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stimix
post Jul 6 2011, 03:42 PM

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NVM, atleast i state my point on the community mappings in Malaysia and how these 2 malsingmaps & malfreemaps started way back in 2003 by a Singaporean & a m'sian enthuthiasts.

Without them, there will be no detail commercial maps as per Today. I respect your preference on Aura and we hope either malsingmaps & maolfreemaps will expand by colloborating with them too so that we can have malfreemaps installed in sygic/aura for better navi IU. & more hardware that support these updated maps.

But for you telling others that updated maps is not important really hurt the feeliong of those spending their weekend tracking miles & miles and having wife nagging inside the car for following us tracking new roads...

They are the pioneer that resulted in the GPS blooming in malaysia since recentr years..and you should thank the communities for the most updated maps in M'sia. For your info, I have evidence of those commercial maps copying malsingmaps & malfreemaps data and build they maps..damn cheating haha

Even some of the time bomb placed inside malsingmaps/malfreemaps been copied by Googlemaps!! I was so proud when googlemaps having my tracklogs & road nemed after my name years ago haha..Well, years ago b4 goopglemaps deleted their copied road, you can find "Lorong stimix" in googlemaps haha
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sorry if i offended u, i use sygic because it works for me, and not papago (it doesn't really work on my DHD because of gps lock is frustrating). plus it saved me from a lot of trouble getting out of back roads and small towns. i don't use it in KL because I know the roads like the back of my hand, the only city / state big enough for me to really need navi is Penang and Singapore, and I'll tell u Penang's roads are ALWAYS under construction and changing really quickly, just like KL, sometimes 6 months didn't visit got new flyover already........but for me (personal opinion) accuracy, response, POI and gps lock (on android at least) is more important than map updates because no matter how outdated the maps are, there WILL BE some roads that will never change, ever, even if it takes me twice as long to get to my destination, well, at least i can reach there without sweating due to lost in the jungle (of concrete)
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post Jul 6 2011, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(godofsquirrel @ Apr 28 2010, 06:36 PM)
Garmin and Papago are quite famous software for GPS in Malaysia. Thus, I was wondering which brand is the best?
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i like to use papago. but i have the garmin new map july 2011. http://www.easy-share.com/1916505761/MFM-Garmin-110704.exe
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post Jul 6 2011, 08:03 PM

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Sifu trying to show that updated maps helps alot especially when navigating example of garmin if u cant find the road u can find shop name or even landmark due to its up to date POI.

My accord is using papago. Its searches its not as flexible as garmin. Of course navigation UI all this models is way better than garmin because garmin stop updating its software but only the map is keep getting up to date.


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post Jul 6 2011, 11:49 PM

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Ehhh..Why goto those file sharing to Dl when you can get directly free from the original source biggrin.gif

BTW, malfreemaps has just u[pdated the July version of papago:

http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f...7cefc2c8fbff6f6
QUOTE(kwaikiong @ Jul 6 2011, 06:48 PM)
i like to use papago. but i have the garmin new map july 2011. http://www.easy-share.com/1916505761/MFM-Garmin-110704.exe
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post Jul 7 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Jul 6 2011, 09:38 AM)
well it's better than papago that won't work on devices with low gps receiving like the desire HD.  it takes forever to lock gps using papago, it takes about 5 seconds for aura.  I'll take the long route any day because I'll actually REACH MY DESTINATION before the gps locks on papago, thank you
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What if your destination is not found in the map? I've experienced it before. Want to visit new property area, don't know how to go. Searched Ovi Maps, blank area. Google Maps, blank area. Enter area name into Papago, BAM, it shows me the way. This is a very important factor for me, because usually I use GPS for unplanned trips. If planned, I have other sources like Internet, ask friends, use real maps, etc.

Tip: don't use Papago to lock onto the GPS, use another software, then switch to Papago. No problems every time.

QUOTE(stimix @ Jul 5 2011, 09:24 PM)
same maps lah but outdated. MFM=malfreemaps. the link I given is direct from the original mapper themselve.

Anyway, the review on Sygic maps also featured in MFM site here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1945731

Really impressive & as others mentioned much better UI & graphic than papago/Garmin..too bad as those users said- lack of maps updates & detail maps for Malaysia
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Link broken, bro. Care to repost? Wanna try Sygic.

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post Jul 7 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jul 7 2011, 10:25 AM)
What if your destination is not found in the map?  I've experienced it before.  Want to visit new property area, don't know how to go.  Searched Ovi Maps, blank area.  Google Maps, blank area.  Enter area name into Papago, BAM, it shows me the way.  This is a very important factor for me, because usually I use GPS for unplanned trips.  If planned, I have other sources like Internet, ask friends, use real maps, etc.

Tip:  don't use Papago to lock onto the GPS, use another software, then switch to Papago.  No problems every time.
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If my map don't show anything, then I will my switch my OVI Maps to "Walk" mode and use the compass to show me the direction in a straight line & distance to final destination. And believe me, some of the places I go, I doubt even Malfree map got map because there are no physical road in the 1st place, only dirt track.
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post Jul 7 2011, 12:22 PM

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Opsss...haha given the wrong link..actually it's in MFM not LYN haha

Here..Have to agree that the IU & graphic really cool..but as those reviewed said- M'sia maps still not as updated ..Hope malfreemaps will be able to provide maps for Sygic... rclxms.gif
http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f...990&hilit=sygic
QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jul 7 2011, 10:25 AM)
Link broken, bro.  Care to repost?  Wanna try Sygic.
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Added on July 7, 2011, 12:24 pmBro, be more positive.. give me the cooridnate & I show you...You should give malfreemaps a try smile.gif All the hard working ppl going MTB, $WD entering those dirt tracks..well not all but keep on expanding smile.gif

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jul 7 2011, 10:33 AM)
If my map don't show anything, then I will my switch my OVI Maps to "Walk" mode and use the compass to show me the direction in a straight line & distance to final destination. And believe me, some of the places I go, I doubt even Malfree map got map because there are no physical road in the 1st place, only dirt track.
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post Jul 7 2011, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jul 7 2011, 12:22 PM)
Bro, be more positive.. give me the cooridnate & I show you...You should give malfreemaps a try  smile.gif All the hard working ppl going MTB, $WD entering those dirt tracks..well not all but keep on expanding  smile.gif
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post Jul 7 2011, 01:03 PM

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Deep inside Mukah jungle & Sarikei in Sarawak..OK no lor haha..Not many active GPS trackers in Sarawak.. I dun think ovimaps also having any maps inside these areas biggrin.gif

What I mean are those famous MTB or 4WD jungle tracks in Pen Malaysia..mostly inside malfreemaps dy..Even you can see tracks to lotsa famous summit of mountain in Pen Malaysia side. but not navigeable via satelite..bcos detached from the main road on purpose...Otherwise..very misleading smile.gif
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2.841915, 112.150223
2.130096, 111.342584 Wharf
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post Jul 7 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jul 7 2011, 10:33 AM)
If my map don't show anything, then I will my switch my OVI Maps to "Walk" mode and use the compass to show me the direction in a straight line & distance to final destination. And believe me, some of the places I go, I doubt even Malfree map got map because there are no physical road in the 1st place, only dirt track.
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What direction? What destination? Can't find the place, don't know where it is, how to find it on Ovi Maps?
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post Jul 7 2011, 03:17 PM

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Ovimaps is only superior when you need free oversea maps. but when comes to malaysia, really cacat lor. Lotsa routing error & not as updated maps & POI compare to Garmin/papago -malfreemaps.

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jul 7 2011, 03:01 PM)
What direction?  What destination?  Can't find the place, don't know where it is, how to find it on Ovi Maps?
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It only work if you already know the coordinates.

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post Jul 7 2011, 03:43 PM

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This one any GPS navigator also can liao lor..just key in the coordinate & just follow the way there wth a compass biggrin.gif .

Bro, you really need to try out other navigator lor...dun only stick to only one, there are pros & cons on others too..Now I'm really tempted on Sygic liao haha drool.gif Just hope malfreemaps in future able to work wth them notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jul 7 2011, 03:21 PM)
It only work if you already know the coordinates.
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post Jul 7 2011, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jul 7 2011, 03:43 PM)
This one any GPS navigator also can liao lor..just key in the coordinate & just follow the way there wth a compass  biggrin.gif .

Bro, you really need to try out other navigator lor...dun only stick to only one, there are pros & cons on others too..Now I'm really tempted on Sygic liao haha drool.gif Just hope malfreemaps in future able to work wth them  notworthy.gif
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I actually started off with Nokia Maps and Garmin. But I like the UI of Maps better and stick with that. Beside, after I reset the phone, the Garmin had become inoperable so never bother since. For me, as long as it can get me from A to B, it's fine with me.
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post Jul 7 2011, 04:02 PM

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For me UI also nice but the most important thing is the accuracy or routing and also the most updated maps.
Any navigator also can bring you fom point A to B. There is no deny on it but if one navigator routed you 30KM xtra from another which is much more accurate or even suggested weird routing ..That's no good dy..
I tested so many times on Ovimaps & Garmin & ovimaps till Today really lousy. Well, anyway, I still like Ovimaps UI compare to Garmin haha smile.gif ..The routing & also Ovimaps reluctant to corporate wth malfreemaps also resulted wth them having their own lousy maps supplier wth outdated maps...

Wth the none inclusion of lotsa new Highways in Klang Valley, imagine going from the Southern part of Kalng Valley via Kesa Highway to Federal highway.., Ovimaps willo route you an extra 30km bypassing the new LIKAS highway connecting Southern Shah Alam to Northern Shah Alam?

Or imagine in another few more weeks, ppl who use the updated papago/Garmin malfreemaps able to route from Rawang to Ijok/ Kuala Selangor using the LATAR expressway while Ovimaps/Sygic or any commercial maps will route your to NKVE/ Sg Buloh or to Meru Sekinchan area be goping to Kuala Selangor..That will be very far way lor...Yeah you still reach your destination but relying on really outdated routing smile.gif

FYI, The LIKAS & SKVE highway already updated since last year but till Today not yet in Ovimaps & Googlemaps..Presumably not in also in any commercial maps Today smile.gif

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jul 7 2011, 03:51 PM)
I actually started off with Nokia Maps and Garmin. But I like the UI of Maps better and stick with that. Beside, after I reset the phone, the Garmin had become inoperable so never bother since. For me, as long as it can get me from A to B, it's fine with me.
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Just to highlight another achievement on latest malfreemaps issued 3 days ago- LATAR expressway - Completely covered even before opening smile.gif

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Just check the progress of MFM champion track contributor unker "Tuah" spending his few precious weekend since Early June to track & cover this highway & resulted in the most latest updated maps available in Malaysia notworthy.gif rclxms.gif

http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11024

Those ppl using this latest maps and coming from near Rawang will be the 1st be able to route using this latest maps smile.gif
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Ya, may be it's about time to have a relook at Garmin but unfortunately, it is no longer working in my phone.

How much is the original Garmin XT? Can it only be installed in 1 phone or multiple phone?
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post Jul 7 2011, 06:54 PM

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Garmin no longer support any platform except their own Asus-Garmin dy..Currently Only Symbian & Windows mobile phone able to install this however Nokia S60 & S^3 having 2 bugs still yet to fix 7 no longer any support to rectify the bugs. However still can be used.

You can't buy this Garmin MXT anymore & hv to look for unker google help liao..or..
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 3 2011, 03:21 PM)
Actually last time I used before phone + GPS... but not so responsive ( end up miss some turning and get lost). this is the reason I wish to get a GPS stand alone.

I`m currently using iphone 4 also but dunno which apps is good. any recommendation?
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There is Garmin... But must see whether got map or not for Malaysia.... And u cant manually update the map..... Cos its an iPhone

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