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 Nokia N900 Thread V2, Firmware FR 1.2 is FINALLY OUT

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post Jun 1 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Jun 1 2010, 10:54 PM)
try clareen


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there are plenty of sites. which one u using?  smile.gif
hope no one develope malware/trojan for n900... icon_rolleyes.gif
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i use google mate.
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jun 1 2010, 06:40 PM)
thanks for ur answer.. yes i did follow this thread and previous N900 thread to gain some knowledge but they're very long thread and i might miss many things there..

anyway is it a heavy internet dependent phone like android / iPhone?

and one more thing, can it sync contact from ms outlook or google contact?

thanks!
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It's an Internet Tablet with phone functionality.

Contacts? The Maemo OS or n900 have a unique features where they built in everything into Contacts and Conversations. So, forget about installing 3rd party IM app or programs, by default, there is Skype, Google Talk, Jabber plugins built in. PR1.2 introduces Facebook Chat plugins.
You can install other plugins from the repositories. You chat with your friends through Conversations, which is also how your SMS works. This concept is where Nokia emphasize on socializing, and where Microsoft is heading NOW with their Windows Phone 7 and ditching their previous OS, starting all over concentrating on socializing.

The N900 is the closest thing you can ever get to a PC like experience.
It also have "DESKTOP" unlike other smartphones with only "HomeScreen". The Desktop works just like your PC Desktop, there's a lot of flexibility and you can do a lot of customization, you can creatively design your own Desktop; It's unique and special because you can see many many different Desktop designs and customization, totally WAY better and more powerful than any smartphones HomeScreen.

The N900 maybe bulky but it packs a lot of hardwares, like FM Transmitter, Infrared, etc. It's rare to find a device that is this complete. And together with Maemo OS, it's superb. The only problem is the "support" from Nokia. Nokia seems to be emphasizing and concentrating on MeeGo, and N900 is not getting much attention. The community is far far better and way way faster in developing apps and providing features that Nokia miss out. E.g. AFTER SO LONG, only Nokia provided USSD feature, there's still no MMS provided, no additional IM plugins,.. though most of the missing feature has been provided by the community since long ago.
Nokia is lucky to have this great community which really contributes a lot, else N900 might have died easily.

And guess what, the Maemo OS is very open and many apps can be ported easily to this device. You can see "Chromium" (Linux version of Google Chrome) ported to N900, and there're so many more, like MyPaint, etc. If you're a Java Developer, guess what, they even got NetBeans for Linux running in N900!

Anyway, not sure what you're REALLY looking for; just make sure what you want before getting it, else it might not fullfill your requirements and ended up giving you a bad impression. It may not suit everybody's taste.
But if you're talking about smartphone, being close to PC like experience, this is the only device. Or if you're a technical person or Linux geek/pro/etc, this is a must have.


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post Jun 2 2010, 12:42 AM

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Finally got it to work, but it says no new software detected.
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QUOTE(jin90 @ Jun 2 2010, 12:42 AM)
Finally got it to work, but it says no new software detected.
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congrats finally it works
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post Jun 2 2010, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 2 2010, 12:56 AM)
congrats finally it works
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er...... Its Updating back to the same version sad.gif
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post Jun 2 2010, 01:16 AM

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why dont u update the manual way? The guide is on the FP
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post Jun 2 2010, 01:18 AM

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New OVI Store items up... Angry Birds level pack, Morpho Panorama Pro... biggrin.gif

But kenot buy with my any of my CC lorr... Sakit hati onli... cry.gif

Oh, and I have Transmission installed edi, though I rarely use it nowadays... Used to do the whole mobile torrenting thing (Symtorrent + 5800) back when I didn't have a stable net connection.

But it's a good backup. Just add torrent files and go. And if you're lucky (and in a good location) Sialcom also can reach 120kbps...

... for about 3 hours on 3G lol... biggrin.gif

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haha, i will resort to that way later, my update is running halfway. Scared that my device will get bricked if i cancel update now. BTW can i have the best price for 2 & 3 black rubberized snap on casing TQVM

BTW, all i need for manual update is the flasher and the latest firmware rite?

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jun 2 2010, 01:18 AM)
New OVI Store items up... Angry Birds level pack, Morpho Panorama Pro... biggrin.gif

But kenot buy with my any of my CC lorr... Sakit hati onli... cry.gif

Oh, and I have Transmission installed edi, though I rarely use it nowadays... Used to do the whole mobile torrenting thing (Symtorrent + 5800) back when I didn't have a stable net connection.

But it's a good backup. Just add torrent files and go. And if you're lucky (and in a good location) Sialcom also can reach 120kbps...

... for about 3 hours on 3G lol... biggrin.gif
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i checked dont have the things u listed angry birds level pack and morpho panorama pro?


Added on June 2, 2010, 1:25 am
QUOTE(jin90 @ Jun 2 2010, 01:18 AM)
haha, i will resort to that way later, my update is running halfway. Scared that my device will get bricked if i cancel update now. BTW can i have the best price for 2 & 3 black rubberized snap on casing TQVM

BTW, all i need for manual update is the flasher and the latest firmware rite?
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price already the best as stated. Even u wanna buy 3 from the seller in garage sales also u cant get the price. How cheap can it go? rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 2 2010, 01:23 AM)
i checked dont have the things u listed angry birds level pack and morpho panorama pro?
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It's kinda sorta hidden and messed up. Select Games... Then down to the Recommended part (near the GO button), select Best Sellers and then GO... It should be there on top... Angry Bird Level pack lar...

For the Morpho thing, search apps.

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post Jun 2 2010, 01:29 AM

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icic thanks anyways, just inquiring for a friend smile.gif
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QUOTE(jin90 @ Jun 2 2010, 01:29 AM)
icic thanks anyways, just inquiring for a friend smile.gif
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the price is not only cheap ridiculously cheap. After bulk u wont be able to get the price listed anymore.
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God now my phone doesnt reboot after flashing -.-, i had to on it myself @@

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QUOTE(fai79ruz @ Jun 1 2010, 09:58 AM)
Hi, may i know ur problem facing booting "Sometimes it's ok sometimes going haywire." did u mean sometime when rebooting that happen or every time u rebooting it happen like 2x or 3x when it go left right left. mine it not all the left right facing like "haywire" just within like 10x it go left right left maybe 2x or 3x it hapen but sometime almost all ...

another is do u think this is just a bug or it will effect device performance? what do u advice?
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What i meant was out of 5 reboots, 3 was having the "haywire" effect. Each time the problem arose, it will continue until finish rebooting.
From my observation, it's just the scrolling bar bug issue. I googled around and it seems that this bug do happen to unlucky users using tthe FOTA update. Very odd indeed. I too was curious whether it had any performance effect. I even had my N900 overclocked to 900Mhz. Opened up to 15 apps simultaneously but no drop in performance was noted. I also played with Sygic GPS and DL some mp3 using wifi, still no problem risen.

As for me, an annoyance will be always be an annoyance. So i decided to manually flash my N900 firmware + emmc. For the sake of science, after finished flashing, did continuous x20 reboots. The scrolling bar "haywire" was never seen again.

My advice...? As i stated above, i don't like to see something "not right" with my beloved phone, so reflash was the only way out. You can leave it as it is as i experience nothing bad about it. smile.gif


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QUOTE(irenic @ Jun 1 2010, 06:40 PM)
thanks for ur answer.. yes i did follow this thread and previous N900 thread to gain some knowledge but they're very long thread and i might miss many things there..

anyway is it a heavy internet dependent phone like android / iPhone?

and one more thing, can it sync contact from ms outlook or google contact?

thanks!
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This N900's internet dependent depends on your widget and surfing. it could be as heavy internet dependent when u rely on RSS and emails.. or it could be like me, only use whenever required. unlike android, natively, you cant switch off the internet connection without using apps to switch it off ; same like iphone (i used G1 back then, and i am not sure if 2.1 could switch off the internet connection). So, is it heavy internet dependent, its your choice.

it can sync with ms outlook via Nokia PC suite. however, i am not sure if it can sync with google as i havent come across with any software to sync with google contact.

depends on your liking, whether you wish to buy a phone to use, or u want to a internet tablet to use..
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I seen "Internal error. Application xxx closed" sometimes, applications like contacts, conversation. After searching maemo forum, this seems to be an issue to new 1.2 firmware.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=691093#post691093

This sucks
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Anyone using Nokia Map on N900 after PR1.2 upgrade? I used nokia map loader to download the map over to N900, but it seem like not working always prompt me for internet connection.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 1 2010, 08:02 PM)
Usually its very hard to satisfy ppl.

If u are using nexus one u should stick with it except u want something different or special. At specification Nexus One outbeat NOkia N900 but in uniqueness nokia N900 is really different. If u want something different consider nokia n900

i just make a short summary even this question been repeated many times

Nokia N900 doesnt require BIS/BES to work like blackberry. U can use WIFI,3G or even infra. The reason why ppl choose nokia n900 is not because of the weight but what its capable of.

1) Running totally on linux when android is only linux backbone
2) U have a great community like us and many out there that always have new hack or tweaks to share
3) N8 do not run on linux but only symbian so the limitation is there when N900 totally no limitation u can just do anything with your phone like run android,windows 95, run PSX, run warcraft game, run this run that they call it unlimited possibility but u need to have the knowledge to accompolish it.

4) Nokia N900 is not a smartphone its like the thread title stated its a tablet with phone capabilities. If u google around N770, N800, N810 u know how amazing this tablet comes especially for internet. Now is Phone + tablet for nokia n900
5) I am currently replying this on my nokia N900 i love this phone when it comes to internet i can do movie bookings, online banking, using VNC , emailing with HTML, making my phone as a remote control
6) Android phones dont even have front camera. Nokia N900 have but we do not know why 3G calls is not available yet. Maybe in next firmware
7) Nokia N900 support MMS via 3rdparty the tutorial is on frontpage (FP)
8) The GPS module on nokia N900 is amazing i get a lock in 15sec to 1min.
9) I have also made a comparison on the frontpage please check it out
10) Read the guide we have put so much effort to collect and compile on the frontpage (FP) THANK YOU
11) Lastly if u already have nexus one its actually sufficient already furthermore its using snapdragon processor when Nokia N900 only Cortex processor.
12) You have alot nice forumers to assist you
13) We started this thread near end of MARCH 2010 today after 3 months we are hitting V3 anytime. Do u see any other thread grow so fast. There must be a reason why it grows so fast. Be unique be a maemo
Check out the android http://forum.lowyat.net/Android there must be a problem why nokia N900 thread grow so fast even so many complains about it. Desire thread started on Dec 7 2009, 11:48 AM

14) U have chance to try Meego the latest OS from Nokia and Intel its not official but we know there sure a way around it when its officially launch for market
15) Nokia N900 have a live desktop feel so u can customize how u like it to be.
16) In lyn thread if u have a problem on your phone someone definately will assist u. Try going thru the threads and u see how fast ppl response to u. Sharing is caring
Hope my short summary helps u in making your decision on whether to get your nokia N900
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 1 2010, 11:51 PM)
It's an Internet Tablet with phone functionality.

Contacts? The Maemo OS or n900 have a unique features where they built in everything into Contacts and Conversations. So, forget about installing 3rd party IM app or programs, by default, there is Skype, Google Talk, Jabber plugins built in. PR1.2 introduces Facebook Chat plugins.
You can install other plugins from the repositories. You chat with your friends through Conversations, which is also how your SMS works. This concept is where Nokia emphasize on socializing, and where Microsoft is heading NOW with their Windows Phone 7 and ditching their previous OS, starting all over concentrating on socializing.

The N900 is the closest thing you can ever get to a PC like experience.
It also have "DESKTOP" unlike other smartphones with only "HomeScreen". The Desktop works just like your PC Desktop, there's a lot of flexibility and you can do a lot of customization, you can creatively design your own Desktop; It's unique and special because you can see many many different Desktop designs and customization, totally WAY better and more powerful than any smartphones HomeScreen.

The N900 maybe bulky but it packs a lot of hardwares, like FM Transmitter, Infrared, etc. It's rare to find a device that is this complete. And together with Maemo OS, it's superb. The only problem is the "support" from Nokia. Nokia seems to be emphasizing and concentrating on MeeGo, and N900 is not getting much attention. The community is far far better and way way faster in developing apps and providing features that Nokia miss out. E.g. AFTER SO LONG, only Nokia provided USSD feature, there's still no MMS provided, no additional IM plugins,.. though most of the missing feature has been provided by the community since long ago.
Nokia is lucky to have this great community which really contributes a lot, else N900 might have died easily.

And guess what, the Maemo OS is very open and many apps can be ported easily to this device. You can see "Chromium" (Linux version of Google Chrome) ported to N900, and there're so many more, like MyPaint, etc. If you're a Java Developer, guess what, they even got NetBeans for Linux running in N900!

Anyway, not sure what you're REALLY looking for; just make sure what you want before getting it, else it might not fullfill your requirements and ended up giving you a bad impression. It may not suit everybody's taste.
But if you're talking about smartphone, being close to PC like experience, this is the only device. Or if you're a technical person or Linux geek/pro/etc, this is a must have.
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thanks for great explaination guys! really appreciate it..

however fygi, i'm not n i wont letting go the nexus one.. by far it's the best & convenient device i ever have, after desire & bold2. iPhone is great, but not convenient with it's heavy dependence with iTunes.

and no offence, but Desire just available few weeks ago via ap company.. i know since i'm among the first to own it in malaysia.. and it's very new in our market. so cant compare the thread they have with N900 here...

but guess what, i just got the N900 last night. and where it stands out now? i dunno, but yes i'm excited to explore lots of things coz it's been a long time since android, i've a device that makes me like noob again. and i'm excited! haha.

now i hope to learn many things from u guys to ensure i've a great experience with this device..and thanks in advance ! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hbau @ Jun 2 2010, 10:31 AM)
Anyone using Nokia Map on N900 after PR1.2 upgrade? I used nokia map loader to download the map over to N900, but it seem like not working always prompt me for internet connection.
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just wondering is there any application for running ISO's files ie. tutorial cds etc etc

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