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TSOM
post Apr 7 2013, 11:39 PM

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So TS, are you working already in the Netherlands??

Do you speak any Dutch?

How did you get a dutch BF??
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post Apr 8 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Apr 8 2013, 12:09 AM)
Economy is lousy here at the moment, but I haven't really started looking for a job yet. I plan to start in June/July but I have a feeling it will take some time.

Yes, I speak Dutch but not good enough to function flawlessly in a Dutch-only company. I can't give an awesome presentation in Dutch for eg. and I make lots of grammatical mistakes. Luckily, there are many large companies here where English is the official language at work (eg. Shell, ING, Unilever, Philips etc. are all Dutch companies where Dutch isn't required).
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do you take Dutch classes? For how long, how frequent etc? And what's your level now??

And if you marry your BF, are you automatically a dutch citizen?
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Apr 8 2013, 12:51 AM)
No, you are not automatically a Dutch citizen then. You don't have to be married and can still be a Dutch citizen. They only require you to live in NL on a legal and permanent (that means work, family etc.) basis for at least 5 years at the time of application and pass the integration exam (not hard). Give you example la.. lets say Ali came to NL in 2007 on a student visa. He graduated in 2011 with a bachelor degree and got a job (means on work visa, not on student visa anymore). In 2012, he can apply for his Dutch citizenship.

However, by applying for Dutch (or whatever) passport, Malaysians will no longer be Malaysians as Malaysia does not allow dual nationality.

I had Dutch lessons once or twice a week (1 hour per class) the first 2 years of college. My level is B1 (I think I can pass B2 though). B2 is when you can attend Dutch university but personally, I think one needs a higher level than that to really be able to write academic papers and such.

Why? Thinking of migrating?
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I see. Interesting!!

Are you applying for jobs after your bachelor's degree, or are you planning to do a master's??
Do most ppl apply for jobs with a bachelor's degree, or a master's is required??
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Apr 8 2013, 01:23 AM)
Depends on the job/field. Some big companies only hire people with masters for certain jobs (i.e. strangely, marketing is one of them) unless you have loads of experience lah.

I am not planning to do a master's. No money lah so I'll just survive with my bachelor lah.
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Ok ... I was invited to do an online test for a trading company (in the Netherlands of course), but I was too busy and didn't do it. sad.gif

Now I kinda regret. Maybe I could get an invitation for assessment centre.

So it takes 5 years to be a Dutch citizen.. hmm.gif Have to do some planning liao ..

This post has been edited by TSOM: Apr 8 2013, 01:44 AM
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post Apr 10 2013, 10:16 PM

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Everyone loves the Netherlands.........!!!!!!!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 11 2013, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Apr 11 2013, 09:50 PM)
After studying, you have 1 year to look for a job (but of course need to have enough money to support yourself during this time).

There's a minimum income you'd have to earn to get your work visa, can't remember what but it's a realistic one lah.
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how long are you going to stay in the Netherlands?? Are you and your bf settling permanently there??

You two don't want to come back to Malaysia??? sad.gif sad.gif

so lucky lah you .... cry.gif cry.gif
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post Apr 12 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Apr 11 2013, 10:03 PM)
Nah am not going back. Not that I don't like Malaysia, it's just I have responsibilities and obligations here so I will live here so yep, settling here permanently.
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such as jaga anak and husband?? tongue.gif tongue.gif brows.gif

Do you live in Amsterdam btw, or other cities?
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post Apr 12 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ameer88 @ Apr 12 2013, 10:16 AM)
Been there, done that! well for only one reason haha
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what reason??
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post Apr 13 2013, 01:22 AM

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if only they allow dual nationality ... sad.gif
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post Apr 22 2015, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(sochaikeong @ Jun 3 2013, 07:08 AM)
(OFF TOPIC) Anyone interested in studying in Belgium? I am currently pursuing my bachelor deg in Belgium. The fees are probably much more cheaper than in Netherlands (around RM2K for 1 year) but with the only requirement - you will need to have B2/C1 Dutch language proficiency certificate and be prepare to learn French as well=))
If you are planning to do your master, then you can do it in English language. and tuition fees are around RM2K as well for a year=)
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so are you fluent in Dutch and French now?

QUOTE(meiiseenei @ Oct 19 2013, 07:47 PM)

7. Is Dutch hard to learn?
Yes and no. It's easy in the sense that a lot of words are similiar to English (Grammar however is not!). What makes Dutch hard to learn is there is no need to (so you don't get much practice nor motivation to learn the language). Furthermore, learning Dutch properly can be an expensive affair. Luckily though, it is quite possible to get a job without knowing Dutch at all. The company where I work now does not use Dutch AT ALL (majority of employees are American/British).
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but if you don't learn the language, you are just delaying the inevitable. Next time when you have kids, they are going to attend Dutch schools and speak Dutch with their friends. Do you want to feel left out everytime they speak Dutch?

My advise would be, learn it if you decide to stay in the country.
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post Apr 30 2015, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(sochaikeong @ Apr 30 2015, 08:34 AM)
Well, you have to I guess.. I have graduated and now back to Malaysia for good.=)

Anyone interested to learn Dutch or basic French, PM me=)
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wow!! Time flies ...... sad.gif

working at big MNC I guess?

why did you choose Belgium instead of other countries? hmm.gif
and where/how did you prepare yourself for Dutch until B2/C1?
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:52 AM

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any reason why you want to study in the Netherlands instead of other countries?

 

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