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Ramjade
post Feb 21 2021, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Feb 20 2021, 02:27 PM)
Hey, it looks better than FSM's measly 0.6%.

https://www.stashaway.sg/simple

Can you share on the signup process?
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Best mmf in sg is by endowus. But you need agd10k min. Pretty expensive. They claimed their dimension funds can outperform S&P500.

For me I am skeptical and I trust ARK.

QUOTE(corad @ Feb 21 2021, 12:34 PM)
Thank you all for the replies. For a complete beginner, what reading material wold you suggest to get started on using funds in SG account (for non-SG residents)?

Googling brings up plenty of resources but in terms of money I'm very risk adverse so being very cautious in what should be taken as truth vs bad advice.

Right now I'm reading fundsupermart.com, but unsure if it's just to promote their own portfolio or really trying to help
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Depend on what you want to use the money in SG for. Some silly people keep cash only in SG and don't do anything with it.

If want to keep cash only, forget about opening SG bank account. Just dump it all in EPF (RM 60k/year). Money in EPF will easily best money in SG bank account.

Some use it to buy unit trust. Platform for it is
https://unittrust.poems.com.sg/. Avoid FSM for unit trust. They charge you quarterly just for buying unit result with them while there's no such charges with POEMS.

Some use it for robo.
There are plenty of option for robo.
- stashaway
- endowus
- syfe
- autowealth

Robo is for
1) lazy People and
2) people who don't know what they are doing and just want somewhere to park their money.
You are basically paying a middle man (the robos) to buy ETF for you which is a stupid thing to do (cause you can DIY and it's cheaper which means you have more money over long term)
Personally I avoid robo at all cost and I always tell people to avoid robo at all cost. (What's so difficult opening a overseas stock brokerage and deposit money in every month?)

Some use it for stocks.
You can buy sg stocks but get ready to lose money. Majority of the business in sg are lousy and get ready to lose money as investor. Sg market is only good for reits and banks. Nothing more.
Platform for buying sg stocks are
- FSM SG
- Tiger broker.

Some use it to buy international stocks.
Some use it as a stepping stone to overseas stock because SGD is more important international than our RM..
This is where the magic starts.
I personally recommend buying international stocks.
More info can visit
https://ringgitfreedom.com/2020/11/13/journ...onal-brokerage/

If you are looking into investing in stocks, know what kind of investor your are.
i) dividend Investor
- you invest for extra money every month
ii) growth investor
- you invest hoping to multiply your original money but most of the time you won't get paid.a single cent unless you sell
iii) trader
- you are looking to make a quite buck by buying and selling within a few hours to few days.
iv) speculator
- where stock market is your casino

I use blogs and youtube. These are what I used last time.
Read this. I read all of it when I started out. No one teach me anything.
I learned mostly from blogs and forums

For starters kindly read this
1. https://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot.com/
(see all the link at the side, read all of them)
2. https://investmentmoats.com/stock-market-in...ting-resources/
3. https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....f-dividend.html
4.
https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....-of-saving.html
5. https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....out-me-ste.html
6. https://www.mrfreeat33.com/my-story/
7. https://www.mrtakoescapes.com/farmers-hunte...l-independence/
8. https://www.mrtakoescapes.com/love-big-fat-cash-pile/


QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 21 2021, 07:05 PM)
sg for versa too?
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There's no versa for sg. The closest to versa returns is endowus.

Do not waste your SGD on money market fund.
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post Feb 21 2021, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 21 2021, 07:49 PM)
Robo is for
1) lazy People and
2) people who don't know what they are doing and just want somewhere to park their money.
You are basically paying a middle man (the robos) to buy ETF for you which is a stupid thing to do (cause you can DIY and it's cheaper which means you have more money over long term)
Personally I avoid robo at all cost and I always tell people to avoid robo at all cost. (What's so difficult opening a overseas stock brokerage and deposit money in every month?)
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Off topic (if allowed), but curious about your views on 2)
If we deposit money monthly to buy ETFs wouldn't that incur repeated currency conversion (same for robo, but conversion in brokerage might be higher % if sum is low?) and expensive brokerage trade commissions?
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post Feb 22 2021, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(Murasaki322 @ Feb 21 2021, 11:30 PM)
Off topic (if allowed), but curious about your views on 2)
If we deposit money monthly to buy ETFs wouldn't that incur repeated currency conversion (same for robo, but conversion in brokerage might be higher % if sum is low?) and expensive brokerage trade commissions?
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Come on la. If you use pure Interactive broker, it's only going to cost you USD2.00/currency conversion (regardless how large is the amount) and USD0.35/transaction which is equal USD2.35 per month. Of course it's recommended to do transactions of say USD2k to bring down the % paid in commision commision.

If you use whitelabels it's only going to cost you USD 2.00 (conversion fees) + USD1.50/transaction.

What I do is I collect until RM12k then convert my money.
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post Feb 22 2021, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 21 2021, 07:49 PM)
Best mmf in sg is by endowus. But you need agd10k min. Pretty expensive. They claimed their dimension funds can outperform S&P500.

For me I am skeptical and I trust ARK.
Depend on what you want to use the money in SG for. Some silly people keep cash only in SG and don't do anything with it.

If want to keep cash only, forget about opening SG bank account. Just dump it all in EPF (RM 60k/year). Money in EPF will easily best money in SG bank account.

Some use it to buy unit trust. Platform for it is
https://unittrust.poems.com.sg/. Avoid FSM for unit trust. They charge you quarterly just for buying unit result with them while there's no such charges with POEMS.

Some use it for robo.
There are plenty of option for robo.
- stashaway
- endowus
- syfe
- autowealth

Robo is for
1) lazy People and
2) people who don't know what they are doing and just want somewhere to park their money.
You are basically paying a middle man (the robos) to buy ETF for you which is a stupid thing to do (cause you can DIY and it's cheaper which means you have more money over long term)
Personally I avoid robo at all cost and I always tell people to avoid robo at all cost. (What's so difficult opening a overseas stock brokerage and deposit money in every month?)

Some use it for stocks.
You can buy sg stocks but get ready to lose money. Majority of the business in sg are lousy and get ready to lose money as investor. Sg market is only good for reits and banks. Nothing more.
Platform for buying sg stocks are
- FSM SG
- Tiger broker.

Some use it to buy international stocks.
Some use it as a stepping stone to overseas stock because SGD is more important international than our RM..
This is where the magic starts.
I personally recommend buying international stocks.
More info can visit
https://ringgitfreedom.com/2020/11/13/journ...onal-brokerage/

If you are looking into investing in stocks, know what kind of investor your are.
i) dividend Investor
- you invest for extra money every month
ii) growth investor
- you invest hoping to multiply your original money but most of the time you won't get paid.a single cent unless you sell
iii) trader
- you are looking to make a quite buck by buying and selling within a few hours to few days.
iv) speculator
- where stock market is your casino

I use blogs and youtube. These are what I used last time.
Read this. I read all of it when I started out. No one teach me anything.
I learned mostly from blogs and forums

For starters kindly read this
1. https://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot.com/
(see all the link at the side, read all of them)
2. https://investmentmoats.com/stock-market-in...ting-resources/
3. https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....f-dividend.html
4.
https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....-of-saving.html
5. https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....out-me-ste.html
6. https://www.mrfreeat33.com/my-story/
7. https://www.mrtakoescapes.com/farmers-hunte...l-independence/
8. https://www.mrtakoescapes.com/love-big-fat-cash-pile/
There's no versa for sg. The closest to versa returns is endowus.

Do not waste your SGD on money market fund.
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https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-rules-fo...f874&srid=5nApp

Thanks.
What is your view on this(extracted from article above)?

If you are non-American it is best to get access to US Markets with funds domiciled outside the US.
For example, regardless of whether you are a DIY investor or going through an advisor, it is best to invest in a non-US platform (say SwissQuote, Saxo or whatever) rather than a US platform (Interactive Brokers, eToro as an example).

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post Feb 22 2021, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 22 2021, 02:50 PM)
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-rules-fo...f874&srid=5nApp

Thanks.
What is your view on this(extracted from article above)?

If you are non-American it is best to get access to US Markets with funds domiciled outside the US.
For example, regardless of whether you are a DIY investor or going through an advisor, it is best to invest in a non-US platform (say SwissQuote, Saxo or whatever) rather than a US platform (Interactive Brokers, eToro as an example).
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Nope. Still go with US. You can bypass 30 dividend tax by selling options.
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post Feb 24 2021, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 19 2021, 02:34 PM)
You and your child will need to evaluate objectively his quality. If he can compete then why not (but don't go compete if you're not of that level la).

Honestly 'middle middle' institutes in SG aren't any better than the private universities we have locally (disclaimer, I'm a lecturer at one of them). NTU/NUS are top notch and world class though, those 2 no fight.

One thing to consider is that higher education is changing a lot now as well. What we consider elite may no longer be elite in 5-15 years time. Keep an open mind.
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QUOTE(donhay @ Feb 19 2021, 05:02 PM)
Thanks guys for the input. No matter for children's future education or not? That's just have to wait and see

At this moment, me having a SG bank account is part of my portfolio diversification ( trade in SGX and SG$), I guess is the same for most of us here.  tongue.gif  Cause our RM cannot lah
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Bros,... sometimes,... this competition thing is overblown,... I'm just thinking if there's a better way to make a good living out there without having to compete hard, we just have to find that way.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 24 2021, 12:31 PM)
Bros,... sometimes,... this competition thing is overblown,... I'm just thinking if there's a better way to make a good living out there without having to compete hard, we just have to find that way.
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There are many ways to make a good living. You are restricted by your ethics, by your culture and heritage, by your connections, and sometimes by your capability.

But when you find a way, what do you do with the other people who are using the same way? 'Blue ocean strategy' only works until a bigger shark than you comes along. So no matter what you must grow to become a shark.
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 24 2021, 02:20 PM)
There are many ways to make a good living. You are restricted by your ethics, by your culture and heritage, by your connections, and sometimes by your capability.

But when you find a way, what do you do with the other people who are using the same way? 'Blue ocean strategy' only works until a bigger shark than you comes along. So no matter what you must grow to become a shark.
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I rather be a whale piggybacking on a shark rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2021, 08:26 PM)
You open sg bank acocunt is not for their FD. If you are using it for FD, better don't open account there cause you don't know how to make use of sg bank account. I don't know about you.

I opened my account for
1. Invest into sg reits. They offer 3-8%p.a dividend yield.
2. Use it to invest into US market since overseas broker accept SGD deposit and not RM.

And in case you are wondering, my SGD is minimum giving me 6%p.a

And no. I don't bring my money back. No intention.
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QUOTE(donhay @ Feb 17 2021, 12:34 PM)
My $$ in my SG bank account is 20% , the other 80% are in SGX ( reits, banks) and UT from the bank.

Will not be bringing any $$ back, as it is part of my diversification from my Msian portfolio  and maybe $$ for my child education in SG next time (provided he qualify to be accepted  biggrin.gif  )
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may i know what are the sg reits & banks in sgx that's good for dividend yield ?
which platform would you recommend for sgx market ? tiger broker ?
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 24 2021, 02:20 PM)
There are many ways to make a good living. You are restricted by your ethics, by your culture and heritage, by your connections, and sometimes by your capability.

But when you find a way, what do you do with the other people who are using the same way? 'Blue ocean strategy' only works until a bigger shark than you comes along. So no matter what you must grow to become a shark.
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I advised my children to capitalise on all which are within their circles of influence/ctrl,... and to be observant of events ard them,.... then their etiquette and their principles in life will guide them further.

IT's okay even if a bigger shark comes along,... there are fields whereby f there is a bigger shark out there, it bodes well rather than be detrimental to us.

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How many days it takes for the amount to be reflected in CIMB Singapore Fast Saver Account , from the moment transfer is initiated in CIMB clicks Malaysia ? Considering transfer is to own account.
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Tried to use Moneymatch for my transfers from CIMB MY to CIMB SG. Was asked to provide proof of SG Residence but I'm not staying there. Anyone has any solution to that?
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QUOTE(dragonsklz @ Mar 4 2021, 10:38 AM)
Tried to use Moneymatch for my transfers from CIMB MY to CIMB SG. Was asked to provide proof of SG Residence but I'm not staying there. Anyone has any solution to that?
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use instarem, transferwise, sunway money or bigpay instead?
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 4 2021, 10:42 AM)
use instarem, transferwise, sunway money or bigpay instead?
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I didn't know was possible with Bigpay, will try that. Thanks man! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(dragonsklz @ Mar 4 2021, 10:38 AM)
Tried to use Moneymatch for my transfers from CIMB MY to CIMB SG. Was asked to provide proof of SG Residence but I'm not staying there. Anyone has any solution to that?
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I just put savings.
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Tried linking my CIMB with CIMB SG, got the reference number but when I check the status, there is nothing, not even 'in progress' or whatever that is suppose to show up. Is that normal or should I be concerned?
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 8 2021, 03:57 PM)
Tried linking my CIMB with CIMB SG, got the reference number but when I check the status, there is nothing, not even 'in progress' or whatever that is suppose to show up. Is that normal or should I be concerned?
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It will be reflected later.
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Hi bros and sis',.... I recalled reading somewhere among these threads that some investors here who are more risk-averse wanted 'safer' investments for their Singapore Dollar cash holdings. Following is a good option to consider.

The subscription amt is NOT 250k SGD minimum and you can invest on lower amts. These bonds will be listed on the exchange for easier buying and selling.

https://www.dealstreetasia.com/stories/tema..._eid=a9c42462b1
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 9 2021, 03:34 PM)
It will be reflected later.
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Thanks. It is working now
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Want ask what's the cheapest way to bring sgd back to myr?

Via cimb acc..

Pls advise... Tq

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