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TYK
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Jun 23 2005, 01:07 PM
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I would like to ask about the application methods. Normally people nowadays apply jobs through several means: 1. Click in Jobstreet.com job postings 2. Send resume and cover letter to the company's HR email. The email address normally listed in the newspaper advertisements. So, is it still a popular mean that applying jobs by sending normal mail, ie. resume and cover letter printed out in hardcopy form and stuffed in an envelope to be sent? I just want to find out a formal way that make the employer thinks that I am serious about the application. Sorry for this as I admit I really bad at marketing myself.
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mwtang
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Jun 23 2005, 11:42 PM
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true, first impression is vital. If you attach a photo make sure u look smart. THe rest have to be short and simple. I was told once that i should liist out all the events i participated. This would help to characterize yourself from the interviewer point.
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suanne
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Jun 25 2005, 06:24 AM
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Pray before you meet up with the interviewer. I always do this and ask God to decide for me. If this job isn't good for me, then don't let me have it, otherwise, help me get the job. It works in the sense that you will feel more calm. Little prayers help.
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mwtang
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Jul 2 2005, 01:55 PM
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every sense help i guess.
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p4n6
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Jul 10 2005, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(TYK @ Jun 23 2005, 01:07 PM) I would like to ask about the application methods. Normally people nowadays apply jobs through several means: 1. Click in Jobstreet.com job postings 2. Send resume and cover letter to the company's HR email. The email address normally listed in the newspaper advertisements. So, is it still a popular mean that applying jobs by sending normal mail, ie. resume and cover letter printed out in hardcopy form and stuffed in an envelope to be sent? I just want to find out a formal way that make the employer thinks that I am serious about the application. Sorry for this as I admit I really bad at marketing myself.  Try both.
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KeonG118
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Jul 17 2005, 03:29 AM
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somemore u can search thru the google for company's email, then u can send out email to them.. i got my job this way..
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vvv
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Jul 26 2005, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(KeonG118 @ Jul 17 2005, 03:29 AM) somemore u can search thru the google for company's email, then u can send out email to them.. i got my job this way..  but most probably ur email going into sea
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isabellawcs
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Aug 1 2005, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(vvv @ Jul 26 2005, 11:10 AM) but most probably ur email going into sea Agree... I think chance is bigger when we are more specific...
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masterelr
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Aug 21 2005, 04:13 PM
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This is a sample of a resume I found online. I'm wondering if its ok if I use this kind of format. Or is it too simple? It does not include the cover letter does it? What does " Resume reference:" mean? QUOTE I am looking for a job which either involved in ICT industry or non-ICT industry. I am computer literated person and have basic skills in computer science or information technology including C++, Visual Basic, MySQL and some knowledge in web development. I am good at teaching and have an interesting personality such as outgoing, flexible and good in communication and being middle person. I am a fresh graduate with very little experience except during my training period in NovaMSC Bhd, Technology Park Malaysia where I helped in the development of a system called Sumber Putra II for Perbadanan Putrajaya. I could speak and write excellently in B.Melayu and English.
Resume reference: zaUWYJ9z Date last updated: 7 July 2005 Education: Bachelor's degree - Information Technology major in Information System Engineering Experience: Just finished studying Employment situation: Looking for my first job Salary expectations: Rm 1800 - rm 2200 Availability: Immediately Type of employment: Full Time Location: Melaka - Jasin Looking to work in: Johor, Kedah, Kelantan, Melaka, Negeri Sembilan, Pahang, Perak, Perlis, Pulau Pinang, Putrajaya, Selangor, Terengganu Age: 22 Gender: Female Marital status: Single Own transport: Yes Driver's license: Yes Citizenship: Malaysia Right to work Yes, I have citizenship English level: Fluent Malay level: Native speaker
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Geminist
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Aug 21 2005, 06:51 PM
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My opinion is... it's too simple ... haha.... No, that definitely doesn't look like there's any cover letter in it.. She could have written more specifically about her job skill and the experience from her training period is definitely worth mentioning in details it all of them are relevant to the job.... This looks like a general resume and it seems that she doesn't have any plans regarding the jobs she wants... She mentioned basic computer skills but how basic is her basic? Knowing how to start/close a program? She mentioned her extra skills like good at teaching, outgoing and flexible... Again, why she said she is good at things she said? No examples... I am a fresh graduate with little experience is not advised to be mentioned because in some employers eye, you may seemed like you have low self esteem... About the rest, I can say that she miss details and details is important... Anyways, this is just my opinion... Perhaps you can wait for answers from more experienced ppl like joblisted or dreamer
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masterelr
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Aug 21 2005, 10:56 PM
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Thanks for the feedback Geminist. Indeed it does look a bit simple....
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masterelr
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Aug 22 2005, 01:49 PM
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I read from somewhere that it is better to print your resume using a laser printer and high quality paper. Is this true? I only have a cheap printer and some normal A4 papers at home. Won't that do?
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dreamer101
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Aug 22 2005, 02:40 PM
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10k Club
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QUOTE(masterelr @ Aug 22 2005, 01:49 PM) I read from somewhere that it is better to print your resume using a laser printer and high quality paper. Is this true? I only have a cheap printer and some normal A4 papers at home. Won't that do? Hi, That is a very poor excuse!!! Nowaday, even a cheap inkjet printer can print at 1,200dpi and match the quality of a laser printer. Are you trying to tell us that you are not resourceful enough to solve this problem??? Dreamer
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masterelr
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Aug 22 2005, 02:52 PM
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Eh..not really. I was just asking but thanks for the reply.
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dreamer101
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Aug 22 2005, 02:58 PM
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10k Club
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QUOTE(masterelr @ Aug 22 2005, 02:52 PM) Eh..not really. I was just asking but thanks for the reply.  Hi, If you are going to use inkjet printer, make sure that the paper that you use is compatible with inkjet printing. Most normal 70g copy paper is not compatible with inkjet and it will smear.. Dreamer
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firewire
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Aug 23 2005, 02:37 PM
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Do I list my references in my CV or do I put "References available upon request"? I've got conflicting views about this from some websites. Any ideas guys?
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dreamer101
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Aug 23 2005, 08:55 PM
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10k Club
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QUOTE(firewire @ Aug 23 2005, 02:37 PM) Do I list my references in my CV or do I put "References available upon request"? I've got conflicting views about this from some websites. Any ideas guys? Hi, I don't list my reference and I do not put "Reference available upon request" on my resume unless it is a requirement in the job posting. Dreamer
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mwtang
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Aug 25 2005, 07:55 PM
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i have always put my references in it as i have nothing to hide about my previous job.
being professional is one thing, being street smart enuf to let ya previous boss knows that he be getting a call soon and hope he will help you out , thats another thing.
of course, u have to make sure of your creditability therefore having references have never post any worries
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dreamer101
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Aug 25 2005, 09:33 PM
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10k Club
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Aug 25 2005, 07:55 PM) i have always put my references in it as i have nothing to hide about my previous job. being professional is one thing, being street smart enuf to let ya previous boss knows that he be getting a call soon and hope he will help you out , thats another thing. of course, u have to make sure of your creditability therefore having references have never post any worries Hi mwtang, I am sorry to tell you that if I am reading your CV and I find your reference in it. It will raise a red flag in me. I might be strange or abnormal but I am telling you honestly what that will do to me. There is a famous Chinese proverb, "There is no 300 ounces of silver here". People that has good creditability do not need a reference. Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 25 2005, 09:36 PM
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mwtang
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Aug 25 2005, 09:38 PM
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its entirely up to u, but so far it got me to where i am. being smart or ethical wont get u far,....regardless to that one must always have the creditability.
i once was taught, its not how much u know is how u know and whom u know that would measure how far u go...
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