Hello everyone...I'm have been following this thread from the beginning and ended up with 7 sugies in my home( I don't know how this happened)and coming soon - a twins (two visible movement in the mother's pouch). My questions are:-
1. Where can I purchase a wombaroo possom milk replacer?
They are out of stock or unavailable in some petshop....!
2. Why is the female not coming out of the pouch except the male,
and I have to feed her (by hand) just to make sure she's
getting enough nourishments for herself and her joeys. Am I
doing it wrongly?

Thanks you guys for the informations and Eric138 Sir, for your info, I'm not trying to handraise the joeys, I just want to keep it for an emergency case only....(just incase the mother rejects her joeys)
Ooo..yueyi5730, what type of protein food do you recommend me, other than superworms , HPW ( I use 2 High Protein Supplement + 1 Bee Pollen ), crickets, grasshoppers, silkworms pupae and mealworms ( live and canned food from Exoterra)..? Am i overfeeding them because I went to see Dr Jenny in the early June to have them all deworming, she got a shock and surprised because the male (Peanut) does not have a bald spot on his head eventhou his nearly 2 years of age and weigh 107 grams while Mia is 89 grams. For your information when i first bought them from the petshop he had a bald spot (not so handsome at that time) and the shop owner only fed them apples and mealworms only......

Yes sirry..bald spot on his head . Well lucky me, all my male gliders does not have bald spot on their head. Eeowh...they look not so handsome but really cute
Eric these are my gliders infos:-

Peanut (M), D.O.A. : 17/12/2009
Mia (F), D.O.A. : 17/12/2009
Apple (M), D.O.A. : 28/12/2009
Gizmo (M), D.O.A. : 28/12/2009
Bella (F), D.O.A. : 28/12/2009
Bell (F), D.O.A. : 30/04/2010
Kiwi (F), D.O.A. : 16/06/2010

Kiwi is the youngest and the tiniest cause, when I first bought her, she was 2 months old and was quietly eating a small slice of an apple. I couldn't resist looking at her....all alone in the cage because I remembered this one incident this joey about 2 months old, self-mutation it's tail until you can see it's bone, it was hideous and terrible. The shop keeper did ask me to buy it before(before it self-mutated), since he knows that I have some sugies at home. I feel pity and sorry for all the joeys (especially the under-age ones) and I have come across a petshop in Johore, who wants to become a breeder (about 10 small cages(1x1x1.5 with coconut shells each) but he didn't even give his gliders any food and water.....they were all dehydrated and straving(all 20 of them)....
I can't keep rescuing them every time I feel pity or sorry for them. I'm not a breeder myself and I have three moveable 3 feet cages and a 4 feet cage at home already. My mom already nagging me that our house is turning into a small zoo cause I keep them all in the house.

Thanks yueyi5730 for your advice, not to mention Eric and others, I certainly will take good care of all my sugies after doing a lot of research, reading and following this sugie's thread, I definitely....definitely will....!

Hi guys...I have a heart-breaking news ...my mom lost my beloved Bell and Bella( in bonding pouch) this early morning at the bus station while she was getting off the bus to transit to another bus...she was carrying 4 bonding pouches and because she got a lot of things to carry by hand and also was in a hurry (because the bus driver asked everyone to change the bus to another bus). She only realized that one of the pouch was missing when she wants to take a taxi, and another thing is, she came to visit me since there's no one who can take care of my gliders...so.., she brought them along with her. I cried this whole day until my eyes so puffy..Even though my mom has bought me another two joeys to replace my Bell and Bella (and she named them Bell and Bella) they are not the same because each glider has their own personality.........!!!
BELL and BELLA............

My teardrops can't stop rolling down my cheek, when ever I think of them...Hopefully someone found them and take good care of them for me. There's a lot going on in my mind right now, all the horrible thing that could happened to them..I pray to 'GOD' hopefully it is not true or could not happened...!!
These bound to happen to those unfortunate one, in one way or another and I have to accept it......because that's human nature in/of life(for the unfortunate ones ) that is....... STILL....WHY....!!

Thanks you guys..I feel a little bit comfort and a bit relief after reading your comments, and glidermama......, I already called the bus company to check weather my pouch is in the bus but they said they didn't find it. Like you said before, maybe someone found them and took them home......
My mom feels really..really bad for abandoning them (without realizing) and then, have the time to go and buy another (that same morning)....to replaced the lost. And now she's the one who carries the pouch to bond with them cause, they keep crabbing all the time. I will be coming back this weekend and hope to bond with them. It will be hard at first because I have to start all over again and not to mention........the time.

"REALLY" ......what are we supposed to do 'IF' any of our gliders are seriously sick...I remembered like my dear Gizmo was having trouble moving both of it's hind legs, I thought that he had this HLP but Dr. Jenny examined him and said that it wasn't....he had a muscle tear and gave a tablet which was cut into 4 and to be given once at night only. Every night I had to crushed the tablet to make it into powder, mix it with water and fed him with syringe.....and today, Gizmo is able to move, jumped and climbed after the treatment. I never tried Dr. Yeoh before and I don't know where his/her clinic is (location) , because...Dr. Jenny's name was highly recommended by exotic pet owner's especially sugar gliders...

Hi guys......I just bought a digital scale and my mom and I just weighing our babies. Peanut is 142 grams..Mia with twins (the size of 5 cents each in the pouch ) 92 grams..Apple is 73 grams..Gizmo 52 grams...our new babies Bell 35 grams and Bella 37 grams and also Kiwi 38 grams. We think that Kiwi is having problem cause her tail is not fluffy even though she have great appetite (maybe worm) and I was thinking to bring them 3 for check up (Kiwi/Bell/Bella). Maybe I will try to see Dr. Prem cause the clinic is quite near from my place (driving to PJ) and YES we have a new addition in our sugies family TWILEENA..she's about 2.5 years and weigh 87 grams. She was given to my mom since her twins/mate Damian got lost on 25/07/10...my friend ( a member of this thread) and could not bear to loose another one, so...he ask my mom to take care for him. My mom is quite keen on exotic animals herself.

Hello everyone....We need someone's advise regarding sugar glider's weight. Ever since we bought the digital scale we have been monitoring and recording their weight. Our Peanut's weight increases by 6 grams (142grams -> 148grams) Twileena's 5 grams (87grams -> 92 grams). Mia's weight increase by 3 grams ONLY (92 grams -> 95 grams). Apple and Gizmo their weight are the same as before. As for the growing joeys increases by 3 - 5 grams within 4 days.

My first question is ....
1. Is Peanut overweight...he is very hyper active little guy.. and we do provided them.... each cages with wodent wheels, cage accessories and toys except for the 4 feet cage which we installed 2 wodent wheels in it for them.

2nd question.......
Ever since Mia's pregnant , we only use suggie hammock instead of the sleeping pouch for them to sleep in and her nails always got caught tangled in it. I'm afraid to clipped her nails due to her pregnancy n lactation and we don't want her to be stressed out. Any suggestions on how or there's a way to clipped her nails without stressing her...???

3rd. question.......
Is it true that we have to provide a large hammock in the middle of the cage ( 3' cage) to prevent joeys from falling and no wodent wheel during the pregnancy....If there is no wheel, how does the male does his exercise activities..??!!

TQ.

Allenna's mom

Thank you Eric138 for your fast reply.

Peanut shared Mia's HPW added with some milk replacer which was recommended by an experience breeder since at that time the Wombaroo Possum Milk Replacer was out of stock. My daughter bought two packets from a PET LOVERs Shop for emergency....just in case the mother glider rejects her joeys.

She did made HPW with the combination of 2 packets of High Protein Supplement + 1 packet of Bee Pollen mixed with Sweet Meadow Manuka Honey and 3 eggs....( we used good grades eggs with omega) which was to be shared with the young joeys and the mixture was finished early before my daughter's next visit home.

I did tried to call her on her handphone but couldn't reached her and so....I made the HPW by myself with the combination of 1 packet of High Protein Supplement (which was wrong measurement - I should have used 2 packets instead of 1 packet) + 1 packet of Bee Pollen mixed with Sweet Meadow Manuka Honey and 3 eggs AND since Mia was doing fine lactating her joeys and the milk replacer was about to expire next year...WELL, I thought I should used before it expired and added it into the HPW (since I have read an article in the internet that we can mix it with HPW for lactating mother gliders).

Other than the HPW, I also gave them various types of fruits, green veggies, plus suitable supplements & treats. Live crickets, mealworms and superworms AND even from canned once a while for them.
Fresh drinking water everyday (treated water only) and even freshly squeezed fruit juice for them even for myself also.....

Keeping them as pet have changed my life style.... buying a lot of fruits and vegetables to be kept in the fridge all the time (instead of junk or fast food normally) and eating healthy.

p/s for the 4 feet cage we also provided them cage accessories, toys and also real jungle vines for them to climb up and down the cage., other than 2 wodent wheels.

Allenna's Mom

Hi guys.........I'm not under anybody's side what so ever just want to correct the situations about the glider ONLY....I have seen and even hold the sugar glider and the sugar glider is a female and she's actually has a black patch nose on it's face also on it's chest too and she's in healthy conditions. I have been to this fellar's place before ever since there's were a lot of commotions about him in this thread before and I brave myself to go and visit him. Well...... I have seen his place and his gliders......NO COMMENTS from me cause I am not the kind of a person who likes to tell tales OR bad mouth about someone or anyone. So don't judge me JUST because I have been to the fellar's place.......

What I meant was........the sugar glider was born naturally looking like that......GENETICALLY different by it's colour...sometimes I found really hard to explain to people even the easiest explanation....I ONLY want to explain what I saw with my two eyes only. WELL....it's up to your own JUDGEMENTATIONS.........I have already explained the situation and have we ever wonder why they are different sizes or hair colours.....why there are big trees and small trees......look around us there's a lot of going on in our every day's life..sometimes we have the answer and sometimes we don't.....ONLY GOD KNOWS..!!!

THANKS.......really appreciate on your comments. I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable....my mistake by typing the wrong words/sentences.......we can asked a veterinarian or an exotic animal doctor on this matter or any experience breeders who can explain it or anyone.......hmmmm..interesting.... never cross my mind on glider's colouration before until today....need more research on these........

To think of it.....I think my Kiwi looks different from other sugies I have come accross cause some of my friends said that she's a pure 'Black Beauty' EVEN myself having difficulty believing it even though she has really dark black fur and face even down under her chin and have dark smokey chest EXCEPT the nose........

I know that your intention was good for the sake of the glider....I just want to explained that I have seen that glider before (she really look like a cute puppy with that black nose of her's)......IF only I have used the word PIGMENTATION....(never cross my mind of the word at that time) AND THANKS Kelvin_faye for your explanations ....... again....I apologize for my actions to those who feel offended with my sentences or words..SORRY YOU GUYS and by the way I only been to the fellar's place once only... curiosity to see his place

Hi....Just want to ask about this food supplement that my mom have bought recently at a popular pet shop which she saw on the shelf of the store and she even asked the shop assistant about it it. She haven't gave it to the gliders yet cause she wanted to asked my permission first weather it is save to give them. My mom likes to try everything those are eatable to the gliders at any available pet shops, she even gave them dried roses and rose hip to them once a while as a treat.

She said that at the label stated Honey-egg Food supplement which the ingredients are :- egg , honey, soya meal, white millet and niger seed... to be sprinkle on the food.

If it is save then I can inform her that it's aye ok to give it to them.....

Thanks for the information ......I already informed my mom not to give it to the gliders and also asked her weather she have ever given the gliders any green pellets with the shape of fish or pellets using Kangaroo and rice and she replied that she have not and never seen one of those before......AND by the way, the twins joeys are doing fine. My mom said that she can see two tiny tails sticking out of the mom's pouch and sometimes one of the joeys came out of the pouch with it's mouth still sucking it's mom's nipple. They are quite big with no fur on them ( my mom said that the skin feels like soft rubber ) and the mom can hardly move with that enormous belly and she's always like to lay on her back...is that normal.....My mom calculate that the twins will be oop by the middle of November or maybe sooner......

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I can't wait to come back to my home this Friday from JB.......2 weeks Hari Raya break and can't wait to see the twins also.......

Hi guys...I just bought an instant HPW( a well know product...B***y)) from a well known pet shop....when I open the packet the ingredient looks very odd...not like before..this packet/product is from Australia not from USA..and it's looks like the ingredient yellowish and like mold like powder...Is that normal..???? I'm afraid to give it to my gliders....

Hi Kelvin...Im sorry cause I'm having problem loading pictures from my handphone to the computer...arrrrggghhh!!!!
Cause I normally give instant HPW to my gliders but this time the ingredient look like it is spoil.....like moldy powder...macam berkulat..that's why I rather not give it to my glider before conformation....They haven't eaten HPW today cause the pet shop is out of stock already.....that was the last packet that I bought..

Hi Eric...I know it is yellowish but this yellowish really bright yellowish.. macam a bit basah and moldy...macam berkulat la..tak macam biasa keadaannya....that's why I just want to know is it normal ...sorry I have tried to download the picture but failed.....that is why I asked because I don't want all of my sugies nanti sakit perut pulak...stomachache....a big..big problem....