April 2010
D.O.A.: 10th July 2010

hope to hear from u guys soon... biggrin.gif


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my sugar glider dont want to drink water.. anyone have some tips?
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our sugar glider also dont drink water... at least i didnt see him drink water...
how do u guys give water to sugar glider? use the bottle like for hamster or in a bowl?

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sapik900906 @ faidzal1982
SG NORMALY seldom drink during day time while they asleep
u if feed them watery fruit like water melon or jambu air they dun rili drink much after tat ....
but for causious check for dehydration by following method show on fist page
put 2 water souce in the cage water bottle (same bottel for hamster)
and water bowl , when u see water in the bottle drop complely remove the water bowl, can hang the bottle near thier sleeping pouch and observe lol

happy bonding to both off u icon_rolleyes.gif

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1)cage the white one we call 5 ft cage and the black one we call 4ft cage..can be easily found if u seen it b4..accesories most are DIY toys u can see from this link
http://www.suzsugargliders.com/nosewaccessories.htm

2)i have 3 males no problem getting together...just need proper introduction(very important)..the oni problem with male is non neutered may smell a bit more than normal...if u neuter the male problem solve..and personally i feel they are less territorial if u neuter them so can get along better and introduction process is much faster..still i see dominancy issue but once they know and accept the alpha male then it's alright

3)well we can see that u got from a seller who dont know the basic needs of a sugar glider and i belive u didnt do enough research b4 getting a sugar glider.read the 1st page of the thread very helpful

4)RAW/WILD honey cannot give your gliders...processed honey is fine..if u feeding hpw as the main diet there's a lot of honey in it already..otherwise like me i'm using GliderSlurp as main diet i occasionally give some honey as treats
bonding is how u handle the joey...example like carry joey in bonding pouch,hang "smelly" clothes on the cage,talking softly to them...all so that the glider is use to your smell and voice

5)shampoo is a big no..Sugar gliders dont need to bathe..no sand bath, no shampoo, no woodshaving..they do their own cleaning by grooming themselves or each other..u want soft fur pick a good diet and good supplements..


Added on July 11, 2010, 3:41 pmread this post too..i find it good for first time owners so they know what to expect
http://suggiesathome.com/2010/02/08/your-1st-joey/

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thanks for the info bro... well... the one who wants the sugar glider is my wife... i already told her to do research before rushing and buy the pets...
i guess she too excited and didnt read thoroughly all the guidelines and info... smile.gif now i think i need to get involved and make sure the sugar glider have a better or at least appropriate home to live... dats why i decided to join this community...

btw... if honey in the bottle dat we buy from the supermarket is considered processed honey is it?
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thanks for the info bro... well... the one who wants the sugar glider is my wife... i already told her to do research before rushing and buy the pets...
i guess she too excited and didnt read thoroughly all the guidelines and info... smile.gif now i think i need to get involved and make sure the sugar glider have a better or at least appropriate home to live... dats why i decided to join this community...

btw... if honey in the bottle dat we buy from the supermarket is considered processed honey is it?
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alright..do your best..just ask if u have any doubts..
some honey sold is raw honey so have to read the labels..those not stated raw honey means it's processed honey
if u want those more expansive honey like sweet meadow's brand manuka honey or rewarewa honey..a few ppl are using those also..tesco and carrefour i saw selling..but the normal honey is fine as long as it's not wild or raw honey
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Jul 11 2010, 03:36 PM)
1)cage the white one we call 5 ft cage and the black one we call 4ft cage..can be easily found if u seen it b4..accesories most are DIY toys u can see from this link
http://www.suzsugargliders.com/nosewaccessories.htm
hi guys... i already check the link yueyi gave... im interested to try some of the DIY toys...
however... can u advice me where to get these things? icon_question.gif

Swivel Clasp Hooks - I think can get from locksmith...
Landware Cloth and Plastic Chains - can get from local hardware shops rite...
Fleece fabric - this one i dunno where to get... sad.gif


Added on July 12, 2010, 3:29 amhi bro... i did some research on sugar glider diets... from what i learn they need diet something like HPW diets and other stuff... for single SG, it is advised to give:-

* 1.5 TEAspoons of HPW per glider
* 1 TABLEspoon of mixed fruits
* 1 TABLEspoon of mixed veggies
* Mealies for treats
* Gliderade once or twice a week

my questions are...
1) are the mixed fruits and mixed veggies the normal fruit and veggies we find... for example diced apples, etc. or is it the dried mix fruits?

2) for mealies/treats... i know we can use yogurt drops, mealworms, etc... can we use dried fruits as treats?

3) I saw other things such as gliderade, glider-cal, glider booster, pure acacia gums... is it necessary to give the SG all this stuff?
i read gliderade can be given 1-2 times/week... but how bout other stuff? can we give it all together at one time? or need to separate?

4) is there any other stuff i missing out?

i know dat the SG diet is very important... so i dont want to mess it... smile.gif

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hi...you just like me... except i kena with my daughters..

anyway..the fleece you can get from places like home's harmony...anywhere they sell bedding they normally sell these rolled up fleece blankets...20-30 rm je...no need to buy the original wool fleece..polyester ones pun ok..how to check fleece is they dont have weave or individual threads woven together...jadi tak la kuku glider sangkut..

for starters i suggest beli je sugie's stuff yg ready made... while waiting you can use old t-shirt pocket?or lumberjack shirts yg dah lama ke...my gliders if have a choice between pouch and my pockets the boy will always go into the pocket..kain lap keta yg kuning tu pun boleh gak for emergency but i think if you go online order the stuff it'll get to you within 3 days?

if you stick to hpw then follow just that... jangan mix and match because think of it as their staple food...asyik intro benda baru nanti upset balance.. remember these are still babies... play it safe

the fruits and veges are always better fresh

the supplements i think better for you to wait until you can handle the basic diet first with HPW, fruits and veges dulu. yg lain tu sprinkle sikit sikit atas the fruits and veges jeer you better focus more on the kinds of fruits and veges yg you give because you need to get the calcium phosphorus ratio right it's 2:1 for calcium to phos so get the list of what you must avoid and start from there... then you dah terrer can adjust from there la..
like mine suka coconut strips esp time fasting month they sell fresh cococnut water.. my gliders love the isi..so when i give them a lil bit..their next hpw will have a sprinkle of calcium..coz i letak on the fruit they wont eat..

anyway you'll do fne... smile.gif

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thanks glidermama for the info...

well i still have questions regarding the diets... smile.gif
ive read the calcium phosphorous ratios pdf file... and im quite blur with the info... sad.gif

my questions...
1) normally i feed momo (our suggies name) apples... which have the ratios of 0.5 or calcium:phosphorous 6:12...
does this mean i need to add glider-cal to top up its calcium intake to make it 2:1?
or should i combine it with parsley which have 83:35 or 2.38 ratios...
correct me if my calculation is wrong...
apples - 6:12
parsley - 83:35
total - 89:47 with ratios 1.89...

for oxalates level... we should keep it low rite?

2) now my wife seems to depressed coz she feel dat momo dont like her... whenever she went near the cage to put food or clean the tray, momo will always bark... i told her dat maybe momo stress coming to new home... is there any other reason for this behavior? today is only the 2nd day... smile.gif

3) can SG have bonding to more than one owner? coz im thinking of trying to bond with momo first and show to my wife dat momo is not dat aggressive... and then let her bond with momo... is this possible?

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thanks glidermama for the info...

well i still have questions regarding the diets... smile.gif
ive read the calcium phosphorous ratios pdf file... and im quite blur with the info... sad.gif

my questions...
1) normally i feed momo (our suggies name) apples... which have the ratios of 0.5 or calcium:phosphorous 6:12...
does this mean i need to add glider-cal to top up its calcium intake to make it 2:1?
or should i combine it with parsley which have 83:35 or 2.38 ratios...
correct me if my calculation is wrong...
apples - 6:12
parsley - 83:35
total - 89:47 with ratios 1.89...

for oxalates level... we should keep it low rite?

2) now my wife seems to depressed coz she feel dat momo dont like her... whenever she went near the cage to put food or clean the tray, momo will always bark... i told her dat maybe momo stress coming to new home... is there any other reason for this behavior? today is only the 2nd day... smile.gif

3) can SG have bonding to more than one owner? coz im thinking of trying to bond with momo first and show to my wife dat momo is not dat aggressive... and then let her bond with momo... is this possible?
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Bark is the sound of loneliness or cry for attention. Which means she should take him out and play with him. The sound of stress/anger is crabbing. maybe you're confused with which is which.

Usually bonded gliders do well with other humans as well. Since they now feel that humans are not exactly as dangerous as they maybe initially think. The way you wanna bond and show your wife hes not aggressive, its the same with the glider. You can show him your wife are not aggressive as well. But if you ask me, all wives are aggressive. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 12 2010, 11:56 AM)
Bark is the sound of loneliness or cry for attention. Which means she should take him out and play with him. The sound of stress/anger is crabbing. maybe you're confused with which is which.

Usually bonded gliders do well with other humans as well. Since they now feel that humans are not exactly as dangerous as they maybe initially think. The way you wanna bond and show your wife hes not aggressive, its the same with the glider. You can show him your wife are not aggressive as well. But if you ask me, all wives are aggressive. laugh.gif
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hahaha... i think i do confuse the sounds...
when i think about it... i think momo is not too familiar with humans... seeing how the seller handle him when he transfer momo from one cage to other cage... momo tried to run away and the seller seems afraid to hold momo... maybe before this momo is neglected coz the seller did give us "false" info bout the gliders... sad.gif
i guess i have lots of things to do to get bonded with momo... smile.gif
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This is barking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZeyhCMXO0

While this is crabbing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLiHU9F99PY
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 12 2010, 12:14 PM)
hahaha... i think i do confuse the sounds...
when i think about it... i think momo is not too familiar with humans... seeing how the seller handle him when he transfer momo from one cage to other cage... momo tried to run away and the seller seems afraid to hold momo... maybe before this momo is neglected coz the seller did give us "false" info bout the gliders... sad.gif
i guess i have lots of things to do to get bonded with momo... smile.gif
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it's quite common for gliders to be afraid of humans if they r not introduced to human at the young age...
a good breeder will ensure that the joey is already used to human touch and won't be afraid of human...

but u can change that, just take ur time to do the bonding and interacting with ur Momo, time, love and paitence will give you the best reward u'll ever ask for....

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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 12 2010, 11:49 AM)
thanks glidermama for the info...

well i still have questions regarding the diets... smile.gif
ive read the calcium phosphorous ratios pdf file... and im quite blur with the info... sad.gif

my questions...
1) normally i feed momo (our suggies name) apples... which have the ratios of 0.5 or calcium:phosphorous 6:12...
does this mean i need to add glider-cal to top up its calcium intake to make it 2:1?
or should i combine it with parsley which have 83:35 or 2.38 ratios...
correct me if my calculation is wrong...
apples - 6:12
parsley - 83:35
total - 89:47 with ratios 1.89...

for oxalates level... we should keep it low rite?

2) now my wife seems to depressed coz she feel dat momo dont like her... whenever she went near the cage to put food or clean the tray, momo will always bark... i told her dat maybe momo stress coming to new home... is there any other reason for this behavior? today is only the 2nd day... smile.gif

3) can SG have bonding to more than one owner? coz im thinking of trying to bond with momo first and show to my wife dat momo is not dat aggressive... and then let her bond with momo... is this possible?
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1) Normally people will balance back the total ratio to 2:1 by combining different kind of fruits and vegetables.. You can use calcium powder of course, but be cautious with the portion u add in, because those calcium powder is really high concentrated.. It will lead to overdose calcium if u giving too much..

2) Erm..this is only the 2nd day.. Momo is trying to adapt to the new environment and new smell and sound and human also.. Give him sometime~ smile.gif Crabbing is extremely normal for stressful and insecure glider.. This is their way of expressing their fear and emotion.. Jus like human baby, they cry when they are frighten~ But it doesnt mean we don cry when we grew up, we will still cry when we encounter certain situation.. (which means even bonded or tamed glider will still crab once awhile when they got frightened suddenly) ..

3) Erm..It will be easier if you let your glider concentrate on single person first... Otherwise too many ppl involve will make him confuse with all the smells...
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true...eric is right i only use the calcium powder where coconut or other high phos fruits sebab these are very high phos content otherwise just balance it out...

another way is you bond physically with momo first by handling him but as much as possible include your wife's smell by using her worn shirts.that's what i did with mine...i handle them by taking them to work in ther pouch everyday in the first few weeks and carrying them around my pockets after that bila dah biasa with me... but their cages are covered with hubby's shirts so they are fine with him too... in fact i jealous gak... they'll alway greet him by calling him whenever they see him or hear him coimng...and he doesnt even have to handle them!but i suppose they know him because he washes their cages etc too
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hehe eric.. my furla still crabs when i want to cut her nails... and then give me the 'look' while licking her nails that have been cut..soo taiko

anyway... animals can also smell fear.. so if your wife takut takut with him...momo lagi saspen to have her handle him... if you are confident and calm he will sense that and calm down too..
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u guys didnt use the nail-o-matic in the wheel to trim their nails?
questions on diets again... do u guys have any recommended combination of fruits + vegies to balance out calcium and phosphorous?
i tried to match out the fruits + vegies from the list in the pdf file... but its quite hard for me... sad.gif
please recommend wat r the usual combination u guys use... hopefully the one easy to find in the market... smile.gif


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any one interested to show how to keep your sg on tv? do let me know ya!!
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are u werking with broadcast company?

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.....::::: ON GREEN :::::..... user posted image
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just to show... smile.gif
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fuuuhhh... so cute...


Added on July 12, 2010, 5:43 pmfuuuhhh... so cute... wub.gif wub.gif

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the swivel hooks u can replace with book rings can get from most bookshops or staionary section in supermarket(tesco/carrefour/jusco)

fleece in tesco is the cheapest oni RM11 for kids fleece blanket oni 2 designs dark blue with stars and pink with heart shape...the plain ones are for adult blankets bit more expansive..can find in jusco/carrefour/the store/ikea/homes and harmony-normally it's about RM20

plastic chains can get from hardware store or MR DIY

have u gotten a wheel for your sugar glider?get the senior wheel joeys can also run on it without any problem..

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yes the normal fresh fruits and vegetables we find..some even give organic fruits and vegy to their gliders which is good

drief fruits as in what human eat for snacks..no it not good for them it contains colourings/preservertives might be harmful..there are dried fruit treats for pets which i think it's fine but my gliders seemed not to like it..maybe coz no juice?? i dont know just guessing...just watch what to get some are just plain sugar/colourings..so pandai pandai choose your products

those u mention are supplements-yea most are spinkle on the food..my advice is we should give an appopriate amount of suplements to them..coz keeping them as pets we already alter their diets so that they can be kept in captivity..we must do our best to provide nutritional food for them to stay healthy in their tip top condition...tat's why i reccomend to give supplements as well


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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 12 2010, 12:14 PM)
hahaha... i think i do confuse the sounds...
when i think about it... i think momo is not too familiar with humans... seeing how the seller handle him when he transfer momo from one cage to other cage... momo tried to run away and the seller seems afraid to hold momo... maybe before this momo is neglected coz the seller did give us "false" info bout the gliders... sad.gif
i guess i have lots of things to do to get bonded with momo... smile.gif
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emino gave good example from youtube

the character of the glider depends on it's own personality..2 gliders from the same parents same batch 1 might be frenly the other might be crabby..like my newest boy Tyler from crazymouse_yyh he was very crabby little guy..and everytime i take him out his attempt was to run away from me..kakaka..but then after handling few days he got better and better day by day..took around 1 week for him to get use to me.now he can climb on my shoulder and ask for treats play with my hair etc..different gliders differnt rate..like my old ones around few months maybe coz i was new with gliders last time..now i'm more experience handling joeys..first 2 days to a new home..i always advice to cover with a tshirt and just leave it alone..oni provide food and take softly let him get use to your voice..by 3rd day u can start handling your joey..of coz dont over stress it either..


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i love this one..so cute

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thankz yueyi5730 and tednet..
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@Brem : Awwwhhh biggrin.gif they're so cute! (: Great shot biggrin.gif

Mmm.. Are they chewing on the tree? O: Isit safe?
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how long does it normally take for your gliders to bond to each other?
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jolenelarhhs: yup.. just play play... hehehe...
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QUOTE(geo @ Jul 13 2010, 11:54 AM)
how long does it normally take for your gliders to bond to each other?
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with proper introduction..if they dont fight with each other it takes less than a week after putting them together...u could see they groom and sleep together..one follow the other when go adventuring..

having proper introduction is very important..stay in differnt cages, swap pouches and let them notice each other in a neutral territory..some gliders just alright the first time they meet some might take longer from days to a week or 2...thats why we need to closely monitor newly introduced gliders..

normally the older gliders wouldn't accept the new comer so easily coz it's his/her territory..so they would show dominancy

for my case begining my new joey dont want to be with the other 2 males but the other 2 dont mind him being with them...he rather sleep in a differnt pouch and stay far away from them..u can see Cody attempt to get to know him but he was stilll afraid... but after like 2 days i see them all snuggling together..hahaha..you could say his personality was timid being away from his parents but as soon as he understood that the other meant no harm then he slowly accepts them as colony buddies.


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Hello guys , my joey have been out of pouch for more than one month! its staying in thier parents cage (hammock) safely~ and it never come out aND climb ! what should i do ?!
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nothing
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how nice to see them in the greens
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eric if i send u the pic off my joeys can u extimate the age of them..
and i want to ask u when i feed them apple they didnt like n eat it why..

and just asking how to play with them...the proper way la..
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QUOTE(ForGe @ Jul 13 2010, 11:31 PM)
eric if i send u the pic off my joeys can u extimate the age of them..
and i want to ask u when i feed them apple they didnt like n eat it why..

and just asking how to play with them...the proper way la..
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just compare ur glider to the glider growth chart on the 1st page n u can see the difference if any
those pics are taken daily
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 14 2010, 09:10 AM)
just compare ur glider to the glider growth chart on the 1st page n u can see the difference if any
those pics are taken daily
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QUOTE(mattemily_85 @ Jul 14 2010, 12:14 PM)
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hahaha, that's ur lucas boy.
u know that right?
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ya..i try but its show that mine just about around 29-32 days only but it been 2weeks adopt him if like that i buy from the breeder he was just a week old..?how can be..

comfuse....x_x
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updates on our suggies momo... smile.gif
today is the 4th day his been with us... since yesterday, momo didnt crabbing at my wife already... she also can get close to momo without momo trying to bite her... this is great improvement for us... biggrin.gif
i think she dont need my help to get bonding to momo now... smile.gif
yesterday also we went to Pet Shack to get a proper cage and items for momo... able to get the 4ft cage with all other accessories (wodent wheel senior, HPW starter kit, treats, etc)... its all come in a package and i sure botak yesterday... sad.gif
now momo have a new home and he seems happy with it... biggrin.gif
this morning i heard momo barking for the first time... which is sweet... tongue.gif

the cage given by the seller...
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our new cage/home for momo... biggrin.gif
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momo closed up... tongue.gif
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i still have questions... momo seems dont like the HPW diet we gave him... he run away when it smell it... any idea how to make momo like it? or is this normal?

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 14 2010, 12:23 PM)
hahaha, that's ur lucas boy.
u know that right?
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Yeah haha....


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ya..i try but its show that mine just about around 29-32 days only but it been 2weeks adopt him if like that i buy from the breeder he was just a week old..?how can be..

comfuse....x_x
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does you buy from our listed breeder?

some outsider just know bout $$ only and ZERO knowledge.

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QUOTE(ForGe @ Jul 14 2010, 01:43 PM)
ya..i try but its show that mine just about around 29-32 days only but it been 2weeks adopt him if like that i buy from the breeder he was just a week old..?how can be..

comfuse....x_x
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underaged gliders tend to be smaller in size n dun grow well...
but i do have a couple which is miniature in size
lol!!
super cute, never grow up wan...
checked with doc de, says normal also...
but it'd from my own breeding so i know it's not underaged...
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 14 2010, 01:49 PM)
updates on our suggies momo... smile.gif
today is the 4th day his been with us... since yesterday, momo didnt crabbing at my wife already... she also can get close to momo without momo trying to bite her... this is great improvement for us... biggrin.gif
i think she dont need my help to get bonding to momo now... smile.gif
yesterday also we went to Pet Shack to get a proper cage and items for momo... able to get the 4ft cage with all other accessories (wodent wheel senior, HPW starter kit, treats, etc)... its all come in a package and i sure botak yesterday... sad.gif
now momo have a new home and he seems happy with it... biggrin.gif
this morning i heard momo barking for the first time... which is sweet... tongue.gif

the cage given by the seller...
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our new cage/home for momo... biggrin.gif
user posted image

momo closed up... tongue.gif
user posted image

i still have questions... momo seems dont like the HPW diet we gave him... he run away when it smell it... any idea how to make momo like it? or is this normal?
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You can introducing HPW to them by layering the HPW on top of the fruits you'll give to them. Works for me last time.
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froge.. hows ur joeys now? have they improved from the last time we met?
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 14 2010, 02:02 PM)
underaged gliders tend to be smaller in size n dun grow well...
but i do have a couple which is miniature in size
lol!!
super cute, never grow up wan...
checked with doc de, says normal also...
but it'd from my own breeding so i know it's not underaged...
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LoL i got Max from jitshiong 1 month ago and it's really mini lolz...really alot of difference comparing to my another glider(Lia) which is the normal type..huhuh

Anyway, jitshiong i manage to introduce them in neutral teritory a week after they fought and ball-up with each other which is a couple of weeks ago...the process of introducing them again is quite smooth and i have prepared everything that is necessary just in case they ball-up again. was so nervous when they sniff at each other thinking they will fight but it end up they 2 running and exploring together. and Max din try to piggy ride Lia FIY jitshiong, telling u just in case ur still worrying bout it. And also Lia din try to bully Max or dominating him over everything, they even share food together. There was one time when i fed them treats, Max refuse to take his treat from me, instead he went near Lia's mouth and lick the remaining in her mouth LOL...

erm..the other day i was browsing and searching on whether it is possible to potty train glider and i came across this video from vets which i think mayb useful or it is not? it is true ar glider can be potty train? any of u guys actually did try it before?

Here is the video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqYunoirWRA

P/S: no time to upload their photos but i will tonight icon_rolleyes.gif

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i came across tis site and thought it'd be cool to have RJ and furla's pic on a keychain..tapi it's american..do we have somethg like this here?plus the guy donates to animals charity..so nice...
http://animalcharms.net/

congrats faidzal...that's fabulous progress...your wife a lucky gal!


Added on July 14, 2010, 5:55 pmps: bunyi memang comel kan..so cair when we hear..


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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 14 2010, 02:02 PM)
underaged gliders tend to be smaller in size n dun grow well...
but i do have a couple which is miniature in size
lol!!
super cute, never grow up wan...
checked with doc de, says normal also...
but it'd from my own breeding so i know it's not underaged...
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Yeah yeah! Like my second baby - Criscille!! (: Heee! She's with me for quite some time d but just grow a little more and stayed that size tongue.gif Lol! Easy for me to differentiate between both my babies biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(glidermama @ Jul 14 2010, 05:54 PM)
i came across tis site and thought it'd be cool to have RJ and furla's pic on a keychain..tapi it's american..do we have somethg like this here?plus the guy donates to animals charity..so nice...
http://animalcharms.net/

congrats faidzal...that's fabulous progress...your wife a lucky gal!


Added on July 14, 2010, 5:55 pmps: bunyi memang comel kan..so cair when we hear..
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i got mugs with my pet photos but keychain i not sure they got make or not..


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wow great improvement..lucky u made the right decition to change

well i'm feeding GliderSlurp..i tried hpw but they dun really like it also..tat's why i change to slurp..few of my frens face the same problem too

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QUOTE(glidermama @ Jul 14 2010, 05:54 PM)
i came across tis site and thought it'd be cool to have RJ and furla's pic on a keychain..tapi it's american..do we have somethg like this here?plus the guy donates to animals charity..so nice...
http://animalcharms.net/

congrats faidzal...that's fabulous progress...your wife a lucky gal!


Added on July 14, 2010, 5:55 pmps: bunyi memang comel kan..so cair when we hear..
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yeah... the sound mmg comel... im ready to go to work already... then go back to see momo... smile.gif
last time in one utama they have this shop can dot-print your picture on the keychain... but they closed already...
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geo::ya lot of improvement lately..thanks for your supply of the milk..
hehe..
rite now i try to give then apple an some other fruit but the problem is they seems not into all the fruit that i put inside the bowl...

i wonder y..they all so manje and allways barking...

i afird that they cant eat on their own but chopper like 2 month old yet y he dont like the fruit that i give him...only chichi go la lick around....

any idea how to make them like the fruit..???


faidzal1982:: congrtz...but y buy so large cage so fast..???
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Hi, im having some problem with my Max...he seems dun like it at all...i dip some on my finger and let him smell, when he is near sniffing my finger wondering wad isit so i jz knock some on its nose and it lick it and shake his head abit and den shiver a bit swt... doh.gif

Im wondering whr can i get gliderSlurp? asked petShack but they dun sell wor... @@ mind telling me biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(piggyzai @ Jul 14 2010, 11:16 PM)
Hi, im having some problem with my Max...he seems dun like it at all...i dip some on my finger and let him smell, when he is near sniffing my finger wondering wad isit so i jz knock some on its nose and it lick it and shake his head abit and den shiver a bit swt... doh.gif

Im wondering whr can i get gliderSlurp? asked petShack but they dun sell wor... @@ mind telling me  biggrin.gif
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make sure that the slurp does not get into his nose. it can irritate just like water get into ur nose. can also cause stress to ur glider.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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make sure that the slurp does not get into his nose. it can irritate just like water get into ur nose. can also cause stress to ur glider.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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thanks yueyi and faidzal..tu la..maybe if the price is ok i just get from them aje la..USD not so high now anyway right?if the shipping is high maybe we can pakat pakat kaotim order together then should be cheaper also kan? instead of the plain ones like the army..ini baru betul dog tags...heheheheh

piggy,glider are like kids also....some very fussy others semua tibai...just because hpw works wonders with most people doesnt mean yours is going to fall instantly in love with it...what i did was hold off giving fruits and vege until he's hungry,keep offering hpw on my finger,bila he's hungry licin je he'll eat the whole thg thumbup.gif .once he's used to it then just have a regular schedule of when you give hpw and when you give fruits etc..they love fruits because it's sweet and fresh...macam kids laa if they like somethg they'll eat all of that first before anythg else tapi takkan nak makan only that,right?must balance also...you have to be the judge la..tough love.. tongue.gif

if it doesnt work anyway then i suppose you have to change it to somethg else like gliderslurp etc...what to do kan? hate to waste the hpw you already bought so maybe try first a few days before giving up? ps no need to push too hard either..if asyik kena rub in their face lagi he'll get irritated.. biggrin.gif good luck


Added on July 15, 2010, 8:16 amforge,i dunno if the sifus here would disagree but i tink apples so much not good laa..better papaya watermelon etc high cal content and the water is good also since now so hot and dry

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glidermama:: ok i try to give them rock melon can huh..??
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Hi, im having some problem with my Max...he seems dun like it at all...i dip some on my finger and let him smell, when he is near sniffing my finger wondering wad isit so i jz knock some on its nose and it lick it and shake his head abit and den shiver a bit swt... doh.gif

Im wondering whr can i get gliderSlurp? asked petShack but they dun sell wor... @@ mind telling me  biggrin.gif
i get gliderslurp from crazymouse_yyh can find in the petstore low yat section...u can get from pet epicure also..she makes them fresh when ordered..most of the time cod to get it..
i see her once every 2 months to get my supply..i love the idea of assorted flavours so your glider wont get bored with just 1 flavour.


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glidermama:: ok i try to give them rock melon can huh..??
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a little bit of everything give the best nutrition...
dont oni give 1 type of fruit or vegy

normally i give 3-4 type of fruits and vegy at a time..like apple/carrots/peas/pear/watermelon/honeydew/sun melon/papaya/blueberry/orange/tangerine/sawi/broccoli-just mix and match la...

somtimes i put honey on the fruits/vegy for them to lick lick lick...but they very pandai lick all the honey in every piece oni start eationg..hahaha..hpw already got a lot of honey so i guess u guys must control giving honey as treats.
can try sprinkle acasia gum also can

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@ForGe: the cage provided by the seller is too small for our momo... dats y we decided to buy a larger cage... and alang2 buy new cage... i go for bigger one coz later can add more toys for momo and not really crowded...

@piggyzai & yueyi5730: my first night give hpw to momo, he dont like it... he keeps running away... then yesterday morning, my wife replace a new hpw in his food bowl... he didnt touch it either... then last nite, i give some butterhead lettuce to momo and then give some apple... then i dip the apple into hpw and give to momo... he lick all the hpw and leave the apple smile.gif ... lucky he likes hpw already... if not sure waste to throw away the hpw... after all the hpw finish... after midnight momo eat all the apples and vegies left in the bowl... biggrin.gif
maybe u can try this method also piggyzai...

i notice momo always active after midnight and when the lamp is off... if i turned on the light... he will be less active... this is normal rite? since suggies is the nocturnal type...
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faidzal, u r right, is normal for them to be more active when all lights are off. Some glider are shy until they will stay inside the pouch even only a small dim light is on..

Gliders are picky eater, it takes time to introduce them new food. Don expect them to jus simply chunk in everything that u serve. If the diet is really good for them, i don see any wrong to spend a little bit more time and effort to let them accept it. smile.gif

I took 2months to introduce one of my glider yogurt drops~
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wah faizal what u do to ur momo evrydy learn someting new...congrtz...mine still the same lazy as allways..i dont seems to know what their problm..hpw ya they like it but fruit not..later when i go back sure to try ur mathod...thanks for sharing...good luck on momo..

yueyi: last time i try feed him sawi n also sprinkl some honey on it but he just lick the honey n left the sawi along try cuple of time but still the same i afrid that they will get sick and lack of nutirtion if keep licking the hpw n apple...but now only hpw the apple they dont want it anymore..
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@ForGe: the cage provided by the seller is too small for our momo... dats y we decided to buy a larger cage... and alang2 buy new cage... i go for bigger one coz later can add more toys for momo and not really crowded...

@piggyzai & yueyi5730: my first night give hpw to momo, he dont like it... he keeps running away... then yesterday morning, my wife replace a new hpw in his food bowl... he didnt touch it either... then last nite, i give some butterhead lettuce to momo and then give some apple... then i dip the apple into hpw and give to momo... he lick all the hpw and leave the apple smile.gif ... lucky he likes hpw already... if not sure waste to throw away the hpw... after all the hpw finish... after midnight momo eat all the apples and vegies left in the bowl... biggrin.gif
maybe u can try this method also piggyzai...

i notice momo always active after midnight and when the lamp is off... if i turned on the light... he will be less active... this is normal rite? since suggies is the nocturnal type...
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haha...i did dat too but my little one still shake his head when he lick the hpw dat i dip wif the diced coconut, if he hold the diced coconut he will turn it around and lick the part whr there is no hpw on it =.="

about the light thingy, my Lia hate the light A LOT! lolz..whenever i turn off the light she come out, when light is on she climb bek inside the pouch and stick her head out a bit =.= so i sometimes on the table-light when me n my gf ar playing wif them laugh.gif

QUOTE(eric138 @ Jul 15 2010, 01:03 PM)
faidzal, u r right, is normal for them to be more active when all lights are off. Some glider are shy until they will stay inside the pouch even only a small dim light is on..

Gliders are picky eater, it takes time to introduce them new food. Don expect them to jus simply chunk in everything that u serve. If the diet is really good for them, i don see any wrong to spend a little bit more time and effort to let them accept it. smile.gif

I took 2months to introduce one of my glider yogurt drops~
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Hi eric...my Lia and Max dun like yogurt drops oso swt...wad did u do to mk them love it? put together wif something they like? @@

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our momo didnt eat his happy glider fruity flavour also... its a treat just like yogurt drops rite? this one i still wonder how to introduce it to him... smile.gif
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can any one list down a diet for a joeys that are about 1 n 2 month of age...in malay so that i can ask the shopkeeper..hehe...
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i also new at this learn on the spot coz want to save RJ..lucky the sifus here helped..just sharing what i learnt..forge..have you tried looking at the list of fruits gliders can eat or not? if you google sure ada punya.. what the sifus here say is right better to mix and match the fruits and veges how you do that is up to you..as long as you keep in mind the cal:phos ratio.

piggyzai..coconut chunk as in the actual pieces of coconut or the nata de coco thingy?they are very high phos content we have to careful coz too much phos can be bad for their bones.. hind leg paralysis etc..

mine are fussy if i campur 3-4 types of fruits.. they'll eat only what they like and leave the rest.so i feed them one type at a time and the next feed somethgelse.
some of these in malay are: tembikai susu, jambu air, betik, jambu batu,tembikai biasa all good. oren not so much they can cirit as do many sour acidic fruits.. careful with high phos content like banana and coconut or durian grapes pun cant give so much the high oxalates prevent cal absorption....very sparingly only...as treats not as staple diet.

basically give them a mixed variety however you can just be careful of the overal nutrition impact.
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btw... u can find the list of the food with the cal:phos ratio in the first page... its a link to pdf file of sweet sugar glider... smile.gif

i also still learn to mix and match... its quite hard for us noobies...
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i also new at this learn on the spot coz want to save RJ..lucky the sifus here helped..just sharing what i learnt..forge..have you tried looking at the list of fruits gliders can eat or not? if you google sure ada punya.. what the sifus here say is right better to mix and match the fruits and veges how you do that is up to you..as long as you keep in mind the cal:phos ratio.

piggyzai..coconut chunk as in the actual pieces of coconut or the nata de coco thingy?they are very high phos content we have to careful coz too much phos can be bad for their bones.. hind leg paralysis etc..

mine are fussy if i campur 3-4 types of fruits.. they'll eat only what they like and leave the rest.so i feed them one type at a time and the next feed somethgelse.
some of these in malay are: tembikai susu, jambu air, betik, jambu batu,tembikai biasa all good. oren not so much they can cirit as do many sour acidic fruits.. careful with high phos content like banana and coconut or durian grapes pun cant give so much the high oxalates prevent cal absorption....very sparingly only...as treats not as staple diet.

basically give them a mixed variety however you can just be careful of the overal nutrition impact.
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not the normal coconut...its glider treats and oni feed them once nia since i bought it..heh i noe bout the disease dun worry xD thumbup.gif

here are some useful video to share...hope it does sweat.gif as im still newbie trying to learn something
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK1pqHkUckQ

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Very important. When feeding orange and apples, you have to leave the skin on coz if you peel it, the phosphorus level would be higher than the calcium level.

Watermelon do not overdo. It will make the poo very watery. Orange once a week or twice a week, a small cube per glider. Try feed berries... my gliders love blueberries and cherries, very high in antioxidant.

Oh, out of curiousity, I tried giving my gliders, all 30 of them, an Acacia gum dinner, nothing else coz this is to see what their poop was like if they only eat acacia gum. Strangely, the poop was really sticky and goo-like, it had a very very mild smell, almost no smell. But messy.... so can imagine what their poop is like in the wild, since they mostly eat tree gum and sap.
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wah faizal what u do to ur momo evrydy learn someting new...congrtz...mine still the same lazy as allways..i dont seems to know what their problm..hpw ya they like it but fruit not..later when i go back sure to try ur mathod...thanks for sharing...good luck on momo..

yueyi: last time i try feed him sawi n also sprinkl some honey on it but he just lick the honey n left the sawi along try cuple of time but still the same i afrid that they will get sick and lack of nutirtion if keep licking the hpw n apple...but now only hpw the apple they dont want it anymore..
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since it's taking hpw u can try pouring the hpw on the fruits and vegy...sawi i normally hang ten they will play as well as eat it..
u oni give apple?try give more variety..can try mango..mine loves mango and papaya
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i try the fruit all the week they dont eat it aswell i even bring it to the vet just in case they have some eating prob but the vet say that they all ok fine n heathy but it worry me that they dont eat anything just licking the hpw..i even mix the fruit with hpw but they just lick the hpw n left it alone...

the list fruit that i give them..mango,pear,apple,sawi,brokoly,salary,rock melon(just trythat 1 just now but still dont like it eather)...


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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Jul 15 2010, 11:05 AM)
i get gliderslurp from crazymouse_yyh can find in the petstore low yat section...u can get from pet epicure also..she makes them fresh when ordered..most of the time cod to get it..
i see her once every 2 months to get my supply..i love the idea of assorted flavours so your glider wont get bored with just 1 flavour.

can try sprinkle acasia gum also can
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I feed GliderSlurp to my babies and always COD with Hun too! (: Hehe.
I don't buy them every 2 months though, I always buy 2 container each time and only buy again when I'm running out of em biggrin.gif
I also like the idea of having a variety of flavours (: I always buy 2 diff flavours at once and rotate them or serve 2 cubes, 1 flavour each (: Hehe. My glider seems to love them biggrin.gifD

My gliders never seem to like Acacia gum O: Idk why. No matter what I sprinkle on, they never seem to like it. O:

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i wonder why my gliders sometime ok with me, no crabbing sound.
but sometime they crabbed so much with shaking body.

is it i'm not bonded enough? i hand-feed them every night and put my cloth inside or surrounded the cage.


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our momo last nite didnt eat his apples... just lick the hpw out of it... but he eats the butterhead vegies... i think he being picky again... going to try papaya later... smile.gif

@royaltramp: if u upload the pic with imageshack... on the right hand side there is a link for thumbnail pic to be put in forum... maybe u can try dat... so the pic u upload is the ori size but in forum it appears as thumbnail...

@yueyi5730: how did u hang the sawi... can share some pic? smile.gif
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@sweet_blanca: is it? but kallisto is so cute + it was looking at the fb website...kawaiiii wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Jul 15 2010, 11:44 PM)
I feed GliderSlurp to my babies and always COD with Hun too! (: Hehe.
I don't buy them every 2 months though, I always buy 2 container each time and only buy again when I'm running out of em biggrin.gif
I also like the idea of having a variety of flavours (: I always buy 2 diff flavours at once and rotate them or serve 2 cubes, 1 flavour each (: Hehe. My glider seems to love them biggrin.gifD

My gliders never seem to like Acacia gum O: Idk why. No matter what I sprinkle on, they never seem to like it. O:
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mine take acasia gum when i make into paste..but they dun take that much though

the average time i meet hun is once every 2 months..coz i buy like 3 tubs then just finich in time b4 the reccomended expiry date..meanwhile i get for my course mate also..so have to cod to get more.


QUOTE(exsaga @ Jul 16 2010, 01:37 AM)
i wonder why my gliders sometime ok with me, no crabbing sound.
but sometime they crabbed so much with shaking body.

is it i'm not bonded enough? i hand-feed them every night and put my cloth inside or surrounded the cage.
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u put in bonding pouch?sometines they are not use to movement when u put them in bonding pouch..they will get use to it

QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 16 2010, 10:40 AM)
our momo last nite didnt eat his apples... just lick the hpw out of it... but he eats the butterhead vegies... i think he being picky again... going to try papaya later... smile.gif

@yueyi5730: how did u hang the sawi... can share some pic? smile.gif
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last time when i use hpw..i pour on the fruits and vegy also..but i feel the fruits and vegy turn soggy then they didnt touch it at all...X.X
then i change to slurp and eating since then..i gave away hpw to friends who uses hpw


Added on July 16, 2010, 12:54 pmu know the plastic chain from hardware store...i take a whole tangkai leaf then i hang upside down on the chain..i use clothes pegs to clip the vegy on it...like hang clothes on ampaian like tat

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@yueyi5730: thanks for tips of hanging vegies... smile.gif

btw... i read somewhere dat we need to take suggies for regular checkup at vet once in every 6 months... how much the cost of it? can share some cost of the vet (treating for illness/disease)...
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Jul 16 2010, 12:52 PM)
mine take acasia gum when i make into paste..but they dun take that much though

the average time i meet hun is once every 2 months..coz i buy like 3 tubs then just finich in time b4 the reccomended expiry date..meanwhile i get for my course mate also..so have to cod to get more.


u know the plastic chain from hardware store...i take a whole tangkai leaf then i hang upside down on the chain..i use clothes pegs to clip the vegy on it...like hang clothes on ampaian like tat
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Ohhh. They dislike it even when I give them as paste. I always mix into gum for them, tried putting on fruits/the apple wood and also feeding together with slurp but they just don't seem to like it. O:

Mmm.. I just hang my vege on the Critter-Ka-Bob O: Together with the apple wood thing (: Heh.
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 16 2010, 01:16 PM)
@yueyi5730: thanks for tips of hanging vegies... smile.gif

btw... i read somewhere dat we need to take suggies for regular checkup at vet once in every 6 months... how much the cost of it? can share some cost of the vet (treating for illness/disease)...
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Hello everyone...I'm have been following this thread from the beginning and ended up with 7 sugies in my home( I don't know how this happened)and coming soon - a twins (two visible movement in the mother's pouch). My questions are:-
1. Where can I purchase a wombaroo possom milk replacer?
They are out of stock or unavailable in some petshop....!
2. Why is the female not coming out of the pouch except the male,
and I have to feed her (by hand) just to make sure she's
getting enough nourishments for herself and her joeys. Am I
doing it wrongly?
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 17 2010, 02:50 AM)
Hello everyone...I'm have been following this thread from the beginning and ended up with 7 sugies in my home( I don't know how this happened)and coming soon - a twins (two visible movement in the mother's pouch). My questions are:-
1. Where can I purchase a wombaroo possom milk replacer?
    They are out of stock or unavailable in some petshop....! 
2. Why is the female not coming out of the pouch except the male,
    and I have to feed her (by hand) just to make sure she's
    getting enough nourishments for herself and her joeys. Am I 
    doing it wrongly?
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Erm.. Milk Replacer is currently out of stock and not available at the time being. You can keep track with petshack and see when they will bring in the new stock.

I don't really favor owner to handraise the joeys when the mother is able to nurse them herself. We only handraise or feed the baby when the joeys got rejected or when the mother is not able to nurse them.

In your case, if the mother still nursing the baby, jus make sure the mother got sufficient nutrient to support the nursing period, such as protein and calcium..
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 17 2010, 02:50 AM)
Hello everyone...I'm have been following this thread from the beginning and ended up with 7 sugies in my home( I don't know how this happened)and coming soon - a twins (two visible movement in the mother's pouch). My questions are:-
1. Where can I purchase a wombaroo possom milk replacer?
    They are out of stock or unavailable in some petshop....! 
2. Why is the female not coming out of the pouch except the male,
    and I have to feed her (by hand) just to make sure she's
    getting enough nourishments for herself and her joeys. Am I 
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it's ok, the mom wil come out to play n eat when she wants to....
u dun see her the whole night rite?
she surely comes out when u r sleeping...
when the joeys r oop, then u will see the mommy come out earlier to eat n play...
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allenna you dont have to feed her by hand the mother can eat by herself..maybe she manja manja wants u to handfeed her..hahaha..some joeys oop about 1-2 days different even if they are from the same batch..
for lactating mothers u are suppose to offer her more protein food
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Thanks you guys for the informations and Eric138 Sir, for your info, I'm not trying to handraise the joeys, I just want to keep it for an emergency case only....(just incase the mother rejects her joeys)
Ooo..yueyi5730, what type of protein food do you recommend me, other than superworms , HPW ( I use 2 High Protein Supplement + 1 Bee Pollen ), crickets, grasshoppers, silkworms pupae and mealworms ( live and canned food from Exoterra)..? Am i overfeeding them because I went to see Dr Jenny in the early June to have them all deworming, she got a shock and surprised because the male (Peanut) does not have a bald spot on his head eventhou his nearly 2 years of age and weigh 107 grams while Mia is 89 grams. For your information when i first bought them from the petshop he had a bald spot (not so handsome at that time) and the shop owner only fed them apples and mealworms only......
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Some male glider memang don hv bald spot although they hav reached maturity age, so this is nt a big issue.. 107g sounds ok for me as long as he is exercising and active as usual..

Be careful on the insects that you feed, is good to give variety but not too much in portion.. Feeding them as treats will do...

You said he had a bald spot last time when he still at petshop? Erm.. mayb the bald spot is caused by overgrooming due to malnutrition and improper diet?
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Yes sirry..bald spot on his head . Well lucky me, all my male gliders does not have bald spot on their head. Eeowh...they look not so handsome but really cute rclxm9.gif
Eric these are my gliders infos:-

Peanut (M), D.O.A. : 17/12/2009
Mia (F), D.O.A. : 17/12/2009
Apple (M), D.O.A. : 28/12/2009
Gizmo (M), D.O.A. : 28/12/2009
Bella (F), D.O.A. : 28/12/2009
Bell (F), D.O.A. : 30/04/2010
Kiwi (F), D.O.A. : 16/06/2010

Kiwi is the youngest and the tiniest cause, when I first bought her, she was 2 months old and was quietly eating a small slice of an apple. I couldn't resist looking at her....all alone in the cage because I remembered this one incident this joey about 2 months old, self-mutation it's tail until you can see it's bone, it was hideous and terrible. The shop keeper did ask me to buy it before(before it self-mutated), since he knows that I have some sugies at home. I feel pity and sorry for all the joeys (especially the under-age ones) and I have come across a petshop in Johore, who wants to become a breeder (about 10 small cages(1x1x1.5 with coconut shells each) but he didn't even give his gliders any food and water.....they were all dehydrated and straving(all 20 of them).... cry.gif
I can't keep rescuing them every time I feel pity or sorry for them. I'm not a breeder myself and I have three moveable 3 feet cages and a 4 feet cage at home already. My mom already nagging me that our house is turning into a small zoo cause I keep them all in the house.

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dear all master,
noob question here, how much if i wanted to buy bonding-pouch?
my quote me RM50?
any seller here in LYN?

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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 17 2010, 05:48 PM)
Thanks you guys for the informations and Eric138 Sir, for your info, I'm not trying to handraise the joeys, I just want to keep it for an emergency case only....(just incase the mother rejects her joeys)
Ooo..yueyi5730, what type of protein food do you recommend me, other than superworms ,  HPW ( I use 2 High Protein Supplement + 1 Bee Pollen ), crickets, grasshoppers, silkworms pupae and mealworms ( live and canned food from Exoterra)..? Am i overfeeding them because I went to see Dr Jenny in the early June to have them all deworming, she got a shock and surprised because the male (Peanut)  does not have a bald spot on his head eventhou his nearly 2 years of age and weigh 107 grams while Mia is 89 grams. For your information when i first bought them from the petshop he had a bald spot (not so handsome at that time) and the shop owner only fed them apples and  mealworms only......
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normally for lactating mothers/pregnant mother they double up the high protein wambaroo powder..this is an example ratio might not be the real one, lets say in the hpw diet u use one scoop of wambaroo protein powder and 1 scoop of bee pollen.. for lactating and pregnant monthers u should use 2 scoop of the powder and 1 scoop of bee pollen to make the hpw liquid.. t
yea variety of insects is good..u can feed dubias also if u want to..my gliders dun eat the can insects too smelly they dont want..your gliders weight are great..from the weight stated they seem to be in a good size..keep it up


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dear all master,
noob question here, how much if i wanted to buy bonding-pouch?
my quote me RM50?
any seller here in LYN?
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look here..if u are lucky u can get at RM20-Rm30
http://forum.lowyat.net/PetStore

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hey guys my joey started to can eat and chew on food de , should i seperate from its parents , i scare it will not have enough vitamin / protein to grow normally!
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Thanks yueyi5730 for your advice, not to mention Eric and others, I certainly will take good care of all my sugies after doing a lot of research, reading and following this sugie's thread, I definitely....definitely will....! nod.gif
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will sg get shocked?? 1st time i see this but after playin wit the feathery thingy wit rufus, suddenly he started to run away n be alert of everything moving around..nw he is barkin non stop... y??
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Thanks yueyi5730 for your advice, not to mention Eric and others, I certainly will take good care of all my sugies after doing a lot of research, reading and following this sugie's thread, I definitely....definitely  will....!  nod.gif
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will sg get shocked?? 1st time i see this but after playin wit the feathery thingy wit rufus, suddenly he started to run away n be alert of everything moving around..nw he is barkin non stop... y??
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sugar glider are very alert animals..your glider sensed 'danger' when it got startled then it runs for cover..then he bark to other sugar glider mates..this happen to my glider and the rest also took cover...just have to asure him tat everything is fine and they will come out to play again
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QUOTE(Lawrence93 @ Jul 18 2010, 02:11 PM)
hey guys my joey started to can eat and chew on food de , should i seperate from its parents , i scare it will not have enough vitamin / protein to grow normally!
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i want to reply, i want to advise...but then i feel so fed up, cos u dunno anything but still wanna breed! vmad.gif

leave it to the parents, they'll know what to do with him...
y u wanna separate?
did the parents bully him?
if not then y did u think bout separating them?
if he's not 8 weeks old yet, he still need the guidance from the parents, some even still need milk from the parents even though they can eat by them self shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 19 2010, 10:06 PM)
i want to reply, i want to advise...but then i feel so fed up, cos u dunno anything but still wanna breed! vmad.gif

leave it to the parents, they'll know what to do with him...
y u wanna separate?
did the parents bully him?
if not then y did u think bout separating them?
if he's not 8 weeks old yet, he still need the guidance from the parents, some even still need milk from the parents even though they can eat by them self shakehead.gif
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My sentiment exactly. But if I marah2, people will say I have ulterior motive. People will say I'm mean and heartless. And not only that, they will drag other people down with me.

I have been keeping gliders nearly 3 years now. Not even once I thought of breeding my gliders. I dont believe I have enough knowledge to do so, nor do I believe I am properly and mentally equipped to handle pregnant gliders and baby joeys. So it really pissed me off when newbies just when straight ahead with breeding. "Accidents" are not even a valid reason. Its not an accident when you place un-neutered male and female together. They are animals. They will mate. They doesnt know any better. but you do.

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sifus,
does an electronic mosquito repellent effect the gilders? in term of anything, their smell, or feel, etc etc
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HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!

My male sugar glider is super duper active + aggressive...

he's quite big size, and his fingernails get long damn fast... everytime also will scratch my skin damn pain.. T.T...

Im trying to cut his fingernails but he just won't stay still and let me cut!

Furthermore, he'll just bite my fingers until damn pain if i force him don't let him move....

Any ideas??? I've neutered him, still so aggressive + crazy.......T.T

When I ignore him, he'll come to me and climb on my body or bite my toes to get my attention..

but when i wanna pat him, he'll just run away or avoid any human contact..

i tot i can deal with this at first but its really hard.. it has been 8 months +...

any ideas??????? sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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wah already page 10. hi guys i'm actually silent rider tongue.gif enjoy reading..
but today i was shock. my bobby> i saw his penis ( is that what we call his private thing)? hahaha... damn.. he's so much need attention from female sugar gliders. hahaha..

his penis > at first its look like bleeding but then i touch (yuks) , it kinda .. haha i dont know how to decribe and the smell kinda patch at ur finger . hahaha.. so funny. the smell though is so strong and " pekat" compare to usual smell.
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QUOTE(smacky @ Jul 20 2010, 01:10 AM)
HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!

My male sugar glider is super duper active + aggressive...

he's quite big size, and his fingernails get long damn fast... everytime also will scratch my skin damn pain.. T.T...

Im trying to cut his fingernails but he just won't stay still and let me cut!

Furthermore, he'll just bite my fingers until damn pain if i force him don't let him move....

Any ideas??? I've neutered him, still so aggressive + crazy.......T.T

When I ignore him, he'll come to me and climb on my body or bite my toes to get my attention..

but when i wanna pat him, he'll just run away or avoid any human contact..

i tot i can deal with this at first but its really hard.. it has been 8 months +...

any ideas??????? sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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u got this glider when it's a joey or got it when it's already adult?it's 8 months old or 8 months with u?
for nail cutting put them in a sleeping pouch and cup them inside..then take a leg out one at the time and slowly cut the tip
he run away maybe coz not use to your hands grabbing him..most gliders dun likt to be grab they are not like hamster where u can cuddle in your hands for a long time..some gliders can some just cant..they like to climb jump and glide from high to low areas...they are active animals..just keep the bonding by offering hand feed treats...should be ok..slowly slowly lure to your body/hand then oni give the treat showing tat u mean no harm.

QUOTE(kreiu @ Jul 20 2010, 03:18 AM)
wah already page 10. hi guys i'm actually silent rider tongue.gif enjoy reading..
but today i was shock. my bobby> i saw his penis ( is that what we call his private thing)? hahaha... damn.. he's so much need attention from female sugar gliders. hahaha..

his penis > at first its look like bleeding but then i touch (yuks) , it kinda .. haha i dont know how to decribe and the smell kinda patch at ur finger . hahaha.. so funny. the smell though is so strong and " pekat" compare to usual smell.
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hey there..erm..is it sticking out all the time?
normally when gliders are scared or feel threaten they will release a murky white fluid from their anus..not the penis..very strong stench..so make sure where the mucus come from..
the penis normally it's pinkish red...not blood red might defer in colour but for precaution just watch out for self mutilation..your glider is single glider?since u say got smell i was worried if it's infected or sumtin..or maybe it's urine??not sure if possible show picture or describe more so others can help

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yeah.. its pinkish red.. thas why at first i thought it was bleeding..
i also afraid that it was self mutilation but how can that happen, i mean what is the reason because its not like he's lonely. me and my sister play with him everyday + walk him in the garden everytime my father go to jogging.

the mucus u talking bout, i',m not sure. actually it happen when he's in the porch, and i'm watching tv. usually i'll put my hand inside at slowly rub him. its quite long. and after a while i look back, there goes the anus.. hehehe..

btw it the self mutilation really happen. i know i read some of the post says that but it never happen in front of my eyes. what chances it can happen?

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Jul 20 2010, 11:58 AM)
u got this glider when it's a joey or got it when it's already adult?it's 8 months old or 8 months with u?
for nail cutting put them in a sleeping pouch and cup them inside..then take a leg out one at the time and slowly cut the tip
he run away maybe coz not use to your hands grabbing him..most gliders dun likt to be grab they are not like hamster where u can cuddle in your hands for a long time..some gliders can some just cant..they like to climb jump and glide from high to low areas...they are active animals..just keep the bonding by offering hand feed treats...should be ok..slowly slowly lure to your body/hand then oni give the treat showing tat u mean no harm.
hey there..erm..is it sticking out all the time?
normally when gliders are scared or feel threaten they will release a murky white fluid from their anus..not the penis..very strong stench..so make sure where the mucus come from..
the penis normally it's pinkish red...not blood red might defer in colour but for precaution just watch out for self mutilation..your glider is single glider?since u say got smell i was worried if it's infected or sumtin..or maybe it's urine??not sure if possible show picture or describe more so others can help
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got him for 8 months ad.. been with him for 8 months ad... still so aggressive... yea.. i got put him inside the pouch, but he'll just try to escape because he's quite strong, and i dare not force him too much scared hurt him... T.T... anyway to tame?? he's super duper aggressive and crazy..
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QUOTE(kreiu @ Jul 20 2010, 12:21 PM)
yeah.. its pinkish red.. thas why at first i thought it was bleeding..
i also afraid that it was self mutilation but how can that happen, i mean what is the reason because its not like he's lonely. me and my sister play with him everyday + walk him in the garden everytime my father go to jogging.

the mucus u talking bout, i',m not sure. actually it happen when he's in the porch, and i'm watching tv. usually i'll put my hand inside at slowly rub him. its quite long. and after a while i look back, there goes the anus.. hehehe..

btw it the self mutilation really happen. i know i read some of the post says that but it never happen in front of my eyes. what chances it can happen?
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dunno how u walk the glider in the garden but anyway..maybe u just monitor him few days since u yourself not sure the mucus is from where..self mutilation u can see excess grooming,hair loss,infection...u can read up on the internet for signs and symptoms..hope it's no big deal..


QUOTE(smacky @ Jul 20 2010, 01:07 PM)
got him for 8 months ad.. been with him for 8 months ad... still so aggressive... yea.. i got put him inside the pouch, but he'll just try to escape because he's quite strong, and i dare not force him too much scared hurt him... T.T... anyway to tame?? he's super duper aggressive and crazy..
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how old is your glider when u got it?where did u get it from?
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hey anyone can help me..
just 1 question around what age the joeys change its behavior..??
coz mine just turn abit aggressive i dont why.
i play with him everday 2hr a day..
but lately he started to act abit wild..
anyone can care to explain..??
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Is it male glider?
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my female stopped crabbing at me quite some time dy... but the male one still continue.. haha
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eric:: ya its a male glider its been a month since i buy it from the breeder...
why he behave like that.??the spot on his head havent bold yet...and lately he stop barking...n behave aggressively is he sick or what.??

geo:: your also the same as my chopper but hiro is 4month alrady rite..?
as yueyi said that glider are very alert but i dont understand they have already bond n i think they trust us but why they acting like that do us human are really that scared..??hehehe...

just wait for sifu or others to answer that..
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You are only keeping it for a month, so i guess he is just not familiar and bond with you yet.

Is he an underage or malnourish glider when u took him from breder? If yes, mayb he has gain more strength and energy now as you feeding the correct diet, and now he is able to defend and protect himself..

If he is not, then try to think of anything that you did could contribute to his anxiety and stress? Glider are very alert and sensitive, a small tiny thing that we never tot of could make them frighten.. Such as sounds, any special scents from ur lotion/perfume/detergent...
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ya he is an underage joeys when i brought him..

so he wan to show off his strength la..??
hehe...
ok....thanks for the fast reply....

so can i do anything beside playing with him..??
and 1more thing he stop eating the hpw yesterday...
and he didnt like apple,grape but he like papaya but if i feed papaya everyday its not good for him rite..?
can u tell me what other fruit tht 2 month old joeys can eat..??

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If he was an underage glider, then perhaps he has gone thru miserable life with the breeder previously, such as staying with a big bunch of joey in one small cage, eating improper food, not getting sufficient nutrition and exercise..

So, you can imagine how stress he is previously and i'm sure he is kinda afraid and feeling insecure too. smile.gif

Spend more time with him, it can be as simple as hanging him with u in a bonding pouch all the time, or as fun as playing with him in a tent..

Glider has mood swing, sometime they will jus throwing tanthrum like 3years old child.. Therefore it's kinda normal if he never eat suddenly for a night, but finish up everything on second day.. smile.gif

Grape is not really a good choice to feed often as it's very high in oxalic acid..make sure u peel off the skin and take off the seeds..

Papaya is good, u can feed everyday but tag along with some high fiber food..otherwise the poop will be soft and smelly..

A lot fruits in malaysia can be fed to gliders, such as rambutan, mango, honeydew, sweet melon, persimmon, watermelon, nangka, ciku, sugar cane, apple, pear, and etc..
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May I ask, where can you get those huge (2 stories) cages at a reasonable price and how much? Thanks man!
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eric:thanks...last question how to play with them the proper way...care to explain...
please i afrid that the way i play with him are too rough for him and that make him stress and afrid..


But one thing that i love them that evrytime i open the cage he will jump on me or on my hand..

do they allways do that..?

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May I ask, where can you get those huge (2 stories) cages at a reasonable price and how much? Thanks man!
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Erm... i don get what u mean by 2 stories..basically those glider cages are categorized by their height.. we hav 3feet (about 100), 4feet (300plus), 4.5feet(300plus), 5feet(500plus) and even bigger...

QUOTE(ForGe @ Jul 21 2010, 08:39 PM)
eric:thanks...last question hope to play with them the proper way...care to explain...
please i afrid that i spent time with him are too rough for him and that make him stress and afrid..but one thing that i love them that evrytime i open the cage he will jump on me or on my hand..do they allways do that..?
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Erm, when we mentioned bout 'play' with gliders, is actually the 'interaction' between you and the glider.. And there are two ways to get glider to be more familiar with you, either u talk to them, which we cant because we dono their language.. Or let the glider recognize your scent..

Everyone of us has unique body scent, you will need to get your glider to recognize this scent and feel secure with ur own scent.. That's why, do not use any body lotion/perfume/deodorant products when interacting with your glider.

As long as you interact with your glider, playing time can be in various form. For beginners or for those bitey glider, you can initially use bonding pouch first. Zip them inside, and hang them on your chest.. Let them smell you, hear your heart beat and your voice and get familiar with you... After sometime when the glider doesnt really bite and feel more secure with you, you can proceed to next level where you release them in a glider proof room or a tent.. Get them to explore your body, and gain their trust.. Sooner or later, the glider will be ok and rely on you, then you can jus simply bring them with you on ur body, letting them sleep inside ur cloth or your pocket...

It's fun when the glider really ok with you.. When i bring my gliders to college, i don really carry them in the pouch..i normally let them out freely on my body.. they will stand on my bag or my shoulder then running around my body and see see surrounding, after sometime they will goes into my cloth or pocket to sleep.. smile.gif Of course, i still bring a bonding pouch with me for any unexpected event.

For those who are not certain whether the glider will stay quietly on you, better practise more at home first.. I do not want to see any owner lost their glider because they take them out in public and the glider jump away...

Erm, talk bout jumping on you when u open cage..it could be they really take you as good playmate, or it could be jus they wanted to go out of the cage very much.. smile.gif When the glider are bonded with you, i'm sure you can feel the difference.. Look at their big eyes, you will no longer see fear or anxiety in them..
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2 stories as in two floors if you have one haha. How about the black one on the first page? How much is it and where can you get it cheap? Thanks in advance man.
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tongue.gif some gliders a bit mengada..if with me sikit sikit nak merajuk or peeking with suspense first (coz i am the bad guy always clipping their nails and feeding them medicine first thing in the morning) but with my mom and dad even though they play abit rough with the gliders.. pantang dengar being called they'll come running coz always get treats like grape and half boiled eggs and they get carried around freely..main kat garden.. doh.gif
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eric: woh thank for the long detail..oo no wonder chopper sometime afird coz i have dfrnt scent..so i gues i hve to shower 1st b4 handing him..hehe..

ok sifu i try step at a time to improve our bond..hehe thanks for sharing the exprice
with me... i will update any progres in the near future..later tonignt i will upload some picture.. thank again eric...

glidermama: i cant wait to do all that stuff with him claping their nails and most of all the exprince to come or look when be called..that will be my sweetes moment with him cant wait for all the things to happen to me...!!!

thanks for sharing all the wonderful time u with ur glider with us the mber of this forum....
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is there anyone from kedah..? my college goin to held an exhibition.. so a tend with table are give to me.. so im going to view all types of exotic pet including tarantula, scorps, snakes, SG ect.. so to those who want to join me n bring ur pets along are welcome.. pls PM me.. the exhibition are on august...
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2 stories as in two floors if you have one haha. How about the black one on the first page? How much is it and where can you get it cheap? Thanks in advance man.
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The black one is 4feet and white one is 4.5feet.. Erm... It comes with few steel ladder where you can put inside the cage with ur own design..By doing this, u can make your cage up to 3-4 stories, even 5....lol..but i never use it because i prefer my glider to jump here and there without any obstacles...Since they prefer jumping gliding rather than crawling the staircase..

As i mentioned b4, 4ft and 4.5ft is bout 300 plus..

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eric: woh thank for the long detail..oo no wonder chopper sometime afird coz i have dfrnt scent..so i gues i hve to shower 1st b4 handing him..hehe..

ok sifu i try step at a time to improve our bond..hehe thanks for sharing the exprice
with me... i will update any progres in the near future..later tonignt i will upload some picture.. thank again eric...

glidermama: i cant wait to do all that stuff with him claping their nails and most of all the exprince to come or look when be called..that will be my sweetes moment with him cant wait for all the things to happen to me...!!!

thanks for sharing all the wonderful time u with ur glider with us the mber of this forum....
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You are mostly welcome. If you know you gonna play with them, then do not use any lotion or perfume on your body.. Wait bout 10-15minutes after shower, then only play with them.. this is because u wanna let the shower gel's scent diminish and ur own body scent will come out.

Be more aware on the thing that you touches or get in contact before handling ur glider, especially those they perceive as predator, such as cats, dogs, birds and etc.. Glider will react aggressively towards all these...

Enjoy and hav fun in the bonding process with your glider... smile.gif
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Added on July 22, 2010, 5:13 pmoya.. when i bring them out... they normally just slp in the pouch... hahah

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hi guys... just wondering... how do u clean the suggies cage? not the tray below... i mean the cage itself... i read dat we can use cooking vinegar... is dat true? just asking for opinions...
also... can we wash the bonding and sleeping pouch using detergent? im afraid it coz harm to the suggies...
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 23 2010, 09:06 PM)
hi guys... just wondering... how do u clean the suggies cage? not the tray below... i mean the cage itself... i read dat we can use cooking vinegar... is dat true? just asking for opinions...
also... can we wash the bonding and sleeping pouch using detergent? im afraid it coz harm to the suggies...
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er guys , can you tell me more about wild sugar glider? what's the difference between a wild and a home breed one? maybe home breed is more tamed than the wild , but still we can tame the wild sugar glider itself right?
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our momo beginning to walk on my hands/arms now... but only when it is dark or little light visible...
his claw did leave marks on my hands and arms... guess i should trim his nail... now need to find the right time to trim it... smile.gif
also... when momo on my hand... it try to chew my hand also... is this normal? i guess momo still didnt trust me... sad.gif
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 24 2010, 02:22 PM)
our momo beginning to walk on my hands/arms now... but only when it is dark or little light visible...
his claw did leave marks on my hands and arms... guess i should trim his nail... now need to find the right time to trim it... smile.gif
also... when momo on my hand... it try to chew my hand also... is this normal? i guess momo still didnt trust me... sad.gif
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if it's defensive bite might be painful and might have bit of scaring/bruising/bleeding for worse case senario..
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Hi guys. would love to get some info in here.. me and my wife currently own a female sg named molly. she's a bout 8 - 9 months old now. she's a happy sg who has been alone all this while. we're getting a male companion for her today. the thing i'm concerned is that, she has never had any companion all this while and we're worried that she may attack the younger male that we're getting. i forgot to mention that she's a bossy one too. now we realise that the introduction is very essential. i'd love get some useful pointer to go about the introduction ritual. i'm very good with dogs, as i own many pitbulls living in peace. but sgs are something out of my expertise.

all comments and guidelines are greatly appreciated.
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There are few ways to proper introduce your gliders, and jus like the same concept applies on dogs, you let them know the presence of each other and slowly accept one another..

The most common and popular methods that we used is side by side cage and pouch swapping.. Put both cages near, but not too near until they can reach one another (in case if one of them reach their paws and scratch another).. They will see and smell every night, and they will communicate by using their special vocal language..

At the same time, swap their sleepiing pouch and bonding pouch every 2-3days.. This is a very good way to let them get familliar with opposite party's smell..

After 1week, you can try putting them together in a NEUTRAL place..Neutral place as in a place that: 1) doesnt hav owner smell because u do not want ur first glider to be dominant as she is very familliar with ur smell 2) doesnt contain any of both gliders' smell, because u do not want any one of them to be dominant too...

Therefore, ur bedroom, ur glider room are not neutral place yea...

Put them in a neutral place, then see how they react with one another.. Normally they will be alert and sniff one another... If they fight, seperate and put them back at their own pouch.. Do not force them to be together as it will trigger more insecure and anger.. smile.gif

If they fight, then repeat side by side cage and pouch swapping again for another week..

If they don, then u can try putting them in a same sleeping pouch..AND, observe and monitor them at night.. Some gliders gets along well at noon, but will fight for food at nite when they are active..

Monitor them for at least 2-3 days, to make sure they REALLY get along well. smile.gif
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wow... rclxms.gif that really gives me a good foundation to start with.. not to mention all step you elaborated in detail. great stuff. just brought the glider home. gonna start with ur suggested method right away. thumbup.gif

thanks alot. biggrin.gif
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if after a few days still can hear some fighting sound does it mean i cant put them together?
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hi guys... questions again from noob me... smile.gif
if u go travel... like balik kampung... u bring your sugar glider also?
did u have extra cage in hometown or u bring your own cage to hometown?

im thinking of bring our momo back to our hometown... but over there dont have the cage for our momo... do u guys have any cage recommendation for travel purpose? is the 3ft cage ok?
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 26 2010, 02:07 PM)
hi guys... questions again from noob me... smile.gif
if u go travel... like balik kampung... u bring your sugar glider also?
did u have extra cage in hometown or u bring your own cage to hometown?

im thinking of bring our momo back to our hometown... but over there dont have the cage for our momo... do u guys have any cage recommendation for travel purpose? is the 3ft cage ok?
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im going to Singapore for training for 4 months, im thinking of how to bring my Venus to Singapore, and the cage problem@@
i wonder any Singapore SG fans here? hows the price of 3 feet cage there?
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 26 2010, 02:07 PM)
hi guys... questions again from noob me... smile.gif
if u go travel... like balik kampung... u bring your sugar glider also?
did u have extra cage in hometown or u bring your own cage to hometown?

im thinking of bring our momo back to our hometown... but over there dont have the cage for our momo... do u guys have any cage recommendation for travel purpose? is the 3ft cage ok?
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Get the Explorarium as pictured above. Sold at some pets store.

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im facing the same problem rclxub.gif
im going to Singapore for training for 4 months, im thinking of how to bring my Venus to Singapore, and the cage problem@@
i wonder any Singapore SG fans here? hows the price of 3 feet cage there?
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Singaporean laws forbid Sugar Glider. Please dont.

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thanks emino... never thought of dat cage before... smile.gif
is it the same as this one? http://www.petshack.com.my/webshaper/store...ProductItem=835

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emino promo pet shack... nih ader share saham pet shack ker nih
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emino promo pet shack... nih ader share saham pet shack ker nih
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I havent even mention any pets store names. Come on lah. I've been on this board longer than most of you. I know that direct promotion is prohibited. So WHY oh WHY does people keeps being stupid and suggested things like this? Sure, I often shop at Pet Shack. Thats because they have all that I need. Its not about share or some other shit, you moron.

HE ASK A QUESTION. I SHOW HIM AN ANSWER. COMPLETE WITH PICTURES!

Why must you stupidly insinuate other shits?

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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 26 2010, 03:24 PM)
Okay. Why on earth SOME people in this thread seems to be IDIOTS?

I havent even mention any pets store names. Come on lah. I've been on this board longer than most of you. I know that direct promotion is prohibited. So WHY oh WHY does people keeps being stupid and suggested things like this? Sure, I often shop at Pet Shack. Thats because they have all that I need. Its not about share or some other shit, you moron.

HE ASK A QUESTION. I SHOW HIM AN ANSWER. COMPLETE WITH PICTURES!

Why must you stupidly insinuate other shits?
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rileks everyone... sorry if i cause to much trouble...
bro emino is rite... he didnt mention any pet store name in his post... by looking at the picture, i wouldnt know also which petstore he goes...
btw... thanks for sharing the info and pics...

questions again... i realize there are 2 sizes in the pics... is the smaller one enough for our single suggies?

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bro, rilek lar... did not mean to hurt anyone.. be cool bro...
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 26 2010, 03:48 PM)
rileks everyone... sorry if i cause to much trouble...
bro emino is rite... he didnt mention any pet store name in his post... by looking at the picture, i wouldnt know also which petstore he goes...
btw... thanks for sharing the info and pics...

questions again... i realize there are 2 sizes in the pics... is the smaller one enough for our single suggies?
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There are 3 sizes actually. The medium one would be the best option, as the first one is too huge and not exactly portable, and the smaller one is quite restictive for the glider to jump around.
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huh!? really?
why they forbid Sugar Glider huh? sad.gif since they so cute and the most important is they are harmless
so no ways for Venus to go to Singapore with me right? cry.gif
then i need to looking some1 to take care her for me for 4 months!

besides, normally, i think Petshack will be the 1st impression for us if we are looking for any SG's stuff rite?
since they have most of the stuff that we need, with pictures! biggrin.gif

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Hi guys...I have a heart-breaking news cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif...my mom lost my beloved Bell and Bella( in bonding pouch) this early morning at the bus station while she was getting off the bus to transit to another bus...she was carrying 4 bonding pouches and because she got a lot of things to carry by hand and also was in a hurry (because the bus driver asked everyone to change the bus to another bus). She only realized that one of the pouch was missing when she wants to take a taxi, and another thing is, she came to visit me since there's no one who can take care of my gliders...so.., she brought them along with her. I cried this whole day until my eyes so puffy..Even though my mom has bought me another two joeys to replace my Bell and Bella (and she named them Bell and Bella) they are not the same because each glider has their own personality.........!!!
bye.gif bye.gif bye.gif BELL and BELLA............
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ya coz of the SARS n H1N1 i think...
no pets are allowed to enter sgpore.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 26 2010, 04:44 PM)
Hi guys...I have a heart-breaking news cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif...my mom lost my beloved Bell and Bella( in bonding pouch) this early morning at the bus station while she was getting off the bus to transit to another bus...she was carrying 4 bonding pouches and because she got a lot of things to carry by hand and also was in a hurry (because the bus driver asked everyone to change the bus to another bus). She only realized that one of the pouch was missing when she wants to take a taxi, and another thing is, she came to visit me since there's no one who can take care of my gliders...so.., she brought them along with her. I cried this whole day until my eyes so puffy..Even though my mom has bought me another two joeys to replace my Bell and Bella (and she named them Bell and Bella) they are not the same because each glider has their own personality.........!!!   
bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif BELL and BELLA............
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QUOTE(nevermine @ Jul 26 2010, 03:55 PM)
huh!? really?
why they forbid Sugar Glider huh? sad.gif  since they so cute and the most important is they are harmless
so no ways for Venus to go to Singapore with me right?  cry.gif
then i need to looking some1 to take care her for me for 4 months!

besides, normally, i think Petshack will be the 1st impression for us if we are looking for any SG's stuff rite?
since they have most of the stuff that we need, with pictures! biggrin.gif
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Sg banned most of the exotic animals, sugar glider is one of the list. The government does not allow residents there to keep non-domesticated pets..This is because if a huge amount of glider are being abandoned and run freely in the country, it will mess up the balance of ecosystem.. Imagine, a glider mate with a native squirrel, then produce a new species...

Fyi, some countries label glider as pest..

Don try to sneak in glider to sg, you and your glider will be in big trouble if someone report to the authority.. You donwan that to be happened.. I'm going away to UK for few months too next year, without my pets.. T-T

Make sure u find some reliable people to look after for u...

QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 26 2010, 04:44 PM)
Hi guys...I have a heart-breaking news cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif...my mom lost my beloved Bell and Bella( in bonding pouch) this early morning at the bus station while she was getting off the bus to transit to another bus...she was carrying 4 bonding pouches and because she got a lot of things to carry by hand and also was in a hurry (because the bus driver asked everyone to change the bus to another bus). She only realized that one of the pouch was missing when she wants to take a taxi, and another thing is, she came to visit me since there's no one who can take care of my gliders...so.., she brought them along with her. I cried this whole day until my eyes so puffy..Even though my mom has bought me another two joeys to replace my Bell and Bella (and she named them Bell and Bella) they are not the same because each glider has their own personality.........!!!   
bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif BELL and BELLA............
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 26 2010, 04:44 PM)
Hi guys...I have a heart-breaking news cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif...my mom lost my beloved Bell and Bella( in bonding pouch) this early morning at the bus station while she was getting off the bus to transit to another bus...she was carrying 4 bonding pouches and because she got a lot of things to carry by hand and also was in a hurry (because the bus driver asked everyone to change the bus to another bus). She only realized that one of the pouch was missing when she wants to take a taxi, and another thing is, she came to visit me since there's no one who can take care of my gliders...so.., she brought them along with her. I cried this whole day until my eyes so puffy..Even though my mom has bought me another two joeys to replace my Bell and Bella (and she named them Bell and Bella) they are not the same because each glider has their own personality.........!!!   
bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif BELL and BELLA............
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Sg banned most of the exotic animals, sugar glider is one of the list. The government does not allow residents there to keep non-domesticated pets..This is because if a huge amount of glider are being abandoned and run freely in the country, it will mess up the balance of ecosystem.. Imagine, a glider mate with a native squirrel, then produce a new species...

Fyi, some countries label glider as pest..

Don try to sneak in glider to sg, you and your glider will be in big trouble if someone report to the authority.. You donwan that to be happened.. I'm going away to UK for few months too next year, without my pets.. T-T

Make sure u find some reliable people to look after for u...
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hope Eric will do tongue.gif
im worrying later when i come back 4 months later, she will be unfamiliar with me, then i will be very sad cry.gif

huh! SGs are know as PEST in some countries? such as?
i hope i can see some wild SG here@@
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QUOTE(nevermine @ Jul 26 2010, 06:06 PM)
hope Eric will do tongue.gif
im worrying later when i come back 4 months later, she will be unfamiliar with me, then i will be very sad cry.gif

huh! SGs are know as PEST in some countries? such as?
i hope i can see some wild SG here@@
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 26 2010, 04:44 PM)
Hi guys...I have a heart-breaking news cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif...my mom lost my beloved Bell and Bella( in bonding pouch) this early morning at the bus station while she was getting off the bus to transit to another bus...she was carrying 4 bonding pouches and because she got a lot of things to carry by hand and also was in a hurry (because the bus driver asked everyone to change the bus to another bus). She only realized that one of the pouch was missing when she wants to take a taxi, and another thing is, she came to visit me since there's no one who can take care of my gliders...so.., she brought them along with her. I cried this whole day until my eyes so puffy..Even though my mom has bought me another two joeys to replace my Bell and Bella (and she named them Bell and Bella) they are not the same because each glider has their own personality.........!!!   
bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif BELL and BELLA............
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aiya, y so careless...
sorry for your loss...
let's hope some animal lover found ur babies...
i can't imagine what will happen to them...
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My teardrops can't stop rolling down my cheek, when ever I think of them...Hopefully someone found them and take good care of them for me. There's a lot going on in my mind right now, all the horrible thing that could happened to them..I pray to 'GOD' hopefully it is not true or could not happened...!! sad.gif unsure.gif mega_shok.gif
These bound to happen to those unfortunate one, in one way or another and I have to accept it......because that's human nature in/of life(for the unfortunate ones ) that is....... sad.gif sad.gif STILL....WHY....!!
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jul 26 2010, 09:15 PM)

aiya, y so careless...
sorry for your loss...
let's hope some animal lover found ur babies...
i can't imagine what will happen to them...
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cheer up~ icon_idea.gif allenna
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cant blame your mom, i used to take the bus...it's hard to handle several small items all in one go..if you're the owner then OF COURSE you'd be checking all the time coz dah jadi habit already but if not..we cant judge..she was trying to help.

have you tried contacting the bus company?maybe if your mom remembered the bus number and route/time..you might be able to check if they found the pouch (which may mean you get to collect them at the lost and found) or if not then maybe some kind soul found them already?

whichever way, i hope you and them will be alright.
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 26 2010, 04:44 PM)
Hi guys...I have a heart-breaking news cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif...my mom lost my beloved Bell and Bella( in bonding pouch) this early morning at the bus station while she was getting off the bus to transit to another bus...she was carrying 4 bonding pouches and because she got a lot of things to carry by hand and also was in a hurry (because the bus driver asked everyone to change the bus to another bus). She only realized that one of the pouch was missing when she wants to take a taxi, and another thing is, she came to visit me since there's no one who can take care of my gliders...so.., she brought them along with her. I cried this whole day until my eyes so puffy..Even though my mom has bought me another two joeys to replace my Bell and Bella (and she named them Bell and Bella) they are not the same because each glider has their own personality.........!!!   
bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif BELL and BELLA............
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but wad done is done, u eventually have to accept it... sad.gif

QUOTE(eric138 @ Jul 26 2010, 04:59 PM)
Sg banned most of the exotic animals, sugar glider is one of the list. The government does not allow residents there to keep non-domesticated pets..This is because if a huge amount of glider are being abandoned and run freely in the country, it will mess up the balance of ecosystem.. Imagine, a glider mate with a native squirrel, then produce a new species...

Fyi, some countries label glider as pest..

Don try to sneak in glider to sg, you and your glider will be in big trouble if someone report to the authority.. You donwan that to be happened.. I'm going away to UK for few months too next year, without my pets.. T-T

Make sure u find some reliable people to look after for u...
Sorry to know that..
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 27 2010, 01:02 AM)
My teardrops can't stop rolling down my cheek, when ever I think of them...Hopefully someone found them and take good care of them for me. There's a lot going on in my mind right now, all the horrible thing that could happened to them..I pray to 'GOD' hopefully it is not true or could not happened...!! sad.gif  unsure.gif  mega_shok.gif
These bound to happen to those unfortunate one, in one way or another and I have to accept it......because that's human nature in/of life(for the unfortunate ones ) that is....... sad.gif  sad.gif  STILL....WHY....!!
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sorry for your lost..i'm sure your mom herself cares a lot about them even take them along in bonding pouch..it's due to carelessness and hope someone good hearted to give the suggies a proper home..cheer up..just wish for the best
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Thanks you guys..I feel a little bit comfort and a bit relief after reading your comments, and glidermama......, I already called the bus company to check weather my pouch is in the bus but they said they didn't find it. Like you said before, maybe someone found them and took them home......
My mom feels really..really bad for abandoning them (without realizing) and then, have the time to go and buy another (that same morning)....to replaced the lost. And now she's the one who carries the pouch to bond with them cause, they keep crabbing all the time. I will be coming back this weekend and hope to bond with them. It will be hard at first because I have to start all over again and not to mention........the time. unsure.gif wacko.gif unsure.gif
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is it sick, over grooming or something? sad to c this..
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i just adopt a pair of suggies, the female's ears looks shrunken a bit..the owner said,its normal cz the male are quiet aggressive while ehem2 brows.gif

izit so? sad.gif
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 27 2010, 02:32 PM)
Thanks you guys..I feel a little bit comfort and a bit relief after reading your  comments, and glidermama......, I already called the bus company to check weather my pouch is in the bus but they said they didn't find it. Like you said before, maybe someone found them and took them home......
My mom feels really..really bad for abandoning them (without realizing) and then, have the time to go and buy another (that same morning)....to replaced the lost. And now she's the one who carries the pouch to bond with them cause, they keep crabbing all the time. I will be coming back this weekend and hope to bond with them. It will be hard at first because I have to start all over again and not to mention........the time.  unsure.gif  wacko.gif  unsure.gif
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So sorry to hear about what happened. Well, things happen. For now we all can just hope they have found someone good to take care of them.

You can try your luck by putting a few notices around bus stops and also in pet forums to see if any pet lover found them.

QUOTE(piggyzai @ Jul 27 2010, 03:51 PM)
i came across this pic in GliderCENTRAL..and wad  the hell is this?!!
http://www.glidercentral.net/gallery/main....2_itemId=112265

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is it sick, over grooming or something? sad to c this..
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It doesn't look like over grooming. Could be it was born with a hairless defect coz from the look of it, it is not sore from overgrooming.

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hi everyone~

i just adopt a pair of suggies, the female's ears looks shrunken a bit..the owner said,its normal cz the male are quiet aggressive while ehem2 brows.gif

izit so? sad.gif
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Do ask the previous owner, did he/she bath them and use a hair dryer?

Got 3 possibilities, the ears were either eaten away by mites or they were eaten by the mom when it was a joey or it was burned by heat from a hair dryer.

Aggressive gliders do not attack ears....

I also hope you are not thinking of breeding them.

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hi guys......
im really new here...
n i have some problem with my minie....

when i brought her to meet Dr Yeoh last week due to her diarrhea problem,i had mention about dis problem n he said its ok bcoz my minie r stiil baby (6 month)...at dat time,all her abdomen fur r already thinner...
her hair loss r getting worse..its now involve both her hind leg...i can even see her tiny pinky leg n abdomen.. sad.gif
plz.......im so worried............ icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(Fieqra @ Jul 28 2010, 12:10 AM)
hi guys......
im really new here...
n i have some problem with my minie....

when i brought her to meet Dr Yeoh last week due to her diarrhea problem,i had mention about dis problem n he said its ok bcoz my minie r stiil baby (6 month)...at dat time,all her abdomen fur r already thinner...
her hair loss r getting worse..its now involve both her hind leg...i can even see her tiny pinky leg n abdomen.. sad.gif
plz.......im so worried............ icon_question.gif
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Has the diarrhea stopped? 6 months, if it is out of pouch then it is close to adult already.... it's like a teen, juvi glider.

But it is not normal. This is why I don't like to recommend Dr Yeoh, he don't really know much about glider. He can only treat mild things but when it comes to stuff like hair loss and UTI, I find he not so experience in it.

What have you been feeding? How have you been keeping? Use any bedding? Where did you bought your joey? What it sleeps in? Does you joey scratch and lick her fur alot?

From my experience with seeing many joeys that have this kinda hair loss problem, it can be a lack of nutrition, bad hygiene, mites or overgrooming.... but it is rare to overgroom till so much hair loss.
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any1 hv any other vets to recommend other than dr Yeoh? cz i oso find him inexperience in gliders in the way he reply, but for dogs he is really good at it...
Is dr Jenny really retire d ar?
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huh!? really?
why they forbid Sugar Glider huh? sad.gif  since they so cute and the most important is they are harmless
so no ways for Venus to go to Singapore with me right?  cry.gif
then i need to looking some1 to take care her for me for 4 months!

besides, normally, i think Petshack will be the 1st impression for us if we are looking for any SG's stuff rite?
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i dun mind boarding if u got extra cage~
i'm tearing up my junk store-room n goin to make a giant cage jus behind my room since my mom no longer nags me for keeping my lil girl Aki given by wafizul[if i recalled his name properly~] XD

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Sg banned most of the exotic animals, sugar glider is one of the list. The government does not allow residents there to keep non-domesticated pets..This is because if a huge amount of glider are being abandoned and run freely in the country, it will mess up the balance of ecosystem.. Imagine, a glider mate with a native squirrel, then produce a new species...

Fyi, some countries label glider as pest..

Don try to sneak in glider to sg, you and your glider will be in big trouble if someone report to the authority.. You donwan that to be happened.. I'm going away to UK for few months too next year, without my pets.. T-T

Make sure u find some reliable people to look after for u...
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QUOTE(allenna @ Jul 27 2010, 02:02 AM)
My teardrops can't stop rolling down my cheek, when ever I think of them...Hopefully someone found them and take good care of them for me. There's a lot going on in my mind right now, all the horrible thing that could happened to them..I pray to 'GOD' hopefully it is not true or could not happened...!! sad.gif  unsure.gif  mega_shok.gif
These bound to happen to those unfortunate one, in one way or another and I have to accept it......because that's human nature in/of life(for the unfortunate ones ) that is....... sad.gif  sad.gif  STILL....WHY....!!
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jus hope nobody will sit on them,like i use to hop into bus n jus sit without looking on my seat~ shocking.gif
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any1 hv any other vets to recommend other than dr Yeoh? cz i oso find him inexperience in gliders in the way he reply, but for dogs he is really good at it...
Is dr Jenny really retire d ar?
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"REALLY" shocking.gif shocking.gif......what are we supposed to do 'IF' any of our gliders are seriously sick...I remembered like my dear Gizmo was having trouble moving both of it's hind legs, I thought that he had this HLP but Dr. Jenny examined him and said that it wasn't....he had a muscle tear and gave a tablet which was cut into 4 and to be given once at night only. Every night I had to crushed the tablet to make it into powder, mix it with water and fed him with syringe.....and today, Gizmo is able to move, jumped and climbed after the treatment. I never tried Dr. Yeoh before and I don't know where his/her clinic is (location) , because...Dr. Jenny's name was highly recommended by exotic pet owner's especially sugar gliders...
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So, in the meantime if our gliders are sick then we have no vets to bring to is it? Think we better start searching and asking vets clinic around our area n post it here to share if we able to find vets who are able to treat gliders issue.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 28 2010, 12:39 PM)
Has the diarrhea stopped? 6 months, if it is out of pouch then it is close to adult already.... it's like a teen, juvi glider.

But it is not normal. This is why I don't like to recommend Dr Yeoh, he don't really know much about glider. He can only treat mild things but when it comes to stuff like hair loss and UTI, I find he not so experience in it.

What have you been feeding? How have you been keeping? Use any bedding? Where did you bought your joey? What it sleeps in? Does you joey scratch and lick her fur alot?

From my experience with seeing many joeys that have this kinda hair loss problem, it can be a lack of nutrition, bad hygiene, mites or overgrooming.... but it is rare to overgroom till so much hair loss.
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Thanks for your replied even i know u still sad about your bell n bella....sory for your lost....

I got dis cute little creature from my fren dat feel uncomfortable with its diet dat contains meal worms n other such thing. she buy it at melaka; 1st may dis year..she told me,the pet shop's owner said dat dis sg r 3 months..im quite sure dis pet shop r not the professional breeder...

2 days b4 i bring minie to Dr Yeoh,i changed her diet from HPW to suggieslurp.i think she juz not suitable with HPW.juz after 1 days she have the slurp,her poo become better.but i still bring her to meet Dr Yeoh bcoz her underweight problem (20.2gm) sad.gif
Dr said she will b ok since she still active n he give me some deworms med n vit...

I put her in 3 feet cage with sleeping porch n some other accessories..i give her SG premium diet n fresh fruit (day time) n at night i give 4-5 mealworms n suggieslurp..i also blend her veggie with some of your slurp+honey..is it ok?

I will absolutely say YES to your last question..now,she doesnt like to play anymore even at night..after finished her meals,she will go into her sleeping porch...not to sleep but to scratch all over her body!! her abdomen around her pocket r hairless!!! her tail's fur also become thinner... cry.gif

Plez...help me...i dont know what to do..i've clean her cage n the tray below every 2 day with clean water..i wash her porch every 2 weeks..is it anything else dat i have left?...... icon_question.gif


Added on July 29, 2010, 12:59 amCan someone tell me how to post a picture within our text? blush.gif

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Thanks for your replied even i know u still sad about your bell n bella....sory for your lost....

I got dis cute little creature from my fren dat feel uncomfortable with its diet dat contains meal worms n other such thing. she buy it at melaka; 1st may dis year..she told me,the pet shop's owner said dat dis sg r 3 months..im quite sure dis pet shop r not the professional breeder...

2 days b4 i bring minie to Dr Yeoh,i changed her diet from HPW to suggieslurp.i think she juz not suitable with HPW.juz after 1 days she have the slurp,her poo become better.but i still bring her to meet Dr Yeoh bcoz her underweight problem (20.2gm)  sad.gif
Dr said she will b ok since she still active n he give me some deworms med n vit...

I put her in 3 feet cage with sleeping porch n some other accessories..i give her SG premium diet n fresh fruit (day time) n at night i give 4-5 mealworms n suggieslurp..i also blend her veggie with some of your slurp+honey..is it ok?

I will absolutely say YES to your last question..now,she doesnt like to play anymore even at night..after finished her meals,she will go into her sleeping porch...not to sleep but to scratch all over her body!! her abdomen around her pocket r hairless!!! her tail's fur also become thinner... cry.gif

Plez...help me...i dont know what to do..i've clean her cage n the tray below every 2 day with clean water..i wash her porch every 2 weeks..is it anything else dat i have left?...... icon_question.gif


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Ok, glad the diarrhea stopped. But the weight is a bit disturbing. 20g is underweight, most of the well bred joeys are 20g at 14 days Out of pouch. So it is worrying. But I have seen joeys that are 18g but after follow my diet, put on weight and now are big size gliders.

Now the possibility is mites. coz if very itchy, it could be mites. So have to take ivermectin injection for it. It can also be allergies but it is hard to say, it can be anything.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 28 2010, 10:36 PM)
Yes, There are no other vets. Dr Jenny really resign from being a vet anymore and will no longer treat sugar gliders.
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haiz...wonder wad to do if our glider really get sick...
can call Dr Jenny gv Dr Yeoh a lecture about how to treat gliders and other exotic pets ka? LoL
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Ok, glad the diarrhea stopped. But the weight is a bit disturbing. 20g is underweight, most of the well bred joeys are 20g at 14 days Out of pouch. So it is worrying. But I have seen joeys that are 18g but after follow my diet, put on weight and now are big size gliders.

Now the possibility is mites. coz if very itchy, it could be mites. So have to take ivermectin injection for it. It can also be allergies but it is hard to say, it can be anything.
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Can i have that injection from Dr Yeoh?
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QUOTE(piggyzai @ Jul 29 2010, 12:06 PM)
haiz...wonder wad to do if our glider really get sick...
can call Dr Jenny gv Dr Yeoh a lecture about how to treat gliders and other exotic pets ka? LoL
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Dr Yeoh is consider knowledgable in glider compared to many other vets... No matter how good a vet is, it's still possible where misdiagnosis happen.. especially in sugar glider..they are just too small and a lot complication in diagnosing them..

QUOTE(Fieqra @ Jul 29 2010, 12:52 PM)
Can i have that injection from Dr Yeoh?
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I think Dr Yeoh can treat mites, there are some forum members' glider treated by him before.
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Jul 29 2010, 04:30 PM)
Dr Yeoh is consider knowledgable in glider compared to many other vets...  No matter how good a vet is, it's still possible where misdiagnosis happen.. especially in sugar glider..they are just too small and a lot complication in diagnosing them..
I think Dr Yeoh can treat mites, there are some forum members' glider treated by him before.
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TQ guys..
really appreciate all the advice....

Erm..juz wanna know something..
is there any different between mealworm, superworm, waxworm, etc..?
i never give her any other insects unless mealworms...is it ok?
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today finally im able to cut our momo nails... took me 15 minutes to do it... and he keeps on crabbing all the time... maybe he not used to it... is this normal?
hopefully his nails wont puncture my skins anymore... smile.gif
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why the body sugar glider 'terketar-ketar' aa? izit it sick? And sometimes it also seem like lifeless.. Please help.
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why the body sugar glider 'terketar-ketar' aa? izit it sick? And sometimes it also seem like lifeless.. Please help.
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its normal for glider after they are waken up from sleep.. is it continuously?



btw,they do eat insect but is it okay for them to be feed with alive cricket that are sold in fishing shop?
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hmm can anyone explained to me why my glider are smaller the the baby glider u see i have 2 glider with me 1 my chopper and the other 1 is my friends i take care of her coz she is an underage joeys but its been a month since i take care of chichi and now chichi are biger then chopper...but chopper are a male glider that 3 month old n chicji are femail glider age are about 2 month++...
any one care to explained what going on here n are my chopper sick or any things.....
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QUOTE(notystar_exe @ Jul 30 2010, 03:04 AM)
its normal for glider after they are waken up from sleep.. is it continuously?
btw,they do eat insect but is it okay for them to be feed with alive cricket that are sold in fishing shop?
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Ohh.. But yep.. It continuosly.. Even after 30minutes i play with SG it also terketar2..
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my heart aches seeing the SG in the pix... sad.gif

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i came across this pic in GliderCENTRAL..and wad  the hell is this?!!
http://www.glidercentral.net/gallery/main....2_itemId=112265

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is it sick, over grooming or something? sad to c this..
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 29 2010, 05:55 PM)
today finally im able to cut our momo nails... took me 15 minutes to do it... and he keeps on crabbing all the time... maybe he not used to it... is this normal?
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He jus not used to it..

QUOTE(notystar_exe @ Jul 30 2010, 03:04 AM)
its normal for glider after they are waken up from sleep.. is it continuously?
btw,they do eat insect but is it okay for them to be feed with alive cricket that are sold in fishing shop?
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Make sure u gut load the insects before feeding to ur glider..to make sure it's clean and full of nutrition.

QUOTE(ForGe @ Jul 30 2010, 03:39 AM)
hmm can anyone explained to me why my glider are smaller the the baby glider u see i have 2 glider with me 1 my chopper and the other 1 is my friends i take care of her coz she is an underage joeys but its been a month since i take care of chichi and now chichi are biger then chopper...but chopper are a male glider that 3 month old n chicji are femail glider age are about 2 month++...
any one care to explained what going on here n are my chopper sick or any things.....
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Just like human, we have slim people and fat people.. Some gliders are born with bigger bone structure and some are smaller.. To determine a glider is sick or not, we shouldnt jus justify by looking at their size.. Routine behavioral, eating appetite, physical symptoms should be taken into account.. smile.gif

When glider immune system goes down, the first thing the body will give out is the skin and coat, because the body wan to reserve the immunity for other major organs and system.. therefore, loss of fur/dull coat/thinning hair are always the first symptom to show up when a glider is sick...


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TQ guys..
really appreciate all the advice....

Erm..juz wanna know something..
is there any different between mealworm, superworm, waxworm, etc..?
i never give her any other insects unless mealworms...is it ok?
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There are difference between all kind of insects.. Their phosphorus protein and fat content are all vary.

Not only that, the same mealworm in different life stages (pupae, worms, beetle, eggs) will have different nutritional analysis too..

Amount of insects feeding really depend on the diet that you are using. If you are HPW user, u do not need to feed insects because HPW has given sufficient protein to your glider. Instead, we use insects as treats.. jus one or two in a day...

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fabulous eric!!until now i cant feed them bugs.. worms etc.. uch as i buy the silkworm etc..tak jalan..

true true.. just like people ada yg kurus ada yg gemok..yg penting healthy..like kelvin's cairo wub.gif is fatty fatty bulat but apparently he is healthy and active..my 11 months furla is still smaller than than RJ despite her eating voraciously..the semua tibai type and rj is the picky eater doh.gif ..and he's the taiko samseng looking one..especially after kena snip.. tongue.gif
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eric:thanks for the explantion hmm i think that chopper dosnt hve all the sintome that u mantion...hmm i will keep z close look at him if he act strangly then i will have to consider to take him to see the vet..

glidermama:hehe chopper love the superworm that i give him..the first time he just smell it then shack off his head what i do is i cubit kepala superworm make it bleed then offer to chopper again he terus attk the superworm and eat it..why dont u try this...hope its work gud luck..
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can i believe Dr.Yoeh on neutering? coz i sending my male glider to neutering this month...
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jul 29 2010, 05:55 PM)
today finally im able to cut our momo nails... took me 15 minutes to do it... and he keeps on crabbing all the time... maybe he not used to it... is this normal?
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Yeap yeap, it's normal (: My babies were also not used to it at first. Now more calm and quiet d. (:

QUOTE(ForGe @ Jul 30 2010, 03:39 AM)
hmm can anyone explained to me why my glider are smaller the the baby glider u see i have 2 glider with me 1 my chopper and the other 1 is my friends i take care of her coz she is an underage joeys but its been a month since i take care of chichi and now chichi are biger then chopper...but chopper are a male glider that 3 month old n chicji are femail glider age are about 2 month++...
any one care to explained what going on here n are my chopper sick or any things.....
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Some gliders tend to be smaller in size. Different bone structure and everything. One of my gliders are also smaller in size compared to others biggrin.gif Hehe. Easy for me to differentiate between both my girls tongue.gif Hee!
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can i believe Dr.Yoeh on neutering? coz i sending my male glider to neutering this month...
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If i don remember wrong, Emino's glider was neutered there. And, the operation turned out well.

Erm, so far i never heard any complaints or negative reviews about Dr Yeoh yet..Jus don't know why lately some people suddenly popped out and talked bad bout him.. Never really visited him b4 though, so i can jus give opinion from information i could get. smile.gif

And, i asked Dr Jenny bout Dr Yeoh b4, she did mention he is a good one though... smile.gif
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Teddy was neutered by Dr. Yeoh nearly 3 years ago. He's still here, happy and healthy. In fact he is healthier after being neutered.
Be warned though. Dr. Yeoh's method is different than Dr. Jenny's. Dr. Yeoh removed the entire ball sack, while Dr. Jenny keeps it.
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i wonder what sounds do u guys use to call ur suggies? brows.gif
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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 30 2010, 08:47 PM)
Teddy was neutered by Dr. Yeoh nearly 3 years ago. He's still here, happy and healthy. In fact he is healthier after being neutered.
Be warned though. Dr. Yeoh's method is different than Dr. Jenny's. Dr. Yeoh removed the entire ball sack, while Dr. Jenny keeps it.
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Dr Jenny can do in both way actually, either remove the whole balls str8 a way or jus cut the vas deferens...
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regarding the 2 ways of neutered, is there pros and cons of both ways?
btw... how much the cost for neutered?
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Cost ranges from RM150 & above depending on the vet & procedure.

Pros
Usually will have less smell from the cage as they have lost their jewels that make them territorial & scent mark. Secondly, population control.

Cons
Risk during surgery till recovery (self-mutilation) which depends mainly on the vet & what type of procedure.

Procedures
As far as I know, there are 3 types of procedures.
1 is to remove not only the testicles, the area around the scrotum as well.
2 is to use a type of laser to remove just the testicles & scrotum.
3 is just to remove the testicles. Leaving the scrotum still attatched.

Dr. Jenny encouraged the 3rd procedure as it requires minimal tissue handling, equals to quicker & cleaner procedure & minimal chance of the glider getting irritated/itchy/infection around the neutered area.

2nd procedure is simple & quick but I heard there were some complications after surgery so it's not recommended.

1st requires the most tissue handling & risk, irritation, infection etc are all more likely to happen as to compared to the 3rd.

Gliders I know that underwent the 1st procedure is KP's Iggy by Taman Megah's Dr. Yeoh. Also the first pet glider to be neutered in Malaysia, if I remember correctly.

Good thing about 3rd procedure, your glider still has a scrotum hanging, which still makes him look like a male.

I've had some ppl asking me about neutering while inquiring about my gliders for adoption but quite a few of them did not understand why I specified only 1 or 2 vets they must go to for treatment & neutering.

Reasons are
- They are exotic pets. Not all vets can treat exotic pets. Most vets don't even accept exotic pets for treatment.
- Neutering is not an easy job. The tubes connecting the testicles to the body are finer than thread. Most vets don't even carry the extra fine surture needed for such a delicate procedure.
- Miscalculation of anesthesia & overdose = accidental euthanasia = death



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I've also wrote some of the extra benefits of neutering (more like copy and paste laugh.gif) here a while back:
http://mysuggieclub.wordpress.com/2010/03/...-sugar-gliders/

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how actually the appropriate hygiene care for SG?i wash her porch, clean the cage, change her water every week...but her hair lost r getting worse..
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@Reanne & @emino: thanks guys for the great advice...
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Guys, any tips to reduce its odor? Mainly the cage lah. Thanks!
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clean more often?
must have a bit of smell wan...else if u clean everyday, they won't recognize it's their place n mark even more
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anybody got idea how to teach an adult not to bite? he cant recognize between my fingers and its food..lol the scars still there for a week!
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did u got ur glider as adult or joey?and how long u have had ur glider?

there are diferent bite for joey and adult usually light bite more like a nip tat not puncture the skins and the threated bite tat cost bleeding

but u can try stoping ur glider by poking at thier nose OR blowing at thier face then say "no" to them

personally i prefered poking at the nose this will puzzle them for few sec so while i say "no" and point tat finger at them. normally they will stare at tat finger while i pull the finger tat got biten away.have to do untill they learn it worng to bite hard on ur finger or hand

sometimes i will dip my finger with honey , yogurt or hpw then let them lick clean this will ensure tat they remember when my finger is near they will be rewarded not threats. im sure u like them to lick then bite ur finger right!

biting normaly get lessen when ur glider got bonded so give some pation and time and follow bonding methods on the first page

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thx for the info guys.. i hav to keep my word.. sending Joey to Dr.Yeoh this month.. Thx Reanne
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how is everybody little monster doing? tongue.gif

btw, normally deworm is once per month? i din feed mealworm blink.gif


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i clean it twice a day which is nite after my girl finish her meals n next morning's poo~ thumbup.gif
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neuter your male...
i use the cage cleaner spray to wipe like once to twice in 2 weeks...other than that i just clean the tray everyday
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hye everyone, i bru je adopt pair of sugar glider n i totally new in suggies world. Hope can learn more bout it. Btw my female one names mika the male names lulu n all of them adopted on 2nd august 2010 smile.gif
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hi guys. I would appreciate if anyone can direct me to dr yeoh's clinic if from shah alam's federal highway icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
My babies need to go for a normal checkup and dewormed.....PLEASE...PLEASE
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Hi, to update ppl on vets, I've heard that there is a Dr. Prem at Hands n Paws willing to treat exotics. She's a jr vet but vets willing to learn and treat exotics are very hard to come by.

So, everyone do appreciate exotics vets as there arent many.

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Hi guys......I just bought a digital scale and my mom and I just weighing our babies. Peanut is 142 grams..Mia with twins (the size of 5 cents each in the pouch ) 92 grams..Apple is 73 grams..Gizmo 52 grams...our new babies Bell 35 grams and Bella 37 grams and also Kiwi 38 grams. We think that Kiwi is having problem cause her tail is not fluffy even though she have great appetite (maybe worm) and I was thinking to bring them 3 for check up (Kiwi/Bell/Bella). Maybe I will try to see Dr. Prem cause the clinic is quite near from my place (driving to PJ) and YES we have a new addition in our sugies family TWILEENA..she's about 2.5 years and weigh 87 grams. She was given to my mom since her twins/mate Damian got lost on 25/07/10...my friend ( a member of this thread) and could not bear to loose another one, so...he ask my mom to take care for him. My mom is quite keen on exotic animals herself.


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thx reanne for the info! =D

I'm so happy! Gliderslurp is really good! my baby loves it! her fur is getting thicker n kelabu! =D no more yellow fur!
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Hi, to update ppl on vets, I've heard that there is a Dr. Prem at Hands n Paws willing to treat exotics. She's a jr vet but vets willing to learn and treat exotics are very hard to come by.

So, everyone do appreciate exotics vets as there arent many.
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this is great..yea we need more dr who is willing to learn
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My gliders of 6 all on HPW diet for 2 years now.. =) All doing extremely well.. I dont see any problem with introducing HPW to them.. All diet must be fed balanced with the appropriate ratio of fruits & veges, plus suitable supplements & treats.. Not to mention regular vet visits..

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Added on August 9, 2010, 3:22 pmThanks to the PET LOVERs who bring in these products from oversea!! Good job!! I only support those who r using these products for their own gliders, rather than to earn a profit by copying what others selling on the market, worst case, doesn't even have gliders as their own precious pets..

Cheers

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Hello everyone....We need someone's advise regarding sugar glider's weight. Ever since we bought the digital scale we have been monitoring and recording their weight. Our Peanut's weight increases by 6 grams (142grams -> 148grams) Twileena's 5 grams (87grams -> 92 grams). Mia's weight increase by 3 grams ONLY (92 grams -> 95 grams). Apple and Gizmo their weight are the same as before. As for the growing joeys increases by 3 - 5 grams within 4 days.

My first question is ....
1. Is Peanut overweight...he is very hyper active little guy.. and we do provided them.... each cages with wodent wheels, cage accessories and toys except for the 4 feet cage which we installed 2 wodent wheels in it for them.

2nd question.......
Ever since Mia's pregnant , we only use suggie hammock instead of the sleeping pouch for them to sleep in and her nails always got caught tangled in it. I'm afraid to clipped her nails due to her pregnancy n lactation and we don't want her to be stressed out. Any suggestions on how or there's a way to clipped her nails without stressing her...??? icon_question.gif

3rd. question.......
Is it true that we have to provide a large hammock in the middle of the cage ( 3' cage) to prevent joeys from falling and no wodent wheel during the pregnancy....If there is no wheel, how does the male does his exercise activities..??!! blink.gif blink.gif

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QUOTE(allenna @ Aug 10 2010, 07:25 PM)
Hello everyone....We need someone's advise regarding sugar glider's weight. Ever since we bought the digital scale we have been monitoring and recording their weight. Our Peanut's weight increases by 6 grams (142grams -> 148grams) Twileena's 5 grams (87grams -> 92 grams). Mia's weight increase by 3 grams ONLY (92 grams -> 95 grams).  Apple and Gizmo their weight are the same as before. As for the growing joeys increases by 3 - 5 grams within 4 days.

My first question is ....
1.    Is Peanut overweight...he is very hyper active little guy.. and we do provided them.... each cages with wodent wheels, cage accessories and toys except for the 4 feet cage which we installed 2 wodent wheels in it for them.

2nd question.......
        Ever since Mia's pregnant , we only use suggie hammock instead of the sleeping pouch for them to sleep in and her nails always got caught tangled in it. I'm afraid to clipped her nails due to her pregnancy n lactation and we don't want her to be stressed out. Any suggestions on how or there's a way to clipped her nails without stressing her...??? icon_question.gif

3rd. question.......
        Is it true that we have to provide a large hammock in the middle of the cage ( 3' cage) to prevent joeys from falling and no wodent wheel during the pregnancy....If there is no wheel, how does the male does his exercise  activities..??!!  blink.gif  blink.gif

TQ.

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Question 1 - If he is still active and play jump glide around, then it shouldn't be obesity. I ever seen an obesed glider before, he is fat until i cant really know whether it's glider or not, and he sit there all day long eating kuaci..don even wan to move a little... However, 148g and still increasing.. u better monitor closely on the weight, if increase again the u might need to cut down a little bit of the protein given to them.. When they grow elder, the amount of protein needed should be reduce too actually..

Question 2 - You can still clip the nail actually if the glider is very familiar with you.. smile.gif Do it more gently...

Question 3- We always suggest owner to do whatever precaution steps to eliminate the possibility of accident happening... Better safe than sorry.. A large hammock is good, esp when the joey is OOP already..as sometime although they cling on mothers back, but they may jus fall off when the mom jump suddenly..

From what I discussed with Dr Jenny last time, she advised that we removed the wheel when the joey is OOP.. during in pouch period, you can still let them enjoy playing the wheel.. smile.gif
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Guys,im a college student n im lyk super bored to jz sit around in my room lookin at the wall.i love gliders(my frend beside my room has one---).so im looking for a pet sugar glider,does anyone wants to sell one(pls sell it cheap).wil be delighted if it comes with the whole pouch+cage+other stuff ol.pls pm me ur best price.near KL area.(COD)
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Hi guys..
i had problem wit my glider..
B4 dis,her hair loss r getting worse until i can c her pinky abdomen, tiny tails n both hind legs.. sad.gif

I already brought her to meet Dr Yeoh n amazingly Dr Yeoh said there is no mites on her skin even parasites or anything else..
But he said dat my suggie r depressed n need frenz..
She had mulnutrition problem when my cousin give her to me 3 months ago.Her weight only about 8-10 gm n the seller said she was already 3 month.i think the seller r commercial breeder..doesnt know much about SG

Now her weight is 36.8gm with 6 month old..
But im also being so stress to c she doesnt want to finish her food..she only eat half the suggieslurp n not eat the fruits at all.. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
B4 dis she very like the mealworms n due to some problem,i had changed it to superworm n sadly,she juz smell it even i already pinch the head off n make it look so juicy...huhu............
Im so worried to get frenz for her..worry if the male glider will breed with her even she doesnt want it..it will make her become more stress rite?

Plez.....help....im so worried.....feels like im a bad owner..do know how to make my suggie healthy.. cry.gif rclxub.gif mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(Arawin92 @ Aug 10 2010, 08:39 PM)
Guys,im a college student n im lyk super bored to jz sit around in my room lookin at the wall.i love gliders(my frend beside my room has one---).so im looking for a pet sugar glider,does anyone wants to sell one(pls sell it cheap).wil be delighted if it comes with the whole pouch+cage+other stuff ol.pls pm me ur best price.near KL area.(COD)
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Erm. perhaps you can look around in Pets Store section, not here. smile.gif

Keeping glider isn't cheap hobby, it can cost u a bomb especially for the first time cost (i assume you are getting the correct size of cage, diet, supplements and etc)..

So, think twice..

QUOTE(Fieqra @ Aug 10 2010, 09:20 PM)
Hi guys..
i had problem wit my glider..
B4 dis,her hair loss r getting worse until i can c her pinky abdomen, tiny tails n both hind legs.. sad.gif

I already brought her to meet Dr Yeoh n amazingly Dr Yeoh said there is no mites on her skin even parasites or anything else..
But he said dat my suggie r depressed n need frenz..
She had mulnutrition problem when my cousin give her to me 3 months ago.Her weight only about 8-10 gm n the seller said she was already 3 month.i think the seller r commercial breeder..doesnt know much about SG

Now her weight is 36.8gm with 6 month old..
But im also being so stress to c she doesnt want to finish her food..she only eat half the suggieslurp n not eat the fruits at all.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
B4 dis she very like the mealworms n due to some problem,i had changed it to superworm n sadly,she juz smell it even i already pinch the head off n make it look so juicy...huhu............
Im so worried to get frenz for her..worry if the male glider will breed with her even she doesnt want it..it will make her become more stress rite?

Plez.....help....im so worried.....feels like im a bad owner..do know how to make my suggie healthy.. cry.gif  rclxub.gif  mega_shok.gif
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36.8gm for 6months is really underweight... Why don't you give Wombaroo Milk Replacer a try? It's easier to digest for those underaged glider or malnutrition glider.. You will need to syringe feed the glider every 2-3 hours, because her stomach is not fully develop yet, she cant finish the food at a time as how other normal glider does..

Dont really think you should breed this glider, now and future as well, because of her maldevelopment at young age, pregnancy and nursing period will jus bring more harm to the baby and herself...

You can get a female companion for her, but i think now is not the right time.. You should adjust her weight back to normal and make sure she is getting healthier first.. Otherwise, the introduction process of new glider might distress her more...

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Thank you Eric138 for your fast reply.

Peanut shared Mia's HPW added with some milk replacer which was recommended by an experience breeder since at that time the Wombaroo Possum Milk Replacer was out of stock. My daughter bought two packets from a PET LOVERs Shop for emergency....just in case the mother glider rejects her joeys.

She did made HPW with the combination of 2 packets of High Protein Supplement + 1 packet of Bee Pollen mixed with Sweet Meadow Manuka Honey and 3 eggs....( we used good grades eggs with omega) which was to be shared with the young joeys and the mixture was finished early before my daughter's next visit home.

I did tried to call her on her handphone but couldn't reached her and so....I made the HPW by myself with the combination of 1 packet of High Protein Supplement (which was wrong measurement - I should have used 2 packets instead of 1 packet) + 1 packet of Bee Pollen mixed with Sweet Meadow Manuka Honey and 3 eggs AND since Mia was doing fine lactating her joeys and the milk replacer was about to expire next year...WELL, I thought I should used before it expired and added it into the HPW (since I have read an article in the internet that we can mix it with HPW for lactating mother gliders).

Other than the HPW, I also gave them various types of fruits, green veggies, plus suitable supplements & treats. Live crickets, mealworms and superworms AND even from canned once a while for them.
Fresh drinking water everyday (treated water only) and even freshly squeezed fruit juice for them even for myself also.....

Keeping them as pet have changed my life style.... buying a lot of fruits and vegetables to be kept in the fridge all the time (instead of junk or fast food normally) and eating healthy.

p/s for the 4 feet cage we also provided them cage accessories, toys and also real jungle vines for them to climb up and down the cage., other than 2 wodent wheels.

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QUOTE(Fieqra @ Aug 10 2010, 09:20 PM)
Hi guys..
i had problem wit my glider..
B4 dis,her hair loss r getting worse until i can c her pinky abdomen, tiny tails n both hind legs.. sad.gif

I already brought her to meet Dr Yeoh n amazingly Dr Yeoh said there is no mites on her skin even parasites or anything else..
But he said dat my suggie r depressed n need frenz..
She had mulnutrition problem when my cousin give her to me 3 months ago.Her weight only about 8-10 gm n the seller said she was already 3 month.i think the seller r commercial breeder..doesnt know much about SG

Now her weight is 36.8gm with 6 month old..
But im also being so stress to c she doesnt want to finish her food..she only eat half the suggieslurp n not eat the fruits at all.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
B4 dis she very like the mealworms n due to some problem,i had changed it to superworm n sadly,she juz smell it even i already pinch the head off n make it look so juicy...huhu............
Im so worried to get frenz for her..worry if the male glider will breed with her even she doesnt want it..it will make her become more stress rite?

Plez.....help....im so worried.....feels like im a bad owner..do know how to make my suggie healthy.. cry.gif  rclxub.gif  mega_shok.gif
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yes it is good to get a companion for your glider other than human contact coz human cant give 100% attention to them since they are nocturnal animals...

how much are u feeding her..u could try giving her vitamin which contain lysine which help improve her appetite...u could try feeding twice a day like fruits at night and then u can feed slurp early in the morning when the glider is still awake ...or the other way around... ...are u using gliderslurp? or u make your own recipe?

meal worms can be easily get but must feed in controlled amount coz it's high in fat and low in calcium:phosphorus ratio...u can try those small carnivore food too..can give boild/poach/microwave eggs...boild chichken breast meat...
36.8 gram is realy realy under weight..

incresing the food amount must be done gradually...maybe u can try different flavour of slurp..try offering sweet fruits and vegy like water melon/honey dew/apples/carrots of your gliders fav fruit maybe???can dribble with some honey to make her eat more...

u can offer her some yogurt as treats..human yogurt is fine as long as it's low fat..yogurt has good abiotics in yogurt which is goot for their stomach...

getting a companion doesnt mean u have to get a male to accompany a female...u can get another female to acompany her...or u can get neutered male...since your glider is stressed out u dont want to stress her even more with a mate to breed...later unwanted pregnancy then rejected joey and so on...mean while try spending more time with her like carrying her in bonding pouch during the day time...

hope it all goes well for u..and hope the tips are useful
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QUOTE(Arawin92 @ Aug 10 2010, 08:39 PM)
Guys,im a college student n im lyk super bored to jz sit around in my room lookin at the wall.i love gliders(my frend beside my room has one---).so im looking for a pet sugar glider,does anyone wants to sell one(pls sell it cheap).wil be delighted if it comes with the whole pouch+cage+other stuff ol.pls pm me ur best price.near KL area.(COD)
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listen to the sifus here... and please make your research thoroughly...
since your fren next door also have sugar glider... i assume you have the basic idea on how to take care of sugar gliders... even dat, u should make more research coz they might be things dat u didnt realize bout taking care of sugar gliders...
if u decided to buy the sugar glider already... please buy from the experienced home breeder... i think the sifus here can recommend a few names... dont buy from those who just want profit and selling it cheap...
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QUOTE(Arawin92 @ Aug 10 2010, 08:39 PM)
Guys,im a college student n im lyk super bored to jz sit around in my room lookin at the wall.i love gliders(my frend beside my room has one---).so im looking for a pet sugar glider,does anyone wants to sell one(pls sell it cheap).wil be delighted if it comes with the whole pouch+cage+other stuff ol.pls pm me ur best price.near KL area.(COD)
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hi, hope you can reconsider your plan. cause i don't want to see ur glider is abandon cause you have a lots of assignments, class, lab or activities to attend. having a glider as a pet is not cheap, please do extensive research on them and they don't only eat apple or pear for living. me myself suffer a bit when first got my baby icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tednet @ Aug 11 2010, 10:33 AM)
hi, hope you can reconsider your plan. cause i don't want to see ur glider is abandon cause you have a lots of assignments, class, lab or activities to attend. having a glider as a pet is not cheap, please do extensive research on them and they don't only eat apple or pear for living. me myself suffer a bit when first got my baby icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Eh eh... i can sense stereotyping in your post.. tongue.gif Not all students will abandon their gliders eventually..hahaha...
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Heya SG Sifus.... I was wondering and a little concern. I've bonded with my girl suggie and now I'm thinking is ok that she is all alone in her big cage while I'm at work everyday. You see I get home around 8pm everyday and I'll play with her till maybe 10pm++...then I'm off to bed or to do my stuff.... should i get her a friend ? I dont want her to be lonely.
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QUOTE(echosmiles @ Aug 11 2010, 12:52 PM)
Heya SG Sifus.... I was wondering and a little concern. I've bonded with my girl suggie and now I'm thinking is ok that she is all alone in her big cage while I'm at work everyday. You see I get home around 8pm everyday and I'll play with her till maybe 10pm++...then I'm off to bed or to do my stuff.... should i get her a friend ? I dont want her to be lonely.
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Erm... There is no answer for this question actually.. There are people who keep single glider for years, and nothing happen.. But there are people who prefer to keep them in pair/group because they are social animal in nature...

I am more on the later group of people, prefer to keep them in pair or get them at least one companion. Keeping single glider esp male glider will lead to higher risk of self mutilation due to loneliness problem because of the hormon secretion and all.. Although yours is a female glider, but getting her a companion actually bring more pro than cons.. We are human, they are glider, no matter how much time and effort we gave them, the bonding between owner glider and between gliders themselves are totally different. For example: we are not nocturnal, it's almost impossible for us to accompany them for whole night when they are active... We cant sleep with them, cuddle with them in a sleeping pouch... we don speak glider language, we cant communicate with them using hissing/crabbing/barking/chattering.. we cant stand on the food bowl and eat together with tthe gliders.. we cant glide and run over the wheel like gliders too...

You see, there are so much thing that we cant do and share with the gliders... And imagine, it must be really fun to have another glider to share the happy moment with ur glider in the cage...

However, my advice for you to get a companion does not mean u must get an opposite sex glider or u must get it asap... Again, i must stress again on the complexity of glider breeding, you only go into breeding when you are mentally/physically/financially/ whatever-lly ready...

If you are not into breeding, then getting a female glider as her companion would be great as you wont have odour/bald spot/marking problem in the future with male glider. Don rush in getting a glider though, look around, research and find a good breeder.. Make sure you get a healthy and fully weaned glider from a reputable breeder...

And before that, make sure u study bout the ways to proper introduce the gliders too yea.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 11 2010, 12:05 PM)
Eh eh... i can sense stereotyping in your post.. tongue.gif Not all students will abandon their gliders eventually..hahaha...
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Aug 11 2010, 01:50 AM)
yes it is good to get a companion for your glider other than human contact coz human cant give 100% attention to them since they are nocturnal animals...

how much are u feeding her..u could try giving her vitamin which contain lysine which help improve her appetite...u could try feeding twice a day like fruits at night and then u can feed slurp early in the morning when the glider is still awake ...or the other way around...  ...are u using gliderslurp? or u make your own recipe?

meal worms can be easily get but must feed in controlled amount coz it's high in fat and low in calcium:phosphorus ratio...u can try those small carnivore food too..can give boild/poach/microwave eggs...boild chichken breast meat...
36.8 gram is realy realy under weight..

incresing the food amount must be done gradually...maybe u can try different flavour of slurp..try offering sweet fruits and vegy like water melon/honey dew/apples/carrots of your gliders fav fruit maybe???can dribble with some honey to make her eat more...

u can offer her some yogurt as treats..human yogurt is fine as long as it's low fat..yogurt has good abiotics in yogurt which is goot for their stomach...

getting a companion doesnt mean u have to get a male to accompany a female...u can get another female to acompany her...or u can get neutered male...since your glider is stressed out u dont want to stress her even more with a mate to breed...later unwanted pregnancy then rejected joey and so on...mean while try spending more time with her like carrying her in bonding pouch during the day time...

hope it all goes well for u..and hope the tips are useful
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Thanks Yueyi for your advise...appreciate it a lot.....
When i brought her to Dr Yeoh,he already give me some vitamins dat will improve her appetite...mybe i will try to change her suggieslurp's flavour..
r we need to blend the boild chicken n the eggs??or need to add some honey or something?

I'll try to give her human yogurt as your suggest but i already give her 1-2 yogurt drops everyday..is it ok to give it with other human yogurt?
Anyway...tq again for your advise..u make me feel better... smile.gif


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Erm. perhaps you can look around in Pets Store section, not here. smile.gif

Keeping glider isn't cheap hobby, it can cost u a bomb especially for the first time cost (i assume you are getting the correct size of cage, diet, supplements and etc)..

So, think twice..
36.8gm for 6months is really underweight... Why don't you give Wombaroo Milk Replacer a try? It's easier to digest for those underaged glider or malnutrition glider.. You will need to syringe feed the glider every 2-3 hours, because her stomach is not fully develop yet, she cant finish the food at a time as how other normal glider does..

Dont really think you should breed this glider, now and future as well, because of her maldevelopment at young age, pregnancy and nursing period will jus bring more harm to the baby and herself...

You can get a female companion for her, but i think now is not the right time.. You should adjust her weight back to normal and make sure she is getting healthier first.. Otherwise, the introduction process of new glider might distress her more...

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Thanks Eric...
B4 dis,she can finished at least her suggieslurp n a bit of her premium diet..but suddenly now it getting worse..mybe im not spend much time with her..juz for 1-2 hours everyday...
Erm..can i give that Wombaroo Milk Replacer even she already can eat solid food?can i put the milk inside her slurp or still need to sringe feed her?

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Hi Fieqra

I know how you must feel for your pet glider. Try to do one at a time with your glider like you are doing an experiment or research with it. You must be patience....AND.... have to put a lot of effort while you are doing it....do a lot of serving or create your own recipe to get the right ones or two or maybe more for your pet. For example - rice.....you can make porridge, fried rice, ketupat and other more from just 1 thing.....same thing with glider's food.

For example....you can try sprinkle a little bit of Wombaroo Milk Replacer in her suggieslurp and watch and see if she likes or finished it..AND if she does, increase the amount little by little for the next days......After that and since she can eat by herself, make it into 2 portion (separate) .....1 suggieslurp (you can sprinkle WMR a little bit in it) and another 1 by itself, the Milk Replacer (make it in small amount first) and watch her weather she finish it or not. And if she doesn't like it, you can change to other flavour or change it to HPW.... either way......it's alright...and TRY do as the above.....!

Try many times to create new recipes for her appetite and her taste...just like we humans.....we like to have different taste and create new recipes in our food same goes with this incredible little creatures cause gliders have this very awkward in tasting...ESPECIALLY.... regarding with their taste in their food.

These are the things that I do with all my gliders...AND....HPW is their main staple food everyday... other than fruits and veggies...suitable supplements & treats....AND also regular visit to the vets.

Firstly.... try to focus on her appetite and health and once she's back in shape ...MAYBE...you can find a female companion OR a neutered male for her if you are not intend to breed her, yourself..!

I hope these tips will be helpful and hope to hear from you about your glider..!! biggrin.gif
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Hi all Sifoos and SG lover,

Im very new in SG world... been flowing the thread for some time, and just got a pair of SG 4 days back.. yet to name them....smile.gif... according to the breeder they are about 10 weeks old....

Been trying to bond with them and the female seems to adopt well, male took some time before adopting but he still Carb's alot everytime try to approach him...

Been feeding them with watermelon and apple for the past few days... planing to get mango and few other fruits later in the evening. Should i introduce HPW or Gliderslurp to them now? If yes where can i obtain them? can any1 PM me where can get them please.

Thinking of feeding them with mealworm during this weekend? Is it recommended to feed them?

Just wondering for the past 2 days every time play with the girl she will pee on me .... is this a common or normal habit? She seems to be fine with me and run and climbs over me etc... open the cage door and put my hands she will jump over and start climbing on me. Is she bonding well with me?also been hand feeding her and she eats on my palm and like to nibble my fingers..

The boy alwayz takes time before climbing over the my hand... and he will be crabbing alot before settling down and climbing over my hand...he spends most of the time sleeping while the girl is active...

Need some advise from the sifoo's here whats sort of diet should i put them on... talking abt yogurt its okay to feed them human yogurt with fruits in it? your advise is highly appreciated.

Sorry for asking all the NOOB questions...
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QUOTE(shakz7 @ Aug 12 2010, 01:12 PM)
Hi all Sifoos and SG lover,

Im very new in SG world... been flowing the thread for some time, and just got a pair of SG 4 days back.. yet to name them....smile.gif... according to the breeder they are about 10 weeks old....

Been trying to bond with them and the female seems to adopt well, male took some time before adopting but he still  Carb's alot everytime try to approach him...

Been feeding them with watermelon and apple for the past few days... planing to get mango and few other fruits later in the evening. Should i introduce HPW or Gliderslurp to them now? If yes where can i obtain them? can any1 PM me where can get them please.

Thinking of feeding them with mealworm during this weekend? Is it recommended to feed them?

Just wondering for the past 2 days every time play with the girl she will pee on me .... is this a common or normal habit? She seems to be fine with me and run and climbs over me etc... open the cage door and put my hands she will jump over and start climbing on me. Is she bonding well with me?also been hand feeding her and she eats on my palm and like to nibble my fingers..

The boy alwayz takes time before climbing over the my hand... and he will be crabbing alot before settling down and climbing over my hand...he  spends most of the time sleeping while the girl is active...

Need some advise from the sifoo's here whats sort of diet should i put them on... talking abt yogurt its okay to feed them human yogurt with fruits in it? your advise is highly appreciated.

Sorry for asking all the NOOB questions...
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Halo and welcome to join us!
i am not a pro but i will tell wad i noe bout gliders biggrin.gif

crabbing is normal for the first few weeks as they are still not familiar with u yet but after sometime u will find the crabbing lesser and lesser as u try to take them out of the pouch...daily supply of fresh fruits is always the best.. try refer the 1st page or HERE for the information bout nutrition. It takes some time to understand bout their diet though, so be patient and never give up...As whether HPW or GliderSLURP is up to the owner

u can find HPW Diet recipe HERE
As for GLiderSLURP u can get it from crazymouse_yyh

mealworm, superworm, dubia roaches or cricket are the insects dat u can feed them with, as for me i feed my gliders with mealworm or superworm...but do bare in mind about the calcium_phosphorous_ratios is 2:1

good progress u hv there, he is curious about u but at the same time he is still not familiar with u LoL...at least they still climb to ur hand biggrin.gif
u can feed them human yogurt of course but a low fat one...

Oh for the pee and poop part yea...gliders hv no bowel control, they will pee and poop wherever they want to anywhr anytime they wan..so jz monitor ur glider and as u get more familiar with them they u will noe when they nid to do their business brows.gif hv a great time with ur glider icon_rolleyes.gif

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Halo and welcome to join us!
i am not a pro but i will tell wad i noe bout gliders  biggrin.gif

crabbing is normal for the first few weeks as they are still not familiar with u yet but after sometime u will find the crabbing lesser and lesser as u try to take them out of the pouch...daily supply of fresh fruits is always the best.. try refer the 1st page or HERE for the information bout nutrition. It takes some time to understand bout their diet though, so be patient and never give up...As whether HPW or GliderSLURP is up to the owner

u can find HPW Diet recipe HERE
As for GLiderSLURP u can get it from crazymouse_yyh

mealworm, superworm, dubia roaches or cricket are the insects dat u can feed them with, as for me i feed my gliders with mealworm or superworm...but do bare in mind about the calcium_phosphorous_ratios is 2:1

good progress u hv there, he is curious about u but at the same time he is still not familiar with u LoL...at least they still climb to ur hand  biggrin.gif
u can feed them human yogurt of course but a low fat one...

Oh for the pee and poop part yea...gliders hv no bowel control, they will pee and poop wherever they want to anywhr anytime they wan..so jz monitor ur glider and as u get more familiar with them they u will noe when they nid to do their business  brows.gif  hv a great time with ur glider  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Piggyzai - Thanx for the warm welcome and the reply .... looking forward to learn more from you guys here... its really exciting to be with SG,

They just tend to sleep most of the time and when im back in the evening or night have to wake them up and then only manage to play with them... even from 3 am to 7 am they are alwayz sleeping... trying to learn more on their behaviors...

Is it okay to leave them sleep in the coconut shell all the time? yet to get a sleeping pouch there is a coconut shell hanging and then tend to sleep in it all the time? read somewhere the fur might turn brown if they sleep in it all the time... is it true?
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Yes, keeping gliders in coconut shell for long time will stain their fur.. and they will become more shell protective too. Please, get a sleeping pouch and change asap..

Since it's 10weeks old which i assume they are fully weaned, you should decide asap on the diet and start feeding already..

They need protein daily, and fruits doesnt provide them sufficient protein tht they need..

I'm using Bugsy HPW diet for quite some time, and the result is really good smile.gif. Strongly recommend, and it's much easier to get since alot petshops are selling too.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shakz7 @ Aug 12 2010, 02:49 PM)
Piggyzai - Thanx for the warm welcome and the reply .... looking forward to learn more from you guys here... its really exciting to be with SG,

They just tend to sleep most of the time and when im back in the evening or night have to wake them up and then only manage to play with them... even from 3 am to 7 am they are alwayz sleeping... trying to learn more on their behaviors...

Is it okay to leave them sleep in the coconut shell all the time? yet to get a sleeping pouch there is a coconut shell hanging and then tend to sleep in it all the time? read somewhere the fur might turn brown if they sleep in it all the time... is it true?
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they r still young...probably haven't adjusted to their biological time yet...
and also, if the light is on, they will usually hide i their pouch rather than coming out to play..
so probably u wanna switch off the light while playing with them
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QUOTE(shakz7 @ Aug 12 2010, 02:49 PM)
Piggyzai - Thanx for the warm welcome and the reply .... looking forward to learn more from you guys here... its really exciting to be with SG,

They just tend to sleep most of the time and when im back in the evening or night have to wake them up and then only manage to play with them... even from 3 am to 7 am they are alwayz sleeping... trying to learn more on their behaviors...

Is it okay to leave them sleep in the coconut shell all the time? yet to get a sleeping pouch there is a coconut shell hanging and then tend to sleep in it all the time? read somewhere the fur might turn brown if they sleep in it all the time... is it true?
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Aug 12 2010, 09:03 PM)
they r still young...probably haven't adjusted to their biological time yet...
and also, if the light is on, they will usually hide i their pouch rather than coming out to play..
so probably u wanna switch off the light while playing with them
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jitshiong is rite... as for me... our momo will active when there is little light or no light at all... if the light is on, he wont climb on my hand and always run to his sleeping pouch...
last time it didnt even come out when there is little light visible... then i turn on the table lamp through out the night to get him familiar with the light...

our momo now already climb onto my hand and shirts... but then he always tries to glide back to his cage... once outside his cage, he stays alert and tries to avoid me...
its behavior different from when he inside the cage...
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issit ok for my glider to have her few sips of bird nest home made by my mom?? XD
my lil girl seems to like it~
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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Aug 13 2010, 08:59 AM)
issit ok for my glider to have her few sips of bird nest home made by my mom??  XD
my lil girl seems to like it~
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added sugar?
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 12 2010, 06:37 PM)
Yes, keeping gliders in coconut shell for long time will stain their fur.. and they will become more shell protective too. Please, get a sleeping pouch and change asap..

Since it's 10weeks old which i assume they are fully weaned, you should decide asap on the diet and start feeding already..

They need protein daily, and fruits doesnt provide them sufficient protein tht they need..

I'm using Bugsy HPW diet for quite some time, and the result is really good smile.gif. Strongly recommend, and it's much easier to get since alot petshops are selling too.. smile.gif
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Eric thanx for the suggestion mate..u got PM icon_question.gif

QUOTE(jitshiong @ Aug 12 2010, 09:03 PM)
they r still young...probably haven't adjusted to their biological time yet...
and also, if the light is on, they will usually hide i their pouch rather than coming out to play..
so probably u wanna switch off the light while playing with them
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Last night i was playing with them... with the lights on and they were hyper active... climbing jumping all over me etc.... but the male as usual took some time to come out.... the funny part was once they are out its really hard to get them back into the cage.... they resist to get in back to the cage.

Feed them with low fat human yogurt.... boy seems to like it and girl just had a few lick and never came back tongue.gif ... will try to introduce to them again to nite.

Guys can i feed them with mealworm?thinking of feeding them meal worm this weekend, u guys think it will be okay?

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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 13 2010, 11:36 AM)
added sugar?
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guys,

since its Ramadhan month, and we can get a lot of dates (kurma), can we give it to our suggie? just curious
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jus few small cubes of brown sugar~ sad.gif
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then better don..

QUOTE(tednet @ Aug 13 2010, 09:45 PM)
guys,

since its Ramadhan month, and we can get a lot of dates (kurma), can we give it to our suggie? just curious
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wat is kurma?
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The kurma, the DATES is best avoided, unless u can guarantee it is 100% natural and free of sugar or honey.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 14 2010, 12:07 AM)
then better don..
wat is kurma?
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kurma or dates, even Chinese use it in their cooking, some sort of fruit usually from the middle east.


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The kurma, the DATES is best avoided, unless u can guarantee it is 100% natural and free of sugar or honey.. smile.gif
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i cant guarantee is 100% free from sugar, but it is unprocessed dates, still got their branches and tastes not sweet at all. this morning when i was sahur, she look at me with a kesian face, so give it a bit, a very small pieces. she kind of love it lar... best not to give it everyday right?

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If you arent certain whether the fruits/vege is safe or not, then better don feed then... They won't die without tasting the particular food.. You would not want to take the risk..
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QUOTE(tednet @ Aug 13 2010, 09:45 PM)
guys,

since its Ramadhan month, and we can get a lot of dates (kurma), can we give it to our suggie? just curious
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 14 2010, 11:56 AM)
If you arent certain whether the fruits/vege is safe or not, then better don feed then... They won't die without tasting the particular food.. You would not want to take the risk..
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i did some googling... and found some sites said can feed our suggied dates...

http://sites.google.com/site/oakleysglider...der-information
http://ezinearticles.com/?Sugar-Glider-Diet&id=1987947
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Then should be alright... But the phosphorus content is higher than calcium, bout 1:2 , so don feed in large amount yea..
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Aug 14 2010, 12:58 PM)
i did some googling... and found some sites said can feed our suggied dates...

http://sites.google.com/site/oakleysglider...der-information
http://ezinearticles.com/?Sugar-Glider-Diet&id=1987947
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Then should be alright... But the phosphorus content is higher than calcium, bout 1:2 , so don feed in large amount yea..
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Help, My suggie dont like to drink the vitamin water...how?
i purchase the powder and mix with water....
my suggie drink a bit only....if put normal water....he will finish it faster...
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QUOTE(piglover @ Aug 15 2010, 12:37 AM)
Help, My suggie dont like to drink the vitamin water...how?
i purchase the powder and mix with water....
my suggie drink a bit only....if put normal water....he will finish it faster...
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powder?? what kind of powder? Do not simply add supplement into water unless u pretty sure it's fine for glider to consume..
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Thx with help of some sifoos i manage to get hold of HPW Instant...

Feed my sg last nite but dont seems to like it much... will try again 2nite..smile.gif

I just realized my boy's poo is very reddish like there is blood or something in it for the past 2 days... is it because ive been feeding them with watermelon for the past 2 days? just worried kindly advise....

The girl's poo only cair but not reddish at all...

Also feed them mealworm as threat yesterday only the girl ate and boy didnt bother at all hahah...

Is there any other fruit that sg's will eat.. mine only likes watermelon and honeydew... other fruits or vege they dont wanna eat at all... today try sawi and carrot laks but still untouch...

Sifoos i need some advise on this... i will try again as i read before it might take some time for SG to adopt to new foods...

But main worries is my boy sick? reddish and waterry poo...
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SG Lover,

Thx with help of some sifoos i manage to get hold of HPW Instant...

Feed my sg last nite but dont seems to like it much... will try again 2nite..smile.gif

I just realized my boy's poo is very reddish like there is blood or something in it for the past 2 days... is it because ive been feeding them with watermelon for the past 2 days? just worried kindly advise....

The girl's poo only cair but not reddish at all...

Also feed them mealworm as threat yesterday only the girl ate and boy didnt bother at all hahah...

Is there any other fruit that sg's will eat.. mine only likes watermelon and honeydew... other fruits or vege they dont wanna eat at all... today try sawi and carrot laks but still untouch...

Sifoos i need some advise on this... i will try again as i read before it might take some time for SG to adopt to new foods...

But main worries is my boy sick? reddish and waterry poo...
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most probably it''s the watermelon..try stop giving water melon for 2-3 days to see if the colour is normal back..too much water melon is not good should control it as well..
your sg poo cair most probably coz of the chnage in diet to hpw...from what i read in this forum it's like that the first few days then will produce normal poo..so u just watch her la.

mealworms u can try cutting of the head and squeeze out the juice to your boys mouth to let him get use to the taste eventually he will eat it.

i normally give around 3-5 combinations or vegy and fruits not just plain vegy or fruits...so they get a mixture...
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Me normally feed them papaya+apple+mango+pear+celery+capsicum(red n yellow only)n choysam.Bt evryday hve to rotate the vege n fruits oso.HPW is a must lor. notworthy.gif
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how high kadar metabolism for each suggie?
coz mine, kadang2 she nampak gemok, kadang2 slim sikit. risau. . =(

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Just find out few days ago my SG are actually joey's whom are only 4 weeks+.... now im very worried + vmad.gif at the breeder for telling me its alreadt 10 weeks ++... vmad.gif

No matter what i still have to accept the fact its my fault tho never check thru before purchasing.... doh.gif , im just hopping they will grow up healthy in my care... really need advise from all the sifoos here notworthy.gif ...

They girl as usual eat's anything.. the boy is kind of week and selective eater... and they sleep most of the time.. even for meal have to wake them up and feed them by placing the HPW / Slurp at my finger then only the lick and eat.

Is there any other way can make them eat... been having them for 1 week now and still dont see them eat much...
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QUOTE(shakz7 @ Aug 17 2010, 11:57 AM)
Just find out few days ago my SG are actually joey's whom are only 4 weeks+.... now im very worried +  vmad.gif  at the breeder for telling me its alreadt 10 weeks ++... vmad.gif

No matter what i still have to accept the fact its my fault tho never check thru before purchasing.... doh.gif , im just hopping they will grow up healthy in my care... really need advise from all the sifoos here  notworthy.gif ...

They girl as usual eat's anything.. the boy is kind of week and selective eater... and they sleep most of the time.. even for meal have to wake them up and feed them by placing the HPW / Slurp at my finger then only the lick and eat.

Is there any other way can make them eat... been having them for 1 week now and still dont see them eat  much...
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Make sure you are feeding only ONE diet, either HPW or slurp. Do not mix feeding or rotate feeding different diet.

I would strongly recommend you get a packet of Bugsy Wombaroo Milk Replacer from petshack, it's very good and higher digestability for underaged gldier or rejected joey.

If you wan, you can syringe feed the milk every 2-3hours.. smile.gif

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can they eat rambutan?
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QUOTE(shakz7 @ Aug 17 2010, 11:57 AM)
Just find out few days ago my SG are actually joey's whom are only 4 weeks+.... now im very worried +  vmad.gif  at the breeder for telling me its alreadt 10 weeks ++... vmad.gif

No matter what i still have to accept the fact its my fault tho never check thru before purchasing.... doh.gif , im just hopping they will grow up healthy in my care... really need advise from all the sifoos here  notworthy.gif ...

They girl as usual eat's anything.. the boy is kind of week and selective eater... and they sleep most of the time.. even for meal have to wake them up and feed them by placing the HPW / Slurp at my finger then only the lick and eat.

Is there any other way can make them eat... been having them for 1 week now and still dont see them eat  much...
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bro, how do u know ur joey is only 4 weeks, u compare the joey day picture chart is it?
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QUOTE(hclai @ Aug 17 2010, 01:58 PM)
bro, how do u know ur joey is only 4 weeks, u compare the joey day picture chart is it?
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No bro... i bought them to one of the SG sifoo's from the forum.... the very first glimpse and touch already say its 4weeks+

Eric,

Thats the worrying part to syringe feed them every 2 - 3 hours... im travelling alot during working hours and worried if carry them around all the time will cause more stress to them... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(shakz7 @ Aug 17 2010, 02:07 PM)
No bro... i bought them to one of the SG sifoo's from the forum.... the very first glimpse and touch already say its 4weeks+

Eric,

Thats the worrying part to syringe feed them every 2 - 3 hours... im travelling alot during working hours and worried if carry them around all the time will cause more stress to them... rclxub.gif
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Is the glider ok with you? I mean is the glider feeling comfortable with u? Most of the underaged glider adapt to new owner pretty fast, as they will take the owner as their mom..

If the glider is feeling comfortable with you, i think carrying with you during work should be alright. But make sure ur workplace is not construction site where there are alot different smells and loud voices la...
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QUOTE(shakz7 @ Aug 15 2010, 02:50 PM)
Is there any other fruit that sg's will eat.. mine only likes watermelon and honeydew... other fruits or vege they dont wanna eat at all... today try sawi and carrot laks but still untouch...
But main worries is my boy sick? reddish and waterry poo...
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Try to blend all the fruits together then serve (: Then they can't be picky biggrin.gif Hehe.
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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Aug 18 2010, 08:09 PM)
Try to blend all the fruits together then serve (: Then they can't be picky biggrin.gif Hehe.
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thumbup.gif good idea..but remember to give solid food as well so that will excercise their jaws...try giving them the apple sticks for them to chew the bark off.
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hi all, i have 2 suggies, been with me for nearly 2 years. both are not the same age. the 2 are kept in the same cage , all was good.

but recently....whenever i approach them.mantou ( younger ) will chase away and targeting on maomao's ( older ) back leg. like...attacking maomao's back leg , but not serious till draw blood. i seperated them in different cages for monitor.

in the morning, i put them back. they groomed each other , chattering....i just dont get it. what would be the cause??

maomao will snatch away mantou's snack/ worms. would it be the cause??

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helo all..i've got a prob..the bald spot on mika (male) are become bigger..what shud i do instead bringing it over to vets? icon_question.gif
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fren, i'm giving real advise...DO NOTHING!
if u know anything at all about gliders, doing nothing is the right thing to do
So how rude is my advise?
i wonder.... hmm.gif

i didn't back up my advise with explanation
but it doesn't mean i'm rude or wrong

try google bout gliders n bald spot n u will understand what i mean
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Jitshiong has been helping in this thread long enuf.

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Hii gliders fan...wanna ask, is it true Australia glider bigger than local ? Never compare one, but advert some where told so...sale expensive, but worth to buy Australia one ?

Thanks
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QUOTE(Blutangskink @ Aug 20 2010, 07:30 PM)
Hii gliders fan...wanna ask, is it true Australia glider bigger than local ? Never compare one, but advert some where told so...sale expensive, but worth to buy Australia one ?

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I think u shouldn't buy it...
cos 1st, how did they even ship gliders out from Australia?
it's illegal
2nd, most probably the fella that wanna sell is just trying to con u...
3rd, gliders can be bigger in size due to numerous reasons....
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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Aug 20 2010, 07:19 PM)
U r the one who is RUDE.

Jitshiong has been helping in this thread long enuf.

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guys...need ur help..i found this picture and need to ask all the sifu here..as u can see one of the suggie have grey nose..why is dat?is he sick or wat?bcoz this is my first time seeing this kind of sg...

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shit!
looks like some injury or rotten de....
ur glider?
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look like the nose rot already.... take out the suggie lar.. my must kept it with the rest?? later all of ur suggie will get infected also.. hais.. doh.gif doh.gif
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noooooo this is not mine...found this from fb...n u guys have heard about this seller b4
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QUOTE(me>>ieLA @ Aug 22 2010, 06:01 PM)
guys...need ur help..i found this picture and need to ask all the sifu here..as u can see one of the suggie have grey nose..why is dat?is he sick or wat?bcoz this is my first time seeing this kind of sg...

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hi wassup!


u guys remember the feller from CSR,shah alam selling underage? and some more claim his stuff cheaper than the others?
yeah? well, all that is his gliders..see the rusty cage?
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im shocked actually s i have never b4 encounter sg like dis dats y i ask..huhu sad.gif
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poor fella..

and im getting a sugar glider next week~ wee~~~ rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(loritanah @ Aug 22 2010, 06:30 PM)
hi wassup!
u guys remember the feller from CSR,shah alam selling underage? and some more claim his stuff cheaper than the others?
yeah? well, all that is his gliders..see the rusty cage?
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QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Aug 22 2010, 06:56 PM)

dont be surprise..i long time didnt drop by here lol... smile.gif
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shocking.gif what's going on here in this thread
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QUOTE(me>>ieLA @ Aug 22 2010, 06:01 PM)
guys...need ur help..i found this picture and need to ask all the sifu here..as u can see one of the suggie have grey nose..why is dat?is he sick or wat?bcoz this is my first time seeing this kind of sg...

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Hi guys.........I'm not under anybody's side what so ever just want to correct the situations about the glider ONLY....I have seen and even hold the sugar glider and the sugar glider is a female and she's actually has a black patch nose on it's face also on it's chest too and she's in healthy conditions. I have been to this fellar's place before ever since there's were a lot of commotions about him in this thread before and I brave myself to go and visit him. Well...... I have seen his place and his gliders......NO COMMENTS from me cause I am not the kind of a person who likes to tell tales OR bad mouth about someone or anyone. So don't judge me JUST because I have been to the fellar's place....... wink.gif wink.gif


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QUOTE(me>>ieLA @ Aug 22 2010, 06:28 PM)
noooooo this is not mine...found this from fb...n u guys have heard about this seller b4
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lol sori, thought its yours... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Mmm.. found nothing on google bout the black nose/patch thing.
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QUOTE(allenna @ Aug 23 2010, 05:17 AM)
Hi guys.........I'm not under anybody's side what so ever  just want to correct the situations about the glider ONLY....I have seen and even hold the sugar glider and the sugar glider is a female and she's actually has a black patch nose on it's face also on it's chest too and she's in healthy conditions. I have been to this fellar's place before ever since there's were a lot of commotions about him in this thread before and I brave myself to go and visit him. Well...... I have seen his place and his gliders......NO COMMENTS from me cause I am not the kind of a person who likes to tell tales OR  bad mouth about someone or anyone. So don't judge me JUST because I have been to the fellar's place....... wink.gif  wink.gif
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Dear,i post the picture not to condemn anybody k..my question is simple..why is the suggie is like dat..bcoz have never seen dat kind of suggie..and if u want to say i bad mouth about him or likes to tell tales then again ur wrong as i didnt even mention about his name in the first place..i said i found pic of this suggie in fb..Why not we just concentrate on answering my question which is why d suggie is like dat..as people will benefit more on the answer for future references ya.. rclxms.gif
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What I meant was........the sugar glider was born naturally looking like that......GENETICALLY different by it's colour...sometimes I found really hard to explain to people even the easiest explanation....I ONLY want to explain what I saw with my two eyes only. WELL....it's up to your own JUDGEMENTATIONS.........I have already explained the situation and have we ever wonder why they are different sizes or hair colours.....why there are big trees and small trees......look around us there's a lot of going on in our every day's life..sometimes we have the answer and sometimes we don't.....ONLY GOD KNOWS..!!!
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dont be surprise..i long time didnt drop by here lol... smile.gif
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what is wrong wif u feeding the lizard..yuck~ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(allenna @ Aug 23 2010, 11:30 AM)
What I meant was........the sugar glider was born naturally looking like that......GENETICALLY different by it's colour...sometimes I found really hard to explain to people even the easiest explanation....I ONLY want to explain what I saw with my two eyes only. WELL....it's up to your own JUDGEMENTATIONS.........I have already explained the situation and have we ever wonder why they are different sizes or hair colours.....why there are big trees and small trees......look around us there's a lot of going on in our every day's life..sometimes we have the answer and sometimes we don't.....ONLY GOD KNOWS..!!!
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Okay,will accept ur opinion on this..Sifus out there,any other opinion??

tednet>> its k ya..just want to know more on this as i have never seen this kind of GENETICALLY different sg
Jolene>> me too..i have search everywhere and never find any information about this kind of sg and am eager to find out more so that i can try to avoid anything that maybe factors towards this from happening..
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THANKS.......really appreciate on your comments. I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable....my mistake by typing the wrong words/sentences.......we can asked a veterinarian or an exotic animal doctor on this matter or any experience breeders who can explain it or anyone.......hmmmm..interesting.... never cross my mind on glider's colouration before until today....need more research on these........

To think of it.....I think my Kiwi looks different from other sugies I have come accross cause some of my friends said that she's a pure 'Black Beauty' EVEN myself having difficulty believing it even though she has really dark black fur and face even down under her chin and have dark smokey chest EXCEPT the nose........
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Malaysian gliders sold at petshop from mass produced breeders r often inbreed line. So it is hard to trace their genetics.

Actually, to confirm the blackish nose glider, why dont u all just go to the fella's place n have a look?
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QUOTE(piggyzai @ Aug 23 2010, 11:34 AM)
what is wrong wif u feeding the lizard..yuck~  tongue.gif
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WTF i didnt feed him with LIZARD...this lil sugar glider catch himself..i totally no idea...so one day i found out my house lizard all go missing..? drool.gif
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QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Aug 23 2010, 03:50 PM)
WTF i didnt feed him with LIZARD...this lil sugar glider catch himself..i totally no idea...so one day i found out my house lizard all go missing..? drool.gif
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LoL...dat is weird..whr u cage him? or jz let him roam inside ur room when free time....so geng can catch by himself wan...how u train him LoL..teach me leh... tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(allenna @ Aug 23 2010, 11:30 AM)
What I meant was........the sugar glider was born naturally looking like that......GENETICALLY different by it's colour...sometimes I found really hard to explain to people even the easiest explanation....I ONLY want to explain what I saw with my two eyes only. WELL....it's up to your own JUDGEMENTATIONS.........I have already explained the situation and have we ever wonder why they are different sizes or hair colours.....why there are big trees and small trees......look around us there's a lot of going on in our every day's life..sometimes we have the answer and sometimes we don't.....ONLY GOD KNOWS..!!!
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QUOTE(me>>ieLA @ Aug 23 2010, 11:38 AM)
Okay,will accept ur opinion on this..Sifus out there,any other opinion??

tednet>> its k ya..just want to know more on this as i have never seen this kind of GENETICALLY different sg
Jolene>> me too..i have search everywhere and never find any information about this kind of sg and am eager to find out more so that i can try to avoid anything that maybe factors towards this from happening..
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Frankly, I don't really think the shah alam seller is a good breeder. I made this statement not because I'm sided on any party, but purely my own opinion. From the way he/she running his business and the information that he/she given to customers, he/she is just another money minded mass breeder for me.. smile.gif

No offense but this is what i feell... notworthy.gif

Normally people often throw the ques to God when they don't know the answer... who knows the black pigmentation of the glider nose is formed because of unethical and uncontrollable breeding or inbreeding?

Mayb GOD knows..


QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Aug 23 2010, 03:01 PM)
Malaysian gliders sold at petshop from mass produced breeders r often inbreed line. So it is hard to trace their genetics.

Actually, to confirm the blackish nose glider, why dont u all just go to the fella's place n have a look?
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Let's plan a trip then...

QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Aug 23 2010, 03:50 PM)
WTF i didnt feed him with LIZARD...this lil sugar glider catch himself..i totally no idea...so one day i found out my house lizard all go missing..? drool.gif
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QUOTE(piggyzai @ Aug 23 2010, 04:04 PM)
LoL...dat is weird..whr u cage him? or jz let him roam inside ur room when free time....so geng can catch by himself wan...how u train him LoL..teach me leh... tongue.gif    biggrin.gif
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You didnt feed him with lizard, but you have the time to capture the photos of ur glider eating lizard? From your act, you are actually allowing your glider to eat the lizard.

Again, an important point to stress on this - DO NOT feed or allow your glider to eat any wildcaught insects, as you dono they carry any bacteria/virus/poison...

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QUOTE(allenna @ Aug 23 2010, 11:30 AM)
What I meant was........the sugar glider was born naturally looking like that......GENETICALLY different by it's colour...sometimes I found really hard to explain to people even the easiest explanation....I ONLY want to explain what I saw with my two eyes only. WELL....it's up to your own JUDGEMENTATIONS.........I have already explained the situation and have we ever wonder why they are different sizes or hair colours.....why there are big trees and small trees......look around us there's a lot of going on in our every day's life..sometimes we have the answer and sometimes we don't.....ONLY GOD KNOWS..!!!
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i mean, if u keep gliders in such quantity in that cage n the way they cramped together, i know that it's not right already
that's i jump into conclusion that the nose is that way due to fighting/injury as they do fight when there's like 10 gliders in a cage?
if the pic was shown to me in a close up, with black pigmentation then i would have a different opinion then
bu so far i've not seen gliders with black pigmentation on their nose before
but then, with that pic...can't blame me for jumping into that conclusion
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 23 2010, 08:24 PM)
Frankly, I don't really think the shah alam seller is a good breeder. I made this statement not because I'm sided on any party, but purely my own opinion. From the way he/she running his business and the information that he/she given to customers, he/she is just another money minded mass breeder for me.. smile.gif

No offense but this is what i feell... notworthy.gif 

Normally people often throw the ques to God when they don't know the answer... who knows the black pigmentation of the glider nose is formed because of unethical and uncontrollable breeding or inbreeding?

Mayb GOD knows..
Let's plan a trip then...
You didnt feed him with lizard, but you have the time to capture the photos of ur glider eating lizard? From your act, you are actually allowing your glider to eat the lizard.

Again, an important point to stress on this - DO NOT feed or allow your glider to eat any wildcaught insects, as you dono they carry any bacteria/virus/poison...
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He is not mass breeding yet, he took most from suppliers.. rolleyes.gif But he is going to go for a 50 pairs target of mass breeding in future. shocking.gif

Let's go and visit.

Me, Eric, and jitshiong perhaps? hmm.gif

Cheers
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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Aug 23 2010, 11:34 PM)
He is not mass breeding yet, he took most from suppliers.. rolleyes.gif But he is going to go for a 50 pairs target of mass breeding in future. shocking.gif

Let's go and visit.

Me, Eric, and jitshiong perhaps? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Aug 24 2010, 12:34 AM)
He is not mass breeding yet, he took most from suppliers.. rolleyes.gif But he is going to go for a 50 pairs target of mass breeding in future. shocking.gif

Let's go and visit.

Me, Eric, and jitshiong perhaps? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Aug 23 2010, 11:34 PM)
He is not mass breeding yet, he took most from suppliers.. rolleyes.gif But he is going to go for a 50 pairs target of mass breeding in future. shocking.gif

Let's go and visit.

Me, Eric, and jitshiong perhaps? hmm.gif

Cheers
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Aug 23 2010, 08:24 PM)
You didnt feed him with lizard, but you have the time to capture the photos of ur glider eating lizard? From your act, you are actually allowing your glider to eat the lizard.

Again, an important point to stress on this - DO NOT feed or allow your glider to eat any wildcaught insects, as you dono they carry any bacteria/virus/poison...
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errr...me or dat guy who took the photo...
i jz joking oni btw... tongue.gif i will nvr ever feed my gliders wif any insects dat i caught in the house... shakehead.gif

hey btw eric u study where? are u staying around setapak area? cz u seems familiar @@
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QUOTE(piggyzai @ Aug 24 2010, 10:38 AM)
errr...me or dat guy who took the photo...
i jz joking oni btw... tongue.gif  i will nvr ever feed my gliders wif any insects dat i caught in the house... shakehead.gif

hey btw eric u study where? are u staying around setapak area? cz u seems familiar @@
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i'm referring to that guy to capture that picture..

Yea i'm tarcian, so i'm in setapak.
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hi all

i want to ask why my daisy likes to pull russell's penis? i have seen few times and russell now likes to take his food inside the pouch.

they are still playing with each other like before.. is there anything wrong?
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I don't think he will be glad if see me...lol.. heard from some members saying that he is telling his customer that he hates me so much...
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LOL!! icon_rolleyes.gif
wakakakaka.. he sure vomit blood.. sweat.gif
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Hi guys,

I recently just adopted two puppies (kelvin i sms you b4 in regards of the boarding), but will be bringing them back hometown this week.

I must admit that because i had to pay more attention on the puppies last few days that i have "neglected" my suggies.

I didnt play with them for a few days, i seems to realise that they seems like very gan chiong around me now. not that "tame" i mean.
Is it because that i didnt play with them for few days or because of the doggie smell ?

now i put the puppies downstairs and will play with my suggies after i wash myself ( i scared i scare them with the puppies smell)

Am i doing correctly?
Thanks..

They still take food from my hand those but dont seems as tame as last time..


Added on August 24, 2010, 1:45 pmanother thg is i have been putting the pair of suggies together for more than 1 month together now,
however i'll still hear fighting sound every nite. (not whole nite, just for 2,3 sec each time). But they do slp in the same pouch.
Is it still ok to put them together?

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hi wassup!
u guys remember the feller from CSR,shah alam selling underage? and some more claim his stuff cheaper than the others?
yeah? well, all that is his gliders..see the rusty cage?
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btw i wanna ask u... how come u say his glider?? and if u see carefully u can see who upload da pic in FB...
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QUOTE(farid87 @ Aug 25 2010, 12:27 PM)
btw i wanna ask u... how come u say his glider?? and if u see carefully u can see who upload da pic in FB...
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refer post 370 and read carefully..


Added on August 25, 2010, 1:02 pmand somehow..please, if want side with that /b/..go..but don't come here and defending that guy..


pesan kat dia jangan jadi pengecut..he dont even dare to come out when group of unhappy buyer come to his house bring a dead suggie..he just menyorok..


1)putting rabbit pellet food onto SG pellet box is just stupid..

2) claimed tat his glider are SO HEALTHY , so no need to bring to the vets.

3) copy and paste person, besides of being cheapskates he never hv gut to hold the glider..konon tak mahu bond..padadahal takut nak pegang glider.


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ok bro i nop defending anyone... and i never meet this guy...
because wat i see da pic juz uploading by da girl name : Fatin Zafirah Zahir ....
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ok bro i nop defending anyone... and i never meet this guy...
because wat i see da pic juz uploading by da girl name :  Fatin Zafirah Zahir ....
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never mention name here, boss...

yes upload by her but those pity joey belong to someone else.
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er.. any seniors able to give me some advice? thanks
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QUOTE(geo @ Aug 24 2010, 01:43 PM)
Hi guys,

I recently just adopted two puppies (kelvin i sms you b4 in regards of the boarding), but will be bringing them back hometown this week.

I must admit that because i had to pay more attention on the puppies last few days that i have "neglected" my suggies.

I didnt play with them for a few days, i seems to realise that they seems like very gan chiong around me now. not that "tame" i mean.
Is it because that i didnt play with them for few days or because of the doggie smell ?

now i put the puppies downstairs and will play with my suggies after i wash myself ( i scared i scare them with the puppies smell)

Am i doing correctly?
Thanks..

They still take food from my hand those but dont seems as tame as last time..


Added on August 24, 2010, 1:45 pmanother thg is i have been putting the pair of suggies together for more than 1 month together now,
however i'll still hear fighting sound every nite. (not whole nite, just for 2,3 sec each time). But they do slp in the same pouch.
Is it still ok to put them together?
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1 ) Yes, they r animals who do scenting/musk on everywhere.. So the dog scent is making them cautious, because they not only smell u "the favourite tree" but also a threatening smell.. Do they run about like crazy, jumping like no normally? wink.gif

You r doing great so far, coz u do take note on what have occured. Moving down the pups to downstairs n washing/cleaning urself before handling the gliders.. It takes time to tame them back, but mine already used to my dog smell. Immune.. LOL.. wub.gif

2 ) Can u describe the sound they make? Normally when they crab (sound of starting a car engine) is normally the sound u have to take note. This means they are threatened. Scared. Wana kick some a$$ mode. sweat.gif

Hissing (sss like a snake), chattering (soft chet chet chet sound), a combination of both is tolerate enough. See if they r trying to bite each other or actually grooming.. Grooming is good but not bitting, normally when one bites the other, the kena bite one will jerit. That's all i can manage to input u now..

U just need to be there to monitor them from time to time.. See what they do when they r most active.

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I dont where i read an article before titled : Pet trade a lucrative business
the content states that' supplier have a permanent idea that animals are pure commodities and if it brings them money they dont care how or where to get it(better cheaply). '
You cant really change the mind of these money loving (creeps) but i think we all can educate their source of income and that is the buyers or consumers. The suggiesathome website is not widely known enough to let potential buyet to read it. Anyone kind enough the set up a FB page based on Suggies? wink.gif
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there is quite a number of sugar glider page on FB if u go search on it...
lol!
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LoL...dat is weird..whr u cage him? or jz let him roam inside ur room when free time....so geng can catch by himself wan...how u train him LoL..teach me leh... tongue.gif    biggrin.gif
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well i cant stop him to catch the lizard and eat...i force to put sg on top of my cupboard if not my dog will bark nonstop...well she only caught lizard ....so one day i check her..she regular caught a lizard especially lizard mating time..well she is fine 1 year already healthy and playful tame ... i feed her with HPW..im not newbie pls dont try to teach me la...i seldom post here doesnt mean ... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Aug 23 2010, 10:35 PM)
i mean, if u keep gliders in such quantity in that cage n the way they cramped together, i know that it's not right already
that's i jump into conclusion that the nose is that way due to fighting/injury as they do fight when there's like 10 gliders in a cage?
if the pic was shown to me in a close up, with black pigmentation then i would have a different opinion then
bu so far i've not seen gliders with black pigmentation on their nose before
but then, with that pic...can't blame me for jumping into that conclusion
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I know that your intention was good for the sake of the glider....I just want to explained that I have seen that glider before (she really look like a cute puppy with that black nose of her's)......IF only I have used the word PIGMENTATION....(never cross my mind of the word at that time) AND THANKS Kelvin_faye for your explanations rclxms.gif ....... again....I apologize for my actions to those who feel offended with my sentences or words..SORRY YOU GUYS blush.gif and by the way I only been to the fellar's place once only... curiosity to see his place brows.gif
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QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Aug 26 2010, 01:01 AM)
well i cant stop him to catch the lizard and eat...i force to put sg on top of my cupboard if not my dog will bark nonstop...well she only caught lizard ....so one day i check her..she regular caught a lizard especially lizard mating time..well she is fine 1 year already healthy and playful tame ... i feed her with HPW..im not newbie pls dont try to teach me la...i seldom post here doesnt mean ... sweat.gif
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Even you are senior, even you keep gliders for 10 20years, when you did something wrong that means it's wrong... We are not trying to put the blame on you or either anyone here, we just point out the issue and remind others not to do it..

If i were you, i would not hangat hangat go and grab a camera and capture the pic of my glider happily eating the lizard..instead, i will grab his favorite treats such as yogurt drop or mealworms and TRADE the lizard with him...
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Agree with u eric..bt the word 'hangat hangat' means? hmm.gif notworthy.gif
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Hey guys, i need some help here. My female glider was pregnant and the joey inside her pouch should be around 5-6 months, but something bad happen 1 week ago. Everytime i feed my gliders, i will check on their pouch to see the baby is ok. But 1 week ago, when i go see the female, the baby inside the pouch is gone. I was shocked and i tot the mom eat the baby.... than i decided to go check on the sleeping pouch to see if there were "left over"... When i looked inside.... OMG.... the baby is inside the sleeping pouch. The baby seems out of the pouch and was left inside the sleeping pouch. It is obviously immature baby. The body including tail is pink with no fur, the eyeball is big. The size not even as big as a peanut. That time i dunno what should i do, i just felt very sad and hopeless. The baby is still moving. I know that if the joey was detached from the mother nipples, it is hopeless for the baby to reattached back... some more this baby is immature and the jaw still seal. So i just put back to Sleeping pouch back into the cage with the immature joey inside.... to just hoping the mom will so "save" her baby.... After 2 days, i checked on the sleeping pouch again, the baby is still there and still moving too. I was like... speechless. den i leave it there again.... after 1 week, when i go feed my gliders again, I saw the mommy come out from the sleeping pouch and i was amazed. I saw the baby's head is sticking in the mom's pouch (looks like nursing), while the body is outside and not inside the pouch. And the baby was grabbing her mom tightly. I was like.... WOW..... It looks so weird, I tot the baby couldn't survive after so long. I don't wan to move the baby cuz i scare something bad happen. ....Wanna ask forumer here that what can i do after all this? I am thinking that i might just leave it like that....... hope any experts here can give me some advice. I'm a first timer.
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QUOTE(shazman @ Aug 26 2010, 10:36 PM)
Agree with u eric..bt the word 'hangat hangat' means? hmm.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Aug 27 2010, 12:50 AM)
Hey guys, i need some help here. My female glider was pregnant and the joey inside her pouch should be around 5-6 months, but something bad happen 1 week ago. Everytime i feed my gliders, i will check on their pouch to see the baby is ok. But 1 week ago, when i go see the female, the baby inside the pouch is gone. I was shocked and i tot the mom eat the baby.... than i decided to go check on the sleeping pouch to see if there were "left over"... When i looked inside.... OMG.... the baby is inside the sleeping pouch. The baby seems out of the pouch and was left inside the sleeping pouch. It is obviously immature baby. The body including tail is pink with no fur, the eyeball is big. The size not even as big as a peanut. That time i dunno what should i do, i just felt very sad and hopeless. The baby is still moving. I know that if the joey was detached from the mother nipples, it is hopeless for the baby to reattached back... some more this baby is immature and the jaw still seal. So i just put back to Sleeping pouch back into the cage with the immature joey inside.... to just hoping the mom will so "save" her baby.... After 2 days, i checked on the sleeping pouch again, the baby is still there and still moving too. I was like... speechless. den i leave it there again.... after 1 week, when i go feed my gliders again, I saw the mommy come out from the sleeping pouch and i was amazed. I saw the baby's head is sticking in the mom's pouch (looks like nursing), while the body is outside and not inside the pouch. And the baby was grabbing her mom tightly. I was like.... WOW..... It looks so weird, I tot the baby couldn't survive after so long. I don't wan to move the baby cuz i scare something bad happen. ....Wanna ask forumer here that what can i do after all this? I am thinking that i might just leave it like that....... hope any experts here can give me some advice. I'm a first timer.
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Erm.. joey inside the pouch around 5-6months? or 5-6weeks?

From what you describe, it seem like the joeys are out of pouch already, and they were in the pouch bbecause the mom went out to hunt for food.. When joeys are out of pouch, their tail are furless and eyes unopened... after 1-2weeks OOP then they will open their eyes and start develop their body and grow bigger..

And yea, even they are OOP already, they will still nursing on mother's milk for bout 1month.. so kinda normal to see them stick their head inside the pouch while body cling outside..

Jus make sure u provide sufficient nutrient and keep the stress level minimal...
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If u happen to see the birth of joeys after pregnant for 16days, then nursing IN POUCH will be 2 months, and another 2 months OUT OF POUCH.

U can look up in Version 12 of the glider joeys. Those r my first twins. Compare it urself. Thanks.

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sorry. my typo... not 5-6 months. it's weeks. Ok, i will try check on the post and compare


Added on August 27, 2010, 9:38 am@Kelvin....I checked already. The baby size doesn't look like your twins at all. For my baby, the size not as big as that.... almost half to 3/4 of your baby size only. and don't have black color fur on the back too.... whole body is pink. Tonight i will take picture for you guys to see. T_T i think the survival rate might be only 10-20%....

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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Aug 27 2010, 09:30 AM)
sorry. my typo... not 5-6 months. it's weeks. Ok, i will try check on the post and compare


Added on August 27, 2010, 9:38 am@Kelvin....I checked already. The baby size doesn't look like your twins at all. For my baby, the size not as big as that.... almost half to 3/4 of your baby size only. and don't have black color fur on the back too.... whole body is pink. Tonight i will take picture for you guys to see. T_T i think the survival rate might be only 10-20%....
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Seems like your joey OOP prematurely.... this can happen to first time mothers. For now you have to make sure the joey hangs on as much as it can. Look at the body. If you see the tail look bony then it is starving, you have to interfere and hand feed. Now the situation is hard. Some females will nurse back the joey. Some may not.... it is a good sign that it is still nursing. But don't handle your gliders too much yah, let the female do what she has to do. If the joey doesn't survive, then take it as a lesson coz breeding is never easy.
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Seems like your joey OOP prematurely.... this can happen to first time mothers. For now you have to make sure the joey hangs on as much as it can. Look at the body. If you see the tail look bony then it is starving, you have to interfere and hand feed. Now the situation is hard. Some females will nurse back the joey. Some may not.... it is a good sign that it is still nursing. But don't handle your gliders too much yah, let the female do what she has to do. If the joey doesn't survive, then take it as a lesson coz breeding is never easy.
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Ok, i get it now. But i never hand feed the baby cuz scare the glider might cannibalize the joey. Even never touch it with my hand. But luckily the mom got nursing him. Got a few time i saw the baby hanging on the mom's pouch. It's already been 1 week+ since the baby OOP and it still survive. Tonight the baby stay inside the pouch and the mom come out eat. I manage to take a few pic from the pouch too. This pic was taken tonight. 1 week ago, the tail is still pink color. But now, the tail got gray abit edi. Hope the baby can survive this.




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well, if this is taken today then the baby is definitely premature
but if the mommy is feeding him/her then it's ok
let mommy do her work
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Aug 29 2010, 11:29 PM)
Ok, i get it now. But i never hand feed the baby cuz scare the glider might cannibalize the joey. Even never touch it with my hand. But luckily the mom got nursing him. Got a few time i saw the baby hanging on the mom's pouch. It's already been 1 week+ since the baby OOP and it still survive. Tonight the baby stay inside the pouch and the mom come out eat. I manage to take a few pic from the pouch too. This pic was taken tonight. 1 week ago, the tail is still pink color. But now, the tail got gray abit edi. Hope the baby can survive this.
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OK, then for now, leave the mom and her joey by themselves. Is the dad with them?

I worry this would reoccure next time if you breed her, so you should retire them from breeding in future.

Yes, do not touch it. What I meant is monitor. If the joey looks like a raisin, skin and bones showing, you have no choice but to hand feed or it would die. But if the mom is still feeding now, best to let it be.
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Something happen at facebook..

Was telling potential owners and current owners bout the FACTs of sugar gliders..

And was correcting this facebook person, coz he is giving his own d*amn sh*t version of caresheets bout gliders..

Suddenly when i click to post my comment, i cant..

He acted fast TO DELETE me from being a fan.. HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

"Selling joeys at age 1.5months to 2 oop" & "bagi hpw, tak bagi ulat takpe".. its not "kalau bagi hpw, tak perlu bagi lagi ulat.." sweat.gif

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hahaha, chill la...
there r tons of ppl in this world...
i wouldn't go on to tell more
later ppl kill me....will have too many enemies if i start speaking bad
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Aug 30 2010, 12:05 AM)
OK, then for now, leave the mom and her joey by themselves. Is the dad with them?

I worry this would reoccure next time if you breed her, so you should retire them from breeding in future.

Yes, do not touch it. What I meant is monitor. If the joey looks like a raisin, skin and bones showing, you have no choice but to hand feed or it would die. But if the mom is still feeding now, best to let it be.
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Yes, the dad is with them. I will try to reconsider to breed her or not next time, propably won't cuz i don't want the same thing happen again. Thanks again. Will update if anything happens.
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if u dowan to breed her then gotta neuter the male de...
cos they will continue breeding wan
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if u dowan to breed her then gotta neuter the male de...
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Yes, the dad is with them. I will try to reconsider to breed her or not next time, propably won't cuz i don't want the same thing happen again. Thanks again. Will update if anything happens.
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Do u know that the Dad might have mated again with the MOM now? blink.gif Please consider fast, not reconsider.. nod.gif
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Do u know that the Dad might have mated again with the MOM now? blink.gif Please consider fast, not reconsider.. nod.gif
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omg really? But if i saperate the dad now, will the mom be able to take care of the joey?
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That's y u need proper planning when it involves breeding.. Just make sure the joey is ok first.. When it is stronger, then the Dad for neutering.. Dad plays an important role, of keeping joey warm, while Mom go play and feed herself.

It's a good parental instinct of gliders to take turns taking care joey. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Aug 30 2010, 01:20 PM)
That's y u need proper planning when it involves breeding.. Just make sure the joey is ok first.. When it is stronger, then the Dad for neutering.. Dad plays an important role, of keeping joey warm, while Mom go play and feed herself.

It's a good parental instinct of gliders to take turns taking care joey. smile.gif
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OK, so now i will monitor the baby how. If 1 week later and the baby is still fine, i will bring the father to neutered. Is that ok?
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Hi....Just want to ask about this food supplement that my mom have bought recently at a popular pet shop which she saw on the shelf of the store and she even asked the shop assistant about it it. She haven't gave it to the gliders yet cause she wanted to asked my permission first weather it is save to give them. My mom likes to try everything those are eatable to the gliders at any available pet shops, she even gave them dried roses and rose hip to them once a while as a treat.

She said that at the label stated Honey-egg Food supplement which the ingredients are :- egg , honey, soya meal, white millet and niger seed... to be sprinkle on the food.

If it is save then I can inform her that it's aye ok to give it to them.....
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Hi....Just want to ask about this food supplement that my mom have bought recently at a popular pet shop which she saw on the shelf of the store and she even asked the shop assistant about it it. She haven't gave it to the gliders yet cause she wanted to asked my permission first weather it is save to give them. My mom likes to try everything those are eatable to the gliders at any available pet shops,  she even gave them dried roses and rose hip to them once a while as a treat.

She said that at the label stated Honey-egg Food supplement which the ingredients are :- egg , honey, soya meal, white millet and niger seed... to be sprinkle on the food.

If it is save then I can inform her that it's aye ok to give it to them.....
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I think that is not sugar glider food. The company that produces that brand of food somehow takes other products to repack as glider food. Why, how come glider pellets are green and are in the shape of fish? Anwser is it is cat food. Another pellet is using Kangaroo and Rice, which is what some dog food in Australia is made from..... and this honey and egg supplement has seeds like millet and niger, it is more for birds and grain eaters.....
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Good news, Looks like the mom is taking care of her joey pretty good. Just now i saw the mommy come out and the joey hanging under her pouch and i can see the joey is nursing from her mom, Can see she bitting the mom's nipple. Pretty impressive to see the joey's jaw can open that fast, due to it's size. I guess i can bring the Father go neutered now.
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i went to (....insert pet shop name here....) this evening, they jual SG, letak dlm display exoterra punya bekas, no jaring for the glider to climb only on top of the bekas, where direct lampu oso got atas jaring.

i pity the SG. . feel like crying oso got. . ;__;
the SG tergantung upside down with both of her leg dekat jaring,n her both hand x pegang apa2 but then shivering. . D= menggigil, i don know why. . ;__;

kasian. . T___T
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Aug 31 2010, 11:32 AM)
I think that is not sugar glider food. The company that produces that brand of food somehow takes other products to repack as glider food. Why, how come glider pellets are green and are in the shape of fish? Anwser is it is cat food. Another pellet is using Kangaroo and Rice, which is what some dog food in Australia is made from..... and this honey and egg supplement has seeds like millet and niger, it is more for birds and grain eaters.....
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Thanks for the information rclxms.gif ......I already informed my mom not to give it to the gliders and also asked her weather she have ever given the gliders any green pellets with the shape of fish or pellets using Kangaroo and rice and she replied that she have not and never seen one of those before......AND by the way, the twins joeys are doing fine. My mom said that she can see two tiny tails sticking out of the mom's pouch and sometimes one of the joeys came out of the pouch with it's mouth still sucking it's mom's nipple. They are quite big with no fur on them ( my mom said that the skin feels like soft rubber ) and the mom can hardly move with that enormous belly and she's always like to lay on her back...is that normal.....My mom calculate that the twins will be oop by the middle of November or maybe sooner...... rclxm9.gif

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Good news, Looks like the mom is taking care of her joey pretty good. Just now i saw the mommy come out and the joey hanging under her pouch and i can see the joey is nursing from her mom, Can see she bitting the mom's nipple. Pretty impressive to see the joey's jaw can open that fast, due to it's size. I guess i can bring the Father go neutered now.
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My little Jo-Jo barks at wee hours in the morning.... i play with her... pet her...sayang her... then when I leave her alone and off to bed she'll start her "yap, yap, yap, yap,yap..." I found the reason why.. she wants a Snack... is this normal?
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QUOTE(echosmiles @ Sep 2 2010, 01:34 AM)
My little Jo-Jo barks at wee hours in the morning.... i play with her... pet her...sayang her... then when I leave her alone and off to bed she'll start her "yap, yap, yap, yap,yap..." I found the reason why.. she wants a Snack... is this normal?
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Yes it is normal for gliders to bark at late night/early morning..
They have several meanings for it..
If a snack makes it stop, then it's good!
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halo guys, i got two female gliders, but both of them dislike each other.
can u guys shown me the way to mix them together?
that way, it can help me as keeper to maintain better, thanks. ^^
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did u juz put them together? u need to introduce them 1st.. put in the different cage then let them know/smell each other 1st.. u cant juz put them without introduce
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hey guys i intend to get a sugarglider soon.
can i just get an average cage?
as i live in an apartmant.
can i get ones that are like for hamters the bigger ones?
and i cant find any pet shop that sells pellets for sugargliders
and cant find cages for sugargliders
im in penang btw.
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 2 2010, 09:30 PM)
hey guys i intend to get a sugarglider soon.
can i just get an average cage?
as i live in an apartmant.
can i get ones that are like for hamters the bigger ones?
and i cant find any pet shop  that sells pellets for sugargliders
and cant find cages for sugargliders
im in penang btw.
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hye there..


what pellet food for? i may suggest to variety of fruits and vege plus HPW but please no pellet as a staple food tongue.gif


regarding cage.Minimum 3 feet high.we should not compromise on the size of the cage smile.gif

i would like to urge new owners to invest more money on that.go get bigger can.yes, 3 feet is minimum but i the way o see it right now, the quality of standard 3feet cage is quite low.

i went to meet kelvin on last Tue and discuss a bit about 3 feet cages.not tough as before and also the size become much smaller.( and yes, i still owe him 27 bucks hehe)

mine got rusty a bit but manage to buy 3.5feet from kelvin which i found good and give more space for my glider.Plus more easy to clean it.

so guys, whenever u got time go seek and ask yr local pet store for good,durable and bigger cage suitable for sugar gliders.

Invest more rather than slow update because we do not know when the cage start going rust..i mean, in small small area sure tak perasan one.
expensive,no? yes but in long term it worth.

other than that, go DIY..some of ppl i saw in FB hv great idea by built up good cage for their gliders..i think it was from a wardrobe frame, rite? with mesh and cable tight.

so, what say u?

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i just need help
plus in penang cant find much stuff
any breeder or knows any pet store in penang pls pm me
i really wanna own one of this cuties :\
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 2 2010, 09:30 PM)
hey guys i intend to get a sugarglider soon.
can i just get an average cage?
as i live in an apartmant.
can i get ones that are like for hamters the bigger ones?
and i cant find any pet shop  that sells pellets for sugargliders
and cant find cages for sugargliders
im in penang btw.
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Please read the first page first. Theres answer for your questions there.

Does your apartment allow pets?

No hamster cages please. Gliders are borned climbers, they need space and height for them to climb. At least a 3ft cage. Invest more for long term use.

Do not get gliders from pet shop you are basicly supporting underaged and unhealthy gliders being sold. Read first page for sugar glider diet and no they do not solely live on pellets. I recommend to go for Bugsy HPW as their staple diet with a variety of fruits.

Yes you can find those bird cages for sugar glider but definitely not the small one please.

Please reconsider getting a pair or only one glider because glider needs attention and care because they are very social pets. If you're only planning to get one glider, then be prepared to spend most of your time with your glider. This doesn't mean you don't have to spend time with them if you have a pair.

Read through first page and good luck.
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 2 2010, 11:11 PM)
i just need help
plus in penang cant find much stuff
any breeder or knows any pet store in penang pls pm me
i really wanna own one of this cuties :\
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i dun live in penang so i dont know any good breeder there.

but i believe you should start step by step..do not go onto impulse buying.

first, get a minimum 3feet cage.

second, buy some essential thing like sleeping and bonding pouch.scent cloth too..u can get it online tongue.gif

3rd, learn more about their eating and habit.pellet food is not good diet for them.thus read more at the 1st page of this thread.

4th, locate where the seller..if u want get an underage ( we don't support that idea) there's a lots of them.
if u wanna get a healthy glider, maybe a trip to KL or selangor might be a good idea.some of us here got joey or suggie for sale.hence, u can buy suggie stuff here too.

above all that, get yr budget right.
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 2 2010, 11:11 PM)
i just need help
plus in penang cant find much stuff
any breeder or knows any pet store in penang pls pm me
i really wanna own one of this cuties :\
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Pg got a lot of petshop la....
so many to buy from...
cages u can get from CTY, KW, Toby....these r the bigger ones...
got smaller shops also
just hunt around.

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Sep 2 2010, 11:20 PM)
Pg got a lot of petshop la....
so many to buy from...
cages u can get from CTY, KW, Toby....these r the bigger ones...
got smaller shops also
just hunt around.
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for glider stuff maybe okay..can go hunting around as per above advise tongue.gif

p/s but i don't think pet shop in penang selling any healthy joey..rite?
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Cty? Toby? And there Is one in tanjung tokong called sun sui it sells joeys too
Idk
But I really want one
The food I have no Idea where to buy
And so is the cage
Omg ):
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QUOTE(loritanah @ Sep 2 2010, 11:23 PM)
for glider stuff maybe okay..can go hunting around as per above advise tongue.gif

p/s but i don't think pet shop in penang selling any healthy joey..rite?
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well, i didn't state in my reply to get gliders there
lol! laugh.gif
i only say hunt for cages....
lol!!!
if interested, can PM me
i do go back pg sometimes
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Sep 2 2010, 11:27 PM)
well, i didn't state in my reply to get gliders there
lol! laugh.gif
i only say hunt for cages....
lol!!!
if interested, can PM me
i do go back pg sometimes
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hehehe...just mention it incase got some new comer asking

btw Snowguy2068, i think u can contact jitshiong for joeys..and can also ask him to buy u cage too hehe
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QUOTE(loritanah @ Sep 2 2010, 11:29 PM)
hehehe...just mention it incase got some new comer asking

btw Snowguy2068, i think u can contact jitshiong for joeys..and can also ask him to buy u cage too hehe
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hahaha, buy cage from kl?
i think the cage price in pg cheaper...
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Sep 2 2010, 11:39 PM)
hahaha, buy cage from kl?
i think the cage price in pg cheaper...
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dunno man..coz he tak mention his budget..hope not the kind person that looking for cheap cheap one lah...
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How much for one health joey?
Cage?
My local shop selling 250 offer me 200 cause bought my dog from there
And if in penang can pm me pls
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 2 2010, 11:57 PM)
How much for one health joey?
Cage?
My local shop selling 250 offer me 200 cause bought my dog from there
And if in penang can pm me pls
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good healthy fluffy joey cost around 300 to 350 ..

3feet cage is around 70 to 100..if got more money better , go for 3.5 or 4feet lor..(5feet also got kan?)
try check on bird size cage..sure murah murah in penang.take note the size in between that cage..cannot be to big coz sugar glider is an expert yoga master..

local shop most likely selling underage joey.can spot by their skinny tails and small sizes..up yours.

my advise, don't rush..study more about this animal first.
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And where do I get all those food stuff
And bonding pouch.where to get

Omg so many questions
And I read first page d
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 3 2010, 12:03 AM)
And where do I get all those food stuff
And bonding pouch.where  to get 

Omg so many questions
And I read first page d
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aiyo....pouch and food suppliment can get online

try petshack.com.my


staple foods are

1 portion fruits+1 portion fruits+vege+ HPW

read the 1st page again and again..many useful information there
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Snowguy2068,
please read the first page thoroughly first... read word by word and try use your imagination on how your life would be after getting the suggies...
suggies as pets i believe is not as easy as dogs or cats as pets... this exotic creature needs a lot of attention...
also, is there any vet that can handle suggies in penang?
also... i suggest to slowly do research about the sugar glider first... dont repeat the same mistake as my wife did when she decide to buy sugar glider on impulse... sad.gif
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How much money should I prepare


Added on September 3, 2010, 3:21 amok im crazy
i cant sleep as tomorrow is the last day of school
Im wondering how am i gonna tell my mum that buying at 200 wont be good and 350(i want a female) would be a better idea
and im in love with them
i went to you tube and watch videos from vets
http://asgv.org/index.php
yeah
i really want one.
and i hope I can meet with a home breeder face to face and discuss and still get after sales help
smile.gif


Added on September 3, 2010, 3:08 pmgoing for cage hunting now
and pmed jit and texted him


Added on September 3, 2010, 6:52 pmAnd the suggie bite me really hard.
Will upload pic of Suggie and a cage
Then pls tell me should I buy
Plus the suggie is like very scared

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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 3 2010, 12:31 AM)
How much money should I prepare


Added on September 3, 2010, 3:21 amok im crazy
i cant sleep as tomorrow is the last day of school
Im wondering how am i gonna tell my mum that buying at 200 wont be good and 350(i want a female) would be a better idea
and im in love with them
i went to you tube and watch videos from vets
http://asgv.org/index.php
yeah
i really want one.
and i hope I can meet with a home breeder face to face and discuss and still get after sales help
smile.gif


Added on September 3, 2010, 3:08 pmgoing for cage hunting now
and pmed jit and texted him


Added on September 3, 2010, 6:52 pmAnd the suggie bite me really hard.
Will upload pic of Suggie and a cage
Then pls tell me should I buy
Plus the suggie is like very scared
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Mmm.. why not tell your mum that most pet shop sells under aged gliders lo. And that they might not be as healthy and might fall sick or even die earlier which would result to putting in more $. Something like that O:
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She thinks I'm bullshitting lol

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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 3 2010, 12:31 AM)
How much money should I prepare


Added on September 3, 2010, 3:21 amok im crazy
i cant sleep as tomorrow is the last day of school
Im wondering how am i gonna tell my mum that buying at 200 wont be good and 350(i want a female) would be a better idea
and im in love with them
i went to you tube and watch videos from vets
http://asgv.org/index.php
yeah
i really want one.
and i hope I can meet with a home breeder face to face and discuss and still get after sales help
smile.gif


Added on September 3, 2010, 3:08 pmgoing for cage hunting now
and pmed jit and texted him


Added on September 3, 2010, 6:52 pmAnd the suggie bite me really hard.
Will upload pic of Suggie and a cage
Then pls tell me should I buy
Plus the suggie is like very scared
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Well, if you really a suggie lover, u can solve this problem. There are many ways u can do such as, u dig out RM150 from your pocket. Or make instalments to pay ur parents back. There always be a way. It's on how MUCH u want it.... Don't give up bro thumbup.gif
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there and 150 is kinda expensive cause im just a student :\
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there and 150 is kinda expensive cause im just a student :\
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What? Did i see wrong or it's a real ORANGE you are feeding the gliders? and it's in such a big portion... Don really recommend u feed acidic fruits...

Is that a proper size of cage u get?


Added on September 3, 2010, 11:48 pmOh yea, i saw PELLET too..is that proper glider pellet? if it's not or if you are not sure bout it, please remove it for safe.

And fyi, BUGSY sugar glider products are available in penang too.

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where do they sell?
and those are the shop mia
haven buy yet
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hi guys... Recently my wife got promoted and her work commitment is hard for her to take care of Momo... currently im taking care of momo and as i have sinus problems, it affect my health...
so i'm thinking of opening momo for adoption cry.gif

i hope he can find a better owner than my wife and I...

Momo adoption post in Adoption Thread...

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is ur momo neuter? ?
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kudos to eric138 for a very informative thread with detailed information, an excellent read. Had me spellbound and for a brief moment was thinking of getting one myself!
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there and 150 is kinda expensive cause im just a student :\
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boss,

this is really an expensive hobby u know?

willing to spend is the key but if u on tight budget , i rather suggest u simpan duit dahulu laaaa until reach certain amount..

otherwise, if mommy also told u its too expensive..try buy hamster or hedgehog.also comel/cute but i think less money tongue.gif
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Gonna prolly get my suggie.
Just I wanna know where to buy bugsy stuff
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What happens after u got ur affordable pet(s)? U still need to spend lots on the first purchase (enclosures, feeder bowl, water bottle, accessories, food, supplements, treats, medical check up, etc - the list goes on, depending on how u treat ur pets - correct way OR own way)..

Nothing is affordable these days..

U can have a sugar glider and yet be affordable with all things u need, just research here n there..

Being a student doesn't mean u can't afford..

Eric is still a student, i was once a student with 4 sugar gliders, 3 ferrets, 6 duprasis, 30++ mongolian gerbils.. I am with them in the U for 1 year plus.. Did i complaint?

It ur own attitude now, that's the problem..

Change ur mindset first please..

Affordable pet = Go to ur garden and catch some bugs, keep in the plastic cookies containers and feed left over food..

Cheers
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Gonna prolly get my suggie.
Just I wanna know where to buy bugsy stuff
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after u get ur suggie from thr petshop, pls dun come back here n cry...
asking y the glider bites so hard...
dun ask y the glider always run away...
if u can't afford to spend, pls dun buy
wait till u can afford it
else it's the glider that's gonna suffer
not u...pls think properly, although i believe u have already made up ur mind to buy
in my opinion, u r not ready to keep on yet...
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Being a student is not an excuse. I really don't like it when ppl use that as a reason to get 'discount'. Also some of them are very persistent & annoying. I'm a student as well but you don't see me going around asking for cheaper cuz I'm a student.

If you can't afford it, DON'T BUY. Simple, cuz it shows you're not ready for the commitment.

Even when I was in primary school I saved up my RM3 daily pocket money for a week to buy a hamster. So if you can't afford it now, wait when you start working & have money then only think of committing yourself to a pet that requires higher maintenance than a hamster.
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Sep 4 2010, 02:37 PM)
Being a student is not an excuse. I really don't like it when ppl use that as a reason to get 'discount'. Also some of them are very persistent & annoying. I'm a student as well but you don't see me going around asking for cheaper cuz I'm a student.

If you can't afford it, DON'T BUY. Simple, cuz it shows you're not ready for the commitment.

Even when I was in primary school I saved up my RM3 daily pocket money for a week to buy a hamster. So if you can't afford it now, wait when you start working & have money then only think of committing yourself to a pet that requires higher maintenance than a hamster.
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Good one Reanne..

I worked partime jobs on weekends as sampling promoters for 5 months, just to buy the hedgehog's enclosures, sugar gliders starter kits and mongolian gerbils' 2feet tanks.. Lol.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi guys...I just bought an instant HPW( a well know product...B***y)) from a well known pet shop....when I open the packet the ingredient looks very odd...not like before..this packet/product is from Australia not from USA..and it's looks like the ingredient yellowish and like mold like powder...Is that normal..???? I'm afraid to give it to my gliders.... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Sep 4 2010, 03:56 PM

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All don't think I can handle It .:/
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is ur momo neuter? ?
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momo not yet neuter...

QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 03:56 PM)
All don't think I can handle It .:/
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actually its up to u... u need to do your own budget calculations... as they all said, its not cheap to maintain... especially when u started it...
also, u need to consider the time that u will spend with them... some people, although there are busy, they can still give attention to their suggies... some people cant..
u need to ask yourself which category are u in... and think ahead of time... think wat kind of job that u will get in the future... will u have the time for suggies in the future? coz suggies average life is 10-15 years...
at least u have done a good job by joining this forum thread and know what it takes to have sugar glider as pets...
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 03:56 PM)
All don't think I can handle It .:/
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we think u can't handle it cos of the responds that u gave us
we have been here for a long time...n we've seen ppl like..
so that's the conclusion we arrive to
as simple as that
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I got the bonding pouch.
Found where they sell. A good cage and bugsy pellets and yogurt drops


Added on September 4, 2010, 7:38 pmand ill save up
like crazy for my future SG
30 per week just for her(im getting a female) expenses


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QUOTE(allenna @ Sep 4 2010, 02:56 PM)
Hi guys...I just bought an instant HPW( a well know product...B***y)) from a well known pet shop....when I open the packet the ingredient looks very odd...not like before..this packet/product is from Australia not from USA..and it's looks  like the ingredient yellowish and like mold like powder...Is that normal..???? I'm afraid to give it to my gliders.... icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Can u post pictures? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Sep 4 2010, 05:43 PM)
momo not yet neuter...
actually its up to u... u need to do your own budget calculations... as they all said, its not cheap to maintain... especially when u started it...
also, u need to consider the time that u will spend with them... some people, although there are busy, they can still give attention to their suggies... some people cant..
u need to ask yourself which category are u in... and think ahead of time... think wat kind of job that u will get in the future... will u have the time for suggies in the future? coz suggies average life is 10-15 years...
at least u have done a good job by joining this forum thread and know what it takes to have sugar glider as pets...
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cool,i might wanna adopt it~ blush.gif blush.gif
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QUOTE(allenna @ Sep 4 2010, 02:56 PM)
Hi guys...I just bought an instant HPW( a well know product...B***y)) from a well known pet shop....when I open the packet the ingredient looks very odd...not like before..this packet/product is from Australia not from USA..and it's looks  like the ingredient yellowish and like mold like powder...Is that normal..???? I'm afraid to give it to my gliders.... icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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I have been using Bugsy Instant HPW for long period, so far never encounter any problem before. You mind to show us any photo of it? And yes, it's from Australia.


Added on September 4, 2010, 10:06 pmOh yea, fyi, it's memang yellowish color. If you used Instant HPW before like what you mentioned, you should know it's in yellowish powder form.

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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Sep 4 2010, 07:46 PM)
Can u post pictures? hmm.gif
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Hi Kelvin...Im sorry cause I'm having problem loading pictures from my handphone to the computer...arrrrggghhh!!!!
Cause I normally give instant HPW to my gliders but this time the ingredient look like it is spoil.....like moldy powder...macam berkulat..that's why I rather not give it to my glider before conformation....They haven't eaten HPW today cause the pet shop is out of stock already.....that was the last packet that I bought.. icon_question.gif
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can i give this stuff to my future glider?
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein
is it good? or is hpw better?
and when they say cook the egg it means like how?
thanks
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 11:24 PM)
can i give this stuff to my future glider?
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein
is it good? or is hpw better?
and when they say cook the egg it means like how?
thanks
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try google around about the suggies dude
a lot of info about suggies you can find..don't just ask around..
pls have lil effort to do on your own smile.gif
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 11:24 PM)
can i give this stuff to my future glider?
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein
is it good? or is hpw better?
and when they say cook the egg it means like how?
thanks
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the Bugsy stuff u mention normally is treats/snacks for the suggies... HPW is their main diet and need to give everyday...
u can refer the below link for more information if u want to give HPW as their main diet... cook the egg, u can boil it or just cook it in the microwave...
http://www.sweet-sugar-gliders.com/sugar-g...roo-recipe.html
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hard boil is okay?
or the petshack website says scramble?
or how
really confused bout the egg part rclxub.gif

and i've been looking through SG's info for the pass week
like very day
so do not think im just asking around

I've read the first page so many times
and other webs i got through google.

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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 11:58 PM)

and i've been looking through SG's info for the pass week
like very day
so do not think im just asking around

I've read the first page so many times
and other webs i got through google.
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Sep 4 2010, 10:05 PM)
I have been using Bugsy Instant HPW for long period, so far never encounter any problem before. You mind to show us any photo of it? And yes, it's from Australia.


Added on September 4, 2010, 10:06 pmOh yea, fyi, it's memang yellowish color. If you used Instant HPW before like what you mentioned, you should know it's in yellowish powder form.
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Hi Eric...I know it is yellowish but this yellowish really bright yellowish.. macam a bit basah and moldy...macam berkulat la..tak macam biasa keadaannya....that's why I just want to know is it normal ...sorry I have tried to download the picture but failed.....that is why I asked because I don't want all of my sugies nanti sakit perut pulak...stomachache....a big..big problem.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 11:24 PM)
can i give this stuff to my future glider?
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein
is it good? or is hpw better?
and when they say cook the egg it means like how?
thanks
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Added on September 5, 2010, 10:26 amoh and to clear my doubt
aircon once in awhile is ok right?
whats the best temp to set for thee aircon

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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 11:24 PM)
can i give this stuff to my future glider?
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein
is it good? or is hpw better?
and when they say cook the egg it means like how?
thanks
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Bugsy HPW would be the main daily protein source for gliders... Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein provides protein as well, but this is an extra staple food that you can feed them when you are away for 1-2 days, or jus leave the food inside the cage during daytime. No harm if you give variety. smile.gif

QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 4 2010, 11:58 PM)
hard boil is okay?
or the petshack website says scramble?
or how
really confused bout the egg part  rclxub.gif

and i've been looking through SG's info for the pass week
like very day
so do not think im just asking around

I've read the first page so many times
and other webs i got through google.
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The eggs in HPW diet can be scramble or hardboil. Choose either way that you feel convenient. Some people dono how to make scramble egg, then they jus go for hardboil.

Note that, do not use any oil/salt/sugar/butter when cooking the eggs.

QUOTE(allenna @ Sep 5 2010, 02:09 AM)
Hi Eric...I know it is yellowish but this yellowish really bright yellowish.. macam a bit basah and moldy...macam berkulat la..tak macam biasa keadaannya....that's why I just want to know is it normal ...sorry I have tried to download the picture but failed.....that is why I asked because I don't want all of my sugies nanti sakit perut pulak...stomachache....a big..big problem....  doh.gif
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If this is the case, then you can discard the packet then get another one..since you are not certain and not able to show us the picture... The wombaroo protein powder is kinda bright yellow color for me... and when you mentioned it looks like mold, could it be the bee pollen? It is like small small tiny chunks...
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I was told tat glider's bark gt diff meaning rite ....

this morning (around 4++ am ), my gal bark thn i take her pouch out from her cage ( she's barking in her pouch ), I sayang her in her pouch bt she still bark thn i take her out from her pouch.. however, she still continue 2 bark even if i hold her in my hand... then i put her back in her pouch and continue sayang her, i was too tired so i sayang her v my eyes close (where she continue to bark) , she's only stop barking when i sayang v my eyes open....

can any1 explain wtz the meaning of this ? @.@

Thx smile.gif
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QUOTE(ylsy @ Sep 6 2010, 10:25 AM)
I was told tat glider's bark gt diff meaning rite ....

this morning (around 4++ am ), my gal bark thn i take her pouch out from her cage ( she's barking in her pouch ), I sayang her in her pouch bt she still bark thn i take her out from her pouch.. however, she still continue 2 bark even if i hold her in my hand... then i put her back in her pouch and continue sayang her, i was too tired so i sayang her v my eyes close (where she continue to bark) , she's only stop barking when i sayang v my eyes open....

can any1 explain wtz the meaning of this ? @.@

Thx  smile.gif
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simple.. suggie usually bark to get attention, she want ur sayang... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(tednet @ Sep 6 2010, 11:32 AM)
simple.. suggie usually bark to get attention, she want ur sayang... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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bt hw she knws i'm openin o closing my eyes ? @.@
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Getting my suggie later
Male or female better
I know not much diff but which is easier
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QUOTE(ylsy @ Sep 6 2010, 12:10 PM)
bt hw she knws i'm openin o closing my eyes ? @.@
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well those two big eyes aren't for nothing u know, they can see well in dark. maybe this mean she want to know u better..
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can sg stay in 17c aircon rooms?
just to make sure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jITpLON66WA&feature=related
and this vid states the good way of feeding is by pellets as staple food?


Added on September 6, 2010, 4:44 pmand if im at home should i put it in the bonding pouch?

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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 6 2010, 04:25 PM)
can sg stay in 17c aircon rooms?
just to make sure 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jITpLON66WA&feature=related
and this vid states the good way of feeding is by pellets as staple food?


Added on September 6, 2010, 4:44 pmand if im at home should i put it in the bonding pouch?
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About pellet food.

i found that many new owner just wanna go for easy way to feed their gliders..

although being explain several time here, ppl just cant get rid of their mind about pellet food..
"Hendak ambil jalan mudah only..." coz lazy when hearing how owner have to shop for fruits/vege and then chop fruits and vege every morning and night, replace them everytime , hand feeds etc..

the answer is NO.

Boss, i think i 've state to u several times also about "pellet food is not a staple" rite? sweat.gif

feeding pellet as a staple food is just another propaganda by pocket™pets ( and some of the greedy breeder here in Malaysia) in order to 'racun' new buyer how easy it is to take care of SG.
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cause the vet in the video said it was okay.
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Can I feed him with veg and fruits for the first few days?
cant get the pellets and the liquid food so soon
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 6 2010, 05:17 PM)
cause the vet in the video said it was okay.
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Can I feed him with veg and fruits for the first few days?
cant get the pellets and the liquid food so soon
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dude..i can upload a video saying that serving grapes and chocolate is good for glider too..and claim its from the vet..

do u want too??

yr mind s on the pellet food kan? always wan the easy way..

explain to u several time but degil better don't come here for advise ler..
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cause ive been looking around google and stuff.
you guys ask me to research
then when i ask questions
you guys say stuff like that
i mean seriously
if you dont wanna help why even reply.
its called a sugar glider thread for a reason.
ffs
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 6 2010, 05:24 PM)
cause ive been looking around google and stuff.
you guys ask me to research
then when i ask questions
you guys say stuff like that
i mean seriously
if you dont wanna help why even reply.
its called a sugar glider thread for a reason.
ffs
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when the reason is clear , then we will highlight it here..

simple as

u go doing the research, found something ..come here, and we explain that the research u found is totally fake and not good for yr glider.
why? because we know and we share useful information to new owner.Don't want them to come back later crying their suggie is dead..

if don't want to help, i wont be one of the first to response to you ler..


Once again, pellet if NOT staple food for SG.Its just another propaganda by greedy seller in order to persuade ppl to buy sugar glider at impulse.

Pocket™pets from US have been known for doing this by;

1.created many websites that gives wrong information about SG.

2.Uploading wrong info on Youtube , promoting pellet foods and promoting how easy it is..yeas, they put people on the vid act like a vet..

and all the reason above will leads buyer to pocketpets in US for an impulse buying


several massbreeder here in Malaysia have exploited the same method too.
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so can i feed them veg and fruits for bout a week before i get a the Bugsy™ HPW™ Starter Kit?

since pellets are not staple
its only for treats?
how many times per week?
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QUOTE(Snowguy2068 @ Sep 6 2010, 05:40 PM)
so can i feed them veg and fruits for bout a week before i get a the Bugsy™ HPW™ Starter Kit?

since pellets are not staple
its only for treats?
how many times per week?
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pellet foods like bugsy happy glider chicken protein, i usually put in the cage in a metal bowl for 2 days then i changed it..up to Sg want to eat it or not..


for night,

i served

1 portion of fruits+1portion of fruits+vege+HPW

*Bugsy™ HPW™ Starter Kit to be serve along with fruits and vege, okay?


Yes, even though before u can get the Bugsy™ HPW™ Starter Kit, still can feed your Sg with fruits and vege..


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okay
thanks
and for the aircon room.
what temp should it be set to
and should i carry it in a bonding pouch to
makan,home,mall or park?

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