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post Jul 4 2010, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 4 2010, 05:17 PM)
Did you guys won the league after spending close two 100m on players? You finished 2nd. And it was only ManUtd who was in a rebuilding process and Arsenal back then. City have it harder since they are further down the line a bit when they started spending. And this time there are better teams around. The big 4(Liverpool included), Spurs, Villa, Everton.. they're all strong this time. It will just be a matter of time though before they break into the top 4. Once that happens, they will only get better.

Think about it. If Roman had bought Leeds, Leicester or Wolverhampton who all went down in 03/04 instead, it would be a Leeds/Leicester/Wolverhampton thread here which would be more popular. It might have taken longer, but with the money being thrown around, it was only a matter of time, like City would show eventually. 100m a season, where before that you were struggling if I remembered correctly with Bates although you got good results in the league. That's what people mean by money->trophy especially with clubs that have a sugar daddy like Chelsea has. From out of nowhere, comes in a rich guy, buy players out of his own pocket money, and presto, you're the champion. Like I said, could easily bought any other side, and would make it a champion in no time. Arsenal, us, Liverpool, any other side buy players from our own pocket money almost. We spent within our means which we earn through whatever income the clubs generated themselves.

On the pitch, it's clear you guys are worthy of whatever successes you had and will have, but it will be forever be in the shadows of the ££ with Russian signature stamped on top of every trophy. Don't cry when people doesn't acknowledge you guys as worthy. The fact is, without Roman, you wouldn't have the same amount of successes over the last few years since he came. You guys just have to live with that reputation.
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post Jul 4 2010, 09:15 PM

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hehe yeah, jealousy... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 4 2010, 05:17 PM)
Did you guys won the league after spending close two 100m on players? You finished 2nd. And it was only ManUtd who was in a rebuilding process and Arsenal back then. City have it harder since they are further down the line a bit when they started spending. And this time there are better teams around. The big 4(Liverpool included), Spurs, Villa, Everton.. they're all strong this time. It will just be a matter of time though before they break into the top 4. Once that happens, they will only get better.

Think about it. If Roman had bought Leeds, Leicester or Wolverhampton who all went down in 03/04 instead, it would be a Leeds/Leicester/Wolverhampton thread here which would be more popular. It might have taken longer, but with the money being thrown around, it was only a matter of time, like City would show eventually. 100m a season, where before that you were struggling if I remembered correctly with Bates although you got good results in the league. That's what people mean by money->trophy especially with clubs that have a sugar daddy like Chelsea has. From out of nowhere, comes in a rich guy, buy players out of his own pocket money, and presto, you're the champion. Like I said, could easily bought any other side, and would make it a champion in no time. Arsenal, us, Liverpool, any other side buy players from our own pocket money almost. We spent within our means which we earn through whatever income the clubs generated themselves.

On the pitch, it's clear you guys are worthy of whatever successes you had and will have, but it will be forever be in the shadows of the ££ with Russian signature stamped on top of every trophy. Don't cry when people doesn't acknowledge you guys as worthy. The fact is, without Roman, you wouldn't have the same amount of successes over the last few years since he came. You guys just have to live with that reputation.
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lol wtf with this post? suddenly got butthurted out of nothing. jealousy is so obvious.

did you not dream somebody can buy your club from the yanks? and if the answer is yes, why did such a dream come into your mind? it is because you realize the yanks are stupid owners who puts the club into great trouble with all the debts.

clubs need money, not only to strengthen the squad and to improve the facilities, but also as part of a re-branding process. football nowadays have become a big business and in order to get the profit, you need to invest first. roman bought chelsea because he see the potential of it to become a major brand; spend his money to buy players so that chelsea can won something. from winning, the club reputation will increase and indirectly will increase the revenue from shirt selling, merchandising and etc.

you can say anything you want. and you can twist everything to your likings. we did spend using roman money but look where it brings us to. and if i am not mistaken, we are on the verge for a break-even where all the money spends on players will come back to us through other channels.

i don't give a damn about what other fans think of chelsea. i wonder what will the reactions be if some sheikh buy the club from the yanks and start spending like mad (like what real madrid do)? will you say you guys already powerful and the investment is to make yourself stronger? bullshit! when other clubs is blessed with a fortune, you doesn't need to make that as an excuse to cover your club misfortune. its pathetic. please refer to my signature, everybody is a glory hunter. and as a matter of fact, it is from man u fans, surely you recognize him.

we are not born to this world with the knowledge to support which club. with our own logic and reasoning, we choose what is suitable for us.


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post Jul 4 2010, 10:32 PM

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eh, how come my post kena quote pulak rclxub.gif

PS: i dun say everyone is a GH, i said everyone STARTED as a GH. Either start liking football to support a great team, or start supporting a club because of a great player there.
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Jul 4 2010, 10:32 PM)
eh, how come my post kena quote pulak  rclxub.gif

PS: i dun say everyone is a GH, i said everyone STARTED as a GH. Either start liking football to support a great team, or start supporting a club because of a great player there.
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actually, i quoted it simply because i agree with it.

we are not even born when our club was founded. even for the very first supporter, they don't even know whether the team can become the manchester united as we know today. we are human and inside ourself, we are all a winner. that is why we choose a club that can become a winner or have someone that behave like a winner. however, the meaning of a 'winner' is subjective and it is different from every human being and hence producing fans for different clubs.

rather than contemplating on the spendings of rival clubs, it is better for us, football fans to discus something more beneficial. today maybe its chelsea day with all the spendings. who knows at latter stage it will be yours. the bashing about spending will continue and never end.

IMO, let us keep the amount of spending an internal matters. after all, chelsea didn't stole any money from man utd to be used for acquiring new players. owners of the club should be considered as part of the big family. they are like father in the club. we are blessed with roman, not only from his money but also for the love that he have in chelsea.


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why the fu¢k benayoun? why?

he's a fringe player.
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these man u...fans...always wif the same problem...
cant they get over it?...
they didnt spend merh? for the past few years?...we can start wif rio ferdinand...how much man u paid for him?....29m ...at year 2002
juan veron- 28m at year 2001
wayne rooney - 27m year 2004
berbatov - 31m 2008

alot more....to list...

go do ur own research for chelseas...and round it up....see how it goes

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every team needs to spend some good amount of money to strength up their own respective squad. deal and live with it...
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QUOTE(taor3n @ Jul 5 2010, 01:09 AM)
these man u...fans...always wif the same problem...
cant they get over it?...
they didnt spend merh? for the past few years?...we can start wif rio ferdinand...how much man u paid for him?....29m ...at year 2002
juan veron- 28m at year 2001
wayne rooney - 27m year 2004
berbatov - 31m 2008

alot more....to list...

go do ur own research for chelseas...and round it up....see how it goes
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You didn't get Wan's point. He meant we have sugar daddy to pump in the cash, whereas they spend the money from where they earn.

QUOTE(fariddarif @ Jul 5 2010, 02:02 AM)
every team needs to spend some good amount of money to strength up their own respective squad. deal and live with it...
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Yes but the difference is that we have RA to pump in the money, Man Utd does not.
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yes. i do agree that Roman's spending has an impact on our success. but i strongly disagree with the phrase buying trophies. i havent been a football fan for a long time so i dont know the history of most clubs yet but i believe that trophies cant be bought. if trophies could be bought, we'd be winning the prem and champions league every season since Roman bought the club? Real spent loads of cash and they still ended up second, City spent loads and isnt even in the champions league. in this competitive era, it is next to impossible to actually grow your own homegrown players, buy cheap players and turn them into super stars and win major silverware. by the time players become good, one foot is already in the big clubs, how can a smaller club be successful? its indeed very rare especially during this era of football.

there. the conclusion is, we didnt buy the trophies. we won them with players that loves the club, an owner that loves the club.


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it is natural business strategy actually, even big2 company also hunting for the great employees that can bring profit..u'll not guaranteed to be a successful person eventho u r raise in rich family, was sent to further studies in overseas, send to tuition somemore n etc2..might sounds awkward, but i try to make it as relevance as i can so that no more butthurted fans will come here n yelling their obtuse points..
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ Jul 4 2010, 11:15 PM)
actually, i quoted it simply because i agree with it.

we are not even born when our club was founded. even for the very first supporter, they don't even know whether the team can become the manchester united as we know today. we are human and inside ourself, we are all a winner. that is why we choose a club that can become a winner or have someone that behave like a winner. however, the meaning of a 'winner' is subjective and it is different from every human being and hence producing fans for different clubs.
chelsea.
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true. everyone had to start somewhere, and most people chose a club based on whatever 'glory' they had or MIGHT have in the future. however there are also others who initially got hooked on certain players, was born in the vicinity of said club, or even became fascinated by the colour of their jersey. but in the future, everyone hopes for some measure of 'glory,' as nobody, i repeat NOBODY is ever genuinely happy the club they support ended a season without silverware.

QUOTE(madfag @ Jul 5 2010, 09:00 AM)
the conclusion is, we didnt buy the trophies. we won them with players that loves the club, an owner that loves the club.
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the trophy buying allegations will forever be thrown about by rival fans, who are deluded enough to think their clubs have never spent a single cent on their way to success. they eagerly await and lap up whatever news they have on roman getting sick and tired of chelsea, and yet he's there almost week in week out at SW6, watching the majority of our matches at the bridge, cheering and celebrating like a REAL fan (not some cold, calculated and selfish businessman who can't tell the difference between football and ice hockey). the day roman calls it 'quits' never comes, while they keep reading news on their owners contemplating another huge loan and plunging their club deeper and deeper in debt. hence the reason for all the envy and hatred becomes clear.
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guys ..guys...lets put a FULLSTOP on above issues...and lets have a PRE-BPL 2010/11 season talk will be much more better.... laugh.gif nod.gif
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now that we've lost bally and joey who are our main right midfielders, do you think benny will acquire the right midfield spot or will essien play alongside mikel and lampard.
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benny might gradually make it his own, if mikel slips up. a mikel and essien combo does lack a bit of finesse imo. but i'd love to be proven wrong. in any case they can share game time so it shouldn't be a problem.

latest rumours concern a 23 year old brazillian named ramires from benfica, and porto's raul meireles. something new i suppose to keep us guessing. icon_idea.gif
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i guess bennayoun is good to play at RM....essien will be CM..no place for mikel.....
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yeah. mikel isnt very good if we're looking for a more offensive approach. i'd put essien in the holding midfield role that has the license to attack and benny on the right. again. assuming that everyone is fit.
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i realy would like to see this line-up in our 1st pre-season match against crystal palace on 17th july:

cech (GK)

bosingwa (RB)
ivanovic (CB)
terry (CB)
a.cole (LB)
essien (DM)
lampard (CM)
bennayoun (RM)
malouda (LM)
kalou (2nd striker)
drogba (CF)

kalou can play behind drogba...and he can do the attacking as well and move left & right to give space for lampard to attack as well....i can see all players in this lineup are fast paced except terry...but its not an issue for our boys...HOPE WE HAVE ALL PLAYERS INJURY FREE....pray to GOD notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Jul 4 2010, 11:17 PM)
why the fu¢k benayoun? why?

he's a fringe player.
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he's replacement for either Joe Cole or Ballack.. or Deco..

Benayoun will be in smaller salary and younger compare to those 3 (except Joe Cole is younger). he's lesser in term of talent but certainly have good scoring record, CL experience, etc and fitness -wise he's far superior than those.

he'll be squad player, not exciting, but still a sense buy by Ancelotti.. Joe Cole and Ballack's hefty salary will easily cover that 5.5 mil.
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i do think that benny will easily fit in the squad and is an instant replacement for bally and joey but it definitely isnt for the long term.

he has the skills and experience. i havent seen him in his off days but his on form days can be quite terrifying. any liverpool fans care to share one of his off form days with us?

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