yet another news
http://phandroid.com/2010/05/24/froyo-may-...ed-prematurely/

No wait, you're getting it wrong. Even if HTC build the hardware for them, it has a difference. The user interface shell clearly is a property of SE. All those Time Scape thing is introduced by SE and not HTC. The speed in introducing new updates is really being hampered by all these user interface shell.

HTC (Sense UI), Motorola (MotoBLUR), SE (Timescape, etc) all have this problem. The difference is SE seems to be the slower of the 3 (besides being slow into the hardware introduction).

So what difference do you mean? SE seem to have a different strategy with respect to all this Android revision thing. All it needs is a stable platform. SE lost the UIQ and it was a failure, enough said. It is still at the ARM9 featurephones using proprietary A100/200 platform. It desperately need a smartphone OS. What is more easy than to adopt Android? Motorola did the same thing with some reasonable success. So if it is using Android 1.6. So what? Because SE clearly markets the X10 for the 'SE features' like 8MP camera, etc etc rather than features introduced by new Android revisions.

But geeks don't see the same thing. They want to be ahead of the game. They want Android 2.1 (and now 2.2). SE seems to be slow. That is where I'm pointing at.

No problems for me so far. Just some apps that use to be on market are no longer available to me. Also I cannot use the apptosd feature (perhaps that is app related and developers need to update it). I think I'll use it till they re-release Froyo and just update it again. ()

Took the exact words right out of my mouth.

And worst is, the X10, much like other phones that SE did after their last hero phone, is like a half baked product. It looks beautifully finished, but inside it still lacks a lot of features. Most notably is the multi touch display. SE used to up the aces with great phones like the K700i, W800i, K800/810i and not to mention the P1i. The P1i was a very good PDA back then. 3 years later, disappointing.

P1i?
For me, the phone is like a prototype from SE..
The designation is a little bit clumsy..
And i really don't like it..

Yeah I truly agree with you. SE seems to have problem with talents. Why? They seem to have problems introducing new hardware. When was the first time they introduced ARM9 processors to their phones? Since from the beginning. Their 'latest' home grown PDA phone was still on ARM9. In fact, its the same core platform from A100/200 with some enhancements.

All this while SE never really talk much about their phone hardware. Instead, they pulled a typical Sony. Focusing more on features and convergence. All of a sudden, they realize they don't have an ecosystem to support their product (they don't have an OS, they don't have an App store). This is where Android comes in.

AND STILL THEY NEED HTC to build them the X10? SE has a lot of catching up to do. I sincerely hope X10 is not another half baked half supported product. I mean it does have the looks and the software seems to be fantastic if not for some slight stuttering here and there.

Yeah it was really disappointing. P1i with 128MB of RAM and everyone was really excited about it. But the bugs really spoiled the show. No fixes or software update for a long time. Then suddenly SE comes out and say... this will be the last update ever for P1. Then in a few months, they shut down UIQ. Everyone was pissed!

Anybody on Nexus One who upgraded to 2.2 has issues with their earphones control? I can't seem to use the Play/Pause, Forward and Back control button with the stock Nexus earphone

How come i felt my froyo drain faster? Damm, i ensure i kill most app all the time. :-(

Oh, yea.. i love that feature! It makes my iPhone friends gone crazy. lmao


Exactly, suddenly felt so white and.. unfamiliar. Btw, if you found any, do let me know :-)

lmao. damm the x10. It looks so beautify but i tried it.. itz sluggish. And it's indifferent to the world of android. Itz like they are selling their layer of UI only. Android to them itz jz a platform to built the UI.


I was juggling with Legend & N1 before i bought my N1, i can proudly say now.. no regret. 2.2 is totally lovely!


+10 they just don't care what is happening to the mobile phone. To them integration to FB seems to be everything -.-"

My reason for rooting earlier was the Wireless Tether & USB Tethering. Guess no point to it now. But i already rooted earlier, so i jz leave it that way and go with pre-rooted froyo.

Erm, can't at all? I know when u unplug the earphone it will start playing music by itself. lmao. The rest is still fine. The only problem is the earphone doesn't seems to control the phone function, you can't hangphone with your earphone! iPhone has one of the most lovely implementation of earphone. love the simple n small control on the earphone

Hmm .. i would say the battery is much better with 2.2 ..... i watched some (Flash) videos on Megavideo.com for over one hour, played Flash games for another hour on kongregate.com, browsing + SMSing for 1-2 hours ... and standby phone for 24 hours before i got the red bar battery warning (at 10%)

I would say it was a leap of improvement actually.

This post has been edited by elan: May 25 2010, 12:56 PM

Actually I don't see a big jump in battery life like you all did. On average, my mileage is at most slightly more than 1 one day. I mostly access FB, Twitter and Engadget app on the go.

You do NOT need a taskiller on N1. Task Manager is a built in feature into Android and it is dynamic. There is no need to kill apps AT ALL.


Chill guys, don't be sad. If you are a SE user or Milestone user, you guys are NOT left out. Froyo is not even officially OTA yet. We took it by force because we wanted to try it. Of course Google would have opened it for Nexus One first. That was undoubted. After all, its their flagship phone. And of course, we N1 users are much more priviliged than the other Android phone users because we took a lot of hassle to bring in the Nexus One into Malaysia in the first place - and on top of that, risk our devices by flashing custom roms and kernels on it. But that doesn't mean you guys will not get your parts. At least, let Froyo turn official first.

I will not comment on HTC phones. I know Desire will get it. Not sure about Legend. Its not that they can't have it. Its HTC that's way too slow in producing the updates. You guys are talking about a rather short time frame for Android 2.1 -> Android 2.2. Some of us here have been using HTC Hero and have been waiting for the Eclair (NOT EVEN FROYO) update ever since we had the device. Think about our impatience

To those of you who are running Froyo on your N1s, we have a custom kernel coming up for you guys. If you have been aware of the LDC kernel, this will be similar to it, and have a mere 21MB of free extra RAM for your Froyo'd N1s. You guys can take the brain freeze?

OMG OMG OMG Brain Freeze! Hehehehe

Hehehe..Froyo freeze.. I'll release the kernel tonight on LDC..Its our own product, so we won't be releasing it on LYN..I'll give you guys the link though

shahz,
Awesome stuff! What other differences and benefits will this kernel have over the stock one? Keep up the good work man. Respect.

Yeah, included a whole bunch of stuff..
- Undervolted for cooler experience
- disabled most of the debugging options
- enabled ALL CPUfreq modes (so you can choose ALL modes in your setCPU)
- Enabled EXT4 filesystem (still figuring out the new apps2sd method though)
- Enabled USB RNDIS
- Added Netfilter
- Disable BUG() function from kernel. This will make 'less' warnings' and decrease kernel size too.
- SLUB I/O scheduler

and lots more.....

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Added on May 25, 2010, 6:49 pmBasically, its a kernel for normal users who do not understand too in-depth stuff of the modded kernels

This post has been edited by shahz: May 25 2010, 06:49 PM

how to reinstall 2.1 back?

nandroid..

I hope upcoming Nexus2 will make Nexus1's price dropped a bit..
I wanna have N1 as fast as possible.. What the phone, What the phone..
Anyway Shahz, if u can teach me how to create a kernel... How lucky am i..

yea, get in line Legend and Desire. We were here first and still waiting for Eclair.

Tattoo too!!