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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V5

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post Oct 24 2010, 05:23 PM

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not rare, just uncommon imo
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post Oct 24 2010, 05:24 PM

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nope. they are the most underutilized turtle in food market.
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post Oct 24 2010, 05:32 PM

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any1 knws wher to get this in malaysiauser posted image

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post Oct 24 2010, 07:38 PM

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DIY! XD DIY is more fun actually... If u ask me i prefer DIY.. jz not UN-lazy enuf too haha...

Anyone know if AceHardware sell anything sand-related? And is their sand aquarium safe if so cheaper than LFS? because I wanna buy sand to cover 6'x4' area..
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post Oct 25 2010, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 24 2010, 05:24 PM)
nope. they are the most underutilized turtle in food market.
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because of the stench smell laugh.gif
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post Oct 25 2010, 08:15 PM

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What kind of wood can we use to be the fencing for an outdoor enclosure? My dog keep attacking my star. Or does anyone know where to get the green fence used for housing areas??
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updatee~~ rclxm9.gif

Female: 4.5in SCL
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Male: 2-2.5in SCL dam i forgot to measure
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C&C welcomed
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post Oct 26 2010, 12:11 PM

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anyone know how to sex the tortoise or turtle or terrapin?
i heard of people said watch their tail and etc, i was confuse.
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post Oct 26 2010, 12:49 PM

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max-orgasm : the best (most universally accurate) way is to measure the distance of cloacal opening (*******) from the body.

males (which usually have longer/thicker tails) have cloacal opening further from the body compared to females to accommodate the length of their penis and to ease penetration. (except ryokentaki, which only have 0.5")

other than that, there are other sexual dimorphism that aids the purpose of mating/laying - concave plastron and longer nails on front limbs to help males mount on female, longer nails on hind limbs to help females dig, etc.

and depending on species, dimorphism are also present in color (Callagur, etc), patterns (Sacalia sp, etc), adult sizes, etc.
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the censored word was @ssh0le LOL. darn forum!

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post Oct 26 2010, 11:31 PM

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camille will get very excited on stuffs like this laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:07 PM

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This question is directed to Camil:

"Is turtle breeding a profitable venture?"

I am sure Sam will answer "yes". But he is different. He can even profit from selling sh1ts (literally).

So, I want to hear your views on this.

And Sam, please be quiet aight smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 07:33 PM

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in relation to other reptiles you've been doing so far, the answer is a definite NO.

reasons:
1) takes ages to sexually mature
2) takes more space
3) much more setup requirement (water/land area, basking light)
4) more overhead costs (electricity, water bills, high food intake)
5) niche market
6) some of those most profitable stuff (morphs aside) are things that can't be obtained or traded without legal whatnots.

if you ask nonono, of course his answer will be YES. but he's different. he feeds albino redfoot corns, puts albino sulcata under direct midday sun and answers questions like ah beng, but he can still make sales LOLLLL
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post Oct 27 2010, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 26 2010, 12:49 PM)
max-orgasm
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post Oct 28 2010, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 27 2010, 07:33 PM)
in relation to other reptiles you've been doing so far, the answer is a definite NO.

reasons:
1) takes ages to sexually mature
2) takes more space
3) much more setup requirement (water/land area, basking light)
4) more overhead costs (electricity, water bills, high food intake)
5) niche market
6) some of those most profitable stuff (morphs aside) are things that can't be obtained or traded without legal whatnots.

if you ask nonono, of course his answer will be YES. but he's different. he feeds albino redfoot corns, puts albino sulcata under direct midday sun and answers questions like ah beng, but he can still make sales LOLLLL
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I received the same photos from Fred (all the way from Germany) and more when I wanted to buy some a few years ago. LOL!


Added on October 28, 2010, 9:41 amBy the way, they are no means regular redfoots. They are cherry heads.

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Just for info.

Regards


Added on October 28, 2010, 9:49 amAnd to Mamak Kimak (aka Perhilitan SCUM), please snapshot this statement and store in my file (if you have one) -

THEY ARE NOT MINE! THEY ARE STILL IN GERMANY YOU STUPID FUC.K!

LMAO!

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post Oct 28 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 27 2010, 07:33 PM)
in relation to other reptiles you've been doing so far, the answer is a definite NO.

reasons:
1) takes ages to sexually mature
2) takes more space
3) much more setup requirement (water/land area, basking light)
4) more overhead costs (electricity, water bills, high food intake)
5) niche market
6) some of those most profitable stuff (morphs aside) are things that can't be obtained or traded without legal whatnots.

if you ask nonono, of course his answer will be YES. but he's different. he feeds albino redfoot corns, puts albino sulcata under direct midday sun and answers questions like ah beng, but he can still make sales LOLLLL
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LOL at the comment.

F: Just get them. Dont think too much. Sam is with you.
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post Oct 28 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(reptileskingdom @ Oct 28 2010, 12:51 PM)
LOL at the comment.

F: Just get them. Dont think too much. Sam is with you.
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He is?! It's like saying "God is with you! Godspeed!" LOL!

Anyway, I was just wondering because a friend from Indonesia is breeding them like nobody's business...from sulcatas to even malayemys subtrijugas. One species after another! While over here, macam nak mampus sial nak breed. I think I need to drop by and have a look on how they do it la. Macam senang gila jer...


Added on October 28, 2010, 1:29 pmAnother thing is that I was asking about turtles and not tortoises smile.gif

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post Oct 28 2010, 01:48 PM

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Turtle: You know where to market them aint. Should have big market there. Saw some photos and videos. Lots of them being offer for sale, and good price too.

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post Oct 28 2010, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(reptileskingdom @ Oct 28 2010, 01:48 PM)
Turtle: You know where to market them aint. Should have big market there. Saw some photos and videos. Lots of them being offer for sale, and good price too.
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True! But I am more concerned on how to breed them rather than how to market them. So far, I have seen quite a number of failures in Malaysia. I am not sure why but I think it's husbandry related. Or are they really that hard to keep and breed?

Another thing is that, is there such thing as an albino Callagur borneoensis in captivity?


Added on October 28, 2010, 2:59 pmOk. I just checked with CITES. I'm stoked! smile.gif

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post Oct 29 2010, 12:09 AM

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Just drop by to say hi. Long long time never back here!
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