Study in The Netherlands/ Holland
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 Apr 20 2013, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Apr 13 2013, 01:22 AM) if only they allow dual nationality ... Even though NL allows dual citizenship, you can't have that too as Malaysia don't allow dual citizenship.    This is what I understand. So no matter which country you get your citizenship, you need to choose one between the two, unless you hide if from Malaysia, as I know some Malaysian do that. |
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May 22 2013, 05:08 PM
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Even The Netherlands is limiting the possible reasons one can have dual nationality but in my case, I can still get la;) It is true that Malaysia does not allow it. Initially, I said NEVER! I will never give up my Malaysian nationality but precisely because one cannot have 2 passports, I might have no choice but to apply for a Dutch passport. The reason is, it's just so much easier to travel (esp business trips), I can live anywhere in the EU and so that I can have a say (vote). It makes sense since I do live here now but it's not something I am ready to do just yet as I do not speak Dutch fluently (therefore personally feel like I can consider myself 'Dutch') and because I can never get the Malaysian passport back. I mean, say la..what if I get divorced in the future and want to go back to Malaysia to take care of my parents?
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Jun 3 2013, 07:08 AM
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Meiiseenei= Good to know that you are settling down in Netherlands. I love Netherlands. People are much more friendly and straight forward in Netherlands and I like it so much. I have been there for some student exchange programs for 2weeks.
(OFF TOPIC) Anyone interested in studying in Belgium? I am currently pursuing my bachelor deg in Belgium. The fees are probably much more cheaper than in Netherlands (around RM2K for 1 year) but with the only requirement - you will need to have B2/C1 Dutch language proficiency certificate and be prepare to learn French as well=)) If you are planning to do your master, then you can do it in English language. and tuition fees are around RM2K as well for a year=) |
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Jul 11 2013, 11:18 PM
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I wonder if nursing there is good too? Plan to settle down there once I am done with my degree in Singapore. My boyfriend is there too, en ik spreek een beetje nederland.
Talking about groceries, their groceries are the best  friggin cheap and i love their stroopwaffels! This post has been edited by kixxeslips: Jul 12 2013, 01:23 AM |
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Jul 12 2013, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE(kixxeslips @ Jul 11 2013, 11:18 PM) I wonder if nursing there is good too? Plan to settle down there once I am done with my degree in Singapore. My boyfriend is there too, en ik spreek een beetje nederland. Nursing is good but you'll have to study in Dutch but perhaps that's good since you plan on living there and nursing jobs require good Dutch (as you'll be dealing with local patients). It'll probably take you at least a year (intensive Dutch lessons) to speak Dutch well enough to obtain a nursing job.Talking about groceries, their groceries are the best friggin cheap and i love their stroopwaffels! |
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Aug 30 2013, 12:21 AM
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Hi, currently an A-level student studying in a university in KL. I have been having thoughts on studying in EU (and also thoughts on doing my final year in software engineering or something else from IT, haven't actually decided on a major, in Australia)
but now I am having thoughts.. I wonder if the EU would be a nicer place to be at than Australia? I've never had the privilege to visit any of the EU nations but I've always been fascinated with the idea of studying in a European country (a number of my friends from a forum I was active in years ago whom I still keep in touch with are Swedes, actually) To be honest I am no longer surprised by how fluent many of my European friends are when it comes to the English language, in fact I can't recall any of them who have been having difficulties in conversing in English. .... Anyway, I'm posting here only because I'm having all these thoughts, would appreciate it if i could get some feedback on this. 1. Fees are... well considerably cheaper than anywhere else, I've always been aware that education is cheaper in EU but I've always had the impression that this only applies to EU nationals? 2. I know it was mentioned in the first post, but will my A-levels really be useless should I wish to enter degree straight? 3. Am I really royally screwed if I were to not get a job in Nederlands within a year of graduation? 4. How are the car prices there? I remember this LYN member who lives in Germany who was a 28 year old fresh graduate and bought himself a BM 'cuz YOLO. 5. Which university do you think you'd recommend me to check out on for Software Engineering? 6. I know Scandinavians are open as hell, but what about Dutch people? Only know that Amsterdam is the weed capital of the world.. 7. Is Dutch hard to learn? 8. Will my proficiency in Malay, Mandarin, Cantonese help me in at least a little bit there? Job wise. 9. I believe the discrimination against Asians are far less than Australians against Asians? |
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Sep 15 2013, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Apr 23 2010, 04:59 PM) Hi, Hi got very useful overview about studying in hollang. I am planning to send my son to start foundation course at university of amsterdam.I'm a Malaysian student in The Netherlands and am enjoying it! Are there others around as well? Not many people are aware that many 'big' international companies such as Shell, Unilever, Philips, ING etc. are actually Dutch. Education here is definitely hands-on and you not only learn theory, you also learn how to apply it. Holland is relatively new to Malaysians but it's really starting to get popular. Why not differentiate yourself from Australian/American/ UK graduates? Benefits: i) very practical, you learn a lot of soft skills ii) get experience with companies iii) great student body, very international yet close at my school iv) open people, English is widely spoken v) central location, cheap flights to cities like London (bought once for 20 euro,return! sometimes can get for 5 euro...), Prague, Rome etc. vi) study grants provided by some schools vii) can start after SPM for certain courses (4-year courses. No use taking certain diplomas/SAM/Pre-U etc as you may not get exemptions) viii) safe, very low crime rate and particularly attractive for some Malaysians: as a graduate from a Dutch uni, you are allowed to stay an additional 1 year to look for a job after graduation. Cons: i) no 2+1, 3+1, 2+2 or whatever available yet. ii) Limited availability of English programmes iii) Not many Malaysians here (this could be a pro as well!) If you're already studying in NL or are interested in studying in NL, do leave a message here/PM me:) Information on scholarships and courses can be found here: Nuffic |
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Oct 19 2013, 07:47 PM
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Hi,
My replies are in red: QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 30 2013, 12:21 AM) Hi, currently an A-level student studying in a university in KL. I have been having thoughts on studying in EU (and also thoughts on doing my final year in software engineering or something else from IT, haven't actually decided on a major, in Australia) but now I am having thoughts.. I wonder if the EU would be a nicer place to be at than Australia? I've never had the privilege to visit any of the EU nations but I've always been fascinated with the idea of studying in a European country (a number of my friends from a forum I was active in years ago whom I still keep in touch with are Swedes, actually) To be honest I am no longer surprised by how fluent many of my European friends are when it comes to the English language, in fact I can't recall any of them who have been having difficulties in conversing in English. .... Anyway, I'm posting here only because I'm having all these thoughts, would appreciate it if i could get some feedback on this. 1. Fees are... well considerably cheaper than anywhere else, I've always been aware that education is cheaper in EU but I've always had the impression that this only applies to EU nationals? In The Netherlands, there are 2 sets of fees: a fixed one for EU nationals (1835 euro per year) and one for non-EU nationals (this depends on which course you take, it starts at around 4500 euro to much more if you pick more expensive courses like medicine). While the tuition fees for non-EU nationals are higher, I have been told that tuition fees in Australia for eg. are steeper so perhaps this is why some people say that studying in Europe (except perhaps UK?) is still cheaper than Australia. 2. I know it was mentioned in the first post, but will my A-levels really be useless should I wish to enter degree straight? No, it will not be useless. You will need A-Levels to enter a research university and even universities of applied sciences also require A-Levels from international students now. 3. Am I really royally screwed if I were to not get a job in Nederlands within a year of graduation? Depends on you. You are screwed in the sense that you will have to leave the country (which only sucks if you want to stay). I don't think you are screwed in regards to getting some kind of job in Malaysia. That will partially depend on yourself (for eg. how well written is your cover letter? etc.). Please take note that I have never tried to get a job in Malaysia but I was back recently, and it doesn't seem very hard since many people are still not capable of speaking good English nor are most young people very assertive so I would think that it would be quite easy to make a first good impression. I have applied for internships in Malaysia (while I was enrolled in Dutch uni) and got offers from all the companies I applied at (but internships don't really count, I guess). 4. How are the car prices there? I remember this LYN member who lives in Germany who was a 28 year old fresh graduate and bought himself a BM 'cuz YOLO. Expensive in NL. About same price as Malaysia I guess but petrol here is more expensive. Second hand cars are cheaper though. Don't want to sound mean but as a fresh grad, you probably can't buy a new 3-serie BMW- if you are lucky and have a good fresh grad position (for eg. strategy consultant), you might get a new 1-serie BMW as a lease car. That said, most fresh grads get nothing or if they're lucky, they get a simple lease car (VW Polo/Golf or similiar). 5. Which university do you think you'd recommend me to check out on for Software Engineering? I am not very familiar with your programme but I'd probably go for TU Eindhoven (research university). They seem to be quite well-known in NL for computer related courses. 6. I know Scandinavians are open as hell, but what about Dutch people? Only know that Amsterdam is the weed capital of the world.. Dutch people are quite open in the sense that you can always state your mind (whether they agree with your points or not. They will never say " don't disturb the peace" but they are always up for discussion). However, they are closed in the sense that it's harder to make real friends- for eg. just because you're classmates and have had a conversation does not necessarily mean you're "FRIENDS" (although of course it can happen and DOES happen quite often). However, once you're friends, you're friends. In a way, Dutch people are indifferent- they believe that what you do is what you do (and that you know what you're doing since it's your choice and you're an adult) and it is not their business to teach/force/help/whatever you to do anything unless asked). 7. Is Dutch hard to learn? Yes and no. It's easy in the sense that a lot of words are similiar to English (Grammar however is not!). What makes Dutch hard to learn is there is no need to (so you don't get much practice nor motivation to learn the language). Furthermore, learning Dutch properly can be an expensive affair. Luckily though, it is quite possible to get a job without knowing Dutch at all. The company where I work now does not use Dutch AT ALL (majority of employees are American/British). 8. Will my proficiency in Malay, Mandarin, Cantonese help me in at least a little bit there? Job wise. Malay no. Mandarin and Cantonese maybe. I have seen vacancies where these languages are a requirement/ is preferred. However, in your line of work (Software Engineering), maybe all you need is English and/or Dutch. 9. I believe the discrimination against Asians are far less than Australians against Asians? I don't know as I have only been to Australia once for a short holiday. However, I do think that the Dutch focus their 'hatred' more on Moroccans, Polish (to a lesser extend) and fundamental Muslims than Asians at the moment. Racism/discrimination in NL is less than in Malaysia, for eg. |
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Oct 19 2013, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(Dr hasnan @ Sep 15 2013, 02:01 PM) Hi got very useful overview about studying in hollang. I am planning to send my son to start foundation course at university of amsterdam. University of Amsterdam is a wonderful university. I'm sure he'll enjoy it+ get a good education:) |
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Oct 19 2013, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(sochaikeong @ Jun 3 2013, 07:08 AM) Meiiseenei= Good to know that you are settling down in Netherlands. I love Netherlands. People are much more friendly and straight forward in Netherlands and I like it so much. I have been there for some student exchange programs for 2weeks. Hello, would u pls advise to further study at Belgium for Master of Architecture, currently holding a Bachelor in Architecture studies from Australia, tq(OFF TOPIC) Anyone interested in studying in Belgium? I am currently pursuing my bachelor deg in Belgium. The fees are probably much more cheaper than in Netherlands (around RM2K for 1 year) but with the only requirement - you will need to have B2/C1 Dutch language proficiency certificate and be prepare to learn French as well=)) If you are planning to do your master, then you can do it in English language. and tuition fees are around RM2K as well for a year=) |
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Oct 26 2013, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(indahjaya @ Oct 19 2013, 08:26 PM) Hello, would u pls advise to further study at Belgium for Master of Architecture, currently holding a Bachelor in Architecture studies from Australia, tq Hey IndahJaya=)Yeah of course. But I am not doing degree in architecture.. And am not sure how it works there. Here is : the Overview of the master programme in architecture =)) http://onderwijsaanbod.kuleuven.be/2013/op...6684.htm#bl=all and the architecture department's website http://www.asro.kuleuven.be/ And what would like to know specifically?  |
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Feb 25 2015, 08:58 AM
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Hello there everyone. I'm looking for opportunities in software engineering field (masters) ...would like to know on the cost and any good uni for this? also, roughly how much do i expect to have to pay per year (all-in)?
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Feb 25 2015, 12:54 PM
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Hi guys, just would like to know, if its possible to apply for a masters program if one graduated from programs like ACCA/ICAEW, hence bypassing bachelor degree(without any degree)?
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Apr 22 2015, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(sochaikeong @ Jun 3 2013, 07:08 AM) (OFF TOPIC) Anyone interested in studying in Belgium? I am currently pursuing my bachelor deg in Belgium. The fees are probably much more cheaper than in Netherlands (around RM2K for 1 year) but with the only requirement - you will need to have B2/C1 Dutch language proficiency certificate and be prepare to learn French as well=)) so are you fluent in Dutch and French now?If you are planning to do your master, then you can do it in English language. and tuition fees are around RM2K as well for a year=) QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Oct 19 2013, 07:47 PM) 7. Is Dutch hard to learn? Yes and no. It's easy in the sense that a lot of words are similiar to English (Grammar however is not!). What makes Dutch hard to learn is there is no need to (so you don't get much practice nor motivation to learn the language). Furthermore, learning Dutch properly can be an expensive affair. Luckily though, it is quite possible to get a job without knowing Dutch at all. The company where I work now does not use Dutch AT ALL (majority of employees are American/British). My advise would be, learn it if you decide to stay in the country. |
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Apr 30 2015, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Apr 22 2015, 09:24 PM) so are you fluent in Dutch and French now? Well, you have to I guess.. I have graduated and now back to Malaysia for good.=)Anyone interested to learn Dutch or basic French, PM me=) |
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Apr 30 2015, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(sochaikeong @ Apr 30 2015, 08:34 AM) Well, you have to I guess.. I have graduated and now back to Malaysia for good.=) wow!! Time flies ...... Anyone interested to learn Dutch or basic French, PM me=) working at big MNC I guess? why did you choose Belgium instead of other countries?  and where/how did you prepare yourself for Dutch until B2/C1? |
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May 28 2015, 04:48 PM
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Anyone here studied at TU DELFT before?
I am planning to take on a Masters course in Mech.Engineering in 2017. Hope to start my planning early |
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Jun 8 2015, 01:12 AM
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I'm planning to study in the Netherlands but I do not know where to start ?
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Jan 28 2016, 06:42 PM
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Hi,
I just complete my SPM few months ago and I'm waiting for my result. I wish I can study in Netherlands for my degree so I have to study A-level right? Any suggest University for study Psychology? I had found a few of University like University of Groningen,Erasmus University Rotterdam and more that provide Bachelor of Psychology that teaching by English.So which is the best? Thank you very much. |
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Jan 29 2016, 12:52 AM
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any reason why you want to study in the Netherlands instead of other countries?
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