habis tuh? u gave the choice wad... i answer jer la

basically, u did not give any proper answer to his question also.. LOL

anyone going this friday?

haha Gila mahal.

wingster :hows the bokeh and all if at 50mm f2.8? i'm considering to upgrade also . or can pinjam urs? tukar one day wiv my sal16105??

cjlai : tak dapat invitation , so probably joining the CAL TT

This post has been edited by mastering89: Jun 3 2010, 12:34 AM

anybody here owns 70-300G ? is it worth to upgrade from beercan to this G lens ?

haiyo.... cjlai...... i baru go bak cyberjaya that date.......

the flash zoom is according to lens focal length OR 35mm equivalent focal length in aps-c body ?

midnight spam...sharing my bday cake after P.S...

From the WB master! Always perfect WB.. Thats the power of practice in Jpeg..learn a few tricks from u... me on other hand always lazy.. do the wb raw editing afterward. By the time i set up my white balance im sure the food is already half eaten by others not only shooting wedding need to be fast.. apply for food photo as well.


Photography to me these days seems very competitive. You really need to standout from the rest if you wanna make a good living from it. A degree in photography is not really necessary but is always a good foundation to start with... I believe the course is designed to train yourself different from the rest of dslr OWNERs.

Do not get discourage. If you think u want it very much, then just go for it. There is nothing better than work on something you love to do. Of course you will hear a lot of negative feedback... (if u tell ur mum or others u wanna starts selling durian business...what will they say?) Nowadays people tend to go for the "safe path"... study... get good result.. get good job.. work the rest of life... die nothing wrong with that.. some people love that cause is predictable n safe.

Im a science students n get full As for all my science subjects in school... but I firmly apply for art & design course. Many says interior design cannot cari makan... why dont study doctor or medic since my result can get JPA scholarship. Mayb im juz stubborn.. i never once doubt bout my decision... of course im glad my parents support 100%. On other hand, my stubbornness simply wanna prove those people who doubt about me.. that I can do well in what have chosen hoho

The real question will be ... How MUCH you want it. If you think your job going to be hell boring.. u just wanna get a cert, then a daily job... then better pursue your photography dream. If you are uncertain, doubt, not sure... maybe is just your SUDDEN interest in photography.. Then you better don risk it. Take the road more often taken. B Safe. You see many of us here are not full time photographer is just our hobbies..you can still play photography even if u din go for the course.

ah this remind me of a poem by Robert Frost hehe

The Road Not Taken





Wow this is Beautiful.. I love the colours


Yes is GOOD! Sharp at F2.8. Period. If you like shooting in low light wide open and don like to boost up ur iso... then this lens best for you..Rm 1400 below can get.


u ask BEST of course will say G SSM laaa!~~ the price x 2 ,

Must be invited? or can we just go there without invitation? I just wanna visit the place.

ops maybe I'm blur just now

Tamron 17-50 F2.8 is actually costs around RM1500 but second hand value can get around RM1000~RM1300 depends on the condition.

At f2.8 is not recently sharp on corners but at least center has good sharpness, on f4 will make it more sharper

Carl Zeiss 16-80 F3.5-F4.5 costs around RM2400~RM2500 but second value can get around RM2000 depends on condition also.

Like the Tamron, CZ 16-80 has the same sharpness as the Tammy 17-50 on F4 however CZ gains more better color than Tammy.

Depends your budget and also your needs for working, if you wanted to do low light photography in natural lighting I may suggest Tammy but if you want nice colors and extra telephoto get the CZ

[G]ood_Day : **** Turning uncle mode to ON *****

Take this advise from this uncle lar... finish your studies is Business and IT first. It's a good course and you really do not have to stay in the office if you find the right kind of job. IT is a huge field.

Photography is fun when you're having it as a hobby. When you want to earn a living from it, it's not so fun anymore. It's hard work and most of the time you're unappreciated.

Competition is stiff and if you don't really stand out, you're in for a hard time. People here in M'sia still have very low perception and respect for people dealing in arts like artists, authors and photographers. They think what you do is 'cheap' and most of the time are not willing to pay for services rendered.

Wedding photography? It's a hard job. You work your ass off and they expect you to do it for free! You know what they actually think? 'Take pictures only mah, so difficult meh? I can get my <insert favourite relative or friend> to do it for free also, why need to pay you so much?'

They want the best pictures but when you ask them what kind of pictures they want, they have no idea and say that you're the photographer you should know already. What am I? A mind reader? If you go with your own style and they don't like it, they blame you. So it's not about just taking pics, there's also how you deal with clients and settle conflicts. Sometimes they ask for the sky and only want to pay peanuts.

When you're just starting out, it's really difficult. If you charge they question your ability and skills. If you don't charge they take it for granted and it comes back to bite you sometimes. This happens when some of their friends want you to do the job and don't want to pay because you did not charge the first time mah...

So what do you get? A lot of hard work but little monetary rewards. It's not the money that is the main reward here (especially when you're just starting out). It's the satisfaction you get when you've done a good job. Nothing beats a comment like, "Hey! I like the photos you took at the last wedding" from a client.

And also when you're relying on photography to bring in the money, you may need to shoot things that you don't like to shoot just to bring in the money you need to survive. Have you thought about that?

Not to dampened your spirits lar... if you have enough of an interest, you will find a way somehow but just need to tell you a bit of the 'not so good side'. People only tell you their good stories. Seldom do you get to hear about their bad stories.

**** Turning uncle mode to OFF *****

BTW I'm not full time photographer... just part time like whenever there's an offer to do kinda photographer...

Funny how so many ppl think photography is like a glamour job or sumthin. It's 1 of the worst paid professions in the world.

here this article states the other way (overpaid jobs in US)
probably just in US and for those experienced photographers

This post has been edited by mastering89: Jun 3 2010, 09:21 AM

am i the only one in health sciences here?

Hmmmm... be the best among frens...
i think i can 1 cos i dun have fren playing photography

full time engineer wor~
lolz i stay in cheras leisure mall nearby
when u all organize TT I can join de
but i dun have a dslr

sry late reply ytd sleep

wow... so many turn into uncle mode... haha.... but all they said is totally true... i oso studying engineering while learning bit by bit in photography... haha...

okay okay I will consider deeply about it, and I don't really want to waste my parent's money on my 1st sem and I give up
thx all the sifus here

btw what is TT??

guys..what size of filter can i buy for my 1855kitlens?..i plan to buy UV filter...is it 55mm? for my 18-55kitlens which comes with my 550 alpha..

This post has been edited by ahpingko: Jun 3 2010, 09:54 AM

[G]ooD_DaY: TT=Teh tarik. m i rite?
ahpingko: ya, i think it's 55mm, u can check on the lens cap.

ya..i saw 55mm on my lens...so means correct lo?....filter got hw many type?..CPL or UV is better??...screw in type ?..i saw some thread in the inner part of the lens..

TT is a meet up session just to share share tokoksingsong as some of us would put it... abbreviation of 'teh tarik' or 'tech transfer' (more of poison transfer if u ask me)

take your lens, look at it from the front, you will see a symbol like this with a number next to it, that number is your lens' filter size

This post has been edited by lwliam: Jun 3 2010, 10:07 AM