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post Jun 10 2010, 09:19 PM, updated 16y ago

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The cases against this particular shop are as follow:

Case 1:

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Case 2 (Link):

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The details are below:

Person complained : Louiss

Store location: F33, Ground Floor, CMC Centre(Giant), Jalan Cerdas, Taman Connaught, Cheras, 56000, Kuala Lumpur.

Their number: 016-2332426




They are offering service in this this thread

Shop Picture:
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Please be warned before proceed to receive any service from this particular shop because they are not authorized service provider despite their Apple trademarked logo.

They claimed that Apple logo cannot be trademarked so they are perfectly legal to use the logo.


I do hope that moderators will not delete or move this thread so that other members could share the service quality of other stores.

This post has been edited by Moonflown: Jun 20 2010, 03:23 PM
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post Jun 10 2010, 10:24 PM

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woohoo!!
always go there since near to my house + im the mayor on that place (foursquare tongue.gif )
perhaps later on i will snap the shop picture and post it here
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post Jun 10 2010, 10:28 PM

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Thanks for the effort lenanza.
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if i not mistaken i see this person thread in lawyat here.. probably u can go pm or find out the post and ask regrading problem issue.. good luck dude
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post Jun 11 2010, 03:41 AM

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this is the very reason why when buying such an expensive device, we have to make sure we obtain a legit Warranty. A full proof warranty is worth much more than a rm100 discount on the phone.

take it as a lesson, and hope others dont make such mistakes.

*alot of sellers in sg.wang plaza and other hp shops cause similar issues to their customers when it comes to phone problem and warranty claims as well.
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post Jun 11 2010, 11:50 AM

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i think iMalaysian's reputation is clearly mentioned at this very old thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/947766
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post Jun 11 2010, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ Jun 11 2010, 03:41 AM)
this is the very reason why when buying such an expensive device, we have to make sure we obtain a legit Warranty.  A full proof warranty is worth much more than a rm100 discount on the phone.

take it as a lesson, and hope others dont make such mistakes.

*alot of sellers in sg.wang plaza and other hp shops cause similar issues to their customers when it comes to phone problem and warranty claims as well.
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I think you misunderstood it. I have a legit warranty from Singtel Singapore.
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 11 2010, 11:52 AM)
I think you misunderstood it. I have a legit warranty from Singtel Singapore.
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Ic. Why didn't you just purchase a local unlocked set instead?(from Maxis)
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post Jun 11 2010, 11:56 AM

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It's the same reason as other people who bought from Singapore. That time 3G is still not available in Malaysia and I get the chance to buy it from SG when I'm there.
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@moonflown
you sent it through a 3rd-party shop, which has no authority to claim warranty on your behalf.

Please do remember that *any time* you send your stuff for warranty claim, to have a detailed paper trail, so you can trace it in the future.
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post Jun 11 2010, 12:27 PM

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Yup I know but I have no other choices so I have to ask them and they seems to be professional at first.

I know my carelessness here but I'm just warning fellow members about that shop. So please be kind enough to see thing from customer perspective rather than blaming me when the shop is the main problem. thanks
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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jun 11 2010, 12:09 PM)
@moonflown
you sent it through a 3rd-party shop, which has no authority to claim warranty on your behalf.

Please do remember that *any time* you send your stuff for warranty claim, to have a detailed paper trail, so you can trace it in the future.
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Hi xaw5126. I have sufficient respect for you and your inputs here given your exposure in an Apple related organization but from my personal experience with SingTel sets for warranty claims, they are different from our local telcos here. No documents are required by anyone who brings a unit in. They just verify through the online system and if there is no irregularity, a replacement unit is given on the spot, provided of course they have any available.

So, anyone can send in whether he/she is the 'registered' owner. But you are absolutely right in pointing out the paper trail that must be there for future reference.

Cheers mate.
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thanks for the respect sweat.gif
perhaps I was unclear.
I meant to say that shop in question should not be providing a paid service to claim warranty in this manner. there's a risk of confusion.
cos when SingTel provides the set, they assume the person accepting it is the owner. So if there's any disputes, and our friend here goes back to Singtel, there's the risk of further complications.

I personally would have recommended TS to courier the phone via FedEx or UPS to a friend in Singapore, rather than trust some handphone shop (which are notorious for all kinds of shady stuff)
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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jun 11 2010, 01:40 PM)
@PeeEl
thanks for the respect sweat.gif
perhaps I was unclear.
I meant to say that shop in question should not be providing a paid service to claim warranty in this manner. there's a risk of confusion.
cos when SingTel provides the set, they assume the person accepting it is the owner. So if there's any disputes, and our friend here goes back to Singtel, there's the risk of further complications.

I personally would have recommended TS to courier the phone via FedEx or UPS to a friend in Singapore, rather than trust some handphone shop (which are notorious for all kinds of shady stuff)
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You don't get much argument from me on that but suffice it to say that if you want to entrust someone/party with the task of such a responsibility on such a 'valuable' item, it should be to somebody you know or at least with some recommendation from someone you know. So, yes, you are right in pointing out what you have suggested.

FYI, in my case I got someone(friend) to get it to another friend in JB to bring it across for the claim.

But I hasten to add that there are still many out there who think with their heart and not their head. tongue.gif
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post Jun 11 2010, 05:31 PM

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Well that is why I will most probably wait a few more months for local release since then. But this shop has exceptional bad reputation and hope fellow members will pay attention to it.
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post Jun 11 2010, 05:54 PM

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I got con by this shop iphone case rm250 then I run
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post Jun 11 2010, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Zackry @ Jun 11 2010, 05:54 PM)
I got con by this shop iphone case rm250 then I run
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Give more solid proof dude. Dont just drop this statement and a full stop. Or you are trying to add up fire? Its getting hot man.
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QUOTE(Zackry @ Jun 11 2010, 05:58 PM)
im gonna ddos his site !!!
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dude if you dont contribute and just whinning here better stop posting, or 1 liner posting, this is not kopitiam. if you really have solid proof then we all are willingly to listen. i hope DG will delete your 1 liner post, no offence.
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post Jun 11 2010, 07:09 PM

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I suggest you elaborate more so that other members can understand.
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post Jun 11 2010, 07:51 PM

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Done..as it was reported as well.

Guys, keep reporting and Zackry, read the iPhone subforum rules before you post: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1080223

Thank you

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I will post the shot of the price and the case .
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QUOTE(Zackry @ Jun 12 2010, 04:47 PM)
I will post the shot of the price and the case .
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Perhaps you could also snap a photo of the exact same case/product from another shop.

Just a suggestion to substantiate your claim that the case was over priced.
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he is selling Iphone 3G for RM4799 hahahahah damn funny man. Just look at his video on youtube and the comments from readers.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSi-093Y4mw


Damn funny hahahaha, feel like wanna whack kao him.

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post Jun 14 2010, 11:55 PM

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Thats the fella who denied his own mistake and blame customers instead.
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QUOTE(beetch @ Jun 14 2010, 11:38 PM)
he is selling Iphone 3G for RM4799 hahahahah damn funny man. Just look at his video on youtube and the comments from readers.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSi-093Y4mw
Damn funny hahahaha, feel like wanna whack kao him.
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Not defending him but stating a fact.....this youtube was during when the iPhone first got launched at our shores or maybe before, hence the hefty price. But yes, he is notoriously known for his antics.
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at least this message can make us aware to do business with them...
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post Jun 16 2010, 05:35 PM

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Why not someone PM him, and ask him to explain & clear out the bad name of himself?
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post Jun 16 2010, 05:48 PM

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iMalaysian has a lot of problems with customers and LYN members time and again. Thanks for the heads up anyways. I personally think people should be aware of this.

To claim for waranty or repairs, you can go to other LYN members here with better rep. Just check around.
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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Jun 16 2010, 05:26 PM)
at least this message can make us aware to do business with them...
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif anyone who google 'iMalaysian' will surely see this posting

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QUOTE(yezhacolic @ Jun 16 2010, 05:35 PM)
Why not someone PM him, and ask him to explain & clear out the bad name of himself?
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Not possible since he always deny his mistakes.
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i read his replies from another thread before

at 1st the TS (customer) was complaining abt him, but i thought well maybe there's another side of the story. probably the imalaysian guy could clear up some issues

but instead of justifying his actions, he goes on and on about wanting to sue ppl who critique his company. at that point it really doesnt matter if he's right or wrong anymore. you'd be crazy to deal with a guy with that kind of attitude +_+

we'll probably see him come up here soon haha. let's see if he learnt his lesson or not. too bad i saw an article from a newspaper (or magazine? cant remember) promoting his services around last month. haih sad.gif
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Newspaper usually charge a company when do advertise for them. Same to some food reviews on restaurants.

He'll get the consequences on what he have done when this thread gets more popular
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and i think he running hisbusinees in garale sale repairing iphone and this is his name "AppleSpecialist"..? or it was his brothers name? if the info is true TS please update at first page i think. my eldest brother also go there and i told him not to go anymore, thanks for the info TS.
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im sorry to say but y u have a singtel set iphone and u go and claim warranty with a msia telephone shop ar?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 17 2010, 02:42 PM)
im sorry to say but y u have a singtel set iphone and u go and claim warranty with a msia telephone shop ar?
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epic failed yawn.gif . instead of getting it 1 to 1 swap with Singtel, he choose to repair it with a non-apple authorized agent.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 17 2010, 02:42 PM)
im sorry to say but y u have a singtel set iphone and u go and claim warranty with a msia telephone shop ar?
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yep he apparently relied on their *courier service* to singapore.
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 17 2010, 04:39 PM)
epic failed  yawn.gif   . instead of getting it 1 to 1 swap with Singtel, he choose to repair it with a non-apple authorized agent.
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Do read properly before you jump into conclusion.

He said he will help me to "claim warranty from Singapore" and will provide proof of warranty but at the end he didn't.

Am I supposed to know that he will give me a bad service? Back to the future?

I did so because his shop looks established and he said he will provide me proof of warranty.

ALSO ADDED HIS LY ID ON THE FIRST PAGE. Thanks

This post has been edited by Moonflown: Jun 17 2010, 05:28 PM
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another feasible scenario:

"X sold Y an Australian bound iPhone and it came back faulty later.

X told Y that X will help Y to claim the warranty for a fee and will also issue a letter of warranty.

X, subsequently ran away with iPhone.

Y goes to Apple and complains.

Apple said X is not an agent and Y should have known this better (despite X's claims), whilst dealing with a non-authorised agent.

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Thanks to nokia2003 for advice.

That is why I looked for physical shop rather than a random person to decrease the risk.

I know I should be more careful. Let's hope this thread able to improve and future incidents with this particular shop.
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What a shame to local service personel. And they put such huge Apple logo and claim they are specialist... adui.
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 17 2010, 05:32 PM)
Thanks to nokia2003 for advice.

That is why I looked for physical shop rather than a random person to decrease the risk.

I know I should be more careful. Let's hope this thread able to improve and future incidents with this particular shop.
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i dont think thats an advice, its more of a repackaged version of your story mate, read between the lines. X=imalaysian/physical shop. It doesnt matter who you get, if they want to con you they would still do it evene if tehy had physical shop.
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 17 2010, 06:22 PM)
i dont think thats an advice, its more of a repackaged version of your story mate, read between the lines. X=imalaysian/physical shop. It doesnt matter who you get, if they want to con you they would still do it evene if tehy had physical shop.
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And your point is?

Like I said I'm leaving this thread for reference but not denying whether I got conned or not, so if you're still wanna go ahead with your "ahaha he got conned" attitude then go ahead.

I already admitted my mistake and who cares I got conned or not? I just wanna warn other members about that shop

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 17 2010, 06:22 PM)
i dont think thats an advice, its more of a repackaged version of your story mate, read between the lines. X=imalaysian/physical shop. It doesnt matter who you get, if they want to con you they would still do it evene if tehy had physical shop.
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Have been following this thread and even posted once. The only mileage this thread gets if it perseveres is creating awareness among forummers here, nothing else. For your recourse, which may now be too late, you should have referred to the Consumer Tribunal immediately after it happened. It is there for that exact purpose.

The ramification of course is that those who read this will not patronize his shop and hopefully they pass it on verbally and don't underestimate the power of word of mouth.
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 17 2010, 06:34 PM)
And your point is?

Like I said I'm leaving this thread for reference but not denying whether I got conned or not, so if you're still wanna go ahead with your "ahaha he got conned" attitude then go ahead.

I already admitted my mistake and who cares I got conned or not? I just wanna warn other members about that shop
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well like what PeeEl has pointed out, its best you head to the consumers tribunal and plead your case, exercise your right, although this thread serves as reminder, but you'd still need some justice on your part right? assuming you are interested that is.

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 17 2010, 05:19 PM)
Do read properly before you jump into conclusion.

He said he will help me to "claim warranty from Singapore" and will provide proof of warranty but at the end he didn't.

Am I supposed to know that he will give me a bad service? Back to the future?

I did so because his shop looks established and he said he will provide me proof of warranty.

ALSO ADDED HIS LY ID ON THE FIRST PAGE. Thanks
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how old are you ? 3 years old ? Just trust what ppl say ? Never check out properly ?


Added on June 17, 2010, 7:02 pm
QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 17 2010, 06:51 PM)
well like what PeeEl has pointed out, its best you head to the consumers tribunal and plead your case, exercise your right, although this thread serves as reminder, but you'd still need some justice on your part right? assuming you are interested that is.
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you could only do this if you have proof, etc .. receipt ? which I think TS do not have.

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moonflown, i aint judging u, just that i dun understand

did u buy the iphone from them in the 1st place?
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 17 2010, 07:01 PM)
how old are you ? 3 years old ? Just trust what ppl say ? Never check out properly ?


Added on June 17, 2010, 7:02 pm

you could only do this if you have proof, etc .. receipt ? which I think TS do not have.
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yeap, that is true also. damn hard to get those in the first place if it's already been established shady shop
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 17 2010, 07:03 PM)
moonflown, i aint judging u, just that i dun understand

did u buy the iphone from them in the 1st place?
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I bought from Singapore not from them. I only ask them to help me claim warranty since I'm not free to travel all the way down.

@Mackiddo

Ok 3 years old little kid, I did some research on forum and found some threads about them (with lots of customers) which yet have not contain/identified any negative review. And their shop is quite close to my home so I'll just visit them and give it a try.

FYI they gave me receipt for warranty claims and I returned them after I got my claimed phone. They say receipt with the person who helped him to claim warranty (might be his brother) so I can choose to use my phone first and they'll return my receipt next day.

Nevertheless, I think they lost the receipt and denied it when they could not find it to return me. And once again, you can keep all the bs with you and stop criticizing customers' carelessness when the main problem is pointed at the shop's irresponsibility/service. I'm gonna stop here to prevent anymore unnecessary flaming.

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 17 2010, 08:28 PM)
I bought from Singapore not from them. I only ask them to help me claim warranty since I'm not free to travel all the way down.

@Mackiddo

Ok 3 years old little kid, I did some research on forum and found some threads about them (with lots of customers) which yet have not contain/identified any negative review. And their shop is quite close to my home so I'll just visit them and give it a try.

FYI they gave me receipt for warranty claims and I returned them after I got my claimed phone. They say receipt with the person who helped him to claim warranty (might be his brother) so I can choose to use my phone first and they'll return my receipt next day.

Nevertheless, I think they lost the receipt and denied it when they could not find it to return me. And once again, you can keep all the bs with you and stop criticizing customers' carelessness when the main problem is pointed at the shop's irresponsibility/service. I'm gonna stop here to prevent anymore unnecessary flaming.
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you are the one who is b1tching about this all along which is clearly due to your negligence. the shop will continue to operate because of ppl like you, kan cheong king and didn't bother to go thru the proper channel/method for repairing the phone.

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 17 2010, 09:34 PM)
you are the one who is b1tching about this all along which is clearly due to your negligence. the shop will continue to operate because of ppl like you, kan cheong king and didn't bother to go thru the proper channel/method for repairing the phone.
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Mackiddo, he's doing us a favour here. not everyone know that they shouldn't trust small shops like that. as i said before, there was a news article promoting this place, saying that their service is very good and much cheaper compared to servicing from apple. with the typical malaysian mentality... buy expensive stuff but skimp on services... im not surprised if people are interested in imalaysia's services.

u know what kind of people im talking about. buy 8k macbook pro but too stingy to buy ACPP. built monster PC but use pirated windows. buy iphone 2k+ but dont even one to spend 99c on a good app and crack it instead.

im not saying TS is stupid to trust the shop or anything. as how i understand it, the shop claimed to be sort of a middleman to handle is warranty from apple singapore. yes, we still shouldn't trust such claims, but sometimes our judgement is just off. TS is kind enough to warn others here. what did you do today?
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Thanks for everyone concern. We really do our best to serve everyone equally but sometime things out of control. I already forgot how this have been happen but we really try our best to solve it. If that really our side problem, we really apologize for the mistake if came from our side. If not mistaken we have provide huge discount for repairing your refurbish iphone.

We have improve a lot since last 2 years and we didn't just doing business, we provide services. Our business growing fastest not because we doing bad thing on customers iphone or try to be dishonest, but we treat every customers as sincere as possible. Sometime the process take time, water damage, dead iphone or even iphone can't charge we make it BACK ALIVE after months of works and our money spend on the repair process. Until today, we do our job very well from changing a touch screen or any iphone parts within a day to be in 30 mins.

We have many and many impressive and lovely customers supporting us, they believe in us that will do our best to help them, we use our heart to treat our customers, we never try to change customers boards or try to cons it, even though lowyat plaza, sg wang, digital mall, the mall,etc. continue doing cons work until today and a lot of customers turn on us after so many tragedies happen on them.

If we really didn't do the great job previously, please bear we are improving very fast and do it better now and future. If TS don't mind please received our apologize and pm us how is your iphone condition are now, we can do FREE OF CHARGE changing your iphone 3G battery if it weak now or can get special discount for other items from us. We sincere awaiting for your respond and let us now how we can help you. Thank you.

p.s we have stop help anyone to claim their iphone services since singtel never give a really working refurbish set, if they give a new set I think this kind of services won't needed. We don't waste our time on singtel or any providers, we improving our skills and techniques by solve the real problems for customers.

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QUOTE(AppleSpecialist @ Jun 18 2010, 03:00 AM)
p.s we have stop help anyone to claim their iphone services since singtel never give a really working refurbish set, if they give a new set I think this kind of services won't needed. We don't waste our time on singtel or any providers, we improving our skills and techniques by solve the real problems for customers.
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I, for one don't believe you coz you are lying thru your teeth. Singtel have always honour their customer warranty. They always exchange a faulty set with a refurbished set on the spot. I myself is using Singtel set and all my colleague have their set changed 1 to 1 with refurbished set on the spot without any problem.

You are not an Apple authorized agent , called yourself a 'specialist' shakehead.gif , and those who send their set in is doing so at their own risk.

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QUOTE(AppleSpecialist @ Jun 18 2010, 03:00 AM)

p.s we have stop help anyone to claim their iphone services since singtel never give a really working refurbish set, if they give a new set I think this kind of services won't needed. We don't waste our time on singtel or any providers, we improving our skills and techniques by solve the real problems for customers.
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wow, i couldn't have phrased this sentence any better to be honest.

you deserve my admiration and a pat at the back.

because by claiming so (and subsequently telling your customers), you segregate the blame to Singtel's alleged incompetency to honour the iPhone warranty and at the same time, induce potential businesses into your own shop (since you actually provide servicing and maintenance for iPhones)

either way, it is a win win situation for you; if the customer insists on sending to Singtel, you get to pocket MYR150. but if the customer concurs with your suggestion, he/she will pay you for the services.

what a genius idea!
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This is so risky. If AppleSpecialist replace the SingTel Iphone with their own refurbished phone, the TS might lose the warranty. In Fact, the refurbished set is another set with different serial number, if TS go back to SingTel with the refurbished set, SingTel would deny the warranty as it is not the same set.

While AppleSpecialist can bring TS's IPhone to SingTel and replace a new one, and sell it as a new Iphone...What a brilliant idea !

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QUOTE(Crazyboyrs @ Jun 18 2010, 10:01 AM)
This is so risky. If AppleSpecialist replace the SingTel Iphone with their own refurbished phone, the TS might lose the warranty. In Fact, the refurbished set is another set with different serial number, if TS go back to SingTel with the refurbished set, SingTel would deny the warranty as it is not the same set.
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nope.

the apple system isn't that feeble.

they basically overwrite your previous unit and your warranty still stands at your date of purchase/activation.

besides even IF that happens, you always have receipt/proof of purchase/contract agreement to validate your claims.

so it is definitely not a problem.


Added on June 18, 2010, 10:06 amthis might be a little OT but over in australia.

iPhones obtained from the cellular carriers are actually locked to the network that you got it from.

but if you obtain a replacement set (and the previous one was unlocked by the network), apple will transfer the 'unlocking' status to the replacement set.

of course, misshapes do happen and sometimes you might have to request the network to unlock it again.

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 18 2010, 10:04 AM)
nope.

the apple system isn't that feeble.

they basically overwrite your previous unit and your warranty still stands at your date of purchase/activation.

besides even IF that happens, you always have receipt/proof of purchase/contract agreement to validate your claims.

so it is definitely not a problem.
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Your scenario is assuming AppleSpecialist did send the IPhone to Singtel, what if AppleSpecialist did not send it and simply replace TS with any refurbished Iphone.

By doing this, AppleSpecialist as the new owner will able to replace a new IPhone if they approach SingTel , right?


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Your scenario is assuming AppleSpecialist did send the IPhone to Singtel, what if AppleSpecialist did not send it and simply replace TS with any refurbished Iphone.

By doing this, AppleSpecialist as the new owner will able to replace a new IPhone if they approach SingTel , right?
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ha ha. yes, very feasible of course.

it all depends on the person actually.

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We did send it and we have giving the receipt too and compare the imei. But we really can't do anything if without the receipt. We had did our part, just the things didn't went well..

We have to move on, even this scenario how it end up, we do our best to help here.

FYI, we did our part well. Send to Singtel and claims it back. After checking and everything, he satisfy what we have done. After a day the phone have problem, and the receipt is not with us anymore but owner insist we take it. We have search all over and until today we never see it in our office.

But customer always right, if TS really few not happy with it please accept our apologize and we offer FREE OF CHARGE replacement your iphone 3G battery or grab great discount on our side for others items. We do our best to help here just let us know what we can do for you.


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I don't understand, if my Apple product *touchwood has any problem, I would bring back to authorised service centre. Why bring to these pariah places who portray a rotten apple logo in the first place?
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@M6, *touchwood if your iphone crack screen or lcd crack, apple will take at least 3 weeks to get it done. We take 30 mins to get it done.
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First of all, I'm not exaggerating any of your unsatisfied service. I still remember the person's "don't care" attitude when I said the receipt is not with me and he'll just give you a not-my-business sort of face.

I'm not sure how much you improved your service but from my past experiences there's no way I'm gonna go back to you no matter how much discount you opt to provide.

Being in service industry your should know that attitude and courtesy is one of the most important ingredient in satisfying customers yet you failed to do so. From customer's perspective I can feel your arrogance because I'm just a customer that worth losing since you claimed that you have plenty of customers.

I've paid RM150 + LCD repairing fee to you guys and I'll treat that as a lesson of not buying local warranted phone and therefore ended up with so much problems.

Noted from another members point of view, putting Apple specialist WITHOUT any Apple's authorized repair service provider clarification is a good way to "manipulate" people to think you're "authorized". I'm sure shop like this can be sued since you're using Apple's trademark on your shop sign.

I also know that everyone just wanna earn a living and my intentions are not to jeopardize your business but provide the members here some insights to my problem for their future references. They helped me on a lot of troubleshooting and I'm always glad to contribute something to this forum.

@.M6

I understand what you're saying and let's touch wood too. But unfortunately iPhone warranty is not covered internationally like iPad.

You have to send back to where you bought it from for warranty and in my case it was SG. So I have to ENTRUST someone to claim it for me. Which of course ended pretty miserably. =)

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QUOTE(AppleSpecialist @ Jun 18 2010, 03:00 AM)
Thanks for everyone concern. We really do our best to serve everyone equally but sometime things out of control. I already forgot how this have been happen but we really try our best to solve it. If that really our side problem, we really apologize for the mistake if came from our side. If not mistaken we have provide huge discount for repairing your refurbish iphone.

We have improve a lot since last 2 years and we didn't just doing business, we provide services. Our business growing fastest not because we doing bad thing on customers iphone or try to be dishonest, but we treat every customers as sincere as possible. Sometime the process take time, water damage, dead iphone or even iphone can't charge we make it BACK ALIVE after months of works and our money spend on the repair process. Until today, we do our job very well from changing a touch screen or any iphone parts within a day to be in 30 mins.

We have many and many impressive and lovely customers supporting us, they believe in us that will do our best to help them, we use our heart to treat our customers, we never try to change customers boards or try to cons it, even though lowyat plaza, sg wang, digital mall, the mall,etc. continue doing cons work until today and a lot of customers turn on us after so many tragedies happen on them.

If we really didn't do the great job previously, please bear we are improving very fast and do it better now and future. If TS don't mind please received our apologize and pm us how is your iphone condition are now, we can do FREE OF CHARGE changing your iphone 3G battery if it weak now or can get special discount for other items from us. We sincere awaiting for your respond and let us now how we can help you. Thank you.

p.s we have stop help anyone to claim their iphone services since singtel never give a really working refurbish set, if they give a new set I think this kind of services won't needed. We don't waste our time on singtel or any providers, we improving our skills and techniques by solve the real problems for customers.
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what is the point of doing that after u disappointed ur customer and cheated them ? its impossible that u dun have any record for phone u received and sent for repair.. any SMALL business will keep a record for any transaction.. just my opinion.

its like buying a car, mechanic cheated and secretly change the car engine, and then found out by owner, mech offer free service.. lolz.. no point.
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@Moonflown to let you feel like that. Luckily we able to help you change your screen (do it with cost price), at least we can make your iphone work again. But we really do our best to get the receipt for you unfortunately we don't have it on that time. Sorry we can't help you on this time but in future if you really need our repair services please let us know. Maybe we didn't really satisfy you with the claim services, but we are really did an awesome work on repairing your iphone on the spot and satisfy more than 2000's customers.

Really thank you for your reminder about this issue and we already make ourself better than other lowyat plaza or sg wang shop. Wish you guy can experience what MOST of the customers experience it.


Added on June 18, 2010, 12:42 pm@ciohbu, owner have checked their iphone and the RECEIPT provided by SINGTEL that we giving back to him, before he left, we have ask him to confirmed is that imei number and the receipt are matched. He say yes and happily left our shop. (OUR JOB IS DONE! Take the iphone claim it and past the claimed iphone back to customer.)

The next day he come back and claim the iphone touch screen is not functioning (this should happen when he check the phone, we suspect it drop before). We ask him please give us the receipt but he insist the receipt with us. This make us confuse and we definitely won't keep the owner receipt since that not belong to us.
After that we try our best to help and at last WE OFFER FREE OF CHARGE WORKMANSHIP and we only charge for the iphone touch screen cost.

WE CLAIM IPHONE FOR THE OWNER, RECEIVED IT WITH THE RECEIPT TOGETHER AND OWNER CHECK IT.

MILLIONS APOLOGIZE TO LET YOU FEEL WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU AND I WILL STOP HERE AND LET YOU GUYS JUDGE IT.

This wont stop us from be the BEST APPLE REPAIR SPECIALIST in Malaysia, we know we can do it and have a lot of customers from lowyat that recommended us, one of them is here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=34146669

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Jun 18 2010, 11:52 AM)
what is the point of doing that after u disappointed ur customer and cheated them ? its impossible that u dun have any record for phone u received and sent for repair.. any SMALL business will keep a record for any transaction.. just my opinion.

its like buying a car, mechanic cheated and secretly change the car engine, and then found out by owner, mech offer free service.. lolz.. no point.
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I agree on your analogy. A disputed case will always stay that way, not gonna argue about the receipt because at first he admit that he didn't hand me the receipt and denied it after. Somehow I felt that what they said are contradicting to what they claimed. =)


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one thing i dun understand. why is there only one copy of the receipt? shudnt the customer have one copy and you have another?

and still, you shouldnt promote your company as an Apple specialist. if you want, im pretty sure you can apply for a training program to get a certificate. im glad that at least we have a cheaper, faster (albeit understandably risky) solution for iphone owners in malaysia, but calling urself BEST APPLE REPAIR SPECIALST is too much. plus, dont u repair only iphones? if someone send u an xserve u know how?

e.g. you can self study an engineering course from books, have plenty of experience in the engineering field, but no matter how good you are, u still dont get to say u have a doctorate.

AppleSpecialist i dont doubt ur skills, n heck u may even be right n TS is wrong. but u may want to be more transparent in ur services, n keep records. it doesnt matter if a customer lose a receipt, u shud have a copy.
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I'll be really simple and clear. If TS disagrees, let him prove it.

AppleSpecialist is a self-taught expert, and we have many many entrepreneurs like this. I have good friends and colleagues like this too.
My friends however, do not claim to be Apple's partners / agents. They don't use the logo / branding to advertise their service.
So their clients are always aware that they are dealing with a third party.

My suggestion to AppleSpecialist is similar to dvlzplayground.
1. Take this as a learning experience, make sure you explain everything to your customers and only then they agree to your service.
2. Keep detailed and extensive records, 2 copies minimum of everything Soft-copy (electronic) version is the minimum, better to have signed copies of service forms.
3. Find someone else to do your PR / marketing, cos you are taking a risk when using Apple's branding.
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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jun 18 2010, 02:10 PM)
I'll be really simple and clear. If TS disagrees, let him prove it.

AppleSpecialist is a self-taught expert, and we have many many entrepreneurs like this. I have good friends and colleagues like this too.
My friends however, do not claim to be Apple's partners / agents. They don't use the logo / branding to advertise their service.
So their clients are always aware that they are dealing with a third party.

My suggestion to AppleSpecialist is similar to dvlzplayground.
1. Take this as a learning experience, make sure you explain everything to your customers and only then they agree to your service.
2. Keep detailed and extensive records, 2 copies minimum of everything Soft-copy (electronic) version is the minimum, better to have signed copies of service forms.
3. Find someone else to do your PR / marketing, cos you are taking a risk when using Apple's branding.
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That's the point I'm leaving this thread here - as a reminder/guild-lines to members.

Regarding the IMEI number, I assume Singtel will update the IMEI number when they sell iPhones as well as when they replace a refurbished phone.

That's what they (AppleSpecialist) claimed at the beginning, they said that I don't need to provide them my original receipt since each phone are registered with Singtel.
But when I have problems with my refurbished phone they said Singtel apparently didn't update their IMEI so I can't replace my faulty refurbished phone (which is quite suspicious).

Nevertheless, I'll update this thread from time to time as a guide to seek service from unauthorized shops.
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@dviz, the receipt is from singtel and not printed by us, that's why we never keep one since that HELP customers who living in Malaysia and get a runner to hand carry bring it to singapore and claimed from singtel.

When have issue a receipt that we charge for the service, and we giving back the singtel receipt to our customer.

TS said we are not responsible, I think is not our services problem,

@ The Apple Logo we have put a words "repair" and we never affiliate with apple company, since we mostly doing repair and we really doing well at the moment.

They are many shops putting this logos but delivery worst that us, changing the boards or changing all the parts and till today we still do it transparently and in future will be so.

If you guys wanna know the so called certified apple technician can repair the iphone or ipod ask them to open on the spot, we bet 9 out of 10 won't do it for you.

Even mudah.my director come to us to replace his iphone touch screen and we done it less than 1 hour. They are so many so called professional but can they deliver what we delivery to each of our customers?

We really do our best to improve our services and this kind of problem will not happen again. Thanks for TS to point this out, we are responsible for what we did so far. Even your receipt is lost we do the service for free. If you don't like us we are sorry for let you feel that, but if you said we are irresponsible, should be others word for it. Thank you again to point us what you feel, we will improve this and working hard to make sure everyone have pleasure with our services. Thank you.

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 18 2010, 02:23 PM)
That's the point I'm leaving this thread here - as a reminder/guild-lines to members.

Regarding the IMEI number, I assume Singtel will update the IMEI number when they sell iPhones as well as when they replace a refurbished phone.

That's what they (AppleSpecialist) claimed at the beginning, they said that I don't need to provide them my original receipt since each phone are registered with Singtel.
But when I have problems with my refurbished phone they said Singtel apparently didn't update their IMEI so I can't replace my faulty refurbished phone (which is quite suspicious).

Nevertheless, I'll update this thread from time to time as a guide to seek service from unauthorized shops.
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There are always 2 sides to a coin.

But the above bolded statement in itself tells who is apparently the culprit in this episode. There are lots more I can add to this saga like what can be done by either sides after the problem started and what should be done to pacify all parties concerned and what not but it will do nothing but to fuel this duel, so I won't but just hope both service providers and customers be alert and know what is the right thing to do under all circumstances.
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QUOTE(AppleSpecialist @ Jun 18 2010, 02:47 PM)
@dviz, the receipt is from singtel and not printed by us, that's why we never keep one since that HELP customers who living in Malaysia and get a runner to hand carry bring it to singapore and claimed from singtel.

When have issue a receipt that we charge for the service, and we giving back the singtel receipt to our customer.

TS said we are not responsible, I think is not our services problem,

@ The Apple Logo we have put a words "repair" and we never affiliate with apple company, since we mostly doing repair and we really doing well at the moment.

They are many shops putting this logos but delivery worst that us, changing the boards or changing all the parts and till today we still do it transparently and in future will be so.

If you guys wanna know the so called certified apple technician can repair the iphone or ipod ask them to open on the spot, we bet 9 out of 10 won't do it for you.

Even mudah.my director come to us to replace his iphone touch screen and we done it less than 1 hour. They are so many so called professional but can they deliver what we delivery to each of our customers?

We really do our best to improve our services and this kind of problem will not happen again. Thanks for TS to point this out, we are responsible for what we did so far. Even your receipt is lost we do the service for free. If you don't like us we are sorry for let you feel that, but if you said we are irresponsible, should be others word for it. Thank you again to point us what you feel, we will improve this and working hard to make sure everyone have pleasure with our services. Thank you.
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You cannot use McDonald trademarks and put noodles under it and claim it as legal since it will lead people to think it's McDonald Noodles, understand what I mean?

And please don't criticize apple certified technician service because their repairs will not void the hardware warranty but yours will. If not I guess 9 out of 10 of them must've wasted their training since you're service are far more superior than any of them.

And I do hope you stop emphasizing how many customers, big shots you served with your service. That's not the point here of showing you your "proud" service. If you were that good I'm sure there's already people who might showed some gratitude of your services here.

A business is a business, you can't tell an unsatisfied customer that you SHOULD BE satisfied because we served over 2000 satisfied customers.

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AppleSpecialist said "FYI you cannot trademark Apple"

Please understand what is trademark. The Apple Icon you using is an Apple trademark.

It is listed here: http://www.apple.com/legal/trademark/appletmlist.html

I do not know why moderators moved this to dispute. This thread is serving as a guide for iPhone forum and no longer a dispute case since I'm not requesting for any product or service refund.

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 18 2010, 03:37 PM)
You cannot use McDonald trademarks and put noodles under it and claim it as legal since it will lead people to think it's McDonald Noodles, understand what I mean?

And please don't criticize apple certified technician service because their repairs will not void the hardware warranty but yours will. If not I guess 9 out of 10 of them must've wasted their training since you're service are far more superior than any of them.

And I do hope you stop emphasizing how many customers, big shots you served with your service. That's not the point here of showing you your "proud" service. If you were that good I'm sure there's already people who might showed some gratitude of your services here.

A business is a business, you can't tell an unsatisfied customer that you SHOULD BE satisfied because we served over 2000 satisfied customers.
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+1. I'm kindly don get y he trying to state all his confidential customers. i felt sry to u for this incident


Added on June 18, 2010, 7:38 pmiphone user jus aware wif this thread and applespecialist. i jus kinda hate their kind of business operation according to ts

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jun 18 2010, 03:37 PM)
You cannot use McDonald trademarks and put noodles under it and claim it as legal since it will lead people to think it's McDonald Noodles, understand what I mean?

And please don't criticize apple certified technician service because their repairs will not void the hardware warranty but yours will. If not I guess 9 out of 10 of them must've wasted their training since you're service are far more superior than any of them.

And I do hope you stop emphasizing how many customers, big shots you served with your service. That's not the point here of showing you your "proud" service. If you were that good I'm sure there's already people who might showed some gratitude of your services here.

A business is a business, you can't tell an unsatisfied customer that you SHOULD BE satisfied because we served over 2000 satisfied customers.
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too bad you had this experience with this shop. They must be exposed for the benefit of others. Winners Mobile in Mines Shopping Fair is pretty good. Used their services recently.


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i suggest that u report this matter to 'Persatuan Pengguna Malaysia'.

Im try to help. biggrin.gif
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I'll be keeping my comments to myself from now.

however if I hear another travesty like "FYI you cannot trademark Apple", I'll won't hesitate to contact the law firm which is representing apple here (yes I know precisely which one
as I have interned in a law firm before)
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 20 2010, 01:17 PM)
I'll be keeping my comments to myself from now.

however if I hear another travesty like "FYI you cannot trademark Apple", I'll won't hesitate to contact the law firm which is representing apple here (yes I know precisely which one
as I have interned in a law firm before)
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THIS SHOP SHOULD BE CLOSED DOWN FOR

1. COPYRIGHT infringement
2. Fraud.
3. Misrepresentation.

3 counts and you're out Buddy. Why on earth are people still going to this place?? If we are in the US, they will already be booked in court.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Jun 20 2010, 01:17 PM)
I'll be keeping my comments to myself from now.

however if I hear another travesty like "FYI you cannot trademark Apple", I'll won't hesitate to contact the law firm which is representing apple here (yes I know precisely which one
as I have interned in a law firm before)
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They actually deleted that reply after I explained to them what is trademark. You guys can see that there's some "denying-mistake" characteristics bounded into the shops mentality.

Whenever there's a noticeable problem that will potentially affect their business they will just try to avoid it irresponsibly (such as deleting reply or change topic).

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THIS SHOP SHOULD BE CLOSED DOWN FOR

1. COPYRIGHT infringement
2. Fraud.
3. Misrepresentation.

3 counts and you're out Buddy. Why on earth are people still going to this place?? If we are in the US, they will already be booked in court.


Yea unfortunately Malaysia is far weaker in terms of intellectual property rights as well as copyright issues compared to US. The biggest problem is still misrepresenting themselves to potential victims of misunderstanding them as authorized store.

Will try to keep this alive to warn fellow members here. Thanks for everyone's input.

This post has been edited by Moonflown: Jun 20 2010, 02:59 PM
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feel sad for ts.. however this kind of shop should be close down or should be aware of it.. since service is so poor i think no one will willing to go anymore..
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QUOTE(tabs @ Jun 20 2010, 06:04 PM)
feel sad for ts.. however this kind of shop should be close down or should be aware of it.. since service is so poor i think no one will willing to go anymore..
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and you could void your phone warranty if send to them thinking they are authorized Apple repair centre.
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haha. for me i won't even think send it to them even their place is near by me.. bcos i believe that if they are real authorized apple repair center. their location will not be Giant Connaught in so small shopping center with such small little shop.. this kind of service cannot survive in market anymore.

next time must do more survey before sending ur phone to them.. if okay buy local set at least no so much problem even expensive 200/300 only..
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post Jun 21 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Jun 20 2010, 06:18 PM)
haha. for me i won't even think send it to them even their place is near by me.. bcos i believe that if they are real authorized apple repair center. their location will not be Giant Connaught in so small shopping center with such small little shop.. this kind of service cannot survive in market anymore.

next time must do more survey before sending ur phone to them.. if okay buy local set at least no so much problem even expensive 200/300 only..
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That's why I'm gonna wait for local iPhone 4. It's really a nightmare after gone through all these stuff.
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post Jun 21 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Jun 20 2010, 06:18 PM)
haha. for me i won't even think send it to them even their place is near by me.. bcos i believe that if they are real authorized apple repair center. their location will not be Giant Connaught in so small shopping center with such small little shop.. this kind of service cannot survive in market anymore.

next time must do more survey before sending ur phone to them.. if okay buy local set at least no so much problem even expensive 200/300 only..
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That's why I'm gonna wait for local iPhone 4. It's really a nightmare after gone through all these stuff.
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1. TS, First we have already told that we ARE NOT AUTHORIZED RESELLER OR AFFILIATE WITH APPLE. But you insist want us to help you claim your SINGTEL iphone. NOTE: YOU IS NOT PURCHASE THE IPHONE FROM US!

2. AFTER FEW DAYS, WE SUCCESSFULLY HELPING YOU TO CLAIMED THE WARRANTY AND WE HAVE LET YOU CHECK THE SINGTEL RECEIPT AND THE IPHONE, WE PASS THE RECEIPT AND IPHONE TO YOU.

3. SECOND DAY YOU COME BACK AND SAID THE TOUCH SCREEN NOT FUNCTION. WE CALL BACK THE RUNNER AND THEY NEED TO HAVE THE RECEIPT TO CLAIM IT SINCE SINGTEL NEED SOMETIME TO INPUT THE CLAIM WARRANTY. BUT YOU LOST IT AND WE BLAME US DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE SINGTEL RECEIPT.

4. SINCE YOU WANNA CLAIMED WARRANTY AGAIN AND WE HAVE TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE RUNNER FEES RM150, I SUGGEST WHY NOT WE HELP YOU TO CHANGE FOR RM100, WE WON'T CHARGE YOU FOR THE LABOR COST? THIS WILL BE BETTER THAN CLAIMED THE WARRANTY AND CHANGING THE TOUCH SCREEN CAN STILL MAINTAIN THE WARRANTY AND CAN CONTINUE THE WARRANTY COVERAGE IN FUTURE. YOU AGREED. WE DO IT FOR YOU.

5. THIS HAPPEN YEARS AGO, YOU NOT SATISFY WITH US, YOU COMPLAIN AND BLAMING ON US.

4. YOU SO DESPERATE TO FIX IT AND WE HELP YOU. WE IRRESPONSIBLE? ALL OF YOU ARE WISE, EVEN THE TS TOO.

YOU CAN SAID YOU UNSATISFIED, BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO DELIVER FOR YOU. IF YOU BUY YOUR IPHONE FROM MAXIS OR DIGI, YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE BETTER AND WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND CUSTOMERS GET IT TO AUTHORIZE CHANNEL. WE PROVIDE SERVICES HELPING PEOPLE TO SOLVE PROBLEM THAT AUTHORIZE CAN'T DO FOR YOU.

REGARDING THE SIGNBOARD, WE HAVE THE NEW LOGO AND NAME, WILL LAUNCH VERY SOON. THANK YOU.
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QUOTE(AppleSpecialist @ Jun 21 2010, 12:27 PM)
1. TS, First we have already told that we ARE NOT AUTHORIZED RESELLER OR AFFILIATE WITH APPLE. But you insist want us to help you claim your SINGTEL iphone. NOTE: YOU IS NOT PURCHASE THE IPHONE FROM US!

2. AFTER FEW DAYS, WE SUCCESSFULLY HELPING YOU TO CLAIMED THE WARRANTY AND WE HAVE LET YOU CHECK THE SINGTEL RECEIPT AND THE IPHONE, WE PASS THE RECEIPT AND IPHONE TO YOU.

3. SECOND DAY YOU COME BACK AND SAID THE TOUCH SCREEN NOT FUNCTION. WE CALL BACK THE RUNNER AND THEY NEED TO HAVE THE RECEIPT TO CLAIM IT SINCE SINGTEL NEED SOMETIME TO INPUT THE CLAIM WARRANTY. BUT YOU LOST IT AND WE BLAME US DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE SINGTEL RECEIPT.

4. SINCE YOU WANNA CLAIMED WARRANTY AGAIN AND WE HAVE TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE RUNNER FEES RM150, I SUGGEST WHY NOT WE HELP YOU TO CHANGE FOR RM100, WE WON'T CHARGE YOU FOR THE LABOR COST? THIS WILL BE BETTER THAN CLAIMED THE WARRANTY AND CHANGING THE TOUCH SCREEN CAN STILL MAINTAIN THE WARRANTY AND CAN CONTINUE THE WARRANTY COVERAGE IN FUTURE. YOU AGREED. WE DO IT FOR YOU.

5. THIS HAPPEN YEARS AGO, YOU NOT SATISFY WITH US, YOU COMPLAIN AND BLAMING ON US.

4. YOU SO DESPERATE TO FIX IT AND WE HELP YOU. WE IRRESPONSIBLE? ALL OF YOU ARE WISE, EVEN THE TS TOO.

YOU CAN SAID YOU UNSATISFIED, BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO DELIVER FOR YOU. IF YOU BUY YOUR IPHONE FROM MAXIS OR DIGI, YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE BETTER AND WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND CUSTOMERS GET IT TO AUTHORIZE CHANNEL. WE PROVIDE SERVICES HELPING PEOPLE TO SOLVE PROBLEM THAT AUTHORIZE CAN'T DO FOR YOU.

REGARDING THE SIGNBOARD, WE HAVE THE NEW LOGO AND NAME, WILL LAUNCH VERY SOON. THANK YOU.
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hmm this i have too see myself to believe, the previous logo mimics the Applecare logo alot
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post Jun 21 2010, 02:14 PM

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I personally had dealt with Applespecialist before ending last year if i remember correctly. The deal amounted to RM5000++ involving 2 iPhones. He travel to my doorstep to deal with me because i was facing transportation problem that time. The deal went perfectly fine further had a nice chat with him. This shows that he is quite understanding and feasible to communicate between customers to suit them.

And i don't think he is such a jerk. He had already came out with compensation (mainly to TS). IMO, give him a break, humans are not perfect. Further, he was just trying to do some business for living. Life goes on.

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moonflown did u really lose that receipt?
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Oh god, he snapped. And the problem is not about compensation but rather their "not my fault" attitude IMO.
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post Jun 21 2010, 03:22 PM

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1. TS, First we have already told that we ARE NOT AUTHORIZED RESELLER OR AFFILIATE WITH APPLE. But you insist want us to help you claim your SINGTEL iphone. NOTE: YOU IS NOT PURCHASE THE IPHONE FROM US!

2. AFTER FEW DAYS, WE SUCCESSFULLY HELPING YOU TO CLAIMED THE WARRANTY AND WE HAVE LET YOU CHECK THE SINGTEL RECEIPT AND THE IPHONE, WE PASS THE RECEIPT AND IPHONE TO YOU.

3. SECOND DAY YOU COME BACK AND SAID THE TOUCH SCREEN NOT FUNCTION. WE CALL BACK THE RUNNER AND THEY NEED TO HAVE THE RECEIPT TO CLAIM IT SINCE SINGTEL NEED SOMETIME TO INPUT THE CLAIM WARRANTY. BUT YOU LOST IT AND WE BLAME US DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE SINGTEL RECEIPT.

4. SINCE YOU WANNA CLAIMED WARRANTY AGAIN AND WE HAVE TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE RUNNER FEES RM150, I SUGGEST WHY NOT WE HELP YOU TO CHANGE FOR RM100, WE WON'T CHARGE YOU FOR THE LABOR COST? THIS WILL BE BETTER THAN CLAIMED THE WARRANTY AND CHANGING THE TOUCH SCREEN CAN STILL MAINTAIN THE WARRANTY AND CAN CONTINUE THE WARRANTY COVERAGE IN FUTURE. YOU AGREED. WE DO IT FOR YOU.

5. THIS HAPPEN YEARS AGO, YOU NOT SATISFY WITH US, YOU COMPLAIN AND BLAMING ON US.

4. YOU SO DESPERATE TO FIX IT AND WE HELP YOU. WE IRRESPONSIBLE? ALL OF YOU ARE WISE, EVEN THE TS TOO.

YOU CAN SAID YOU UNSATISFIED, BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO DELIVER FOR YOU. IF YOU BUY YOUR IPHONE FROM MAXIS OR DIGI, YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE BETTER AND WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND CUSTOMERS GET IT TO AUTHORIZE CHANNEL. WE PROVIDE SERVICES HELPING PEOPLE TO SOLVE PROBLEM THAT AUTHORIZE CAN'T DO FOR YOU.

REGARDING THE SIGNBOARD, WE HAVE THE NEW LOGO AND NAME, WILL LAUNCH VERY SOON. THANK YOU.


Dude you don't have to post your entire post in CAPS LOCK. It is very annoying to read and mind you the font is big enough for us to read. This thread is just to warn the members here since I'm not the only one who complained before. Please calm down since I know you gonna say the receipt is not with you anyway but that's not the point anymore =)

I like your words describing how desperate are your customers. According to other complain on you by another member, we must be so desperate for your service that we don't mind the quality.

Of course we hope that you change your sign to avoid further trouble for yourself and other members.

Besides

QUOTE(yezhacolic @ Jun 21 2010, 02:14 PM)
I personally had dealt with Applespecialist before ending last year if i remember correctly. The deal amounted to RM5000++ involving 2 iPhones. He travel to my doorstep to deal with me because i was facing transportation problem that time. The deal went perfectly fine further had a nice chat with him.  This shows that he is quite understanding and feasible to communicate between customers to suit them.

And i don't think he is such a jerk. He had already came out with compensation (mainly to TS). IMO, give him a break, humans are not perfect. Further, he was just trying to do some business for living. Life goes on.

Based on my 2cents, bashhammerinprogress
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Yeah I always kept that in my mind so that I don't blame everything on them. Someone actually PM-ed me about the problem with them and I already included that onto first page of this thread so I just try to provide some transparency to fellow members here.

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moonflown did u really lose that receipt?


No, I remembered so clearly that they didn't give me any documents or receipt when they handed me the warranted phone. But I've returned their receipt to them as a proof of my pre-payment (150)

But of course they already denied it and blame it on me. That's their customer-always-right business practice, ironically.

This post has been edited by Moonflown: Jun 21 2010, 03:27 PM
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wow. there are more and more negative cases can be found on http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/947766/+60?hl=imalaysian

good luck iMalaysian.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Jun 21 2010, 03:39 PM)
wow. there are more and more negative cases can be found on http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/947766/+60?hl=imalaysian

good luck iMalaysian.
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Already included this into first page. Might be closing this thread off soon to stop any dispute arguments and hopefully it'll serve as a warning to fellow members here

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