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MechaHerc
post May 18 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2010, 04:08 PM)
lol..tot u just want take the sun ma...but if u wan moving clouds..unless the wind really big.u need more than 30s lo...

but u dun reli need the filter..

increase f number..then u can lower shutter speed liao...ND doesn't really serve a big purpose here...IMnoobO...
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actually u wrong, 30sc in daylight will get white screen there.. or when sunset time u will reli overexprosure shot.. thats why must use ND filter there..

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post May 18 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2010, 04:08 PM)
lol..tot u just want take the sun ma...but if u wan moving clouds..unless the wind really big.u need more than 30s lo...

but u dun reli need the filter..

increase f number..then u can lower shutter speed liao...ND doesn't really serve a big purpose here...IMnoobO...
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here example without ND or GND
this was taken at Jeram at 7.40pm,

[ 1/25s | f/5.6 | ISO 200 ]
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i tried to get the dreamy long exposure without ND or GND

[ 2.0s | f/22.0 | ISO 100 ]
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not so much of diff or dreamy from above
so decrease abit of shutter

[ 5.0s | f/22.0 | ISO 100 ] sweat.gif
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seriously need ND, multiple ND + GND is better nod.gif
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post May 18 2010, 04:28 PM

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30s daylight also might have chance to cook your sensor smile.gif
why don't try make time-lapse stop-motion video?? then you can see the sun set and the cloud move and the difference waves..

if u still need the landscape in picture, maybe u need not only 1 ND filter, but stack of them.. smile.gif (maybe a ND8 + GND + CPL)
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post May 18 2010, 04:31 PM

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@ mastering : Wah 3rd pic look like morning laugh.gif

@ hiansitt : Thanks for the tip! But I only got ND4 tongue.gif

Will go get ND8 to stack later on brows.gif
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post May 18 2010, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 18 2010, 04:28 PM)
30s daylight also might have chance to cook your sensor smile.gif
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long exposure does not destroy the sensor... !
That is a myth !!!

Added on May 18, 2010, 4:38 pmwhat you can do for sunset photography if do not have ND filters ... is to wait some more until it gets darker... then you can use long exposure... might get a more dramatic shots too... 8^)

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....... and MUCH more wonderful spectrum of colors in the sky.
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post May 18 2010, 04:44 PM

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Thanks Banzai & William for the heads up!

Will try both biggrin.gif
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post May 18 2010, 04:46 PM

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oh ya. i thought long exposure with direct sunlight will ? (din mean other else, but with direct sunlight)
based on what i know (although it might be wrong)
because direct sunlight will heat up the sensor, and might melt the circuit behind it?
(same concept applied when u use a lens and focus the light below the paper, the paper get burned)

sorry for misleading..
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post May 18 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 18 2010, 04:46 PM)
oh ya. i thought long exposure with direct sunlight will ? (din mean other else, but with direct sunlight)
based on what i know (although it might be wrong)
because direct sunlight will heat up the sensor, and might melt the circuit behind it?
(same concept applied when u use a lens and focus the light below the paper, the paper get burned)

sorry for misleading..
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Sunset wont do damage to your sensor.. plus, sunset moment is very short, i've never used tripod to catch one!
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only thing i destroyed was my metering sensor when i shot the last eclipse of the sun a year back. laugh.gif sensor still okay ah.
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post May 18 2010, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 18 2010, 04:36 PM)
long exposure does not destroy the sensor... !
That is a myth !!!

Added on May 18, 2010, 4:38 pmwhat you can do for sunset photography if do not have ND filters ... is to wait some more until it gets darker... then you can use long exposure... might get a more dramatic shots too... 8^)
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alot can still do lah sweat.gif

can also do strobe for stunning potraiture with superb sunset/sunrise background... laugh.gif
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also can do silhouette icon_rolleyes.gif
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sorry for using old pic haha
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post May 18 2010, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(hiansitt @ May 18 2010, 03:38 PM)
i thought GND might more helpful in sunset pic ?
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yes it does if u know how to use it properly.. turn it diagonally and u'll get a very wierd picture tongue.gif

QUOTE(electron @ May 18 2010, 03:50 PM)
dunno if you guys saw this
but someone is selling danbo at the garage sale area
then can do danbo shots
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he's looking for pre-order partners...

QUOTE(lwliam @ May 18 2010, 03:52 PM)
why not just fully utilize the kit lens 1st before buying this buying that?

you dont even know what use is an ND is for, and yet you still want to buy it, then when photos come out all dark and underexposed, complain why cannot get what i see from those nice nice pic one.. be it 50mm or kit lens (which ALSO has 50mm range) its gonna work great if you know how to utilize it. all there is are settings. if u want brighter shots, prop it on a tripod and put a longer shutter, dont even have to use f/1.8 from the 50mm for portrait, stand further a bit use 70mm, and there u go, bokeh!
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yes.. u should see what f8 on 200mm can do! (if ur subject is standing far from u, and the bg is also further away...) damn bokeh man! even more nicer than f1.8! (talking about SAL55200)
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My sunset & sunrises of Langkawi..

Sunset - No tripod yo~

Sunrise - Need some long shutter!

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post May 18 2010, 05:01 PM

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yup i start to love 55-200.. easy to get f4..
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post May 18 2010, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 18 2010, 05:01 PM)
yup i start to love 55-200.. easy to get f4..
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post May 18 2010, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 18 2010, 04:27 PM)
here example without ND or GND
this was taken at Jeram at 7.40pm,

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u didn't try 3 or 4 seconds? maybe won over exposed?
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evening shot, all using A100 on tripod, light levels were dropping fast... didn't even use wide aperture, all at f/11

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set the WB wrongly for this shot. but turned out nice...

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post May 18 2010, 05:19 PM

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@ croomaniac: How did you get that 2 tone effect for your 1st shot? biggrin.gif Nice one!

@ william: Like your first pic! 2nd pic abit blue-ish, but gives it a nice calm feel thumbup.gif
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post May 18 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2010, 05:05 PM)
u didn't try 3 or 4 seconds? maybe won over exposed?
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nope,
probably get result of between the 2s and 5s.
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QUOTE(cassplayer @ May 18 2010, 05:19 PM)
@ croomaniac: How did you get that 2 tone effect for your 1st shot? biggrin.gif Nice one!

@ william: Like your first pic! 2nd pic abit blue-ish, but gives it a nice calm feel thumbup.gif
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if you notice what i wrote in the post...

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set the WB wrongly for this shot. 


and that definitely not ABIT bluish... its VERY blue! LOL

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