http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/134543

'The government has money for a new mosque in Putrajaya, new Parliament and new palace but they don't have the money to give scholarships for students who scored straight As.'

Addition: Warisan Negara?

Addition 2(3.12.2010): Oil price forever increase.

Addition 3(17.07.2012): MAS & Tajudin Ramli anyone?

INGATLAH! MAHASISWA/MAHASISWI PENCETUS PERUBAHAN NEGARA!

This post has been edited by Hidan: Jul 17 2012, 09:35 PM

scholarship and ptptn are 2 different things

scholarship is free
ptptn is loan

no need to pay...

jangan pwn orang terlalu awal di pagi hari

kesian dia

the one who gets ptptn should repay back the loan la.. ..

RM50 per day also cannot pay ar..??..i wonder la, they make sad face during applying the loan, after get the money, gone already...

what type of attitude is this..

i tot no pay means block from going oversea?

that's why. ada duit upgrade computer/gadgets/buy cars/motorcycles/expensive stuffs, but don't have money to pay back loan

That's the problem. But with so much waste from gov, why not all join the fun?

This post has been edited by Hidan: Jun 15 2010, 09:02 AM

join the fun of being blocked by going overseas?

ah long ada....
y must apply ptptn?

Join fun by going against the block overseas ruling. Some demo here and there should do the trick.

lol....worse is once they get the loan, they buy car...and then ask parents for money...

lucky i didnt take ptptn..coz they offer me to little...10k.

gila lu. rm50 per day means rm1500 per month? then mau makan apa?

oh sounds easy, so u will lead?

wakakaka..wrong typo la bro.. rm50 per month.. ...lucky i'm not ptpn holder.. ...

should not pay back liao... so that a lot of future student cannot get PTPTN. And their parent will vote for opposition because opposition will say that there's no PTPTN because BN use all money to build palace and new parliament... and squandered all nation's wealth...

Thanks BN for giving opportunity to Pakatan to rule Malaysia...

....you taking a loan and not paying... really a piece of xxxxx. Fill in the xxxxx yourself. No wonder Malaysia is still having the 3rd world mentality.

A borrow X money
X refuse to give back because he saw A waste his $$$ gambling.

what kind of logic is this?

Its like saying "let's rape that slut coz she aint virgin in the first place".

Stoopid borrowers. dont borrow if you dont intend to give back. No use study when the basic morality is already f*ked up

Every holder has a role to play. A payment to PTPTN is a payment to BN. Remember Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

TS bebal already

Yep.. by continuous DEFY/REFUSE paying back whats borrowed and expect the government NOT to take action = stupid. I hope those defaulters go to jail if they continue like this.

Of course not. You think I cannot telan $$$ like them?

lets borrow money from TS and pay him back RM1 a month

boleh bayar ikut mampu..

around 100 per month..still can ma..
not RM50 per days..

we used the money for get the diploma/degree..
with that we have a jobs..

jobs give us money..if dont get the loan..we cant further our study..
not all Malaysian parent can pay their children u fee..

PTPTN got thier money from EPF..from our money if u all already work lar..n include our parent money..
if we not paid our loan..what happen to EPF??what happen to our brother/sister that want further their study??

PTPN is not gomen..back 10&15 ago..it so hard to futher study cuz dont have any loan that can help student..

only excellent student with good luck manage get loan/scholarship for study..

This post has been edited by fhatz: Jun 15 2010, 09:20 AM

aparaaa



u shud be lucky PTPTN didnt act like bank or ah long

even if u pay RM100 per month they still accept

if bank, how..??

if ah long, how...???

then when pakatan take over..they will abolish PTPTN so that BN wont have chance to come back....then everyone cannot study...then we will become high income economy with low education and with high income/education divide..

i lol'd to those who take ptptn

so hidan, hw much u owe ptptn money ahs

When things become better with less wastage from the top, I am confident that more ppl will pay back.

all Malaysian want everything free..

This post has been edited by fhatz: Jun 15 2010, 09:19 AM

What rubbish are you talking in the 1st place? Someone being an arsehole doesn't mean you have to follow. That is why the chain will never break with such a person like you.

For my own opinion... the best thing to differentiate whether some 1 is a successfully man or a scumbag... its purely depends on his "steadylity"...

If you're not steady.. u are just another scumbag...

Pay back what you owe!!!

"new mosque in Putrajaya, new Parliament and new palace"

if dont have all this..all malaysian said gomen stupid..dont know to manage country to develop country and lots2 of others thing..

gomen can give all thing subsidy like foot,water,electric,loan study,low tax..
malaysia memang boleh..

tapi sampai bila???

how country to develop??

if dont have any new thing like iskandar project,cyberjaya,north msc..
where gomen can get money..

the less we pay per month . the more they untung lehs. The money u owe em if its alot and u paying back little by little . 20 years also cannot settle ur loan and jus interest rate itself increasing the amount of money u owe em every year . imagine this you owe ptptn 60k. and every month u only pay RM 100. cannot lahs wei. your jus paying for the interests they charge u only instead of the so called settling ur ptptn.

This post has been edited by xiong: Jun 15 2010, 09:32 AM

alangkah bagusnya if PTPTN let us pay what we borrow. eg. borrow RM 10K, pay back RM 10K without interest

Yeah all those guys at the top enjoy looking down on us peasants.

the moral story is,

"pandai pinjam, pandai-pandai la bayar balek.."

It's only for a moment that we don't pay back. We won't pay back until Pakatan comes into power.

typical loser talk. During applying for PTPTN. behave like puppies all goodie-goodie. When its time to pay back.... cry foul "I'm the victim". Thats why some people are worse than peasants and deserves to be in such status. Lack of integrity and can't be trusted.

correct..but

bayar ikut kemampuan..if u cant afford more that that to cover other things like ur iphone/pc 2-3k/used civic/house loan..
100/50 also ptpn can accept..but like what u said lar..20 years also cant settle the loan..

Biasa lar bro..

pandai pinjam pandai bayar la

does that mean u plan not to go oversea?

+1

aku pun harap macam itu..but this is like processing money..

PTPN loan from EPF..the transaction manage by them..their want "untung"..most of student pay back 100 per month..

borrow 30-40k..how long PTPTN can settle with EPF side..this interest cover all this thing..

PTPN is not gomen..

kesian ts. no money to pay ptptn eh. internet free from mcD yes?

bodoh kalau bayar

btw,hutang tetap kena bayar...mana mau lari....

Mana Boleh dude later got blacklist kenot go Oversea

of course u have to pay back la.....if all ppl sudah pinjam dun 1 pay back then how about the other that's really need $ to further study....think about others, not only urself...and the future...dun act like idiot.....for me...

If want dun return... do it the proper way lah like me. I also never pay back 1 cent pun\

Just get ijazah kelas pertama.. So easy get nia? =X

giving money to built bulding, bulding wont run

but giving money to shit like u ppl, u ppl will run.

bro, i thiknn no more alrdy, coz my frds 1st class aso..but he still has to pay back the $$ ...

yalor, i was thinking 'still got meh?"

rumah - mcD only. passpork not required . Lapa balik mama papa suap.

thought budget last year, say this year got? i also not sure since it not concern me. But last year definitely dun haf

Defaulters will have 1,001 excuses not to pay. Later they say the building wont run but will collapse (waste $$). Later again they will say.. building is dead.. wont generate income but incur cost. Finally they might say.. I am still alive.. as long as I am (read: Don't assasinate me).. you fellas at PTPTN might have *chance* in the future to get my eer your $$$$ back...................... nananananananananana.........

When PTPTN tried to trace these people.... all they get are the same source... www.lubangcacing.com.my

dun wan!!

Don't pay cannot leave Malaysia. Big deal. You think Malaysia small like Singapore?

TS already has solution:-

It's not often the rakyat has the power to make kerajaan worried. This is the second best thing next to election.

b this PTPN give a 1st class student loan as scholarship..
but seen 5 years back..lots of people not paid the loan back..

thier cant afford this kind of thing anymore..but i think their planning to make this scholarship again..cuz my younger cousin told me bout this went he applied PTPTN..

+999



if u want to go oversea..that mean u have lots of money..that is easy part of explaining..

yalor..i think no more alrdy ...coz i read about this PTPTN news last yr...many ppl refuse to pay back....so maybe they cancel alrdy ...

This post has been edited by owenfooa: Jun 15 2010, 10:05 AM

BTw, I Forget to add a possibly legal action by PTPTN and get dragged to court . End up pay more

Malaysian Mentality: wait for discount.

If got court case.. hide the Vios in frends house, spend $$ hire relatives ,take bus to court and *sob sob* in front of judge saying how life is hard for them.

For 2010 ptptn 1st class loan become scholarship. For 2011, I don't know. I think cancel.

i think gorvement alrdy very good...after u graduated, they still gv u 1 yr to seek for a job...and after tat u oli pay RM 50 per month...like the previous forummer said, got $ upgrade pc...y dun have $ to pay back ...a high end pc, u can clear at least 3 yrs ptptn loan or more...

aparaa


car loan u can afford even though the interest is higher

house loan u can afford even though the interest is higher

& both has fixed figure payment per month


ur education loan u cannot afford even though it didnt force u to pay whatever amount u can...???


damn sellfish *******

blah lah!

Until those who grad in 2008(who takes 4years degree, means take ptptn on 2004) are eligible to convert loan to scholarship

I think i see it somewhere in budget abt this scholarship thing, but it did not specifically mention ptptn

myb u can ask PTPN bout this..
but if u ask them..
sure u kena tangkap tak bayar lagi if let say u cant get scholarship..

hm.. true also.. working for mnc travel like 200+days a year, although can say expenses covered by company but still means they are working, means got money payback...

well, for those debtors of ptptn (except those who able to waive it due to 1st class honours before year 2006) , don't tell me you really did not pay 1 cents to PTPTN and willing to sacrify when your company i.e. Intel, Agilent, HP, IBM, Schlumberger, Hallburton, Shell, Exxon wants to send you overseas for work/training --- LOL

many of those just come out and brag brag brag say I'M NOT PAYING! but paid and go one round the globe and back. it could be include TS & gogo2.

yes, PTPTN will give 1% interest instead of normal 3%, but it takes them a very long time to implement

lol later he cut from ur epf.. or cut from ur parent epf.. then u become a bodo itself...

Contrary to what many people say, not many PTPTN holders use their money for luxuries or FD. All of it went to semester fees, food and books.

This post has been edited by Hidan: Jun 15 2010, 10:19 AM

except the local uni students. dapat saja ptptn, new handphone! new graphics card! new processors! XD

those who really used the ptptn for the needs of their studies are the ones who never complained about paying back and know their responsibilities of being a borrower therefore they pay back when they managed to secure a job or started making money...

usually those who complained/whining are the ones who use their money for luxuries or FD...and most cases got kicked out/drop out 2-3 semester shy from graduating to pursue their dreams of being rich via MLM...

like my frienz..hahaha..im study in private college..the loan is just using for fee..i still remember just can buy 1 2 books only/some personal stuff like new pants n shirt..for my self juz makan besar only for a while..after that..maggie is my best frienz..

If *example only* TS and those folk who borrow Ptpn loan does not want pay up. Fine . Then at lest brave enuf to face consequences

But TS sure provided one of the lamest excuse ever. Just because the one borrowing doing a "reckless" thing, its ok for the borrower NOT to pay back.

If like this, I try borrow $$$ from a generous man. When he ask for his $$$ back, I tell him he is living a bad lifestyle like smoking and clubbing. I will do him a favor by not repaying the $$ I owed him. LOL!

Well Msian economy getting bad. Many ppl will jump ship including defaulters. If defaulters dont pay up then they cannot jump ship. Well its their call.

since u r not using "we", means u either not loan from ptptn , or u will/are paying back...?

i'm not surprise the one that borrow from ptptn and not giving back its those rich ******* sitting on the chair goyang kaki

pay the ptptn so that another pockets will be filled, eg: PKFZ pepel pockets

You mean, Datuk Dr Wee Ka Siong & Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat's?

I tot cainis ppl honest/good/kind and only meleis do bad things in malaysia. You must be liar!! i don't believe you. /k/ said cina bagus, maybe paling jahat pun mabuk2 naik vios then langgar ppl.. must be true.

sure must pay

This post has been edited by defdekz: Jun 15 2010, 01:24 PM

PTPTN now hire Zaid Ibrahim & Co to sue loan defaulters/jus now at court saw piles of the files.

This post has been edited by nestleomega: Jun 15 2010, 01:39 PM

UNLESS you are paid RM100 per day, i think the amount that you mention here is more than what a fresh grad can afford to even survive

TS....why do u stop there?....u should not pay the tax also that include road tax etc...

Ppl u got it wrong.
In the society there are many race.
E.g C,M and I..
However.
Politician is another race.
There are many races holding political ranks but all of them truly involvd in corruption..
Not matter they are C,M or I, they are *ssholes.
Don't compare races.

Next time scold Politicians.
Not according to races.

From common moral sense, you borrow you pay.

From legal sense, you borrow you pay.

From religion sense, you borrow you pay.

If you tak mampu pay because no job/no work, that is tough luck. If you do not want to pay because the sun rising from the east, because the moon is round, or how the government is wasting the money, you are at best, closely resemble scum. Do not use any sort of excuse for your selfishness, as it only make you look more selfish.

ya la.. if like that, BN also the one is also giving the loan,must pay back la.... aiyo.. da pinjam, byr la.. scholarship is diff.. it is like bagi duit buta2 je.. ptptn must pay..

RM50 per day = RM 1500 per month...even my father also cannot pay back that amount of money la...how can fresh grad affords that?swt...=.=

u borrow u pay

that forumer mistake lor..if like that sure nobody wanna to loan with PTPTN..

TS is pretty stupid.. u borrow money and dont want to pay back? Sound selfish and stupid. Why justify your action by saying paying back ptptn will payment to BN? PTPTN is gov money, tax money which means all malaysians money, so when u are not paying, it means u owe all of US. and u trying to BETRAY US.

Dulu sebelum dpt ptptn, merayu2, menangis2, mintak keluar surat khabar buat cerita, now dah dpt duit, dah fail, taknak bayar. BANGANG!