lol that's actually cheaper than sunway and taylors

wow @ this thread.

BTW ANYONE KNOW WHERE TO TAKE PHOTOS DUTCH PASSPORT FORMAT?

Aiyah, they're not that strict one la if you're an international student. I'm guessing you only need this for your visa/student application right? Not that strict. When you need a photo for your residence permit, just take when you arrive lah.

I think it is great that you guys/gals go to Holland for studies!

I can understand why The Netherlands would be very attractive to study in. Also, if you do have saved up some ringgits, you can actually benefit greatly from the weak euro (and strong ringgit). Also, The Netherlands is one of the cheapest countries in the world (you wouldn't think so right ).....especially (quality) food is very cheap, but same goes for A brands electronics, cars and such.

Unfortunately eating out is very expensive, so there is quite the 'at home' dinner culture in NL. Nothing's more fun than to just eat at home with friends!

One of the reasons why Dutch education is perhaps not that popular yet for foreign students is that up to recent years education was usually done in the Dutch language. Also Dutch education was not really set up for foreign students. When they applied the universal BA/MSC system things quickly changed, and now more than ever is Holland becoming a very popular country to study in.

Btw...I am one of those silly Dutchies that actually left NL to live in Msia

DikkieD: Glad to hear you're enjoying your time in Malaysia.

It is true that until recently, there were no degrees in English. Even now, bachelor degrees in English are limited but that is slowly changing.

I do not have any regrets studying here and although the European economy is pretty lousy at the moment, I am pretty sure I can get a job (without being able to speak Dutch).

This post has been edited by meiiseenei: Dec 17 2012, 09:13 PM

Meiiseenei,

I am looking for study in master in Architecture there, i hold a Bachelor Degree from Australia, can u advise ?

My (Malaysian) friend who studied architecture at an Australian university says TU Delft's masters architecture programme is top 10 worldwide. Perhaps you can try there?

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Added on December 18, 2012, 4:28 pmFriend gave me the link: http://www.graduatearchitecture.com/ARCHSC...schools_en.html

TU Delft is listed at number 6 worldwide here.

This post has been edited by meiiseenei: Dec 18 2012, 04:28 PM

Hi TS,

Thanks for sharing. My wife is planning to further her study (Master) in NL on part-time basis. From my understanding, the uni will apply the study visa for her upon arrival. Since M'sian do need visa to enter the country, I assume she can travel there immediately after getting uni offer. Can you confirm?

Anyway, I'm getting job offer in Amsterdam area and work visa will be issued to me. Assuming my family will be getting the same visa under me, do you think she still needs study visa?

The visa thing is confusing at the moment. Hopefully you can share your experiences..

No, she must apply for the visa before she comes, not just masuk on a tourist visa etc. However, since you're getting sponsored (I assume KM/ Skilled Migrant) visa, then she can enter with you (but make sure your company applies for her also lah). If you have the KM visa, she can study for much cheaper (EU fees) than as a non-EU student:)

So TS, are you working already in the Netherlands??

Do you speak any Dutch?

How did you get a dutch BF??

Economy is lousy here at the moment, but I haven't really started looking for a job yet. I plan to start in June/July but I have a feeling it will take some time.

Yes, I speak Dutch but not good enough to function flawlessly in a Dutch-only company. I can't give an awesome presentation in Dutch for eg. and I make lots of grammatical mistakes. Luckily, there are many large companies here where English is the official language at work (eg. Shell, ING, Unilever, Philips etc. are all Dutch companies where Dutch isn't required).

This is interesting and thanks for sharing with us TS. I wish I could go study abroad but due to financial constraint, I think I'll only have the chance to study locally for now. Just got my SPM result btw

do you take Dutch classes? For how long, how frequent etc? And what's your level now??

And if you marry your BF, are you automatically a dutch citizen?

No, you are not automatically a Dutch citizen then. You don't have to be married and can still be a Dutch citizen. They only require you to live in NL on a legal and permanent (that means work, family etc.) basis for at least 5 years at the time of application and pass the integration exam (not hard). Give you example la.. lets say Ali came to NL in 2007 on a student visa. He graduated in 2011 with a bachelor degree and got a job (means on work visa, not on student visa anymore). In 2012, he can apply for his Dutch citizenship.

However, by applying for Dutch (or whatever) passport, Malaysians will no longer be Malaysians as Malaysia does not allow dual nationality.

I had Dutch lessons once or twice a week (1 hour per class) the first 2 years of college. My level is B1 (I think I can pass B2 though). B2 is when you can attend Dutch university but personally, I think one needs a higher level than that to really be able to write academic papers and such.

Why? Thinking of migrating?

This post has been edited by meiiseenei: Apr 8 2013, 12:52 AM

I see. Interesting!!

Are you applying for jobs after your bachelor's degree, or are you planning to do a master's??
Do most ppl apply for jobs with a bachelor's degree, or a master's is required??

Depends on the job/field. Some big companies only hire people with masters for certain jobs (i.e. strangely, marketing is one of them) unless you have loads of experience lah.

I am not planning to do a master's. No money lah so I'll just survive with my bachelor lah.

Ok ... I was invited to do an online test for a trading company (in the Netherlands of course), but I was too busy and didn't do it.

Now I kinda regret. Maybe I could get an invitation for assessment centre.

So it takes 5 years to be a Dutch citizen.. Have to do some planning liao ..

This post has been edited by TSOM: Apr 8 2013, 01:44 AM

Ah too bad. It's not bad working here (at least compared to Malaysia here). Good work-life balance.

I did read on cheaper fees for EU but my assumption for EU citizens. So it's applicable to KM visa as well even from non-EU country? Yes, the KM visa will be applicable for my family as well. But my wife needs to apply first for uni placement before we go. So I guess we can proceed with application first, get the letter offer, get the KM visa and fly .