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post May 19 2010, 08:47 AM, updated 16y ago

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UK-based sports sites:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/default.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/
http://www.rockynewsnow.info/ - Its a modified version from NewsNow and concentrate solely for arsenal.. It also filtered out most crap, unreliable stuff from the blogosphere .. And best feature which still chuckled me, renamed some team/ sites to funny names .. that one you will have read yourself, it wont be much of a problem to know the original team anyway if you are an Arsenal's supporter for a while.

or follow good quality arsenal blogs which often have good insight and fan-written articles:
Arseblog ( http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog ) - good old drunken arseblogger who swears at anything that's not arsenal
A Cultured Left Foot ( http://aculturedleftfoot.wordpress.com/ )- decent writeup and opinions
Gunnerblog ( http://gunnerblog.com/ ) - same as above
Goodplaya ( http://goodplaya.com/ )- probably the most accurate player analysis after a match
3rd Gen ( http://www.third-gen.com/ )- pretty good too
Arsenal Insider ( http://www.arsenalinsider.com/ )- very pro-Arsene site, but many good articles to read... great weekly TGIF, but not sure whether they still do it or not
Untold Arsenal ( http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/ )- My newest favourite arsenal site written by a die-hard old school gooner
http://www.goonernews.com - all-in-one Arsenal news web
http://arsenalist.com/ - for replays and highlights
http://myarsenalvlog.blogspot.com/ - for videos and highlights
http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com - technical analysis on Arsenal


For news and progress about the kids, try
Young Guns ( http://youngguns.wordpress.com/ )
Arsenal Youth ( http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/ )
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The Emotional Highbury and The Grand Ashburton Grove

Highbury 1913-2006

For the majority of their time in south-east London, Arsenal played at the Manor Ground in Plumstead, a three-year period at the nearby Invicta Ground between 1890 and 1893 excepted. The Manor Ground was initially just a field, but the club installed stands and terracing in time for their first Football League match in September 1893. They played their home games there for the next twenty years (with two exceptions in 189495), until the move to north London in 1913.

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Arsenal Stadium, widely referred to as Highbury, was Arsenal's home from September 1913 until May 2006. The original stadium was designed by the renowned football architect Archibald Leitch, and had a design common to many football grounds in the UK at the time, with a single covered stand and three open-air banks of terracing. In the 1930s, the entire stadium was given a massive overhaul, with new Art Deco West and East stands constructed, opening in 1932 and 1936 respectively; in addition, the North Bank terrace had a roof added, which was later bombed during World War II and not restored until 1956.

At its peak, Highbury could hold over 60,000 spectators, and had a capacity of 57,000 until the early 1990s. The Taylor Report and Premier League regulations forced Arsenal to convert Highbury into an all-seater in time for the 199394 season, reducing the capacity to 38,419 seated spectators. This capacity had to be reduced further during Champions League matches to accommodate additional advertising hoardings, so much so that for two seasons (199899 and 199900) Arsenal played Champions League home matches at Wembley, which could house more than 70,000 spectators.

Final moments - the emotions run high in Highbury

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Ashburton Grove 2007-present

Expansion of Highbury was restricted because the East Stand had been designated as a Grade II listed building and the other three stands were close to residential properties. These limitations have prevented the club from maximising the revenue that their domestic form could have brought in recent seasons. After considering various options, in 2000 Arsenal proposed building a new 60,000-seater stadium at Ashburton Grove, since renamed the Emirates Stadium, about 500 metres south-west of Highbury. The project was initially delayed by red tape and rising costs, but construction was completed in July 2006, in time for the start of the 200607 season. The stadium is named after its sponsors, the airline company Emirates, with whom the club signed the largest sponsorship deal in English football history, worth approximately 100 million; however some fans refer to the ground as Ashburton Grove, or the Grove, as they do not agree with corporate sponsorship of stadium names.The stadium will be officially known as Emirates Stadium until at least 2012, and the airline will be the club's shirt sponsor until the end of the 201314 season.

Construction and completion of the Ashburton Grove

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post May 19 2010, 08:48 AM

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The LYN Gooners
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A - atreyuangel, Angel of Deth, Andr3w, awh85, alabais, arsenal, Ah KeaT, Azurues, ahcong, aladdin, airline, afiqkhairi, aku_figo, ametzer
B - binary, blugear, bobotorix, broken_string, BuLLs10, beandy, bal, b4sh88, billygoh, buzzfizz, Bellatrix LeStrange
C - ch1ck3n, chinzw, c_calvin, chika138, cyfc29, CrOmer, cry4freedom, chypher, chronic_blade
D - darnell, Darkmage12, Dashken, dcking, Daven81, darksider, DannGun, dkwan87, det3st
E - erxier, elvenchou1987,eZeE

F - FCUK89, fo33il, Frostymocha, fcuk90, FollowN, funnyTONE, fish_hoo, FerD7
G - gigalixir, garagesell, greated, Gilbert5107, gordon.engineer, Gr3yL3gion, gummer, giotto, Gr3yL3gion81
H - harrychoo, he-sham, heavenhell90, hirozq, Havock^64, heLL_bOy, Hideiki, hydrogen, hunter1012
I - ivanchin99, ivanau88, IsoZ, iglue, isma45
J - jasonkwk, jam_lennon, jeffwyk, jim18992, jamallj, jameslionhart, joe405, jonrwg, jaecon, jinyu, jeff_v2, JoyLee1055
K - kenzo, KingHenry14, kenny B, kyser39099, kabuto rider kick, kaka91, kazek, kayent, kae7, kepalakeras, KiNA Asuki, kuai_chai, kepet, kimhoong, kevlinefm, kanelee

L - Lowyat, little_mozart, linkinstreet, leinnz, Liuism, Laine85, laica, locomotion, lhy88, lipkhin, linuxskate, Lynixx, leymar7, lonelysoldierboy, liez
M - Mie, muhdhafiz, matju, maximus85, ManLivArs, mukissmyarse, mengdez, mruzian, Meis, muhdhan
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O - ocz, opjust
P - Phalanx, playerseeker, pukarix, punditski, pmtan, paopiak
Q - Quick`, QuickFire
R - RedSky21, ROTiJOHN, RyanAtwood, realman, Roux, ReBeLLioN, rastablank, raven143, rickrick, rifasha, rebel_azri

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U - udin_014
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W - waynewong79, waruna
X - xakemx
Y - yingchai, yogurt7, yuchankit, youloong118
Z - zhixin, zenox0123, zstan

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Some photo sharing dedicated for Ramsey's injury

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Let's have a "cleaner" thread now onwards.

Remember, debate/discuss on the issue, not on the individuals (I mean the one who post)

In worst case scenario,
1. ignore posts that do not make sense
2. REPORT posts that break LYN & FL R&R

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Anyone knows whether Arsenal's new kit is ready??? And how it looks like???

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post May 19 2010, 09:24 AM

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gosh...heart broken la with paper headline.. fab told wenger he wanna leave.. demm
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post May 19 2010, 09:26 AM

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0% must come from casanova n beandy...
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open on9 news today...all said "cesc is leaving Arsenal" hmmm..sad.gif

but its ok i think..its time for him...if he go..thanks 4 everything cesc..
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I surely don't know to love or hate Cesc if he leaves..since he signed the long term contract,which no one put a gun on his head to sign..I would prefer him leaving via running down his contract or whatever..not at this stage..

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0% must come from casanova n beandy...
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Yeah extremely likely..I voted for 50% only though.. biggrin.gif

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For personal reference, I suggest you guys to get an average of the scores <-> voters to reflect a clearer picture of how AW fares wink.gif

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Cesc please don't go! sad.gif
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Cesc to Wenger: I've got to go!!!

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cant blame Cesc..still hoping that he will stay...lets wait n c
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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ May 19 2010, 09:26 AM)
0% must come from casanova n beandy...
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I am not referring to Casanova or beandy, but if one votes for 0%, I believe it's rather disrespectful, not to AW alone but to other managers whose teams are lower than Arsenal - such as Spurs, ManCity, Liverpool etc. biggrin.gif
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If Cesc leave, we all start back at stage 1. Sigh, what a crippling blow...
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 19 2010, 10:10 AM)
I am not referring to Casanova or beandy, but if one votes for 0%, I believe it's rather disrespectful, not to AW alone but to other managers whose teams are lower than Arsenal - such as Spurs, ManCity, Liverpool etc. biggrin.gif
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even the bottom three teams dont deserve 0%...btw i voted 75% though... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ May 19 2010, 09:26 AM)
0% must come from casanova n beandy...
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FYI I voted 50%
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QUOTE(locomotion @ May 19 2010, 10:09 AM)
i dun really trust the story..but if he really had to go, good luck and thanks for the service all these years..
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i hope arsenal will fight for every penny for fabregas..he can go but not for cheap..bcause he is on peak of his career...
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 10:13 AM)
FYI I voted 50%
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QUOTE(Phonzy @ May 19 2010, 10:09 AM)
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Look at MU. They are still flying high although Ronaldo & Tevez left the club last season.

Time to learn from MU & AF.


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even the bottom three teams dont deserve 0%...btw i voted 75% though... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 10:16 AM)
Look at MU. They are still flying high although Ronaldo & Tevez left the club last season.

Time to learn from MU & AF.


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Pardon me, but in last season (2009/10), did Arsenal finish very far from MU/SAF? I think we are just a little bit behind, not really that bad for my standard smile.gif (maybe not for yours)
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Yup, C. Ronaldo left, but they have Rooney. Fabregas leaves, we have Bendtner, which is so much slower than rooney. Haih... doh.gif

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 19 2010, 10:20 AM)
Pardon me, but in last season (2009/10), did Arsenal finish very far from MU/SAF? I think we are just a little bit behind, not really that bad for my standard smile.gif (maybe not for yours)
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Yes little behind but still we lost to them twice & at least they won league cup
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 10:13 AM)
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 10:16 AM)
Look at MU. They are still flying high although Ronaldo & Tevez left the club last season.

Time to learn from MU & AF.


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how high? demm..lose title with 1 point is a disgrace n heartbroken..

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QUOTE(isma45 @ May 19 2010, 10:23 AM)
how high? demm..lose title with 1 point is a disgrace n heartbroken..
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My point is the strength of MU vs Arsenal. Arsenal is still not able to finish above MU in EPL in the last 4 seasons. Something that needs to be corrected & look into.
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if fabs ever wanna leave, its gonna be 40M + 2 players or 60M cash 1 year installment.
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ May 19 2010, 10:52 AM)
if fabs ever wanna leave, its gonna be 40M + 2 players or 60M cash 1 year installment.
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What players can they give us?and if cash means no installment..give it all up front or go away..though I would prefer Fabs staying more since we are still in the rebuilding phase..
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QUOTE(liez @ May 19 2010, 09:07 AM)
Anyone knows whether Arsenal's new kit is ready??? And how it looks like???
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There are many rumours flying around but none of them are concrete at the moment. Arsenalinsider was pretty spot on last season with the white-grey third kit, and this time they are predicting a yellow away kit with maroon pinstripes. Very funny combination, I'd say yellow with navy pinstripes look much better. Home kit wise, rumours are saying the return of full white sleeves.

I reckon we'll probably end up using one of the Nike templates for the world cup kits. There are two major ones at the moment - the one with a long stripe on the sleeve which Brazil is using, or the other one with short horizontal stripes on the end of the sleeve like Portugal & Australia.
http://www.footballshirtculture.com/10/11-...-team-kits.html

QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 19 2010, 10:10 AM)
I am not referring to Casanova or beandy, but if one votes for 0%, I believe it's rather disrespectful, not to AW alone but to other managers whose teams are lower than Arsenal - such as Spurs, ManCity, Liverpool etc. biggrin.gif
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I share the sentiment that anyone who voted 0% is simply trolling; although in a public poll if there is such option then there will be people choosing it for the heck of it.

Anyway it's the first time I voted something other than null vote. I chose 75% as I was overally satisfied with le Boss's contributions this season considering various arduous factors, yet there are some decisions I felt could have been dealt with better - such as certain substitutions and fielding players.

Lots and lots of Fabs to Barca news today.... it seems like they all originated from tabloids like thesun and Spanish media, stemming from last week's quotes from Fabs that he wanted to sort out his contract before the world cup. I can only say, you need to be selective and smart in reading these articles. Any talks about replacing him or changing the entire gameplan can start after he has truly departed, otherwise it's just worrying for nothing.

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maybe barca will pay 40mill + yaya toure + henry? hehee
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how high? demm..lose title with 1 point is a disgrace n heartbroken..
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To be frank, i should give credit to them on the "lucky" side part (Our side injuries and stuff). From the start of the season itself, they already moaning about CR and yet they still be able to challenge the title till the very end. I don't think it has anything to do with CR either, it is just that the emergence of Man City as their biggest rival. I'd say, it won't be that lucky next season for them.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 10:22 AM)
Yes little behind but still WE lost to them twice & at least they won league cup
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we??? i though u not arsenal right??? u ac milan,real madrid,barcelona,selangor n samsung bluewings....
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 19 2010, 10:55 AM)
There are many rumours flying around but none of them are concrete at the moment. Arsenalinsider was pretty spot on last season with the white-grey third kit, and this time they are predicting a yellow away kit with maroon pinstripes. Very funny combination, I'd say yellow with navy pinstripes look much better. Home kit wise, rumours are saying the return of full white sleeves.

I reckon we'll probably end up using one of the Nike templates for the world cup kits. There are two major ones at the moment - the one with a long stripe on the sleeve which Brazil is using, or the other one with short horizontal stripes on the end of the sleeve like Portugal & Australia.
http://www.footballshirtculture.com/10/11-...-team-kits.html

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that site shows pato wear brasil's jersey...sadly for him...dunga has omitted him
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 19 2010, 10:55 AM)
There are many rumours flying around but none of them are concrete at the moment. Arsenalinsider was pretty spot on last season with the white-grey third kit, and this time they are predicting a yellow away kit with maroon pinstripes. Very funny combination, I'd say yellow with navy pinstripes look much better. Home kit wise, rumours are saying the return of full white sleeves.

I reckon we'll probably end up using one of the Nike templates for the world cup kits. There are two major ones at the moment - the one with a long stripe on the sleeve which Brazil is using, or the other one with short horizontal stripes on the end of the sleeve like Portugal & Australia.
http://www.footballshirtculture.com/10/11-...-team-kits.html
yeah..bring back the full white sleeve..its the traditional design from early days..i hate the current jersey..dem nike is always toying around with our jersey vmad.gif

QUOTE(isma45 @ May 19 2010, 11:03 AM)
maybe barca will pay 40mill + yaya toure + henry? hehee
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i'd say 70mil for fab plus free diaby or denilson for them laugh.gif no yaya and no henry but yes if bojan or pique
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i voted 50%
simply because we improved this season compared to season 2008/2009
75% is when we win perhaps an FA Cup
100% is if we win the BPL and/or UCL biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ May 19 2010, 11:05 AM)
we??? i though u not arsenal right??? u ac milan,real madrid,barcelona,selangor n samsung bluewings....
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Oh really... U got any problem with that?
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QUOTE(judojuddy @ May 19 2010, 11:11 AM)
yeah..bring back the full white sleeve..its the traditional design from early days..i hate the current jersey..dem nike is always toying around with our jersey  vmad.gif
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Traditional?

Tradition/Tribute is just marketing gimmick by the manufacturers. Herbert Chapman added white sleeves to our red jersey, but his "tribute" was a full white kit. Don't get me wrong, I do think the white jersey looks classy but the association with Chapman is pure hoohah. This season's Arsenham third kit is even more insane.

The current one looks very contemporary but many hate the red sleeves, calling it a Charlton kit. I think it's an absurd excuse to hate it - the 91/92 home kit had half red sleeves as well.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 11:22 AM)
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ya so many problem....
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Yaya + Bojan + 35M = Bon voyage Cesc.

Pique is through and through barca and won't leave. So is Pedro.


Like i said, IF the rumors are true, wish Cesc all his luck in his career and many thanks for his contributions.

Even if he leaves, he's nowhere near the Judas scum Cashley. Certainly cesc won't be a legend, but should still be regarded as a hero!
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 19 2010, 11:23 AM)
Traditional?

Tradition/Tribute is just marketing gimmick by the manufacturers. Herbert Chapman added white sleeves to our red jersey, but his "tribute" was a full white kit. Don't get me wrong, I do think the white jersey looks classy but the association with Chapman is pure hoohah. This season's Arsenham third kit is even more insane.

The current one looks very contemporary but many hate the red sleeves, calling it a Charlton kit. I think it's an absurd excuse to hate it - the 91/92 home kit had half red sleeves as well.
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for me the best kit is the invincibles..all home, away and alternate kits..and also the maroon highbury version.

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ya so many problem....
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Well, if AW really do let Fabs go, I would highly doubt players like Yaya, Pique, Bojan, Pedro or few other would join Arsenal even if Barca is willing to trade them. Selling our talisman plus captain is like telling players out there, "Hey, we are in deep trouble, if you join our club, you wont win anything because we don't have high ambition."


Honestly speaking, if AW do sell Fabs, specially at such a young age, surely something must be really wrong with him. Although we may get few millions out of it, but I highly doubt that would cover up the negative side of this transfer. Fabs is the prolific player and captain for Arsenal, what more he is only 23 year old. What would fans, other players think of Arsenal if Fabs do get sell? Think about it.

Let me ask you guys, if MU sell Rooney, or Chelsea selling Lampard and Terry, or Liverpool selling Gerrald, what would the first thing come into you guys mind? Surely it would be "This club selling their talisman, must be facing some big problem." am I right?

Although Arsenal is in debt, but this should not be a problem for the club, it not like the bank want you to pay within 5 year or so. I believe the loan is over a long period of time, so there should actually be no rush in clearing off the debt. It like when we buy a house, we ask for a loan, of course the loan will be as long as 20 years or more, so as long as we pay the loan monthly, there actually no reason why we should face any problem with the debt, specially if our income can cover the loan debt plus still enable us to spend on food and such.

Still, I feel AW wont sell Fabs, Arsenal wont sell Fabs, the negative effect outweigh any possible benefits that can come from such transfer. Think about it, playing with Fabs should be one of the reason why we were able to attract talented players to our club, it show our club have ambition.

If Fabs do get sell, in no time, maybe even in the same season, players like Ashavin and Rosicky would leave Arsenal. Heck I think RvP, Sagna, and Vermy would leave Arsenal, may even be in the same season. Maybe Arsenal most loyal player Clichy would leave if such thing happen. Not even 100m pound plus 6 years time can help us rebuild this team.

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Well, if AW really do let Fabs go, I would highly doubt players like Yaya, Pique, Bojan, Pedro or few other would join Arsenal even if Barca is willing to trade them. Selling our talisman plus captain is like telling players out there, "Hey, we are in deep trouble, if you join our club, you wont win anything because we don't have high ambition."
Honestly speaking, if AW do sell Fabs, specially at such a young age, surely something must be really wrong with him. Although we may get few millions out of it, but I highly doubt that would cover up the negative side of this transfer. Fabs is the prolific player and captain for Arsenal, what more he is only 23 year old. What would fans, other players think of Arsenal if Fabs do get sell? Think about it.

Let me ask you guys, if MU sell Rooney, or Chelsea selling Lampard and Terry, or Liverpool selling Gerrald, what would the first thing come into you guys mind? Surely it would be "This club selling their talisman, must be facing some big problem." am I right?

Although Arsenal is in debt, but this should not be a problem for the club, it not like the bank want you to pay within 5 year or so. I believe the loan is over a long period of time, so there should actually be no rush in clearing off the debt. It like when we buy a house, we ask for a loan, of course the loan will be as long as 20 years or more, so as long as we pay the loan monthly, there actually no reason why we should face any problem with the debt, specially if our income can cover the loan debt plus still enable us to spend on food and such.

Still, I feel AW wont sell Fabs, Arsenal wont sell Fabs, the negative effect outweigh any possible benefits that can come from such transfer. Think about it, playing with Fabs should be one of the reason why we were able to attract talented players to our club, it show our club have ambition.

If Fabs do get sell, in no time, maybe even in the same season, players like Ashavin and Rosicky would leave Arsenal. Heck I think RvP, Sagna,  and Vermy would leave Arsenal, may even be in the same season. Maybe Arsenal most loyal player Clichy would leave if such thing happen. Not even 100m pound plus 6 years time can help us rebuild this team.
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QUOTE(liez @ May 19 2010, 11:58 AM)
Wenger don't have to sell him...Fabregas himself want to go.
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Well, if tat true, I hope AW and Arsenal should think of ways to keep him. The negative effect is just too negative.


Unless, if Fabs go, arsenal win the EPL and UCL together next season, then maybe it wont be that bad.

Just an honest opinion of mine, hope no one would be offended.
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i heard we only get 30m for fabregas.. he really leaving next season..
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i heard we only get 30m for fabregas.. he really leaving next season..
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QUOTE(liez @ May 19 2010, 12:08 PM)
hopefully we get some players from them. Valdes to arsenal  brows.gif
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Btw, lucky the source of the news is from the Sun, if it official from Arsenal.com, then it would really be sweat.gif
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yea.. hope arsene not spend to buy young player again..unless he superwonderkid.. or maybe Denilson will say "I can fill Fabregas boots"..
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i heard we only get 30m for fabregas.. he really leaving next season..
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30mil for fab(23 yo) is an insult..they buy villa(29 yo) for 42mil..if he really were to leave i hope AW/board nego to maximize the benefit of the transfer.if they were to accept 30mil, is really really really...i dun know what to say..I HATE BARCELONA!
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QUOTE(locomotion @ May 19 2010, 12:11 PM)
yea.. hope arsene not spend to buy young player again..unless he superwonderkid.. or maybe Denilson will say "I can fill Fabregas boots"..
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If Denilson say that, it would be the joke of the season laugh.gif


I were actually hoping Ramsey to be somewhat be a threat to Fabs position in the team this season when he have a fine string of performance, shame he get injured. cry.gif


QUOTE(judojuddy @ May 19 2010, 12:16 PM)
30mil for fab(23 yo) is an insult..they buy villa(29 yo) for 42mil..if he really were to leave i hope AW/board nego to maximize the benefit of the transfer.if they were to accept 30mil, is really really really...i dun know what to say..I HATE BARCELONA!
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Agree, 30m is just too little for Fabregas who is so so so important to Arsenal.

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QUOTE(judojuddy @ May 19 2010, 12:16 PM)
30mil for fab(23 yo) is an insult..they buy villa(29 yo) for 42mil..if he really were to leave i hope AW/board nego to maximize the benefit of the transfer.if they were to accept 30mil, is really really really...i dun know what to say..I HATE BARCELONA!
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i just heard 30m..not sure the final firm price.. it could be up to 50m.. I also hate barca's the actors!
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some says they also will give us ibrahimovic
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why la casanova?
you do know that you are in a way indirectly being an idiot right
to begin with you are not an Arsenal fan,
and to continuously post something that discomforts arguably majority of the Arsenal fan's, you must feel good right.
even if your post make sense, it no longer serve as one when you are doing it continuously
and i gotta admit you are one rare breed, never have i ever seen an Arsenal fan criticizing the club they support continuously day in day out. even liverpool fan's that havent won the BPL for god knows how long.. dont behave that way.
so, appreciate your troll moments here, at the same time control yourself.
one right dont make 2 wrong. you have done that over and over again
and the lamest reply from you is "ive got most of it right" doh.gif
i could have said the same, i got most of my predictions right that your club will not win BPL or UCL this season.
i believe you get what i mean.
so please la, before you smile...take a good look at the mirror. find for that hidden vegetable particle between your teeth

this post consider very friendly d, i dont want to be that aggresive to you, but only to remind you.
lunch time!



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QUOTE(jim18992 @ May 19 2010, 11:46 AM)
Well, if AW really do let Fabs go, I would highly doubt players like Yaya, Pique, Bojan, Pedro or few other would join Arsenal even if Barca is willing to trade them. Selling our talisman plus captain is like telling players out there, "Hey, we are in deep trouble, if you join our club, you wont win anything because we don't have high ambition."
Honestly speaking, if AW do sell Fabs, specially at such a young age, surely something must be really wrong with him. Although we may get few millions out of it, but I highly doubt that would cover up the negative side of this transfer. Fabs is the prolific player and captain for Arsenal, what more he is only 23 year old. What would fans, other players think of Arsenal if Fabs do get sell? Think about it.

Let me ask you guys, if MU sell Rooney, or Chelsea selling Lampard and Terry, or Liverpool selling Gerrald, what would the first thing come into you guys mind? Surely it would be "This club selling their talisman, must be facing some big problem." am I right?

Although Arsenal is in debt, but this should not be a problem for the club, it not like the bank want you to pay within 5 year or so. I believe the loan is over a long period of time, so there should actually be no rush in clearing off the debt. It like when we buy a house, we ask for a loan, of course the loan will be as long as 20 years or more, so as long as we pay the loan monthly, there actually no reason why we should face any problem with the debt, specially if our income can cover the loan debt plus still enable us to spend on food and such.

Still, I feel AW wont sell Fabs, Arsenal wont sell Fabs, the negative effect outweigh any possible benefits that can come from such transfer. Think about it, playing with Fabs should be one of the reason why we were able to attract talented players to our club, it show our club have ambition.

If Fabs do get sell, in no time, maybe even in the same season, players like Ashavin and Rosicky would leave Arsenal. Heck I think RvP, Sagna,  and Vermy would leave Arsenal, may even be in the same season. Maybe Arsenal most loyal player Clichy would leave if such thing happen. Not even 100m pound plus 6 years time can help us rebuild this team.
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It's best for Fabs to leave. He is the jinx in the team for not winning trophies lately. Let the jinx fly away from Emirates.

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why la casanova?
you do know that you are in a way indirectly being an idiot right
to begin with you are not an Arsenal fan,
and to continuously post something that discomforts arguably majority of the Arsenal fan's, you must feel good right.
even if your post make sense, it no longer serve as one when you are doing it continuously
and i gotta admit you are one rare breed, never have i ever seen an Arsenal fan criticizing the club they support continuously day in day out. even liverpool fan's that havent won the BPL for god knows how long.. dont behave that way.
so, appreciate your troll moments here, at the same time control yourself.
one right dont make 2 wrong. you have done that over and over again
and the lamest reply from you is "ive got most of it right"  doh.gif
i could have said the same, i got most of my predictions right that your club will not win BPL or UCL this season.
i believe you get what i mean.
so please la, before you smile...take a good look at the mirror. find for that hidden vegetable particle between your teeth

this post consider very friendly d, i dont want to be that aggresive to you, but only to remind you.
lunch time!
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QUOTE(judojuddy @ May 19 2010, 12:16 PM)
30mil for fab(23 yo) is an insult..they buy villa(29 yo) for 42mil..if he really were to leave i hope AW/board nego to maximize the benefit of the transfer.if they were to accept 30mil, is really really really...i dun know what to say..I HATE BARCELONA!
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They are paying 42m for villa becoz they really in urgent needing a forward coz to them ibrahim is a flop...

they are paying us 30m simply becoz they DONT NEED fabregas ...They have Jonathan dos Santos, Thiago Alcántara and Sergi Roberto to replace Xavi...It means....THey don't really need fabregas although its good if he can join them so he can be useful somehow if anything happen.

QUOTE(vandetta_10 @ May 19 2010, 12:28 PM)
some says they also will give us ibrahimovic
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We got Walcott, Bendtner, Chamakh, RVP....why do we need more forward...If he comes....some of our forward will have to sit in bench??? sweat.gif We need midfielders....so it will be good if they let us choose any 3 youth midfielders from their youth system.

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They are paying 42m for villa becoz they really in urgent needing a forward coz to them ibrahim is a flop...

they are paying us 30m simply becoz they DONT NEED fabregas ...They have Jonathan dos Santos, Thiago Alcántara and Sergi Roberto to replace Xavi...It means....THey don't really need fabregas although its good if he can join them so he can be useful somehow if anything happen.
We got Walcott, Bendtner, Chamakh, RVP....why do we need more forward...If he comes....some of our forward will have to sit in bench???  sweat.gif We need midfielders....so it will be good if they let us choose any 3 youth midfielders from their youth system.
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No, I rather not get one of the midfielder from their youth system. First because we already got few talented midfielder in our youth system, and second I dont want Barca buying back those player when we finish refine them. Sometime I feel Barca make our club look like we are feeder club to them doh.gif

I rather counter offer them by trading Fabs plus 20m for Messi, they want our talisman, then they should give us their talisman too.

Anyway, we should get English players or players from the UK to be our vital players, it seem clubs outside of England have no interest in buying UK born players laugh.gif
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aih...no mood today... even i know fab goin 2 leave 1 day.. but its too soon for me.. waitla until 29


Added on May 19, 2010, 12:50 pmi mean..waitla until his age reach 29..

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QUOTE(liez @ May 19 2010, 12:40 PM)
They are paying 42m for villa becoz they really in urgent needing a forward coz to them ibrahim is a flop...

they are paying us 30m simply becoz they DONT NEED fabregas ...They have Jonathan dos Santos, Thiago Alcántara and Sergi Roberto to replace Xavi...It means....THey don't really need fabregas although its good if he can join them so he can be useful somehow if anything happen.
We got Walcott, Bendtner, Chamakh, RVP....why do we need more forward...If he comes....some of our forward will have to sit in bench???  sweat.gif We need midfielders....so it will be good if they let us choose any 3 youth midfielders from their youth system.
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i dun think dat urgent la..sumore valencia is in financial problem..surely they will accept any reasonable bid (30mil is reasonable what..) but for 42mil i wud rather go for aguero..

but i agree with they dun need fab..dis is their fooking shithead president trying to win election campaign.

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Hey guys...

Does it sound so serious?

When Henry left, Viera left.. our talisman.. so if Fab really want to leave, there is nothing we can do about it.. just that hope AW can spend wisely for another Fab.. (Like Goucuff, sorry if wrong spelling)


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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ May 19 2010, 01:06 PM)
Hey guys...

Does it sound so serious?

When Henry left, Viera left.. our talisman.. so if Fab really want to leave, there is nothing we can do about it.. just that hope AW can spend wisely for another Fab.. (Like Goucuff, sorry if wrong spelling)
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For Henry and Viera case, at least we sell them after they pass their prime by being in service for Arsenal. Fabs on the other hand, he is still young, still so much to offer to Arsenal. That why really sweat.gif Plus, when Henry and Viera leave, we at least have some possible candidate to replace them, Fabs for Viera while RvP or Adebayor for Henry. But tell me now, who look close enough to replace Fabs that is not out injured currently?
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Maybe Fran Merida?
But I doubt he'll ever be as classy as Fabregas
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Maybe Fran Merida?
But I doubt he'll ever be as classy as Fabregas
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Maybe Fran Merida?
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merida and vela are two player i dun see any effect/future in the team..
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QUOTE(liez @ May 19 2010, 12:40 PM)
We got Walcott, Bendtner, Chamakh, RVP....why do we need more forward...If he comes....some of our forward will have to sit in bench???  sweat.gif We need midfielders....so it will be good if they let us choose any 3 youth midfielders from their youth system.
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i personally think Ibra far more better than Walcott, Bendtner, Chamakh.. he can partner RvP, why not? mellow.gif

QUOTE(jim18992 @ May 19 2010, 12:49 PM)
1. I rather counter offer them by trading Fabs plus 20m for Messi, they want our talisman, then they should give us their talisman too.
2. Anyway, we should get English players or players from the UK to be our vital players, it seem clubs outside of England have no interest in buying UK born players laugh.gif
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1. hey, man... Braca dun need cash, n they dun really need Cesc... so why they let go Messi? Ridiculous.. plus impossible... i wud only c it after 10 years from now...
2. which british player worth? ... i can't think 1 value buy...

QUOTE(rosicky_return @ May 19 2010, 01:06 PM)
Hey guys...

Does it sound so serious?

When Henry left, Viera left.. our talisman.. so if Fab really want to leave, there is nothing we can do about it.. just that hope AW can spend wisely for another Fab.. (Like Goucuff, sorry if wrong spelling)
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ya... exactly... no 1 can't be replace.. i know it made an impact, but doesn't measn cesc = arsenal... so save time on scouting... there should be someone else fit the seat. smile.gif

QUOTE(jim18992 @ May 19 2010, 01:09 PM)
who look close enough to replace Fabs that is not out injured currently?
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i personally think there are 2... Ramsey & Wilshere... but of course need time to grow, both talent n potential.

QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 01:27 PM)
He is leaving Arsenal by end of this month.
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so sad man... some more i just bought Arsenal jersey with cesc name behind >"<
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 19 2010, 01:27 PM)
He is leaving Arsenal by end of this month.
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I think Cesc has made the right decision to abandon the sinking ship.

Remember..dont blame barca or anyone..dont blame Cesc.

He just sees there are no future here.. a complete waste of time hafing to play alongside craps like diaby denilson eboue bendtner...
when he look at the crap level of the team,look at the goalkeeper,look at sylvest,look at kids look at that sick Vanpersie and no other backup,and look at that empty dusty cabinet... WHO DONT LEAVE?

Great move..i support!

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so sad man... some more i just bought Arsenal jersey with cesc name behind >"<
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 02:40 PM)
I think Cesc has made the right decision to abandon the sinking ship.

Remember..dont blame barca or anyone..dont blame Cesc.

He just sees there are no future here.. a complete waste of time hafing to play alongside craps like diaby denilson eboue bendtner...
when he look at the crap level of the team,look at the goalkeeper,look at sylvest,look at kids look at that sick Vanpersie and no other backup,and look at that empty dusty cabinet... WHO DONT LEAVE?

Great move..i support!
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 02:40 PM)
I think Cesc has made the right decision to abandon the sinking ship.

Remember..dont blame barca or anyone..dont blame Cesc.

He just sees there are no future here.. a complete waste of time hafing to play alongside craps like diaby denilson eboue bendtner...
when he look at the crap level of the team,look at the goalkeeper,look at sylvest,look at kids look at that sick Vanpersie and no other backup,and look at that empty dusty cabinet... WHO DONT LEAVE?

Great move..i support!
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U forgot look at arsenal wannabe manager



Btw, the cesc fabregas thing is crap. More like Barca paid the newspaper to lure him back there.

Oh come on, Fabregas said before he needs to win something with Arsenal before leaving for any other clubs. Or another reason would be AW leave Arsenal.

Thankfully AA23 rumours is gone at the moment. My favourite special player. thumbup.gif
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if its not at soccernet..isn't happening..kthxbai.. smile.gif
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a little experiment: how to make mr B getting emo

i.disagree wif his post
ii.disagree wif his post
iii.disagree wif his post

then u'll he'll post wif 'great' word
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aiyo.. at most he only can 'bising bising' here..

If I'm AW, i will tell him: Who the hell u think u are?... NATO(talk only).. can only complain complain and complain...

lol...
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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ May 19 2010, 03:22 PM)
aiyo.. at most he only can 'bising bising' here..

If I'm AW, i will tell him: Who the hell u think u are?... NATO(talk only).. can only complain complain and complain...

lol...
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At least i speak the truth with some actual analytical assessment..

While you lots can only deny deny and deny LOL

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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 03:24 PM)
At least i speak the truth with analytical assessment..

While you lots can only deny deny and deny LOL
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cant remember anything in Arsenal Team that u like..

For us, u are just a Milan Fan who come to Arsenal Thread and complain and show how good u will be...

I don't think Arsenal are sinking... at least i saw hope is there compare to AGING Milan team.. that's we call sinking ship...

Buy big guarantee success?...
(if AW spend like Man City or Real Madrid and still out of UCL or no trophy is consider failure)


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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ May 19 2010, 03:33 PM)
cant remember anything in Arsenal Team that u like..

For us, u are just a Milan Fan who come to Arsenal Thread and complain and show how good u will be...

I don't think Arsenal are sinking... at least i saw hope is there compare to AGING Milan team.. that's we call sinking ship...
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use some brain and you know Milan will buy players and make the team looks good again.
Again afterall they jsut won the champions league and world club cup double 3 years back..What did arsenal did for 5 years? LOl the last thing was just the fa cup.
So dont make urself looks stupid to compare this 2 team.

Sad to say the thing i like about Arsenal destroyed by Arsene wenger..For once u are right nothing to be like at this moment..who like craps afterall??

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a little experiment: how to make mr B getting emo

i.disagree wif his post
ii.disagree wif his post
iii.disagree wif his post

then u'll he'll post wif 'great' word
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 03:35 PM)
use some brain and you know Milan will buy players and make the team looks good again.
Again afterall they jsut won the champions league and world club cup double 3 years back..What did arsenal did for 5 years? LOl the last thing was just the fa cup.
So dont make urself looks stupid to compare this 2 team.

Sad to say the thing i like about Arsenal destroyed by Arsene wenger..For once u are right nothing to be like at this moment..who like craps afterall??
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Is true that nothing can compare between this 2 team.. cos Milan can only attract player like Berbatov.. you can deny and deny and keep deny.. (or keep ask me to use my brain)..

the only thing that's true is we all dun like craps like u...


QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 03:35 PM)
use some brain and you know Milan will buy players and make the team looks good again.


use ur brain.. if Fab is confirm leaving.. Arsenal will oso buy team and look good again.. at least have player got stamina to play 90mins...

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LOL! I really don't understand the "sinking" term in your context. The last time we were below Top4 was like 1994, 12th then. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 03:35 PM)
use some brain and you know Milan will buy players and make the team looks good again.
Again afterall they jsut won the champions league and world club cup double 3 years back..What did arsenal did for 5 years? LOl the last thing was just the fa cup.
So dont make urself looks stupid to compare this 2 team.

Sad to say the thing i like about Arsenal destroyed by Arsene wenger..For once u are right nothing to be like at this moment..who like craps afterall??
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he's getting emo...
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emo boy came here and use personal attacks on other. stupid lah, dont use brain lah. come on la, cant u just be polite so that we can have healthy discussion.sigh~
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Is all fcuk up under Arsene management!
keep leaving in DENIAL and Arsene Wonderland...thats what you all do best..denial lol!
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depends how u wanna look at him:

in financial management perspective, can any1 deny he is world ranking 1 manager, especially for past 1 decade? blush.gif tats d main reason why Arsenal board never ever made decision to fire him.

well, if talk about result... he failed because never deliver right result... even though this season slightly better compare last season; in overall, Arsenal is maintain but can't move forward, this is the truth if we follow current trend..

Now i got 1 question.. who wan billionaire foreigner buy Arsenal, invest tons of cash, join RM,Chelsea n ManCity shopping over crazy MEGA sales market? BUT it also never guarantee the right result...

OR remain eco-way and get some matured player transforme to competed team...

---out of topic---

for me, im no longer enjoy in watching football, i was an Arsenal fans(98-08), but now i've no feeling over football... lack of passion.. anyhow, only concern the Arsenal news.
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ May 19 2010, 03:52 PM)
emo boy came here and use personal attacks on other. stupid lah, dont use brain lah. come on la, cant u just be polite so that we can have healthy discussion.sigh~
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QUOTE(vandetta_10 @ May 19 2010, 03:49 PM)
he's getting emo...
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who selling pop corn today?


In my opinion, Arsenal not sinking but rising instead (last season 4th place, this season 3rd). We're getting better & better in financial aspect too.

i know that most of our opponent fans teasing us in the front, but at the same time admire AW too as he is the only manager in BPL that spend less & earn more.
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QUOTE(waynewong79 @ May 19 2010, 03:59 PM)
add more oil please tongue.gif

who selling pop corn today?
In my opinion, Arsenal not sinking but rising instead (last season 4th place, this season 3rd). We're getting better & better in financial aspect too.

i know that most of our opponent fans teasing us in the front, but at the same time admire AW too as he is the only manager in BPL that spend less & earn more.
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popcorn anyone?come n see emo guy talking...
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 04:09 PM)
You lots are disgusting to even call fans...now u are very happy the team spend less and qualify for champions league...

So ambitious...

But pls stop tell United or Chelsea that Arsenal is challenging them for titles.You just make yourself looks stupid!
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look at the regular poster like this dumb..all he does is try to heat up arguments but unable to contribute into subjective conversation...freaking dumb!
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 02:52 PM)
i tell u what..if the teeam have real ambition and keep winning things and dont become like a seliing team (Arsene concept) , the players will stay.
Remember Viera Henry before they leave they keep asking Arsene to strengthen but that stubborn Arse just cant meet their demand and refuse to offer long contracts to some.
This is all mis management.
Just imagine if Alex ferguson kind of mentality manager incharge instead..he will keep signing big players and make the core experience player stays.That means Viera,Henry,Pires etc would still be in the team today.

Is all fcuk up under Arsene management!


Added on May 19, 2010, 3:02 pm

keep leaving in DENIAL and Arsene Wonderland...thats what you all do best..denial lol!
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If Vieira, Henry and Pires is still in the team today, then Fabregas and so many others will not be the player they are today. Hindsight is a wonderful but if there a guarantee that if these players are still at Arsenal, that we would've won trophies? That is a baseless argument my friend.
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i already reported twice liao for assistant manager wannabe


now i'm turned to reporter

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the emo meter is getting higher...he started to use bad words when someone not agree wif him...lalala


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i already reported twice liao for assistant manager wannabe
now i'm turned to reporter
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If you can only sign one player for Arsenal, who would you sign?
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i already reported twice liao for assistant manager wannabe
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you're the man - mozart!! rclxms.gif
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If you can only sign one player for Arsenal, who would you sign?
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haha.. dat B gettin angrier n angrier at us.. hey cilaka guy.. say what u wanna say.. hate what level u wanna hate.. but arsenal will always remain in our heart!! support will never ends!!
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haha.. dat B gettin angrier n angrier at us.. hey cilaka guy.. say what u wanna say.. hate what level u wanna hate.. but arsenal will always remain in our heart!! support will never ends!!
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 04:19 PM)
use your stupid brains.. If they are still around they use to rotate with young players.
Thats wat call blending a balance team. Exactly how united keep winning things.
Look at now?Yes u get to groom up the kids faster but Arsenal became only shit.

Us your brain abit man.
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If you can only sign one player for Arsenal, who would you sign?
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Messi lar of course...Lol

btw....I find the starting of this thread so awfully ironic. as the 1st poster of this new thread...My post was just below the ts's demand to keep the thread a peaceful ones.... few posts later the fight started... doh.gif
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If you can only sign one player for Arsenal, who would you sign?
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 04:19 PM)
use your stupid brains.. If they are still around they use to rotate with young players.
Thats wat call blending a balance team. Exactly how united keep winning things.
Look at now?Yes u get to groom up the kids faster but Arsenal became only shit.

Us your brain abit man.
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http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/...sms_ss=facebook

credible?
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GK: Arsenal and MU urgently needed one
Def: Arsenal urgently needed at least 2
MF, playmaker: Arsenal and Liverpool urgently needed (fab gone, xavi alonso gone)

We got one more position to strengthen now
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QUOTE(liez @ May 19 2010, 04:49 PM)
Messi lar of course...Lol

btw....I find the starting of this thread so awfully ironic. as the 1st poster of this new thread...My post was just below the ts's demand to keep the thread a peaceful ones.... few posts later the fight started... doh.gif
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anyhow, i hope Fabregas stays
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 19 2010, 04:09 PM)
You lots are disgusting to even call fans...now u are very happy the team spend less and qualify for champions league...

So ambitious...


But pls stop tell United or Chelsea that Arsenal is challenging them for titles.You just make yourself looks stupid!
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u r talking about AC Milan then...facepalmed.jpg

sry guise i hijack this thread awhile tongue.gif
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they just quoted fabregas few weeks ago comments.
nothing new actually.
50M for fabs.come one.haha.

emo boy gone already?
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QUOTE(liez @ May 19 2010, 04:49 PM)
Messi lar of course...Lol

btw....I find the starting of this thread so awfully ironic. as the 1st poster of this new thread...My post was just below the ts's demand to keep the thread a peaceful ones.... few posts later the fight started... doh.gif
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lol even Messi can't stop from Almunia/Fabianski conceding goals

This rumour about Fabregas going to Barca/Rmadrid always circling summer after summer. Before it was Vieira and Henry....
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i dun mind fabregas to go if barca can offer same price as cristiano ronaldo...
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i dun mind fabregas to go if barca can offer same price as cristiano ronaldo...
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guys dont you think we need better goalkeeper and defender..??

i suggest Julio Cesar[inter milan] ,

defender

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i dun mind fabregas to go if barca can offer same price as cristiano ronaldo...
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Don't underestimate the departure of Cesc will done to the team, it might be a huge destruction.

On the other hand, Arsene can release the power of Nasri or Rosicky to be the playmaker, with Cesc around, they hardly stand a chance.
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QUOTE(mengdez @ May 19 2010, 06:27 PM)
Don't underestimate the departure of Cesc will done to the team, it might be a huge destruction.

On the other hand, Arsene can release the power of Nasri or Rosicky to be the playmaker, with Cesc around, they hardly stand a chance.
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Nasri as the playmaker failed hard . I don't see much , if any throughballs or passing that can led to goalscoring from him . That's from the observation throughout the last few games without Cesc . sad.gif
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Didn't we get Yaya Toure? He is the REAL replacement for Veira.
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ May 19 2010, 06:35 PM)
Nasri as the playmaker failed hard . I don't see much , if any throughballs or passing that can led to goalscoring from him . That's from the observation throughout the last few games without Cesc .  sad.gif
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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ May 19 2010, 06:42 PM)
Yeah, thats because no one makes the runs. Fab + Nasri is a good combination because Fab always make runs and this would distract the defender and allowing Nasri more space and time for the pass/run.
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Ya, the odd thing is no 1 is making run into the box when needed this season. Other than RvP, Fabs and few of the more experience player in the team, no1 else making run into the box when one of their teammates is on the ball.


I remember few times, I saw Bendther outside of the penalty box dont know waiting for what when he should be in it waiting for crosses or pass. I remember few time going "Walao, what wrong with him? Why not in the box where he is needed doh.gif " in front of the TV laugh.gif


Anyway, there no confirmation if Fabs really going or not, so let just follow this like the Henry saga. I still remember that season, Henry for 16m sold to Barca when Darren Bent sold for 16.5 to Spurs.


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i voted 0%

no improvement

whatever that happened last season is repeated this season

and he successfully made fabregas say he wants to join barca

so i give him 0
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xavi is almost 30 already. need to adapt to English football and need to learn English language too.
and they wont give xavi to us. he's been with barca for a long time.
realistic target should be yaya + bojan.
but i doubt that would happen. even the story about cesc to barca is just still a rumours.
wait until WC start, it all will be gone into thin air and come back before the season kicks.
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David Villa has become the summer's first major transfer.
Barcelona have completed the signing of Valencia and Spain striker David Villa for a reported fee of £34.2 million. Meanwhile, Barcelona sporting director Txiki Begiristain accepts Arsenal will have the final say on whether Cesc Fabregas follows him to the club.

According to Soccernet.

AS IF THEY NEED MORE SKILLZ!!!
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is there any room for yaya in current wenger's side

during the great days of viera,henry....maybe but now with the attacking 4-3-3 formation he always employed,i don't think there's any

yaya isn't that young anyway.27 already
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 19 2010, 07:01 PM)
is there any room for yaya in current wenger's side

during the great days of viera,henry....maybe but now with the attacking 4-3-3 formation he always employed,i don't think there's any

yaya isn't that young anyway.27 already
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Age is not a problem, theres more experience with aged players.

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With Villa going to Barca, I do not think they will go for Cesc unless they want to be another Real
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I think with Villa already agreed a move to Barca, no doubt that Cesc will be their 2nd signing after this.. sleep.gif''
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villa and cesc... that's almost the entire spain team in barcelona. there's valdez in GK, puyol n pique in DF, xavi iniesta cesc(if) in MF, and villa pedro in FW.

i'm looking forward to see barcelona in the world cup final.

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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ May 19 2010, 07:37 PM)
villa and cesc... that's almost the entire spain team in barcelona. there's valdez in GK, puyol n pique in DF, xavi iniesta cesc(if) in MF, and villa pedro in FW.

i'm looking forward to see barcelona in the world cup final.
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spain = barca without messi?
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I hate this, if we lose Cesc and Wenger don't make any necessary changes to the team, it will be the same ol'story. And somehow Spanish league will be more exciting than the BPL cause everyone going to Spain, wtf?
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QUOTE(amalost @ May 19 2010, 07:56 PM)
I hate this, if we lose Cesc and Wenger don't make any necessary changes to the team, it will be the same ol'story. And somehow Spanish league will be more exciting than the BPL cause everyone going to Spain, wtf?
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suddenly all going nuts.
look at what all the media has successfully done
im glad i studied marketing laugh.gif
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suddenly all going nuts.
look at what all the media has successfully done
im glad i studied marketing  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(amalost @ May 19 2010, 07:56 PM)
I hate this, if we lose Cesc and Wenger don't make any necessary changes to the team, it will be the same ol'story. And somehow Spanish league will be more exciting than the BPL cause everyone going to Spain, wtf?
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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ May 19 2010, 08:05 PM)
Never liked the Spanish League mostly because theres no agression, everyone will just drop to the floor even if nothing happens.

Eg the sending off of Thiago Motta against Barcelona. Seriously What the f*@$?
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Without such news, no one will buy newspaper.  nod.gif
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what about Dunne guys? richard dunne?
he a good center back. got many EPL experience also.huhu
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those f*ckers keep on tapping up our players openly season after season

again, i hate them with passion. do piss off and show some respect you bunch of diving f*ckers!!!!!

for the record, just for the sake of argument i do not want Messi here either. he will taken out by some honest English players by the 5th game of the season. plus he's a diving f*ckers too
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We should salvage this historic moment.


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Their TV camera angles and commentator also failed.
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those f*ckers keep on tapping up our players openly season after season

again, i hate them with passion. do piss off and show some respect you bunch of diving f*ckers!!!!!

for the record, just for the sake of argument i do not want Messi here either. he will taken out by some honest English players by the 5th game of the season. plus he's a diving f*ckers too
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lol let's sell Merida too! Or we can't because he's already out of contract so will leave on free? Did he sign a new contract? Can anyone confirm this?
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I hope we have key players that stay long enough in Arsenal like Lampard for Chelsea , Gerrard for Liverpool and Giggs for MU . The kind of players that define the team .

Oh .. and F*ck Barca , Madrid please overcome them next season .

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I hope we have key players that stay long enough in Arsenal like Lampard for Chelsea , Gerrard for Liverpool and Giggs for MU . The kind of players that define the team .

Oh .. and F*ck Barca , Madrid please overcome them next season .
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If we do sell Cesc, i hope AW wont get youngster again. No point buying youngster to play with a bunch of average youngster and then sold any of the good youngster later on and rebuild again.

We buy youngster, train them to be the best, win nothing, and sold them at only 30m (estimated fabregas price if he decided to go).

A contrast to Man u whereby they buy ronaldo, win epl, CL and sold him for 80m. This is called money tongue.gif but too bad Man U is full of debt in the hand of Glazers.

If Ars was owed by them and with the result we had, I cant imagine wats gonna happen.

Well, this shows dat nothing is perfect. T.T
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Go la fab.if you really want to go then go.we still got nasri,ramsey,rosicky,arshavin.
but i do hope Arsenal tag him with high price plox.
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at least 60mil for cesc.. no way we accepting anything less!

+ yaya. ehehehe

then suddenly AW puts merida at cesc position and he actually can play in cesc role. hak hak... up yours barca! rclxms.gif

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Well actually there's really no end to this. Barca will just openly tap up our players whether we win trophies or not...put it this way - when we don't win trophies, they say that Cesc should leave us and join Barca to win some trophies; when we do win trophies, they can just as easily say that now that Cesc has won some trophies with us, he should be more ambitious and join Barca to win more trophies. Like it or not, the media is just going to play along with it regardless of the situation.

Cesc has time and time again reiterated his loyalty to Arsenal and how many more times does he need to do that before we are really convinced that he's not going?

If anything, the apparent lack of faith shown by the fans towards Cesc might be the main reason for him to leave if he's leaving this summer. Calling ourselves fans when we don't even show faith to Cesc who has time and time again said he's going nowhere? What kind of support is that?


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it's not that we lack faith in him.. he should've just shut up about barca. if anyone ask, "sorry, i'm 100% arsenal player"
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actually , if Cesc leave , i don't blame him lah. 7 years in arsenal, 2 trophies. barca 7 trophies, 2 years.

imagine la, you see your classmates all in primary school now millionaire, u still earning shit pay as a normal manager, sure tulan rite! haha
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Well bro sakaito, seeing how the media is currently frenzying about Cesc leaving for Barca story, I wouldn't at all be surprised that the media baited him to talk about Barca. After all, the story about Cesc leaving for Barca and painting us as a sinking ship is miles more interesting than Cesc staying with us. That said, perhaps Cesc can learn a lesson or two about PR and avoid the bait.

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Of course this was gold dust to any journalist looking for a simple story that could be replicated without work.  Today has been a perfect example.  Most of the broadcast media, and most media websites are running the Cesc to leave story, but when you look closely they are all using the same unattributed sources for Cesc’s statements.

You can also see this in the way BBC Radio 5 debate players leaving.  Last week one journo on the site said, “Arshavin’s obviously going – he says so every week.”

In fact he doesn’t – the media says so every week.  The media repeats itself, but this gives the half a dozen or so catastrophists who run the show the chance to find stories to run with.  In other words the media creates the story, brews up a storm, and the player thinks, “this is ludicrous,” and so says, “look, I don’t need this media stuff, I think I’d like to leave.”

In other words the action runs:

Catastrophists make up a story
Media pick up and repeat as if fact
Player eventually has enough and leaves
Put like that it is a total miracle that Arshavin and Cesc have survived this long.


Pretty much sums up the current situation.

http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/2010/05/h...gloom-movement/


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wow david villa!!! i bet zlatan will be warming the bench soon lol

i guess barca have found their new eto
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yea..and fabregas.............haiz...
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yea..and fabregas.............haiz...
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lol read too much stuffs from the media again?

everytime when the transfer market open cesc will link to barca or madrid... nothing new folks so calm down, sit back and watch

i put 10 bucks saying he will stay

i think cesc will be more impress if AW bring in some good guys

this is what i call it a mind game... cecs is telling AW to improve the facking squad or else i will.... yes we are running out of time smile.gif

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ May 19 2010, 10:41 PM)
actually , if Cesc leave , i don't blame him lah. 7 years in arsenal, 2 trophies. barca 7 trophies, 2 years.

imagine la, you see your classmates all in primary school now millionaire, u still earning shit pay as a normal manager, sure tulan rite! haha
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Fab must be so tired. Personally I can't blame him.
He is one of our longest serving players at this point and he has watched the team lose good players and deteriorate every season.
I would be quite saddened by his departure but then again he needs to win something.
You only get one career in life so if you've been waiting 6-7 years and it hasn't arrived, you might as well move on.

It most certainly doesn't get better than Barcelona so he might as well jump at the chance when he can.
I think that hammering by Barcelona must have made Fab do some serious thinking and reconsider his options.

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The Italian goalkeeper was strongly linked with a move away from Turin this summer. Reports in Italy claim Buffon could leave the Italian outfit after the World Cup and move to the Premier League.

But Buffon's agent Silvano Martina said: "I don't know what else to say with regards to Buffon as it seems that he is the only Juventus player who should leave.

"Considering the ongoing reports, I want to remind everyone that Buffon is under contract with Juve and that next season he will play at Juve.

"When he was asked hypothetically where he would want to play if he left Juve, he always said his first choice would be England, but there is nothing else.

"He never said he would leave.

"(Luigi) Del Neri is an intelligent coach and knows he can count on Buffon."

Del Neri is expected to be unveiled as the new Juventus manager later this week and already stated his wish to have Buffon in the team next season.

The 32-year-old Buffon is under contract with Juve until June 2013.
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Looks like Fab will be joining barca this summer. He didn't say he wants to stay. Sell him for the d@mn >=40Millions!! Then use 12Millions on Buffon, 15Millions on Yaya Toure, and the rest, get a CD
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Finally the jinx is leaving. Lets hope good fortune will come to Emirates after this.
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Wat the Fxxk!! why not Arsenal buying Messi....but Barca buying our Cesc...if Cesc leaving Arsenal...i am sure Arsenal cupless again for next season...want to waste another few years to build up the team again....damn...
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QUOTE(Lowyat @ May 20 2010, 08:23 AM)
Wat the Fxxk!! why not Arsenal buying Messi....but Barca buying our Cesc...if Cesc leaving Arsenal...i am sure Arsenal cupless again for next season...want to waste another few years to build up the team again....damn...
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 20 2010, 08:29 AM)
No Choice... Arsenal doens't have enough transfer budget to buy superstars. We can only make/create superstars but not buying an existing one.
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QUOTE(javeyho @ May 19 2010, 03:55 PM)
depends how u wanna look at him:

in financial management perspective, can any1 deny he is world ranking 1 manager, especially for past 1 decade?  blush.gif  tats d main reason why Arsenal board never ever made decision to fire him.

well, if talk about result... he failed because never deliver right result... even though this season slightly better compare last season; in overall, Arsenal is maintain but can't move forward, this is the truth if we follow current trend..

Now i got 1 question.. who wan billionaire foreigner buy Arsenal, invest tons of cash, join RM,Chelsea n ManCity shopping over crazy MEGA sales market? BUT it also never guarantee the right result...

OR remain eco-way and get some matured player transforme to competed team...

---out of topic---

for me, im no longer enjoy in watching football, i was an Arsenal fans(98-08), but now i've no feeling over football... lack of passion.. anyhow, only concern the Arsenal news.
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Then we look at BPL, where not only fierce competition is coming from outside the Big Four, but also debt. To be competitive, most english clubs spend more than they earn and trying too much to compete with big team salaries. Its frightening that a lot of english clubs are running out of cash and dropping like flies in the previous seasons.

I say Arsenal has it best because the board and the manager is looking towards the future and preventing what I call as doomsday for the football scene. How ironic is world cup that would supposeably raise the standards of the game, but at the same time inflate the cost of players and clubs. To make sense, when there is no balance and equality in the game, the lesser team will lose out in the race.
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QUOTE(Lowyat @ May 20 2010, 08:23 AM)
Wat the Fxxk!! why not Arsenal buying Messi....but Barca buying our Cesc...if Cesc leaving Arsenal...i am sure Arsenal cupless again for next season...want to waste another few years to build up the team again....damn...
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no la...i think arsenal should buy kaka n CR. I have rm20 in my cimb bank. You how much? we can help arsenal to buy them
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i can afford to help arsenal buy bambang pemangkas la, thats it
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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ May 20 2010, 08:36 AM)
cr8 is better than buying..
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Provided we don't end up feeding them to other clubs/buggers when they are still at their prime biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 20 2010, 09:01 AM)
no la...i think arsenal should buy kaka n CR. I have rm20 in my cimb bank. You how much? we can help arsenal to buy them
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QUOTE(Lowyat @ May 20 2010, 09:51 AM)
I better then you...i got RM20.01 in Maybank....
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shit la!!! is it true wut i read in kosmo??they said, fab insists arsenal to sell him to barca n he closest friend said, he really want to move!!...SH*t laaaaa...is it true? is it true???
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QUOTE(sufyian @ May 20 2010, 10:03 AM)
shit la!!! is it true wut i read in kosmo??they said, fab insists arsenal to sell him to barca n he closest friend said, he really want to move!!...SH*t laaaaa...is it true? is it true???
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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ May 20 2010, 09:56 AM)
really??? its show i better than u... i got RM21.01 in my pocket...
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Ya...u really better than me as i only got RM5 in my pocket...seriously...
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yes it is true. i just called fabregas.
of course journalist from kosmo can call fabregas too right?

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At least Fab does says he want to move...unlike our King Henry, 3days before he left, he said he is still with us
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QUOTE(Lowyat @ May 20 2010, 10:10 AM)
Ya...u really better than me as i only got RM5 in my pocket...seriously...
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Media always stated that Arsenal and Arsene Wenger like to "plucked" young gem from another club. But what about these super rich club who likes to "pluck" and unsettle other club important and superstar player like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea?
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I hope AW can convince Cesc to stay for at least one more season. Hopefully by then Ramsey is ready to take over the job. If Cesc really leave us, I think we should get Arteta.
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QUOTE(Phalanx @ May 19 2010, 10:30 PM)
If anything, the apparent lack of faith shown by the fans towards Cesc might be the main reason for him to leave if he's leaving this summer. Calling ourselves fans when we don't even show faith to Cesc who has time and time again said he's going nowhere? What kind of support is that?
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I can't help but think that this is one of the reasons that forced Ade to leave. Having said that, this doesn't change the fact that he is a ****liar who said different things to the fans and media and hence the hate is understandable.

QUOTE(sakaito @ May 19 2010, 10:35 PM)
it's not that we lack faith in him.. he should've just shut up about barca. if anyone ask, "sorry, i'm 100% arsenal player"
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He already did that many times to the extent that he probably is too bored to clarify things anymore.

Everybody is too worked up regarding Fabs. Yes, we all hate Barca for openly tapping up our captain, but their side has said that we hold the key to the deal. As long as we say no, they can't proceed. Nevertheless, le Boss is well known to sell players that he reckons have left the club mentally and emotionally. Ever since Titi left, I don't expect any player to remain at Arsenal for life anymore.

Enough with those baseless Fabs-Barca shit... let's appreciate what we have:
http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/2010/05/s...a-a-comparison/
I've previously mentioned that Eastmond might be the next reserve player pushing for a first team slot next season, but Nick is highly likely the player to make an impact next season. With Robin a surefire starter whenever fit, Chamakh will be Nick's main competitor if he manages to fit in seamlessly like Vermy/Bak. It'd be interesting to watch, especially with a player as hungry and confident as Nik.
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QUOTE(throx @ May 20 2010, 10:44 AM)
I hope AW can convince Cesc to stay for at least one more season. Hopefully by then Ramsey is ready to take over the job. If Cesc really leave us, I think we should get Arteta.
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If Cesc leave, i hope we can invest on a VERY good goalkeeper and a VERY good central defender to pair with TV.i have high hopes on Wilshere. everybody sees that during his tenure at Bolton. push Nasri to play in the middle. if le boss still with the idea of playing Nasri wide, bring a STEEL central midfielder to replace Cesc. thats my 2 cents. Camakh deal will be announcd tomorrow ~happy.gifv
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I am not sure how true is the news of Fab joining Barca. Well, i'm just giving a thought to myself why would Fab would wanna join Barca when he's doing superb at Arsenal.

Is he another glory hunter ? I guess nowdays, loyalty is so much underrated compared to winning trophies. Its such a sad situation indeed. whistling.gif
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and yeah, i voted for 75% for the score card. I don't really think he's to blame for us going home with nothing this season, the youngsters were much disappointing. They did not deliver.
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without Cesc Fabregas in Arsenal, i dunno who to look up for in Arsenal's squad...

Frankly speaking he's the one that keep me watching Arsenal's match every week and even midnight matches...

previously, we had good players to look out for when one gone; Marc Overmars, Viera, Pires, Henry, Fabregas through out the year of me watching Arsenal from childhood till now... but now...... Van Persie? this guy is a plastic man, i dun see him much in action often.....

Fabregas is the heartbeat of Arsenal, without him, my passion towards Arsenal will fade and i afraid soon my interest towards Arsenal and football will die altogether. It' really getting boring in Arsenal now... sad.gif
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 20 2010, 10:45 AM)
I can't help but think that this is one of the reasons that forced Ade to leave. Having said that, this doesn't change the fact that he is a ****liar who said different things to the fans and media and hence the hate is understandable.
He already did that many times to the extent that he probably is too bored to clarify things anymore.

Everybody is too worked up regarding Fabs. Yes, we all hate Barca for openly tapping up our captain, but their side has said that we hold the key to the deal. As long as we say no, they can't proceed. Nevertheless, le Boss is well known to sell players that he reckons have left the club mentally and emotionally. Ever since Titi left, I don't expect any player to remain at Arsenal for life anymore.

Enough with those baseless Fabs-Barca shit... let's appreciate what we have:
http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/2010/05/s...a-a-comparison/
I've previously mentioned that Eastmond might be the next reserve player pushing for a first team slot next season, but Nick is highly likely the player to make an impact next season. With Robin a surefire starter whenever fit, Chamakh will be Nick's main competitor if he manages to fit in seamlessly like Vermy/Bak. It'd be interesting to watch, especially with a player as hungry and confident as Nik.
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Ade that self- centered piece of cr*p was courting Beyonce(Milan) when putting our shirt on and has the gut to say he had not received enough love?


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QUOTE(maximus85 @ May 20 2010, 11:55 AM)
without Cesc Fabregas in Arsenal, i dunno who to look up for in Arsenal's squad...

Frankly speaking he's the one that keep me watching Arsenal's match every week and even midnight matches...

previously, we had good players to look out for when one gone; Marc Overmars, Viera, Pires, Henry, Fabregas through out the year of me watching Arsenal from childhood till now... but now...... Van Persie? this guy is a plastic man, i dun see him much in action often.....

Fabregas is the heartbeat of Arsenal, without him, my passion towards Arsenal will fade and i afraid soon my interest towards Arsenal and football will die altogether. It' really getting boring in Arsenal now... sad.gif
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ May 20 2010, 11:55 AM)
without Cesc Fabregas in Arsenal, i dunno who to look up for in Arsenal's squad...

Frankly speaking he's the one that keep me watching Arsenal's match every week and even midnight matches...

previously, we had good players to look out for when one gone; Marc Overmars, Viera, Pires, Henry, Fabregas through out the year of me watching Arsenal from childhood till now... but now...... Van Persie? this guy is a plastic man, i dun see him much in action often.....

Fabregas is the heartbeat of Arsenal, without him, my passion towards Arsenal will fade and i afraid soon my interest towards Arsenal and football will die altogether. It' really getting boring in Arsenal now... sad.gif
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Damn, buffon very loyal to Juventus. Wish Fab can be like him sad.gif
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QUOTE(Exilus @ May 20 2010, 12:27 PM)
dats was the difference between the "off-the-pitch" class mang....
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QUOTE(Exilus @ May 20 2010, 12:32 PM)
explain? easy

u think how many of arsenal current squad right now willing to stay loyal with gunners IF..IF arsenal get relegated like Juve did? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Exilus @ May 20 2010, 12:32 PM)
explain? easy

u think how many of arsenal current squad right now willing to stay loyal with gunners IF..IF arsenal get relegated like Juve did? brows.gif
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you are talking about Cesc leaving as if it's a fact when it's not (at least not yet). and then relate it to a 'class-of-the-pitch' thingy which is completely based on pure speculation. so WTF??

who knows who will stay with Arsenal if we get relegated like Juve did. i won't pretend like i know because i do not know. but i can tell you that loyalty is overrated. pay them well, and they will stay. see Cashley Cole



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QUOTE(Exilus @ May 20 2010, 12:32 PM)
explain? easy

u think how many of arsenal current squad right now willing to stay loyal with gunners IF..IF arsenal get relegated like Juve did? brows.gif
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all Classy Player Will In La Liga If Cesc Move To Barca
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yeah, buffon really is loyal to Juventus... notworthy.gif
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We should sell a package la. Like, buy Denilson, get Fabianski free. Add 1 million, throw in Silvestre.
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QUOTE(Exilus @ May 20 2010, 12:32 PM)
explain? easy

u think how many of arsenal current squad right now willing to stay loyal with gunners IF..IF arsenal get relegated like Juve did? brows.gif
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Those oldies like Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Keown, Campbell, Ljungberg, will definitely stay if we were in this situation.

But this is a different era as a whole.
Too many different aspects need to be compared and considered.

Arsenal players are mostly loyal as a whole, but looking at their age, at some point they will always dream of a bigger future, Idolizing those big money stars like Ronaldo and Xabi Alonso who moved abroad. Loyalty and ambition is different, but it gets direct influence in determining one's heart towards a club. And please, don't bring those money chaser like cashley cole and flamoney in.

2ndly Italian football system and English football system is diff. The management is diff. Financial restrictions is diff.

And keep in mind most of the true reason a player had/wants to leave is fabricated by the media to sell stories.
Who are we to judge our current crop's loyalty after they've poured their hearts in and play a wonderful season for Arsenal.

If Arsenal were to get relegated, there's a big chance many first team players will leave, but if that's the case, Arsenal need not worry much because we've a strong foundation in youth team that can easily beat most of the teams. With such strong financial situation and recovering crop of players, i don't see how we could get relegated.

Anyway, i start to hate Barcelona's technical director and their president now with the approach on our player.
It's not that i don't respect Fab's decision to leave, but after their constant pursue of him and unsettling him, now they pull a hostage situation with the transfer fees.

1. They broke a verbal promise/agreement with Arsenal regarding pursue of Fab this season
2. They unsettle players constantly even after Fab has publicly stated he will return 'Someday'
3. Now they are forcing their way through to complete Fab's transfer (and urge Fab to complete it before world cup) so that they will get Fab for a cut down price.
4. Now that Fab is announcing of leaving Arsenal, they are starting to take things for granted.

Cmon! What do they take Arsenal for after years of cooperation??
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I actually agree with most, if not all of the analysis...

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This is why I don't like scores. Too high for Diaby and probably Nasri too, low for Clichy and maybe Theo. Uncle Mik wasn't too bad although he did nothing above average, while Dudu's achievements statistically are actually not too bad for a bit-part player.

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oh please,
Ade that self- centered piece of cr*p was courting Beyonce(Milan) when putting our shirt on and has the gut to say he had not received enough love?
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I did say that he deserved all the flak he got due to his lying and his pathetic attempts at attacking Arsenal after he left for Man City.

Yet my point was that during his early days when he was working hard and running all over the pitch, and also the 30 goal season, Ade got too much unnecessary criticism from a large portion of so-called fans.

At the end of the day, footballers are also human and if their contributions are not welcomed by the fans it will eventually affect their performance. Attitude-wise, it's easy to see who are c*nts, who are money-grabbing mercenaries; and of course who are the ones who truly love their club.

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i dun rate Sagna for 6.5 that high, his rather stay to close to the penalty box resulting a lot of crosses coming from his man-to-mark side
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its hard to hear news the Cesc is leaving the club....but all of them seems to be in papers whose source are hard to trust. IMO

we will have to wait till he comes out and speak.
IF he does leave.....good luck to him and thank you..

and i really hope wenger to secure the services of people like Gourcuff to replace Cesc.
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We should sell a package la. Like, buy Denilson, get Fabianski free. Add 1 million, throw in Silvestre.
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defenders?

seems like the future departure of cesc have overshadowed arsenal's real problem here.


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-----------------NEW GK-------------------
SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY
-------SONG - FABREGAS - NASRI--------
------ARSHAVIN - CHAMAKH - RVP-------

so, 3 signings are enough i think..(if no one goes out)
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if he leave..gud luck..
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Fabregas out = 2 players in

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-----------------NEW GK-------------------
SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY
-------SONG - FABREGAS - NASRI--------
------ARSHAVIN - CHAMAKH - RVP-------

so, 3 signings are enough i think..(if no one goes out)
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Maybe a 4-5-1 ?

Song can be a holding DM.

Nasri and Fab can be the creativity in the MF.

And I would prefer RvP to lead the line, but hey, more total football please biggrin.gif
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arsenal can play anything but 4-5-1
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whats wrong with 451
we did well with 451 what

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QUOTE(rifasha @ May 20 2010, 05:32 PM)
-----------------NEW GK-------------------
SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY
-------SONG - FABREGAS - NASRI--------
------ARSHAVIN - CHAMAKH - RVP-------

so, 3 signings are enough i think..(if no one goes out)
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casa ver

-----------------NEW GK-------------------
SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY
-------SONG - NEW CM - NEW CM--------
----------------NEW ST X3-------------------

i only believe the news from arsenal.com or cesc's twitter or barca official website to announce the signing of cesc
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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ May 20 2010, 06:06 PM)
casa ver

-----------------NEW GK-------------------
SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY
-------SONG - NEW CM - NEW CM--------
----------------NEW ST X3-------------------

i only believe the news from arsenal.com or cesc's twitter or barca official website to announce the signing of cesc
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-----------------Juju Binglu -------------------
SAGNA - Johan Lucantistan - VERMAELEN - CLICHY
-------SONG - Nono Hu Lingo - Arsenal Wintrophy--------
----------------NEW ST X3-------------------

There you go, all unknown players, suit Arsene taste. tongue.gif
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no!

arsenal can play anything but 4-5-1
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Why? We actually did well using 4-5-1. Well more like 4-3-3 with a DM slightly behind.

-------------Almunia----------------

Sagna --New Def--Vermy--Clichy

--------------Song-------------------

--------Nasri----------Fabregas-----

-Chamakh-Van Persie---Arshavin


Should be more roaming and Song/Fabregas/Nasri should dwell on the ball more while the 3 up front would make runs. Swapping positions would be a good idea.
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http://www.tribalfootball.com/arsenal-boss...esc-talk-852801

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has broken his silence on Barcelona's pursuit of Cesc Fabregas.

Wenger last night confirmed that the club had no intention of letting their skipper go.

Club chairman Peter Hill-Wood warned: “We are not remotely interested in selling him.”

And Wenger backed him up last night, saying: “The chairman told you the story.”

In what appeared to be a dig at Barcelona, who have made it clear in public how much they want Fabregas, he also told the Daily Star: “The more you speak the less good it is.”
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Glad to hear that news. Please don't let Fab go so fast. At least age of 25 or 26 maybe. Hehe
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QUOTE(BuLLs10 @ May 20 2010, 09:51 PM)
Glad to hear that news. Please don't let Fab go so fast. At least age of 25 or 26 maybe. Hehe
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While Nicklas Bendtner and his baroness/WAG, Caroline Fleming, have been making more of a public showing lately, what’s most compelling about this loved-up pair is Bendtner’s complete lack of zipper awareness.

Looking quite glam at the Danish Fashion Awards last night, Nicky B. walked the entire dark carpet with his fly down. Forgetting to zip your trousers brings up 2.5 interesting questions:

- If you spotted someone of Nicky’s ilk, would you politely tell them to keep their goods securely fastened?

- Or what if your privates were the centre of the public transport’s attention? Would you re-adjust in plain sight or sweat out your nerves on the inside?

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Our Nicky with his baroness  biggrin.gif

While Nicklas Bendtner and his baroness/WAG, Caroline Fleming, have been making more of a public showing lately, what’s most compelling about this loved-up pair is Bendtner’s complete lack of zipper awareness.

Looking quite glam at the Danish Fashion Awards last night, Nicky B. walked the entire dark carpet with his fly down.  Forgetting to zip your trousers brings up 2.5 interesting questions:

- If you spotted someone of Nicky’s ilk, would you politely tell them to keep their goods securely fastened?

- Or what if your privates were the centre of the public transport’s attention? Would you re-adjust in plain sight or sweat out your nerves on the inside?

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Added on May 20, 2010, 10:35 pm-----------------NEW GK-----------------

SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY

------------SONG - FABREGAS - --------

---------RVP - CHAMAKH - ARSHAVIN-------

------------------Walcott--------------------

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QUOTE(liez @ May 20 2010, 10:15 PM)
-----------------NEW GK-----------------

SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY

------------SONG - FABREGAS - --------

---------RVP - CHAMAKH - ARSHAVIN-------

------------------Walcott--------------------
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Looks like a formation I used in Football Manager xP

But instead I use 2 forwards instead of one and made the middle empty.

So it would be like this:

-----------------NEW GK-----------------

SAGNA - NEW DC - VERMAELEN - CLICHY

------------SONG - FABREGAS -------------------

---------Walcott-----------------ARSHAVIN-------

-----------------RVP-----CHAMAKH--------------

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arsenal can't win a damn thing, can't blame Fabregas for leaving. Why can't crappy Bendtner leave instead?
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arsenal can't win a damn thing, can't blame Fabregas for leaving. Why can't crappy Bendtner leave instead?
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Interesting, take a look, 5 years no trophy?

See the financial report and compare with MU, Chelsea plus Liverpool.

EPL Club's Financial Report


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Not surprising at all. Arsene knows... smile.gif
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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ May 20 2010, 09:04 PM)
Why? We actually did well using 4-5-1. Well more like 4-3-3 with a DM slightly behind.

-------------Almunia----------------

Sagna --New Def--Vermy--Clichy

--------------Song-------------------

--------Nasri----------Fabregas-----

-Chamakh-Van Persie---Arshavin
Should be more roaming and Song/Fabregas/Nasri should dwell on the ball more while the 3 up front would make runs. Swapping positions would be a good idea.
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I still feel very confident with what we have and ppl were desperate about Buffon. I never wanted any of that Buffon crap. If there's one thing I want is another good backup defender eg. Sol is one of them, if Gallas is leaving, we shall get another. That's it. If AW says that it wasn't entirely the goalkeeper's fault, then it should be it.

PS: But Almunia, do really look shitty these days...Fabianski has become a scapegoat when Verminator is not around. f*** Buffon, I don't want him here.
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QUOTE(ProbMan @ May 21 2010, 08:35 AM)
I still feel very confident with what we have and ppl were desperate about Buffon. I never wanted any of that Buffon crap. If there's one thing I want is another good backup defender eg. Sol is one of them, if Gallas is leaving, we shall get another. That's it. If AW says that it wasn't entirely the goalkeeper's fault, then it should be it.

PS: But Almunia, do really look shitty these days...Fabianski has become a scapegoat when Verminator is not around. f*** Buffon, I don't want him here.
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yep.. agreed that Fabs has been the scapegoat for horrible defending.

our priority should be DEFENDER, then GK then DM then others.

Almunia should dye his hair blonde again. hehehe...

i'm beginning to think Juve is asking a lot for Buffon. anyway, my gut feeling we'll have 2 signings before WC. huhuh.. please let it be true.


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QUOTE(sakaito @ May 21 2010, 10:22 AM)
yep.. agreed that Fabs has been the scapegoat for horrible defending.

our priority should be DEFENDER, then GK then DM then others.

Almunia should dye his hair blonde again. hehehe...

i'm beginning to think Juve is asking a lot for Buffon. anyway, my gut feeling we'll have 2 signings before WC. huhuh.. please let it be true.
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When I saw Fabs I thought you were talking about Fabregas sweat.gif

A defender is indeed a must especially if Gallas is leaving. None of the kids are ready for regular first team action, while JD is likely to miss games due to injuries after being out for so long.

Juve asking lots of Buffon is not surprising; someone in his peak years and being lauded as the best in the world is likely to fetch crazy money... Juve themselves paid so much to get him.

2 signings before WC... Chamakh likely to be one if all goes well, the other one nobody knows.

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Interesting, take a look, 5 years no trophy?

See the financial report and compare with MU, Chelsea plus Liverpool.

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Arsenal's winning formation:

-------------Almunia---------------

--Eboue - - TV -- JD -- Clichy---

--------- -----Song ---------------

Walcott -- Nasri -- Arshavin - Vela

-------------- Eduardo--------------

RULE: Play defensive using Mourinho style. Play to win NOT just play beautiful.

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Play to win ? Play to draw most likely .
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That formation is Brilliant!
For sure we will have 38 points- in exact. No more, no less.
With tat, we can sure have another season in Top Flight Football.

Forget abt UCL or Europa League or anything. it will only make us injured and tired.

Simply brilliant, so Southampton like... I like!
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 12:59 PM)
Arsenal's winning formation:

-------------Almunia---------------

--Eboue - - TV -- JD -- Clichy---

--------- -----Song ---------------

Walcott -- Nasri -- Arshavin - Vela

-------------- Eduardo--------------

RULE: Play defensive using Mourinho style. Play to win NOT just play beautiful.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 12:59 PM)
Arsenal's winning formation:

-------------Almunia---------------

--Eboue - - TV -- JD -- Clichy---

--------- -----Song ---------------

Walcott -- Nasri -- Arshavin - Vela

-------------- Eduardo--------------

RULE: Play defensive using Mourinho style. Play to win NOT just play beautiful.
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BRILLIANT FORMATION. FINALLY U CAME UP WITH THE ONE AND ONLY FORMATION. ALL HAIL CASA notworthy.gif
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Added on May 21, 2010, 2:13 pmwell for the cesc hype, all of them was generated by the spanish media and further amplified by the british media who freakingly needed a story to sell since the transfers are slow due to the economic crisis.

personally, i can only see cesc leaves if arsene wenger leaves.

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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 12:59 PM)
Arsenal's winning formation:

-------------Almunia---------------

--Eboue - - TV -- JD -- Clichy---

--------- -----Song ---------------

Walcott -- Nasri -- Arshavin - Vela

-------------- Eduardo--------------

RULE: Play defensive using Mourinho style. Play to win NOT just play beautiful.
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post cesc era huh?

this formation sounds a bit weird but some how i think it is feasible with only eduardo replaced with RvP.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 12:59 PM)
Arsenal's winning formation:

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--Eboue - - TV -- JD -- Clichy---

--------- -----Song ---------------

Walcott -- Nasri -- Arshavin - Vela

-------------- Eduardo--------------

RULE: Play defensive using Mourinho style. Play to win NOT just play beautiful.
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Why vela play wide???

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nah. the man hates RvP's guts that's why he put in eduardo. tho i would put in chamakh in his place rather than eduardo
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Hmm...
I wonder how many arsenal players will play in World Cup later...
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QUOTE(jinyu @ May 21 2010, 02:54 PM)
Hmm...
I wonder how many arsenal players will play in World Cup later...
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dont forget diaby~
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 12:59 PM)
Arsenal's winning formation:

-------------Almunia---------------

--Eboue - - TV -- JD -- Clichy---

--------- -----Song ---------------

Walcott -- Nasri -- Arshavin - Vela

-------------- Eduardo--------------

RULE: Play defensive using Mourinho style. Play to win NOT just play beautiful.
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Super unbalanced.

Funny that you say play defensively and yet the entire midfield bar Song are attacking-minded midgets who seldom track back and defend.
I'm very happy that Arsene is our manager and not you.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 21 2010, 03:05 PM)
Super unbalanced.

Funny that you say play defensively and yet the entire midfield bar Song are attacking-minded midgets who seldom track back and defend.
I'm very happy that Arsene is our manager and not you.
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LOL...

That's why he is behind the midfielders. He job is to cover up for defenders.


Added on May 21, 2010, 3:13 pm
QUOTE(buzzfizz @ May 21 2010, 02:42 PM)
Why vela play wide???

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When attack, the formation is 4-3-3

Vela, Walcott & Eduardo plays forward attacking. Arshavin & Nasri are more as MC with Arshavin being the playmaker.


Added on May 21, 2010, 3:15 pm
QUOTE(ESLord @ May 21 2010, 01:52 PM)
That formation is Brilliant!
For sure we will have 38 points- in exact. No more, no less.
With tat, we can sure have another season in Top Flight Football.

Forget abt UCL or Europa League or anything. it will only make us injured and tired.

Simply brilliant, so Southampton like... I like!
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Off course cause these are the players AW bought over.. LOL.


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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ May 21 2010, 02:44 PM)
nah. the man hates RvP's guts that's why he put in eduardo. tho i would put in chamakh in his place rather than eduardo
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Well, on the counter-attack, Vela and Walcott will have problem tracking back, especially Walcott. He tends to lose steam after an attack and slow to track back... when countered. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ May 21 2010, 02:42 PM)
Why vela play wide???

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QUOTE(Dashken @ May 21 2010, 03:22 PM)
Well, on the counter-attack, Vela and Walcott will have problem tracking back, especially Walcott. He tends to lose steam after an attack and slow to track back... when countered. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 03:11 PM)
LOL...

That's why he is behind the midfielders. He job is to cover up for defenders.

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Your irony is eye-blinding.

You call for a more defensive play and yet field mainly attacking players and expect them to defend all the time? Song cannot cover for everybody when they all move forward. Clichy already mentioned that our new formation exposes the fullbacks more due to the lack of wide players in midfield, and now you want Song to cover the entire line of defence.

Balance is something that is often overlooked - such is a player like Denilson who operates as the link between Song and Fabs.

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QUOTE(sOuLx @ May 21 2010, 03:00 PM)
dont forget diaby~
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IMHO, out current crops are suited to 4-3-3 formation but IMHO, 4-4-2 is much more fun to be watched @ suited AW style. defensive is not AW approach towards the game, as he & the team loves going forward and attack = ARSENAL. but, the teams just need some balance, its not like Denilson is not a good player, he is just not consistent. Most important is, to get a new CENTRAL DEFENDER to pair with Vermaelen. If possible, buy a new goalkeeper, a WORLD-CLASS, even AW has to spend a bit more than usual, GK is very important. A bonus if there is a bargain for a midfielder as well, a hard-man-kind-of-midfielder. Well, this is just an opinion from me, no harm indeed~ happy.gifv
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 21 2010, 03:38 PM)
Your irony is eye-blinding.

You call for a more defensive play and yet field mainly attacking players and expect them to defend all the time? Song cannot cover for everybody when they all move forward. Clichy already mentioned that our new formation exposes the fullbacks more due to the lack of wide players in midfield, and now you want Song to cover the entire line of defence.

Balance is something that is often overlooked - such is a player like Denilson who operates as the link between Song and Fabs.
Amen. Forgive me for I have sinned.
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Everything is all about training. Same as the way how Henry was converted from Winger to Striker, Eboue converted from RB -- > RW.
It's the coach job to train & change their mentality & playing style.
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please dont argue wif mr c...he knows...play dudu instead of rvp...haha
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aiyo.. y u din put fabianski?.. he can let u train to play as forward wat?
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Make sure YOU control the players as you are usually very good in FIFA10.

Then we can even save the time for discussion on who are the starting 11 because YOU are the decisive factor.

Ya ya, training is everything, stick closer to the console.

Let's move on.

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aiyo.. y u din put fabianski?.. he can let u train to play as forward wat?
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QUOTE(jinyu @ May 21 2010, 04:45 PM)
Make sure YOU control the players as you are usually very good in FIFA10.

Then we can even save the time for discussion on who are the starting 11 because YOU are the decisive factor.

Ya ya, training is everything, stick closer to the console.

Let's move on.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 03:51 PM)
Everything is all about training. Same as the way how Henry was converted from Winger to Striker, Eboue converted from RB -- > RW.
It's the coach job to train & change their mentality & playing style.
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Casa for manager!
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Meanwhile, Barcelona midfielder Xavi has urged his compatriot to quit Arsenal as it is 'criminal' a player of his quality has only won two club honours.

Fabregas won the 2004 Community Shield with the Gunners along with the 2005 FA Cup, although the club's extensive trophy cabinet has been surprisingly bare since.

Xavi believes Cesc has little option but to quit Arsenal in search of more silverware, something not in short supply with Liga champions Barcelona.

"It is criminal for a player of Cesc's quality not to be winning the biggest prizes in football," said Xavi.

"He really has no choice but to leave. He is making the right decision and I hope Arsenal fans wish him well."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6165415,00.html


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Cesc will stay and we'll get past Barca next season's Champions League .

You hear it here first .
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cant we sue xavi for unsettling player under contract? f*** those basturds
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Cesc will stay and we'll get past Barca next season's Champions League .

You hear it here first .
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Lol...Fabregas's arrival in Barcelona will ensure Xavi's bench warming position.
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somehow i feel this need to be posted
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Seriously Barca players are acting like the scum of the earth. What the hell is with their tactics of trying to unsettle players of another club.
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Got a transfer news from Barca official site shocking.gif
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QUOTE(taingonghai @ May 21 2010, 08:02 PM)
Seriously Barca players are acting like the scum of the earth. What the hell is with their tactics of trying to unsettle players of another club.
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but we cant deny the truth

we have overly underachieve as a "big club"

these words cant even give us a scratch if we really did well or at least showed an effort or impression to do well


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seems Barca will spend around 200 million this transfer window..


David Villa - consider DONE
Torres - still hunting .. offer 70 million
Fabregas - still hunting .. offer unknown..


well.. actually i hate barca tongue.gif [i'm real madrid supporter]

seriously.. arsenal need to gain the performance and win the silverware next season..

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ May 21 2010, 08:07 PM)
but we cant deny the truth

we have overly underachieve as a "big club"

these words cant even give us a scratch if we really did well or at least showed an effort or impression to do well
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How do you define "big clubs"? Stadium size? History? Stature? Simple to quote the words "big club" without giving your perspective.

If anything is criminal, it's Xavi's lack of class in conduct.
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Barca may be world class in footballing talent, but in the sense of fair play, LOL, even CR9 is light years ahead of them.

The embarassment of harassing the Inter hotel the whole night before their match to give them no sleep, the diving antics , most infamously the one that got Motta sent off and the public display of saying Inter be crushed at the Camp Nou before they even played. Well then Xavi should have left the Barca when they won nothing significant from 99 to 2004.

HAH! go dai in mudslide Xavi. It'll be "criminal" if you don't
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Didnt Fabregas just signed a new contract =.=
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Barca may be world class in footballing talent, but in the sense of fair play, LOL, even CR9 is light years ahead of them.

The embarassment of harassing the Inter hotel the whole night before their match to give them no sleep, the diving antics , most infamously the one that got Motta sent off and the public display of saying Inter be crushed at the Camp Nou before they even played. Well then Xavi should have left the Barca when they won nothing significant from 99 to 2004.

HAH! go dai in mudslide Xavi. It'll be "criminal" if you don't
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QUOTE(FollowN @ May 21 2010, 08:16 PM)
How do you define "big clubs"? Stadium size? History? Stature? Simple to quote the words "big club" without giving your perspective.

If anything is criminal, it's Xavi's lack of class in conduct.
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we used to be

but not really now

i dont know why u bothered to ask me to define such things

and i am lazy to answer u what is big club in my perspective cos its really alot of things that can make u a big club

but we all know we are big club

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It's all about expectation.

After all, football is not ONLY about facts. Emotion, Passion, Anger (and even Annoyance).

I just like to say this as a TS:

We have to accept that there are many different kind of people with different expectations in the world... so is in Arsenal fanbase.

We just can't control this, but when we post or when we debate, I hope that all of us is reminded that; we are different. You cannot push your thoughts/points DIRECTLY into someone smile.gif

This applies to everyone, including myself wink.gif


And once again, I always think that "Football is a sport to enjoy" And I will continue thinking so wink.gif

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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 21 2010, 03:51 PM)
Everything is all about training. Same as the way how Henry was converted from Winger to Striker, Eboue converted from RB -- > RW.
It's the coach job to train & change their mentality & playing style.
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Training Arshavin/Vela/Theo to become more defensive will make us stronger, yet it makes zero sense to fully convert them into players that they are not. Like it or not, Andy/Vela/Theo are all forwards, while Nasri is no playmaker like Fabregas. Arsene has also mentioned that Nasri will play on the wing when Fabs is fit.

We're better off utilising the attacking strengths of the aforementioned players and at the same time maintaining adequate balance in midfield. Our best midfield combination so far consists of a defensive shield who can win balls (Song), the playmaker/late arriving midfielder (Fabs), and the link man (Denilson). The other alternative would be having Fabs playing a deeper playmaker role with Diaby/Ramsey roaming in the opposition's half.

Go have a look at the chalkboards of the 6-1 vs Everton, 6-2 vs Blackburn, 3-0 vs T'ham. Those were our best midfield displays in the league this season.

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Lol...Fabregas's arrival in Barcelona will ensure Xavi's bench warming position.
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Maybe Xavi knows that his time will not last forever, and hence he wants Fabs to succeed him soon at Nou Camp. Good intentions from Xavi for his beloved club, but for us the more he talks, the more cunty he sounds and the more respect he loses.

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bro kimhoong a bit slow in news eh? tongue.gif
Villa leaving Valencia is more of a matter of when. It was always going to be Barca or Real Madrid... The next big name striker to be prized away will be Kun, with Chelsea's name being mentioned the most.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 21 2010, 10:07 PM)
bro kimhoong a bit slow in news eh? tongue.gif
Villa leaving Valencia is more of a matter of when. It was always going to be Barca or Real Madrid... The next big name striker to be prized away will be Kun, with Chelsea's name being mentioned the most.
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Kun maybe move..but still 50/50 lh..either Stamford Bridge or somewhere else...cuz Atletico already made a move to get Suarez to replace him...

btw...about Cesc..Arsenal still got Ramsey and Merida right?
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is fabregas confirmed leaving ? ..if he wants to leave,i think aw will let him go easily like henry and others..

but i really2 hope he stays for one more season..
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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ May 21 2010, 08:42 PM)
Didnt Fabregas just signed a new contract =.=
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yea, a 110,000 pound per week deal until 2014, and it's signed.

still, there are no use in keeping players who wants to leave.

Anyhow, if Fab can't/won't leave, i believe he will still understand the situation and play full with full heart for Arsenal.

Didn't you notice he has been silent for quite a while now when the transfer news is spreading like wild fire

He respects Arsenal team in making decisions over his future. Any comments he made might gave Barcelona the advantage in having him at below 30-40m pounds. He's old enough to captain a team, and i believe he's old enough to study the situation now.
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our insticnt say, Fabregas STAY PUT!.. all are rumours..
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 21 2010, 10:07 PM)

Villa leaving Valencia is more of a matter of when. It was always going to be Barca or Real Madrid... The next big name striker to be prized away will be Kun, with Chelsea's name being mentioned the most.
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QUOTE(shark7 @ May 21 2010, 10:21 PM)
is fabregas confirmed leaving ? ..if he wants to leave,i think aw will let him go easily like henry and others..

but i really2 hope he stays for one more season..
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Nope, no confirmation.


But if my guess would be correct. There a high chance Fabs wont leave. As long AW and the Arsenal board dont want to sell him, then more than 80% confirm he wont leave, even if he ask for the transfer himself.


Henry and the others case are different, they are over there peak or they easily substain injuries already, so AW let them go.
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Fabregas won't leave, all those reports just heat up the current situation, Fabregas did mention before he has no intention of leaving Arsenal, he also said that the media like to speculate him with Barca.

So, unless Arsenal.com post the news, just stay calm.

I doubt Barca have the money for Fabregas, they are in deep shit with the awful debt in their account.

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if realy2 cesc want to leave,45m pound + henry.haha.
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Just a headsup , watching ESPNNews on Astro just now , they are feeding voice report from a Spain/Barca journalist that Cesc transfer will take place in a matter of few days . I think this might be quite true , so farewell Cesc .

I still stand firm that Arsenal will be stronger without Cesc next season .

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I thought Henry left because he thought AW was leaving?
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One of the worst kept transfer deal in the Arsenal camp had finally became official!Chamakh 29!
SOS Chamakh

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but i wonder about his performance..
watching youtube...

and he is just awesome...
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Stephane Mbia from marseile
Yaya Toure from barca
Bojan from Barca << hope success
Felipe Melo from Juventus
Hugo Lloris from Lyon << hope success
Edin Dzeko from Wolfsburg << hope success

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haha just rumors

Stephane Mbia from marseile - Maybe
Yaya Toure from barca - Only if the transfer of Fab goes on
Bojan from Barca << hope success - Same as above, though quality striker for a youngster.
Felipe Melo from Juventus - Backup for DM, though I would like Song to gain more exp.
Hugo Lloris from Lyon << hope success - Didnt hear any rumors for this guy.
Edin Dzeko from Wolfsburg  << hope success - Haha, hopefully tongue.gif
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haha just rumors

Stephane Mbia from marseile - maybe but too expensive
Yaya Toure from barca - i like Song better
Bojan from Barca << hope success - not another striker happy.gif
Felipe Melo from Juventus - i like this bargain
Hugo Lloris from Lyon << hope success - my summer transfer wishlist *praying*
Edin Dzeko from Wolfsburg  << hope success - why not? but we already have lotsa hitman in house
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A DEFENDER, PLEASE!! rclxm9.gif
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for defender .??.why not just use our youth[i mean from arsenal 2nd team] player..?

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for defender .??.why not just use our youth[i mean from arsenal 2nd team] player..?

i dont think we need to buy defender.. sweat.gif
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We need a GK and a DF.

GK is main priority because JD is back and Sol is available.
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One of the worst kept transfer deal in the Arsenal camp had finally became official!Chamakh 29!
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welcome Maroune. 1st signing confirmed and it's not yet June rclxms.gif

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We need a GK and a DF.

GK is main priority because JD is back and Sol is available.
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The Arsenal and England legend David Seaman was at the South Bank saving penalties for Yahoo! this weekend (or letting them in!) and was inevitably asked about the goalkeeping situation at the Emirates.

He seems to agree with Arsene Wenger that Lukasz Fabianski is very talented, and that Manuel Almunia is the perfect age for a goalkeeper. In fact he thinks all four keepers at Arsenal are pretty good!

He said: “If you look at the keepers at Arsenal there is a hell of a lot of talent – but there is a hell of a lot of young talent there. Manuel Almunia is 32 so is reaching now the perfect age for a keeper. I am not too sure whether Wenger needs to buy one, maybe he just needs to bring through what we’ve got . I know Lukasz Fabianski had a bad end to the season but is still a really talented keeper. You’ve got Wojciech Szczesny and Vito Mannone, so you have young talent. I’m not sure – he may just want to bring them through.”

When asked about Wenger should be investing in the transfer market anyway, Seaman thought that just two arrivals were needed.

“It’s the big question for Arsenal this summer.” he said. “Does he go out a buy an all-signing, all-dancing finished article or does he stick with what he does which is buy someone you have never heard of before and make them into superstars? I think he needs to buy a couple of experienced players. The younger players need experienced players to fall back on when things aren’t going right. I don’t think he needs to buy lots of players – the squad is good – he maybe just needs one or two players – a central midfielder and a central defender.”

That seems a fair assessment from the Arsenal legend. Agree..?
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QUOTE(kae7 @ May 22 2010, 01:23 AM)
for defender .??.why not just use our youth[i mean from arsenal 2nd team] player..?

i dont think we need to buy defender.. sweat.gif
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we need an established central defender to pair with Vermaelen. youth players plays as backup. well, that is just from my point of view, personally, watching all the last seasons' games, we lack class in GK and defending~ sweat.gif (proved by 43 goals conceded in BPL only) doh.gif
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we need an established central defender to pair with Vermaelen. youth players plays as backup. well, that is just from my point of view, personally, watching all the last seasons' games, we lack class in GK and defending~  sweat.gif (proved by 43 goals conceded in BPL only) doh.gif
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that is because we sell Toure cry.gif

maybe we need Campbell


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that is because we sell Toure  cry.gif

maybe we need Campbell
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GK .. hmm Hugo Lloris from Lyon or maybe Buffon from Juventus


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Hmm...Hope he is loyal to the club.

For defender....we let george brislen-hall come up maybe???

and for Goalkeeper....Please....get a new one....I really have no more mood to watch the current goaly to keep on playing....Really spoil my mood every time... doh.gif
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MC still prefer no. 29 eh? I tot he will got no. 10 replacing gallas
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Hope we can give chamakh some trophies at least....

He got Trophée des Champions, Coupe de la Ligue and Ligue 1 title at 2009
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come on no 29!!!dun get injured at all next season!!!pleasee.... sweat.gif


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welcome onboard to Emirates Airline Chamakh!

And now os for the nickname.

Cham? tongue.gif

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Wenger need to act fast before WC starts but we got one, I hope there will be many to come and fab staying. (Really x1000 hope lol)
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welcome onboard to Emirates Airline Chamakh!

And now os for the nickname.

Cham? tongue.gif
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che mat? laugh.gif
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yippi!!!!! i gonna look at chamakh perfomance at emirates, if good like arshavin when arriving before this, i gonna make NN of chamakh name... hahaha^^
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can i call him charming? our new Ronaldo
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wow welcome on shores chamakh...

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with addition of Chamakh Arsenal may need to revert to their traditional 4-4-1-1 formation.
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Before the champs league final....some memory refreshers to show you how important a goalkeeper and a discipline defence can help the club rclxms.gif


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come on no 29!!!dun get injured at all next season!!!pleasee.... sweat.gif
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hope he's a good signing..n plz no more broken legs plz...!!!
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miguel veloso and axel witsel.....
hope wenger got his radar on both of them....
veloso - play as defensive midfield....
witsel - central midfield ( partner with nasri should fab go...)
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i hope if cesc leave, AW will buy Mesut Ozil to replace him.he is young (22 yrs old),a playmaker like cesc.please wenger......
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Official club statement re: Cesc transfer to Barca.

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i hope if cesc leave, AW will buy Mesut Ozil to replace him.he is young (22 yrs old),a playmaker like cesc.please wenger......
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QUOTE(sigheart @ May 22 2010, 01:31 PM)
Official club statement re: Cesc transfer to Barca.

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HAHAAAAA....damn nice one!! rclxms.gif
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One of the worst kept transfer deal in the Arsenal camp had finally became official!Chamakh 29!
SOS Chamakh
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Agree agree... smile.gif

Anyway, welcome Chamakh. Hope this signing gives more confidence to the squad in general and Fabregas specifically smile.gif
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yep2... cesc needs to know we mean business!

i think AW will sign a DM or CB next. Goalie will be the last. Might be after WC. Get slovenia's GK.
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I have a feeling AW might sign an asian player from North Korea as a DM.
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QUOTE(sakaito @ May 22 2010, 04:22 PM)
yep2... cesc needs to know we mean business!

i think AW will sign a DM or CB next. Goalie will be the last. Might be after WC. Get slovenia's GK.
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CB would be proper....Song should play in midfield as defensive
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Official club statement re: Cesc transfer to Barca.

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they should hack arsenal.com and paste this article.. laugh.gif


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I have a feeling AW might sign an asian player from North Korea as a DM.
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mbia can cover DM and CB..sign him! hmm.gif

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I don't think there should be a thread if one wants to post one liners. Even kopitiam uncles can debate better smile.gif
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mbia can cover DM and CB..sign him! hmm.gif
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I just thought that AW has a plan to sign an Asian player, it was rumor for a long time ago. Is Moroccan an Asian?
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I think Song did a very good job as DM . So he should stay , a strong CB is very much needed instead .

As per Asian player , wasn't Takayuki Morimoto is linked to Arsenal ? I don't think Moroccan is Asian .

But Morimoto is a striker ... hmm.gif

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Speaking of Asian, Keisuke Honda would be nice rclxms.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif.

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ouh,,,since liverpool didnt play UCL next season, why dont we go for Marcherano. kinda like him with that bad tackle~ happy.gif
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LOL You made me check ARSENAL.COM lool.
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ouh,,,since liverpool didnt play UCL next season, why dont we go for Marcherano. kinda like him with that bad tackle~ happy.gif
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do we really need a CB?
dun forget we're having Thomas, Johan (99% ppl here forgotten his existence), William, Mikael and Sol, but i think Mikael going to leave us, and Nedveit will return to us
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do we really need a CB?
dun forget we're having Thomas, Johan (99% ppl here forgotten his existence), William, Mikael and Sol, but i think Mikael going to leave us, and Nedveit will return to us
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from my view, i think we need at least 1 CB..Gallas & Sol havent signed the contract yet. so with addition of 1 CB, there will be a competition for the position~Nordtveit will play in FA Cup n MM Cup biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ May 22 2010, 09:00 PM)
do we really need a CB?
dun forget we're having Thomas, Johan (99% ppl here forgotten his existence), William, Mikael and Sol, but i think Mikael going to leave us, and Nedveit will return to us
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we need verminator partner.. hmm.gif
no hope for gallas..sol just for backup and can't play for full time..djouru need to find his best form..no thanks uncle sil!
hope bendtner can lure kjaer to come.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ May 22 2010, 09:00 PM)
do we really need a CB?
dun forget we're having Thomas, Johan (99% ppl here forgotten his existence), William, Mikael and Sol, but i think Mikael going to leave us, and Nedveit will return to us
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Are you sure Gallas will stay?
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i might be late for celebrate with you guys..

Chamakh sign long term deal with Gunners

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Added on May 22, 2010, 11:08 pmgreat news too..

Hammer mega bid for Thierry Henry

WEST HAM have made an amazing bid to sign Thierry Henry.

Hammers joint-chairman David Sullivan this week offered the Barcelona ace, 32, a two-year deal, worth more than £7.5million, to land him.




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Hopes no more EPL club except Arsenal for Thierry Henry..

we should buy/offer him too
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wenger talk about chamakh
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QUOTE(kae7 @ May 22 2010, 11:30 PM)
Hopes no more EPL club except Arsenal for Thierry Henry..

we should buy/offer him too
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yes i think so too

his presence is at least beneficial if not in terms of abitlity
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OMG LOL!!!

i loved the sentence of "and a goalie who knows what a fucuking ball looks like"

the whole thing was made of pure awesomeness
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I want Milito to add into our squad drool.gif good finishing earns 2-0 for crown on ECL thumbup.gif

Sneijder and Robben are godlike players. What loss sales for madrid.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(aladdin @ May 23 2010, 05:46 AM)
I want Milito to add into our squad drool.gif good finishing earns 2-0 for crown on ECL  thumbup.gif

Sneijder and Robben are godlike players. What loss sales for madrid.. doh.gif
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made way for Kaka.. wat the hell...Perez probably slapped his own forehead already.
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QUOTE(aladdin @ May 23 2010, 04:46 AM)
I want Milito to add into our squad drool.gif good finishing earns 2-0 for crown on ECL  thumbup.gif

Sneijder and Robben are godlike players. What loss sales for madrid.. doh.gif
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Sneijder went to Inter for how much? £14m or something? The loss is ours should've grab him when we had the chance....same as Ribery and Alonso.
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Sneijder went to Inter for how much? £14m or something? The loss is ours should've grab him when we had the chance....same as Ribery and Alonso.
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"im happy to be a gunner" lol

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/f...gns-for-arsenal
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Despite the great performance in CL last match, I do not rate Milito high tongue.gif

But I welcome the likes of Robben and Sneijder drool.gif
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Despite the great performance in CL last match, I do not rate Milito high tongue.gif

But I welcome the likes of Robben and Sneijder drool.gif
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But the way he "finished" them are very nice, very "steady". If our bendtner can do the same things..................IF only
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A clip of Chamakh (shared by a friend in fb):



This guy can really head blink.gif


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But the way he "finished" them are very nice, very "steady". If our bendtner can do the same things..................IF only
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A clip of Chamakh (shared by a friend in fb):

This guy can really head  blink.gif


Added on May 23, 2010, 5:34 am
Yup, I do agree that he was good that match smile.gif
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He scored 5 headers in this season ECL, if no mistaken thumbup.gif


Added on May 23, 2010, 5:42 amMerida leaves us

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=789414&cc=3436

good luck to him

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i think striker arsenal hve a lot already, chamakh is a good signing bcause van persie always get injured,arshavin not on form.
need 1 new gk and cb

what about david james,maybe old but experience..

look at edvin van der sar and mark sharwazer ..? before they move to man u and fulham..they was not really a good gk..

btw how much arsenal buy chamakh ?free right ?

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Credit to Mourinho. AGAIN it's proven beautiful football is nothing when compared to Mourinho's defensive play.

70% vs 30% (Inter) --- > Shame for Bayern & also to team that plays beautiful like them. Haha

AW time for u to play hardcore defensive & please STOP playing beautiful. Play to WIN.
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Yeah, I think Wenger will looking for defensive players after this. Chamakh is free and hope he can make the impact like Wiltord did.
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Despite the great performance in CL last match, I do not rate Milito high tongue.gif

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Calamity James? no thanks! as GK coach maybe la. hehehe..


Added on May 23, 2010, 8:51 ammerida? good luck dude... u know those who left arsenal 99% will go on to become... errrr... nothing... ?

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Credit to Mourinho. AGAIN it's proven beautiful football is nothing when compared to Mourinho's defensive play.

70%  vs 30%  (Inter) --- > Shame for Bayern & also to team that plays beautiful like them. Haha

AW time for u to play hardcore defensive & please STOP playing beautiful. Play to WIN.
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I thought Mourinho did play some beautiful football there...I don't think they play defensively. If u talk about then why their possession is so little. Then I can answer u is that because Bayern was playing a physical game which it seems like they win so many balls but becoming clueless after that and passing around...that is their possession. Just like what Arsenal did. If only Walcott has just half of that vision like Milito, we could have been as good as Inter or even surpassed them. Or, I don't know maybe he's on-form that night?
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welcome to arsenal, chamakh ! work hard bro ! rclxms.gif


Added on May 23, 2010, 10:02 amany news on gallas ?

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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 23 2010, 08:16 AM)
Credit to Mourinho. AGAIN it's proven beautiful football is nothing when compared to Mourinho's defensive play.

70%  vs 30%  (Inter) --- > Shame for Bayern & also to team that plays beautiful like them. Haha

AW time for u to play hardcore defensive & please STOP playing beautiful. Play to WIN.
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Inter discipline is awesome. You can see their players chasing and marking ppl the whole game as per Mourinho instructed.

Cambiasso and Zannetti work their ass off to win and block the ball. Even Eto drop deep to defend whenever needed.

Our youngsters need to learn discipline and hardwork esp Denilson and Diaby who often jogs around.
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I thought Mourinho did play some beautiful football there...I don't think they play defensively. If u talk about then why their possession is so little. Then I can answer u is that because Bayern was playing a physical game which it seems like they win so many balls but becoming clueless after that and passing around...that is their possession. Just like what Arsenal did. If only Walcott has just half of that vision like Milito, we could have been as good as Inter or even surpassed them. Or, I don't know maybe he's on-form that night?
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Here in Arsenal, the players are keep on passing the ball even inside the penalty box the players still want to dribble. Seems like no one dare to shoot for goals except for Arshavin. Hoping AW sign more players like Arshavin & Robben who are selfish.

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OT but since it's the topic in discussion now and someone relates it to us. i just managed to catch the second half of the last night CL finale. but from the second half, whoever think Inter played defensive football tactic last night really has to go out and play some real football instead of just playing FM in front of the computer

having lesser possession does not mean you play defensive football, far from it actually
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Huhu.. Someone is getting frustrated. haha
Look at the bigger picture.


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QUOTE(toshio14 @ May 23 2010, 03:20 PM)
OT but since it's the topic in discussion now and someone relates it to us. i just managed to catch the second half of the last night CL finale. but from the second half, whoever think Inter played defensive football tactic last night really has to go out and play some real football instead of just playing FM in front of the computer

having lesser possession does not mean you play defensive football, far from it actually
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LOL, i gotta give it to this guy, he'll lick the socks off any teams that win, and try to prove that ahhh I'm always rite see...and when he predicts something wrong, he'll suddenly develop memory loss and change the topic.


Geez, do you even have any friends in real life?


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Please do. Let them realize the problem.


Added on May 23, 2010, 3:13 pm
Here in Arsenal, the players are keep on passing the ball even inside the penalty box the players still want to dribble. Seems like no one dare to shoot for goals except for Arshavin.  Hoping AW sign more players like Arshavin & Robben who are selfish.
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So in the previous page, you say that Robben WON'T play for us because we play "beautiful" but at the same time AW should sign him for us? Stop talking out of your *** seriously. The style of play Munich and we employ are the same, is to play an attacking game. Now go lick off Mourinho in the Inter thread mad.gif

First class lalang!

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Here in Arsenal, the players are keep on passing the ball even inside the penalty box the players still want to dribble. Seems like no one dare to shoot for goals except for Arshavin.  Hoping AW sign more players like Arshavin & Robben who are selfish.
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For once I agree with you there Casa. Not enough shots man. Sure we have possession, but theres no point if no one can score.
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LOL, i gotta give it to this guy, he'll lick the socks off any teams that win, and try to prove that ahhh I'm always rite see...and when he predicts something wrong, he'll suddenly develop memory loss and change the topic.
Geez, do you even have any friends in real life?


Added on May 23, 2010, 9:41 pm
So in the previous page, you say that Robben WON'T play for us because we play "beautiful" but at the same time AW should sign him for us? Stop talking out of your *** seriously. The style of play Munich and we employ are the same, is to play an attacking game. Now go lick off Mourinho in the Inter thread  mad.gif
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His responses are always riddled with contradictions.

See "Huhu, someone is getting frustrated haha. Look at the bigger picture". He claims others are myopic but if you look at his clamor for instant league or cup glories in place of better financials and ultimately a future, what does it make of him?

Anyway, why even bother to dignify his idiocy with a response? tongue.gif
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we got a good header now
it is the time for sagna/walcott/clichy/diaby/denilson/rosicky/ramsey/bentdner/arshavin/song/gallas/vermaelean/vela/eduador/eastmond/wilshere/rvp/djourou/campbell/almunia/fabianski/nasri/nordveit/gilbert/traore to deliver at least, a decent g0dd4mn cross
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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ May 23 2010, 10:27 PM)
we got a good header now
it is the time for sagna/walcott/clichy/diaby/denilson/rosicky/ramsey/bentdner/arshavin/song/gallas/vermaelean/vela/eduador/eastmond/wilshere/rvp/djourou/campbell/almunia/fabianski/nasri/nordveit/gilbert/traore to deliver at least, a decent g0dd4mn cross
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where is Cesc + Eboue? laugh.gif
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where is Cesc + Eboue?  laugh.gif
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already good crosser biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ May 23 2010, 10:27 PM)
we got a good header now
it is the time for sagna/walcott/clichy/diaby/denilson/rosicky/ramsey/bentdner/arshavin/song/gallas/vermaelean/vela/eduador/eastmond/wilshere/rvp/djourou/campbell/almunia/fabianski/nasri/nordveit/gilbert/traore to deliver at least, a decent g0dd4mn cross
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Wenger will do that...Don't worry...The team will switch to a formation to suits Chamakh...At least this is what I think....Chamakh at the middle to provide instantaneous goal, Bendtner and Van Persie right behind him to deliver back up and suprising goals, Walcott and Arshavin to romp on the wings freely, Denilson and Fabrega and alex song as the spider web spitter of the team (at least this is what I hope sad.gif ...Fabregas) , Vermalen and Sagna to stay behind hmm.gif

---------------------Almunia----------------------------

-----Sagna----------------------Vermaelen------------

---------------------Denilson----------------------------

-------Alex Song-----------------Fabregas-------------

Walcott----------------------------------------Arshavin

---------------Bendtner--Van Persie-------------------

----------------------Chamakh--------------------------


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Wenger will do that...Don't worry...The team will switch to a formation to suits Chamakh...At least this is what I think....Chamakh at the middle to provide instantaneous goal, Bendtner and Van Persie right behind him to deliver back up and suprising goals, Walcott and Arshavin to romp on the wings freely, Denilson and Fabrega and alex song as the spider web spitter of the team (at least this is what I hope  sad.gif ...Fabregas) , Vermalen and Sagna to stay behind  hmm.gif

---------------------Almunia----------------------------

-----Sagna----------------------Vermaelen------------

---------------------Denilson----------------------------

-------Alex Song-----------------Fabregas-------------

Walcott----------------------------------------Arshavin

---------------Bendtner--Van Persie-------------------

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We will get relegated with this formation tongue.gif
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but we will concede 10 goal.

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We will get relegated with this formation tongue.gif
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When Vermaelen romp forward out of sudden.

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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ May 23 2010, 10:27 PM)
we got a good header now
it is the time for sagna/walcott/clichy/diaby/denilson/rosicky/ramsey/bentdner/arshavin/song/gallas/vermaelean/vela/eduador/eastmond/wilshere/rvp/djourou/campbell/almunia/fabianski/nasri/nordveit/gilbert/traore to deliver at least, a decent g0dd4mn cross
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On the contrary of popular belief I would say our crosses are actually decent. But most of the time they are wasted due to the lack of bodies in the box. I couldn't remember the number of times our crosses have been in superb areas in the box but we only have one sometimes no one at all attempting to meet it.

The intelligence of our players to even attempt to cross into the box when there is no one there is another story though.

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The intelligence of our players to even attempt to cross into the box when there is no one there is another story though.
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hi guys,what ur opinion for whose arsene wenger need for sign to improve our squad?
especially if cesc go and all with that 50mil money to waste for
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i don't believe cesc is going anywhere. he still wants to prove that this team can win it with the addition of some supports, especially at the CB position and GK.

I'll give it another season now that Chamakh is here. NB52 has to work even harder to get into the 1st team.

Hopefully sagna will deliver better crosses to chamakh now. Heads down to RVP to finish it. wink.gif hehhe

meng.. can't wait for WC.. then next season.

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I'm not that optimistic in Cesc case. We know in the past Cesc always come out and deny any transfer rumors. But this time around we never heard a single word from Cesc. If Cesc stays, it is most probably because Bacerlona cannot afford the transfer fee.
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hi guys,what ur opinion for whose arsene wenger need for sign to improve our squad?
especially if cesc go and all with that 50mil money to waste for
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I got this vid from MU thread....Maybe Arsenal wanna do sth like this....

Athletic Bilbao vs 100 kids.



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After reading all these Fabregas is leaving or maybe he's staying.. who cares? I'm still a Gunner for life!
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Debt from £250m to £200m

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I got this vid from MU thread....Maybe Arsenal wanna do sth like this....

Athletic Bilbao vs 100 kids.
wahahaha! they got 3 goalkeepers! *cant imagine Almunia-Fabianski-Mannone altogether! hahaha~ drool.gif
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y la chamakh dun take 25... can clear all the memories about adebayor....
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QUOTE(jonrwg @ May 23 2010, 02:18 PM)
looks like fran merida is transfering to alt. madrid.. source from soccernet.
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QUOTE(Ken @ May 24 2010, 08:31 AM)
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Arsenal eye bid for Werder Bremen defender Per Mertesacker as replacement for William Gallas

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2559/rumour...per-mertesacker

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Agree, no point keep someone whose heart is else where like ronaldo ... He won't perform also if arsenal keep him
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Arsenal eye bid for Werder Bremen defender Per Mertesacker as replacement for William Gallas

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2559/rumour...per-mertesacker
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wow...if he and vermaelen both go forward to score a head then we'll be easily counter attacked.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ May 23 2010, 11:11 PM)
On the contrary of popular belief I would say our crosses are actually decent. But most of the time they are wasted due to the lack of bodies in the box. I couldn't remember the number of times our crosses have been in superb areas in the box but we only have one sometimes no one at all attempting to meet it.

The intelligence of our players to even attempt to cross into the box when there is no one there is another story though.
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hm... then u're too easy to get complacent, beside the "cross into the box when there is no one there", i dun think we manage whip in any decent cross in the box
1. the ball always flew out to the other side of penalty box (double cross? sagna cross to clicy then clichy cross back to center?)
2. lack of dancing on the ball, when the wingback or wing try to cross the ball, please try to do some trick on the ball, this situation only apply when the ball being bounce or the ball is passing out from penalty box (striker very hard to penetrate into opponent penalty box)
>> 2.1 this will give more time for attacking players goes into the penalty box
>> 2.2 attract away the defender's attention

i wan to have some ball flew like 8-9ft height, barely flew over opponent jumping height and drop on the center of outer line of small penalty box
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wow...if he and vermaelen both go forward to score a head then we'll be easily counter attacked.
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If he's 32 years old, I think it'd be much better go for Kyrgiakos of Liverpool.
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OFFICIAL: Atletico Madrid Sign Fran Merida From Arsenal

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If he's 32 years old, I think it'd be much better go for Kyrgiakos of Liverpool.
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erm... i think the 32 year old in the report was referring to gallas, not mertesacker....=) Mertesacker is 25 years old...
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erm... i think the 32 year old in the report was referring to gallas, not mertesacker....=) Mertesacker is 25 years old...
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Debt from £250m to £200m

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I got this vid from MU thread....Maybe Arsenal wanna do sth like this....

Athletic Bilbao vs 100 kids.


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this is fun, the kids can really form a great wall in front of the goal post, and they can't use tackle
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QUOTE(taingonghai @ May 23 2010, 09:37 PM)
LOL, i gotta give it to this guy, he'll lick the socks off any teams that win, and try to prove that ahhh I'm always rite see...and when he predicts something wrong, he'll suddenly develop memory loss and change the topic.
Geez, do you even have any friends in real life?


Added on May 23, 2010, 9:41 pm
So in the previous page, you say that Robben WON'T play for us because we play "beautiful" but at the same time AW should sign him for us? Stop talking out of your *** seriously. The style of play Munich and we employ are the same, is to play an attacking game. Now go lick off Mourinho in the Inter thread  mad.gif

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this is fun, the kids can really form a great wall in front of the goal post, and they can't use tackle
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this is funny shiet lol
cant move at all, if you are among the 100 and can touch the ball.....consider very good d
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wow, Per Mertesacker with Vermealen that would be amazing but I can't see Bremen gonna let their main defender off easily.
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this is fun, the kids can really form a great wall in front of the goal post, and they can't use tackle
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Lol...just give all the kids a slide tackle.... 20+ of them will fall.
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Hugo Lloris vs Sebastien Frey vs Igor Akinfeev vs Joe Hart vs Manuel Neuer

urs ultimate next arsenal goalie?

or maybe others
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Hugo Lloris vs Sebastien Frey vs Igor Akinfeev vs Joe Hart vs Manuel Neuer

urs ultimate next arsenal goalie?

or maybe others
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i like Hugo Lloris.but id take Joe Hart anytime~maybe Igor with Andrey's advices~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(beandybean @ May 24 2010, 12:30 PM)
Dont tell me you guys stil interested to buy Arsenal jerseys..  doh.gif
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at times you may have a point, but this my friend is
by far the most silly statement ever made by you.
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I have bought the 03/04 the year we won and became invincible.
then skipped 04/05 ..with yellow line i feel strange.
then spend almost 1k for the 05/06 bought 2 long sleeves Highbury tribute shirt Henry n bergkamp chmapion lg edition..(sold at LYN recently..last month)bought the 06/07 the 1st Emirates year...and a few away shirts.
Wonder all u who talks so big ever bought a shirt.

Looking back for what the team has achieved compare to what i spend it feel stupid to continue buying ..im serious .thats why i feel better to have slowly sold back all the waste of time collections..theres no longer pride in wearing them.some i even given it free to my best frens.

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yalo...any news about the new jersey? cant wait to get it now.
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yalo...any news about the new jersey? cant wait to get it now.
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Lol...just give all the kids a slide tackle.... 20+ of them will fall.
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QUOTE(beandybean @ May 24 2010, 12:37 PM)
I have bought the 03/04 the year we won and became invincible.
then skipped 04/05 ..with yellow line i feel strange.
then spend almost 1k for the 05/06 bought 2 long sleeves Highbury tribute shirt Henry n bergkamp chmapion lg edition..(sold at LYN recently..last month)bought the 06/07 the 1st Emirates year...and a few away shirts.
Wonder all u who talks so big ever bought a shirt.

Looking back for what the team has achieved compare to what i spend it feel stupid to continue buying ..im serious .thats why i feel better to have slowly sold back all the waste of time collections..theres no longer pride in wearing them.some i even given it free to my best frens.
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well u have to understand mr. beandy, unlike u, some ppl buy jersey not just for d sake of pride.

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well u have to understand mr. beandy, unlike u, some ppl buy jersey not just for d sake of pride.
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well u have to understand mr. beandy, unlike u, some ppl buy jersey not just for d sake of pride.
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yoyo.. cheer... i buy for fun.. not shortage of money.. so dun need to sell off... tongue.gif
(just bought my 9th jerseys for this month..)

Kena scold by my wife, ask me to control myself... tongue.gif

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Debt from £250m to £200m

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I got this vid from MU thread....Maybe Arsenal wanna do sth like this....

Athletic Bilbao vs 100 kids.


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PREMIER LEAGUE NEW KIT SPECIAL: The strips your team will be wearing for season 2010-11[SIZE=7]


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...IT-SPECIAL.html

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QUOTE(beandybean @ May 24 2010, 12:37 PM)
I have bought the 03/04 the year we won and became invincible.
then skipped 04/05 ..with yellow line i feel strange.
then spend almost 1k for the 05/06 bought 2 long sleeves Highbury tribute shirt Henry n bergkamp chmapion lg edition..(sold at LYN recently..last month)bought the 06/07 the 1st Emirates year...and a few away shirts.
Wonder all u who talks so big ever bought a shirt.

Looking back for what the team has achieved compare to what i spend it feel stupid to continue buying ..im serious .thats why i feel better to have slowly sold back all the waste of time collections..theres no longer pride in wearing them.some i even given it free to my best frens.
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do you still have any jersey left? if you have...i can be your best fren.. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(realman @ May 24 2010, 02:35 PM)
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Are you sure?

I thought that was their training kit and the reserves do wear it for long time ago?
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Lol, veri nice mang. I heard At. Bil were trailing in the first half. Final whistle, At. Bilbao won 5-3. biggrin.gif
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Added on May 24, 2010, 3:33 pmArsenal to Make Fresh Approach for £8m Centre Back: Emirates Side to Make New Sakho Bid

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/05/24/ar...-new-sakho-bid/

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Added on May 24, 2010, 3:33 pmArsenal to Make Fresh Approach for £8m Centre Back: Emirates Side to Make New Sakho Bid

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We need some experience in the back four.
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Nasri's goal voted arsenal's goal of the season
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SOS

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Please no more youngster. =.=

We need some experience in the back four.
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That guy got leadership...He can be our next leader...Looking at his face you will scared edy so not much ppl will be able to pass through...Lol

I like Bendtner's header more than others....He was standing in between 2 defenders who headed with him at the same time and he got it...Lol

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Merida is leaving

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=5901
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sad...he's a good player..
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Chamakh official No 29?
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QUOTE(Liuism @ May 24 2010, 06:24 PM)
Chamakh official No 29?
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feel like buying a jersey and with his name and number hmm.gif
like his name, quite cool in a way...would suite a jersey
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I love the way our new kit looks if that pic is to be believed but its gonna be a big turnoff for me to actually wear it given how I can turn that collar from white to yellow in a day. Guess I would be more interested in the away strip.
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Yes, Chamakh is #29. Apparently from his previous club # too
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QUOTE(beandybean @ May 24 2010, 12:37 PM)
I have bought the 03/04 the year we won and became invincible.
then skipped 04/05 ..with yellow line i feel strange.
then spend almost 1k for the 05/06 bought 2 long sleeves Highbury tribute shirt Henry n bergkamp chmapion lg edition..(sold at LYN recently..last month)bought the 06/07 the 1st Emirates year...and a few away shirts.
Wonder all u who talks so big ever bought a shirt.

Looking back for what the team has achieved compare to what i spend it feel stupid to continue buying ..im serious .thats why i feel better to have slowly sold back all the waste of time collections..theres no longer pride in wearing them.some i even given it free to my best frens.
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nothing can we say..such a glory hunter..
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QUOTE(realman @ May 24 2010, 02:35 PM)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...IT-SPECIAL.html
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Not confirmed yet.

Silvestre wore this jersey for one of the visits to a Dubai Arsenal football school not too long ago. It's unlikely for Arsenal/Nike to show those pictures if they were truly the real deal, as manufacturers often only release official pictures until the very last minute.

Nevertheless, the rumour mill are reporting that we'll be returning to full white sleeves next season so it won't be too far off from this design. I'd still go for a V-neck though, roundnecks look like baju sukan from secondary school.

Anyway, welcome Chamakh and goodbye to Franny. It's sad to lose a player like Merida's quality but he has too much competition in front of him and sadly his lack of patience got the better of him. Hope he does well in Spain, and score some goals vs Barca tongue.gif

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If Arsenal sold off Fabregas this season... I hope we can get a mate for our Chamakh.

Use some of the money to buy Yoann Gourcuff... thumbup.gif

oh mang...Bordeaux gonna hate Arsenal to the max just like how Arsenal hated Barca.
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QUOTE(ametzer @ May 24 2010, 07:40 PM)
nothing can we say..such a glory hunter..
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If i drop this team to go support Chelsea then im glory hunter
But you wrong..i juz feel no more pride in wearing them..which is truthfully how i feel.You cant said im wrong.
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 24 2010, 08:02 PM)
If i drop this team to go support Chelsea then im glory hunter
But you wrong..i juz feel no more pride in wearing them..which is truthfully how i feel.You cant said im wrong.
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QUOTE(beandy @ May 24 2010, 08:02 PM)
If i drop this team to go support Chelsea then im glory hunter
But you wrong..i juz feel no more pride in wearing them..which is truthfully how i feel.You cant said im wrong.
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Yes, right. But if you feel "no more" pride wearing our jerseys, it doesn't justify the glory hunter part hmm.gif (Arsenal in glory = wear jersey, Arsenal in 3rd spot = no pride in wearing the jersey).

It's up to you how you want to define glory hunter, we have our own definitions, each of us;)

Again, I understand there are different individuals with different attributes, I fully respect them, each of them - including you wink.gif

... and guess what, I always think nothing is wrong with glory hunter. Everyone has a role to play, so does the glory hunter icon_rolleyes.gif

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What Arsene Wenger's got that Mourinho hasn't

Worth a read. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mengdez @ May 24 2010, 08:43 PM)
Is a very good article indeed. Next season will be ours!
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QUOTE(mengdez @ May 24 2010, 08:43 PM)
Dangerous article to be honest. It's easy to take shots at Mourinho's arrogance, but he has delivered the CL with both Porto and Inter plus winning the EPL twice with Chelsea. The abundance of money and ready-made, experienced players do help, but one has to be an astute manager to be able to use them effectively.

Nevertheless, I am still very proud with what Arsene has done for the club under our circumstances. Most other managers would have walked away for clubs which allow them to splurge without taking heed of the consequences. Would I swap Wenger for Mourinho now? Probably not. But if Mourinho did come he'll have my support, after all I cannot support a team without supporting its manager and players.


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QUOTE(ProbMan @ May 24 2010, 08:58 PM)
Is a very good article indeed. Next season will be ours!
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 24 2010, 09:36 PM)
I have been hearing this every season but it's not gonna happen anytime soon.
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Its coming soon. Maybe not this season, but maybe the one after.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 24 2010, 09:36 PM)
I have been hearing this every season but it's not gonna happen anytime soon.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ May 24 2010, 09:36 PM)
I have been hearing this every season but it's not gonna happen anytime soon.
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have some faith in our team
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Steven Taylor, Stephane Mbia, Sakho, Goucuff, Buffon, Arteta

hopefully the Cesc's transfer fee can be spent on some players above, if he's heading to Barca for real, this time.

and returning of our promising players like Håvard Nordtveit, Djourou and Aaron Ramsey, to fight for the first XI

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if the kits wear by silvestre is real,i think thats real ugly..

chelsea,liv,man u,spurs kit also ugly than before.

birmingham looks nice.

others decent..



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QUOTE(fish_hoo @ May 25 2010, 12:32 AM)
possible transfer player
Steven Taylor, Stephane Mbia, Sakho, Goucuff, Buffon, Arteta

hopefully the Cesc's transfer fee can be spent on some players above, if he's heading to Barca for real, this time.

and returning of our promising players like Håvard Nordtveit, Djourou and Aaron Ramsey, to fight for the first XI
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i've read the article. And it clearly speaks my mind out. As usual, we tried and have explained a lot in clarifying Wenger's contribution, current tough situation and trophy dry spell but it gets tired as we need to explain again and again. So here's the direct quote that i get from the source, which clearly explains what Arsene means to us and what he's done that transform today's football completely



Okay, so we've hit a bit of a dry spell. So what? Do you know that we went 20 years without winning a trophy once? And 17 years before winning a league title back in the 1970s and 1980s? This is all sadly ignored, and the fervent frenzy for success and putting one over your rivals as well as the sensationalist media overtures have meant that Arsène Wenger has become a victim of his own success. I can be guilty of it myself. Always demanding more, always wanting first and dismissing third or fourth as a failure. Which they are for a Club like Arsenal and for a man like Wenger.


The supporters of Inter can enjoy their Treble all they want, just like supporters of Chelsea and Porto have enjoyed success under Mourinho before them. But, just like Mourinho's previous clubs, they will be left to start all over again. And that is the same mistake Real Madrid are about to fall into. No vision, no lasting legacy, no plans for tomorrow. Just a statistic or two of purchased success today.
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The supporters of Inter can enjoy their Treble all they want, just like supporters of Chelsea and Porto have enjoyed success under Mourinho before them. But, just like Mourinho's previous clubs, they will be left to start all over again. And that is the same mistake Real Madrid are about to fall into. No vision, no lasting legacy, no plans for tomorrow. Just a statistic or two of purchased success today.
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The article also talks about Inter 100mil splash for Mourinho's ambition. Altho it is no where near Real Madrid's spending, it is enough to convince ppl that his next job will be in Bernabue. A bloody hypocrite who b**** about how much he wants to try challenge the EPL again.
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Cesc is yours... for 80 million pound..

ARSENAL last night slapped an astonishing £80million price tag on skipper Cesc Fabregas.
The Gunners will not consider selling their midfield superstar to Barcelona until after the World Cup - even though he has already told manager Arsene Wenger he wants to rejoin his boyhood club.

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And Alex Hleb tells Cesc..

Dont make my mistake, Cesc..

CESC FABREGAS has been told to stay at Arsenal - by the former Gunner whose move to Barcelona spectacularly backfired.
Arsenal's skipper has told boss Arsene Wenger he wants to return to Spain and pull on a Barca shirt next season.

But Alex Hleb, who moved from the Emirates to the Nou Camp in 2008, believes Fabregas will find life every bit as tough with Barcelona as he has.

The Belarus captain said: "I stay in touch with Cesc a lot and it's hard for me to judge what he should do.

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ya... dun make mistake like hleb done...

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Link with Steven Taylor

http://www.arsenal.com/news/transfer-links...s-steven-taylor

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Arsenal player rating by soccernet - sorry if this is a repost
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QUOTE(vandetta_10 @ May 25 2010, 10:30 AM)
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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ May 25 2010, 10:07 AM)
ya... dun make mistake like hleb done...
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Hleb unable to break into first team...thats y he regrets.but im sure Cesc can.
If you really good..you can do it everywhere.

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QUOTE(beandy @ May 25 2010, 11:14 AM)
Hleb unable to break into first team...thats y he regrets.but im sure Cesc can.
If you really good..you can do it everywhere.
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Hleb's style does not suit barca.. He can run with the ball and send in deadly crosses but thats not barca's style.. Barca likes to have midfielders cut in and isolate other forwards, passing the deadly ball to score, or just score themselves..Crossing deadly balls in barca is not the side midfielders job, but the full back's.. Moreover, having to fight with iniesta for starting 11 is hard for anybody..
Cesc on the other hand suits this profile.. Moreover he's their acedemy's product so of course..
Know that cesc is just a tool more to a missing chess peice due to the presidential election.. The new president's campaign..all propaganda.. Barca fans are very divided in the case of fabregas, some think barca needs him, other thinks he's unnecessary..Read it in barca's blog if you want to know more..IMO players like Mata would be better than cesc..in terms of strengthening the squad..


Added on May 25, 2010, 11:37 amby blog, i mean thread..

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QUOTE(beandy @ May 25 2010, 11:14 AM)
Hleb unable to break into first team...thats y he regrets.but im sure Cesc can.
If you really good..you can do it everywhere.
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morning,

kinda agree with your statement, but some how this is more suitable describe to individual game such as tennis, badminton, golf...etc

football is a team game that every player need to integrate each other. so if a player play good in here, doesn't necessary also excel in other part of the world. it all depend on the team strategy, adaption of the player. example like crespo (when in chelsea), huntelaar (when in RM), benzema (when in RM), beckham (when in RM), veron (when in MU), forlan (when in MU).

But i believe with the quality of cesc, he can excel in La Liga (after all he's a spanish). But of course i wish him to stay.
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QUOTE(waynewong79 @ May 25 2010, 11:39 AM)
morning,

kinda agree with your statement, but some how this is more suitable describe to individual game such as tennis, badminton, golf...etc

football is a team game that every player need to integrate each other. so if a player play good in here, doesn't necessary also excel in other part of the world. it all depend on the team strategy, adaption of the player. example like crespo (when in chelsea), huntelaar (when in RM), benzema (when in RM), beckham (when in RM), veron (when in MU), forlan (when in MU).

But i believe with the quality of cesc, he can excel in La Liga (after all he's a spanish). But of course i wish him to stay.
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Right ... Hleb was good as a unit in Arsenal but his just mediocre compare to Barca already established midfield of Xavi,iniesta..Cesc will not have difficulty like Hleb because he can just fit into the set up which he already familiar.

So hleb comments are nonsense... Cesc should leave in search of glory.
There's nothing to look forward if he stay.Indeed he should have left that year flamini n hleb gone.

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Right ... Hleb was good as a unit in Arsenal but his just mediocre compare to Barca already established midfield of Xavi,iniesta..Cesc will not have difficulty like Hleb because he can just fit into the set up which he already familiar.

So hleb comments are nonsense... Cesc should leave in search of glory.
There's nothing to look forward if he stay.Indeed he should have left that year flamini n hleb gone.
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Dude..wrong thread? tongue.gif
You wanna get bashed by gunner supportters that bad ah?? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(myhotgary2 @ May 25 2010, 12:03 PM)
Dude..wrong thread? tongue.gif
You wanna get bashed by gunner supportters that bad ah?? laugh.gif
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his management style quite different than arsene..that's why.. biggrin.gif
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80million..Hell no they are paying for it... They don't need cesc and used him just for the best...Although other of their 'free' candidates rose from their youth system is not as great as Fabregas but 80million to get something you already have just that not too good of the quality does not worth it.
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80 million?

they might as well develop another pedro/messi/xavi/iniesta...laugh.gif
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QUOTE(myhotgary2 @ May 25 2010, 12:03 PM)
Dude..wrong thread? tongue.gif
You wanna get bashed by gunner supportters that bad ah?? laugh.gif
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he always get bashed here wif his nonsense comment...claim to be arsenal supporter but always talk negative... rclxms.gif
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Cesc will be fit in Barca if they play 4 midfielders, form by Iniesta-Xavi-Cesc-Keita, else, don't think they will need another CM more than a LF/LW who can subs with Pedro.

And one last thing, only the chairman involved in the transfer rumors
The manager? Silence.
Sounds like Andrei Svechenko when he went to Chelsea? And what's the end?
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QUOTE(liez @ May 25 2010, 12:10 PM)
80million..Hell no they are paying for it... They don't need cesc and used him just for the best...Although other of their 'free' candidates rose from their youth system is not as great as Fabregas but 80million to get something you already have just that not too good of the quality does not worth it.
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they dont have enuff money..

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Barcelona still owe Arsenal €16m from the transfers of Henry and Hleb (€12m and 4m respectively) (figures from The Swiss Ramble) so they are obviously not a club operating under a 'sustainable model' as they like to loudly proclaim (in fact, they owe a total of €50m in unpaid transfer fees to a number of clubs, probably the Spanish clubs who are financially crippled and imploding all around them - how are they buying players for €57m when they can't afford to pay clubs for players they've reaped the benefit of for years? (with Hleb being the obvious exception to the 'benefit').


if that happen,80M for barca bound player is just good business..
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take the 80m mr wenger...we can buy a lot of player wif that...n dont give any to board...they only want for themselves...haha
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QUOTE(fish_hoo @ May 25 2010, 12:18 PM)
Cesc will be fit in Barca if they play 4 midfielders, form by Iniesta-Xavi-Cesc-Keita, else, don't think they will need another CM more than a LF/LW who can subs with Pedro.

And one last thing, only the chairman involved in the transfer rumors
The manager? Silence.
Sounds like Andrei Svechenko when he went to Chelsea? And what's the end?
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You have to understand the system in barca..The manager does not directly orders for transfer.. The sporting director txiki belgiristain is the one pulling the strings..He takes only advices from the coach, but ORDERS from el presidente..LOL
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i cannot foresee how they spend so much money...

spain's economy is going to collapse anytime soon just like greece..

maybe la liga will then be only barca n RM for 38 games.
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That's why I said situation about Shevchenko, or maybe Ibrahimovic for now.
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Barca = Spain

Cesc dun even have a guarantee place in Spain team.. when he move to Barca.. same thing will happen...

I think he need to wait for 1 or 2 years... will be on the bench at Barca..

at Arsenal, he is the middle point of all the passing... just like Henry last time round.. everything was builded around Henry... When he go there, things were different..

Don't think is the best time for him to leave now.. for us, 50mil is good for business.. not just AW, even all the supporter will agree that with the money and AW vision..
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yea..cesc is not even first choice for spain...

aniesta and xavi already formed such a strong midfield i dun see why pep wanna break it apart just to fit cesc..
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QUOTE(vandetta_10 @ May 25 2010, 12:20 PM)
take the 80m mr wenger...we can buy a lot of player wif that...n dont give any to board...they only want for themselves...haha
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can't replace too many player..new player need time to adapt in this league..
but please no more 'one man team'..

and must important arsene should do something with club medic..arsha and bendtner already blame them..
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dun think Barca will give us 80mil.. at most also 50mil..

with the 50mil, to buy a player lke Gourcuff is more than enough... we even can buy 2.. no doubt we like Cesc, we dun wan him to leave... but if every season when transfer window open.. same shit will happen..


Added on May 25, 2010, 12:36 pmyaya.. i think there is something wrong with our physio.. we have enough player to play.. but just alway get injured...

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QUOTE(ohhisee @ May 25 2010, 12:18 PM)
they dont have enuff money..

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they dont need to have enough money....no money but want to have fabregas??? give us some barcelona shares. and since its not cash, we demand the value to be more than 80m GDP....If they are not willing to give up shares with a high price buy back clause...dont buy it. beggars cant be choosers.
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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ May 25 2010, 12:35 PM)
dun think Barca will give us 80mil.. at most also 50mil..

with the 50mil, to buy a player lke Gourcuff is more than enough... we even can buy 2.. no doubt we like Cesc, we dun wan him to leave... but if every season when transfer window open.. same shit will happen..


Added on May 25, 2010, 12:36 pmyaya.. i think there is something wrong with our physio.. we have enough player to play.. but just alway get injured...
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but those players always tend to get injured in international tournament wor.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(vandetta_10 @ May 25 2010, 12:20 PM)
take the 80m mr wenger...we can buy a lot of player wif that...n dont give any to board...they only want for themselves...haha
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I will like to see our debt go down by 80m more... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(liez @ May 25 2010, 12:40 PM)
I will like to see our debt go down by 80m more...  rclxms.gif
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debt can be slowly paid, most important retain our main player for a better future
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but for Cesc case, if we manage to keep him this July,
then Jan transfer window open, same thing will happen again..

then next july?

Better we take money and start to build the team now instead of tomorrow...
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80m? better buy Torres , Combine Torres And Villa Striker Partnership And Messi As Forward Xavi+ Aniesta At Mid , You Guys Are Right Barca Dun Need Cesc ...They Trying To Buy Cesc Just Because He Might Replacing Xavi 1 Day In The Future
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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ May 25 2010, 12:46 PM)
but for Cesc case, if we manage to keep him this July,
then Jan transfer window open, same thing will happen again..

then next july?

Better we take money and start to build the team now instead of tomorrow...
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lol, he got a point.....nv thought of this
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QUOTE(rosicky_return @ May 25 2010, 12:46 PM)
but for Cesc case, if we manage to keep him this July,
then Jan transfer window open, same thing will happen again..

then next july?

Better we take money and start to build the team now instead of tomorrow...
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just like C.Ronaldo Case
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QUOTE(arvil22 @ May 25 2010, 12:52 PM)
just like C.Ronaldo Case
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and just like ADE case..he want to transfer a year before to AC milan but Gunner dehied his request..so what happen? he play like 'taik' after that..but its ok bcoz 28M into our pocket doesnt seem a little one..haha

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